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Four more Premier League matches follow hot on the heels of an absorbing Manchester derby.

Brighton and Hove Albion v Liverpool is the headline act, with three bottom-half scraps on the undercard:

Both sides at the Amex are missing notable names today, with Leandro Trossard out of first-team contention for disciplinary reasons and Darwin Nunez joining Liverpool’s ever-growing injury list.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in for Darwin is the Reds’ only alteration from the draw with Wolves in the FA Cup third round. Cody Gakpo makes his first Premier League appearance since his move to Merseyside earlier this month.

As for Brighton, Alexis Mac Allister is handed his first start since winning the World Cup with Argentina. Budget attacking assets Kaoru Mitoma and Evan Ferguson again get the nod, while Pascal Gross is moved to right-back as Joel Veltman is benched.

Nottingham Forest make one change to the side that beat Wolves on penalties to reach the EFL Cup semi-finals, with Scott McKenna coming in for the injured Willy Boly. Taiwo Awoniyi is still sidelined.

Leicester make two changes to the XI beaten by Newcastle in the EFL Cup on Tuesday, as Jamie Vardy and Nampalys Mendy replace the benched Patson Daka and the injured Ayoze Perez.

At Molineux, Hugo Bueno is back in the starting XI after a midweek breather. Nathan Collins, Daniel Podence, Ruben Neves and Matheus Cunha also return after being benched in that weakened EFL Cup line-up.

West Ham make three changes to the side that beat Brentford in the FA Cup last weekend with Aaron Cresswell, Vladimir Coufal and Pablo Fornals replacing Craig Dawson, Ben Johnson and Emerson Palmieri.

Alex Iwobi makes a miraculous recovery to start for Everton, who again ditch the wingers to go 3-5-2/5-3-2 with Demarai Gray alongside Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

A 2-0 cup win over Manchester City hasn’t stopped Southampton boss Nathan Jones from making alterations up top, as Che Adams, Samuel Edozie and Mohamed Elyounoussi come in for Sekou Mara, Adam Armstrong and Moussa Djenepo.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Brighton and Hove Albion XI: Sanchez, Gross, Dunk, Colwill, Estupinan, Caicedo, Mac Allister, March, Lallana, Mitoma, Ferguson

Subs: Steele, Lamptey, Webster, Welbeck, Sarmiento, Undav, Gilmour, Van Hecke, Veltman

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Konate, Robertson, Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Salah, Gakpo, Oxlade-Chamberlain

Subs: Kelleher, Gomez, Milner, Keita, Jones, Elliott, Tsimikas, Carvalho, Doak


Everton XI: Pickford, Coleman, Godfrey, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Iwobi, Onana, Gueye, Gray, Calvert-Lewin.

Subs: Holgate, McNeil, Gordon, Mina, Begovic, Doucoure, Maupay, Davies, Simms.

Southampton XI: Bazunu, Caleta-Car, Lyanco, Salisu, Lavia, Walker-Peters, Ward-Prowse, Elyounoussi, Diallo, Edozie, Adams.

Subs: Alcaraz, Orsic, Maitland-Niles, Aribo, Adam Armstrong, Caballero, Perraud, Mara, Djenepo.


Nottingham Forest XI: Henderson, Aurier, Worrall, McKenna, Lodi, Mangala, Yates, Freuler, Furtado Scarpa, Johnson, Gibbs-White.

Subs: Hennessey, Cook, Williams, Colback, O’Brien, Toffolo. Surridge, Mighten, Dennis.

Leicester City XI: Ward, Castagne, Amartey, Faes, Thomas, Mendy, Ndidi Tielemans, Albrighton, Barnes, Vardy.

Subs: Iversen, Soyuncu, Iheanacho, Daka, Vestergaard, Praet, Brunt, Braybrooke, McAteer.


Wolverhampton Wanderers XI: Sa, Collins, Bueno, Kilman, Semedo, Moutinho, Neves, Nunes, Hwang, Podence, Cunha.

Subs: Sarkic, Ait-Nouri, Lemina, Jimenez, Jonny, Toti, Traore, Hodge, Campbell.

West Ham United XI: Fabianski, Cresswell, Ogbonna, Aguerd, Coufal, Rice, Soucek, Fornals, Paqueta, Bowen, Antonio.

Subs: Randolph, Johnson, Zouma, Scamacca, Lanzini, Downes, Kehrer, Emerson.


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  1. AutoFill 2021
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 days ago

    Teams have worked out Haaland.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      Yup

    2. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      More so City

    3. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      I think a big part of it is to cut out his supply line ie. De Bruyne

  2. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 days ago

    To paraphrase the late great Brian Clough, if a forward in the penalty area is not interfering with play, what is he doing there?

  3. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 days ago

    TAA 9 pointer will do...

  4. Mirror Man
      3 years, 2 days ago

      Is it just me or does it look like De Bruyne has eaten all the pies?

    • Kjr
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      VAR is killing the game again.
      Its the enemy of Fair play, the Perfect tool to dictate results.

    • PogChamp
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      I backed United at 175/1 just for a bit of a joke really. Getting nervous now lol.

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        They already won. What u nervous about

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          Oh to win the league?

          1. PogChamp
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Yes to win the league

            1. Zimo
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              I hope u win that bet

              1. PogChamp
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Cheers me too

    • Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      When arguing about Bruno's goal, please refer to the rules. Otherwise, you are likely just going off of your personal opinion of what the rules are, which is kinda useless to everyone... Do you disagree with the rules or with the application (in general or in this case)? Why?
      _____________

      A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

      1) interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate

      2) interfering with an opponent by:

      a) preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision

      b) challenging an opponent for the ball

      c) clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent

      d) making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

      https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside

      1. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        Tldr

        1. The Senate
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          TLDR: Bruno was onside

      2. Mom, Butters just gave me a…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        I would say, maybe (a) and even more maybe (c).

        It's just that the rule is too vague, what does it mean "clearly".

        1. RashFraud
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          a and c don’t come into play here because none of the city defenders were even close to rashford, let alone the ball

        2. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          Well Rashford didn't attempt to play the ball, so the definition of 'clearly' isn't relevant today, but you could ask that question in general, sure. Playing the ball means kicking, heading, shooting, passing, crossing, etc.

          Concerning 2a, nobody's ability to play the ball was prevented by Rashford at all, let alone by obstruction. They chose not to try to play the ball (perhaps due to Rashford's actions), but that isn't penalised by the rules.

      3. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        This has all been covered here https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/25587582

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          Sure, everyone has had their say on that post, you're right

      4. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        (d) applies but is open to interpretation.

        It is unclear what is ability. Psychological ability? Physical ability? They are dependent on each other. A player loses his ability to play in either case.

        In previous instances, psychological ability was taken into account, but not here. The inconsistency of the interpretation is the problem here.

        1. Deulofail
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          Psychological ability was not prevented. Their psychological desire or something, yeah, but not ability. He didn't frazzle his brain. If you're right, then at least the refs were right today, and wrong in the past.

          Although I assume the phrasing has been changed since these instances you're talking about(?), but it would be nice to see examples, if you have any.

    • TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 days ago

      So far the gameweek is going well.

      Chose not to transfer Mount to Rodrigo
      Chose Rashford (c) over Haaland

      Next big decision was starting Bueno over White.

      Can't believe I'm about to watch a Wolves game.....

      1. TheBiffas
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        Tldr

        1. TheTinman
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 days ago

          Imitation is the lowest form of wit

          1. TheBiffas
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Least I got a bite out of you

      2. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 days ago

        tldr

        1. Mirror Man
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Imitation is the lowest form of wit

            1. TheBiffas
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              He's called the mirror man for a reason

              1. Mirror Man
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Least I got a bite out of you

                  1. Scalper
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    I sea what you did there

                    1. Mirror Man
                        3 years, 2 days ago

                        Tldr

          • JohnnyCroat
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            So, Rashford at 9 for the Palace game? Boots filled..

            1. Zimo
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Wout Weghorst!

              1. JohnnyCroat
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Ah doubt he'd be ready. But on the bench probably.

                1. Zimo
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Yeah probably Garnacho on the wing and Rashford up top

              2. Lingard’s Shin Guards
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Prob too early, but if anything he'd be in for martial and rashy stays wide

          • It's Fergie Time
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            this is the 1st GW since I've been playing FPL that I haven't had a liverpool player in my team, feels weird.

          • Ze_Austin
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Mac Allister and Lallana both starting. Could mean Mac is still deep

            1. TheTinman
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Mac is very much on the watch list so would be disappointing if so. Makes Mitoma the clear standout.

              1. Debauchy
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Yeah likewise , still tossing up between both

          • putana
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            congrats to the rashford cappers so far. Thought he would outscore haaland but didnt have the balls to do it

            1. Arn De Gothia
              • 15 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Thanks

          • Debauchy
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Lost on last post , Happy enough as Bruno owner and a die hard Arsenal supporter . However that was a criminal decision which irks me much that such an obvious offside was not given , seems most English refs just have no clue !

            1. Jafooli
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Agreed, but think it’s the offside rule that sucks as much as anything…although Rashy was defo influencing City Def & GK thoughts and decisions by his presence…

              1. Debauchy
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Aye Jaf aye but loved the Bruno goal so get innn

          • Sandy Ravage
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            3-3 written all over this

          • lilmessipran
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Brighton gonna win this one, aren't they?

            1. Debauchy
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Yep

              1. lilmessipran
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Mitoma to do Trent dirty?

            2. TheBiffas
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              We seem to play better as the underdogs, so you never know

          • Gubby-Allen
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 2 days ago

            Roughly how many PL players, currently playing, have got an MBE?

            1. Jafooli
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              I can only think of Coutinho…

            2. Mirror Man
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Only those who fail to deliver at World Cups and Euros. So probably 50 or so.

              • Gubby-Allen
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Robertson has one, I didn't know that

              • The Knights Template
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                There are more FPL enthusiasts with Knighthoods, I know that!

            3. OptimusBlack
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              I choose Ramsdale over Ward am i gonna regret about that ?

              1. TheBiffas
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                I did the same so probably, yeah

              2. Sun Jihai
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Kepa over Ward here - gonna regret

            4. Jafooli
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 days ago

              Pep made only one sub….geez Foden must feel gutted atm….

              1. Mirror Man
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Fringe player

                • Bartowski
                  • 15 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Not a surprise he gets picked on with that haircut to be fair...

                • OptimusBlack
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  I feel he would start next match with same 11 but Grealish instead of Foden

                • JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Should have taken off Cancelo after 60min, would have helped the team.

              2. Ze_Austin
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Liverpool's defending isn't even funny anymore

              3. putana
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                liverpool not winning this game

                1. Sandy Ravage
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  not while it's still 0-0

                2. JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  How the fck, doesn't Brighton score there?!? What a mess up of a counter attack.

              4. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Garnacho Had big impact coming on and made that second goal..

                1. Debauchy
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Yep , but but but Bruno goal changed the game Jaf

              5. Shark Team
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                I don’t know how Liverpool will avoid conceding at least 3 goals there

              6. Chalobah's Witness
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                smart move to bet on brighton win or draw?

                1. JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Yrs

                2. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Yes but hard to make much of a buck.

                  1. Chalobah's Witness
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    depends on the invest 😉

              7. g40steve
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                FFS need to sort this out, one week wonder teams!

                Probably half the team listed are similar or dead?

                https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/11060626/event/20/

                1. Jafooli
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Agreed, shambles of a situation…although FPL not FSS….

                2. FPL Brains
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  FFS?

                3. g40steve
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  The autocorrect on my iPad, FPL â˜šī¸

                4. The Knights Template
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  I find this sort of thing very hard to belebes.

                  1. Bartowski
                    • 15 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    That's because you're too much of an outstamping manager to lower your self KT.

                5. banskt
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  FPL need to sort out their server first.

                  But they don't care. It's a marketing handle, nothing else.

                  Actual solution is easy: no new teams allowed in after gw1 deadline. But that would affect the marketing, so it's not possible to do that.

              8. Sandy Ravage
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Brighton are swarming all over the ball like seagulls hunting chips by the seaside

                1. tbos83
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  I once had my ice cream nicked by a seagull. Gutted.

              9. tisza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Mituma looking a good upgrade possibility for Andreas.

                1. Chalobah's Witness
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Bailey 😉

                2. Bobby Digital
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  So does Bailey

              10. Chalobah's Witness
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                "Mitoma" literally means "Withgranny" in German.
                It's not funny, it's just a fact.

                ps. we're absolute shite these days. We deserve to lose here.

                1. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  I mean it's "mit oma" if we're being picky. Not quite a fact if you remove the spaces!

                  And yes, but not as shite as us.

                  1. Chalobah's Witness
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    jeez you're so german, I like that 😀

              11. Scapegoat Salah
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Salah blank so far, lovely jubbly

                1. RICICLE
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  It bloody isn’t haha, I have never needed him to do well so much as today

              12. RICICLE
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 2 days ago

                Oh of course KDB gets two bonus

                1. Mr. O'Connell
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Why of course?

                  1. RICICLE
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    Like it’s just typical

                2. Bobby Digital
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  one*

                3. JBG
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  ??? Says 1bp when I checked now.

                  Rash 24
                  Bruno 23
                  Casemiro 22
                  Kdb 22

                  1. RICICLE
                    • 3 Years
                    3 years, 2 days ago

                    Oh good, that’s better then

                  2. Mirror Man
                      3 years, 2 days ago

                      50% better. Not half bad.

                4. Fabreghastly
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 2 days ago

                  Loving the TAA offside - officials obviously didn't watch the Manchester Derby