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Nott’m Forest v Man Utd team news: Shaw misses out

16 April 2023 447 comments
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Sunday’s Premier League action concludes at The City Ground, where Nottingham Forest and Manchester United go head-to-head.

Steve Cooper’s side are currently in 18th place in the Premier League standings and are without a win since Gameweek 22, while the Red Devils were held to a disappointing 2-2 draw by Sevilla in midweek.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

Raphael Varane, Lisandro Martinez, Luke Shaw and Marcus Rashford are all absent for the visitors, as Erik ten Hag makes three changes to the side that started on Thursday.

Tyrell Malacia is also missing from the matchday squad, with Victor Lindelof, Harry Maguire and Diogo Dalot coming in. That means Anthony Martial continues up front, flanked by Antony and Jadon Sancho.

As for Nott’m Forest, they make four alterations to the team that lost 2-0 to Aston Villa in Gameweek 30. Scott McKenna, Renan Lodi, Remo Freuler and Taiwo Awoniyi come in for Joe Worrall, Harry Toffolo, Jonjo Shelvey and Cheikhou Kouyate.

*Marcel Sabitzer picked up an injury in the warm-up so Christian Eriksen has replaced him in the starting XI.

GAMEWEEK 31 LINE-UPS

Nottingham Forest XI: Navas, Felipe, Niakhate, McKenna, Williams, Freuler, Danilo, Lodi, Gibbs-White, Johnson, Awoniyi

Subs: Hennessey, Worrall, Mangala, Shelvey, Lingard, Toffolo, Surridge, Dennis, Ayew

Manchester United XI: de Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Dalot, Casemiro, Eriksen, Antony, Fernandes, Sancho, Martial

Subs: Butland, Fred, Weghorst, Pellistri, Williams, Elanga, Iqbal, Jurado, Bishop

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  1. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Remember when lots of people advocated a "big at the back" strategy? My three defenders managed to get two points between the lot of them this week.

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    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Amateur hour. I got 4 😉

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      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Same here.

        Tripper Estupinian Henry in for Shaw

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        1. Gazwaz80
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          3 here 😀

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      2. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Look at Mr Big Shot here with his 4 points

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        1. Gazwaz80
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Nobody likes a show off:D

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    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Kilman & White have been quietly getting me points all year

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  2. THFC4LIFE
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    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Pool should rip Forest apart next week, if only we knew who would start in the front 3 alongside Salah

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    1. notlob legin
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      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I'm risking Darwin on FH depending on tomorrow's game - as long as he avoids injury

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      1. The Ilfordian
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Me too. You’d think first choice and no problem with a strong bench if he doesn’t play

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        1. notlob legin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Probably Maddison or Eze 1st bench for me so no worries

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        2. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Cameo is likely if he doesn’t start though

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          1. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Fair comment but I think on a FH you need to take some risks - I think this risk is worth taking. Otherwise all teams will be the same

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            1. THFC4LIFE
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Yeah I agree mate, good luck

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              1. notlob legin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                You too

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              2. Gazwaz80
                • 6 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                I’ve had Darwin all week in my mind, but because of the ‘definite maybe’ start with him, I’ve gone for Mo, Trent and Robbo…

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          2. The Ilfordian
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            He who dares eh!

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  3. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Manchester United has the best defensive record in the whole of Europe

    ten Hag has transformed that defence in a very short span of time

    Credit where it's due

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    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Haven't they conceded 13 more goals in the league than Newcastle this season?

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      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        highest number of clean sheets in all of europe

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        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Their underlying data which is the best predictor of the future and indicator of their true defence strength is no where near top tier

          They conceded over 0.8 xG today, would have conceded in 80% of matches if played again

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          1. FantasyTony
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            I don't think that's necessarily true. Like if you use xG as like a definitive stat, then yeah you're right.

            But a team who gives away tonnes of low xG shots could have the same xG as a team gave away one or two high X shots.

            I guess to put it in simpler terms, would you rather give away 2 shots that have a 25% chance of going in or 1 shot with a 50% chance?

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            1. AC/DC AFC
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              • 10 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Is there a difference?

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              1. FantasyTony
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                Yes.

                The probability of scoring from 2 X 0.25xG chances isn't the same as 1X 0.5xG.

                It's actually 0.4375.

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        2. Hairy Potter
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          The team with the best attack is the one that scored the most goals over the season.

          The team with the best defence is the one that concedes the fewest goals over the season.

          Handily, goals for and goals against are recorded in league tables as a recognised metric. They are then used for goal difference, to help decide on league position, in the event of teams having the same number of points.

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      2. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, but only six more than arsenal. At home they've conceded one less (8 Vs 9) which just shows how bad that away form is....

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    2. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      They have the 6th best in the Prem behind the likes of even Liverpool and Chelsea

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    3. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Apart from the 6 teams who have conceded less in just the Prem

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      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        They've conceded a lot in a small number of games. Most shut ours in the league after last season's performance is impressive

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        1. Danno - Emre Canada
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

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          1. Danno - Emre Canada
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Opps that was a thumbs up

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    4. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Worst FFS poster ever

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    5. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Is this parody?

      I don’t get it?

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    6. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      You are the biggest muppet on this site and I am on it. That says a great deal about you.

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  4. Firminooooo
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    68 points all out. Green arrow, but Salah can still destroy my rank.

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    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Probably not destroy, his ownership isn’t that high and not that captained

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    2. Gandalf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      21% EO so a 10 pointer would only drop you 2 EO points.

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    3. Firminooooo
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Just checked on What If. Will keep my green arrow until Salah 20 points. Not so bad.

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  5. KunDogan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Points from other team than Watkins & Haaland:
    5
    1-1-1
    3-2-2-0
    2
    Great success…

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    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      At least you had Watkins

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      1. KunDogan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yep!

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  6. Philosopher's Stones
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A bit sad to see DDG didn't get any penalties to save. But we move.

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    1. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think he’s only saved two penalties his whole career. Something close to that.

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  7. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Pretty depressing to have Bruno Fernandes get the same points as Forest’s £4.5m Danilo in the last 4 matches (10 points)
    0 assists to 1
    17 chances created vs. 1
    😀

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    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      1 chance created and one assist. Danilo is a magician.

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    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Even more depressing is the fact that BruNo scored 4 times more points than Saka in last 3 GW.

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  8. dshv
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Just saw the results.
    Pressure on Arsenal paid off,
    Saka miss pen too
    Etihad waiting for you!

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  9. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    So long as Bruno keeps the 10 spot points will come. He ran the show deserved something from that.

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  10. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Good evening everyone!!! Only have 1 decision this week, not on FH, going to do Chilwell to TAA and Haaland to a forward of some description!! Haaland comes straight back in for Kane in 33… team is..

    Neto
    Trippier Mings Emerson
    Salah Saka Martinelli Olise
    Kane Watkins

    No fixture- Kepa Haaland Mitoma Estupinan Chilwell

    Emerson will be benched for TAA

    Any advice on the best forward to go for folks????

    Advice appreciated!!!

    Cheers everyone!!

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    1. Kingy109
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      The safe choice would be Jesus but he does have City in 33
      Toney can still play it seems
      If you can guess which one Pool would also give you Gw34 doubler unless FH

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      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers mate!!! Jesus seems to be the front runner currently that’s for sure, Toney tempting too!! Darwin and Jota also, think I’d go for the Liverpool forward if I knew which one would start!! But I fear that will never be the case so maybe Jesus is sensible

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        1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          *no FH left

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  11. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Just 5 goals in 15 away games for Forest this season
    10 blanks and in the other 5 games, 1 goal scored
    Double Liverpool defence on FH can't go wrong surely! 😉

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    1. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I’m up for it

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    2. RichardNixon
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Salah, TAA and Robertson for me. Not sure abut Arsenal defenders though. Atm I have:

      Johnstone
      Trippier TAA Robertson
      Salah Martinelli Odegaard Bowen Eze
      Watkins Jesus

      Might switch Johnstone and Odegaard for Ramsdale and Maddison (or some other midfielder)

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    3. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I'm doing it ... but my god, can it go wrong.

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  12. Gudjohnsen
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Am I too late to do Toney to Watkins?

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    1. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah one day late

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    2. Heavy Cream
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Never too late

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  13. Heavy Cream
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Raya
    Mings Trip Mee Burn
    Eze Marti Saka
    Watkins Kane Jesus

    Kepa Estu Mitoma Grealish

    No FH. Will bring Haaland back week after. G2G guys?

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  14. Firminooooo
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    One will have to go for Salah in GW33. Who to drop? (FHGW32)

    Bruno, Rashford Grealish MacAllister March

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    1. Firminooooo
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Tempted to gamble on Darwin instead of Salah. But could kill my rank. (14k)

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      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Tempted to get both

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      2. FPL_trail_runner
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        This is an easy decision

        You need Mitoma & Salah over Mac and Bruno

        I plan to do Mac to Mitoma in 33 as he will be dm most likely going forward

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Obvious answer would be Bruno.

      But honestly I think there’s a possibility by 33 you’ll want rid of most of them.

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    3. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno

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    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      MacAllister? Probably plays deeper for a few weeks with Veltman injured
      Most will sell Bruno to fund Salah, but does feel like a haul is due at any time from him

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  15. JBG
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool fans, do you think Gakpo starts tomorrow?

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    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      They would know no better than a non Liverpool fan.

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    2. Bobby Crush
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      yes

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    3. Firminooooo
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yes.

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  16. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    FH ?

    Mings or Moreno

    Keeper Johnson or Martinez ( Watkins, Defender already)

    NewC CS Spurs see a clean sheet?

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    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Moreno, I wanted him 2-3 gws ago, but picked Mings cause I thought Digne would get a match over him, how wrong was I.

      Johnstone, just to hedge your bets I guess.

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      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Reminds me of how Digne trolled me even without owning him
        Got Moreno in for GW22 when he had 0.2% ownership
        Gets me 2 points while I own him due to Digne starting over him, including in a game where Villa keep a CS and scores 5 points while on my bench (vs. Arsenal + City)
        Sell Moreno in my GW26 WC due to rotation, he then becomes nailed and scores 42 points in 7 games! D'oh

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        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          That's not trolling. Surely after him playing 3 games in a row it's pretty obvious that he's nailed.

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          1. Sun Jihai
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            When I owned Moreno, Digne started 3 of the 4 games despite Moreno looking better every time he got subbed on for him and Digne having meant to be out injured initially. Digne starting the BGW25 game vs. Everton made me think Moreno isn't worth the rotation headache and so I sold on my WC. Then Moreno became completely nailed lol

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  17. Skout
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Good chance Shaw and Rash will be back for DGW34?

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    1. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I think so judging by ETH comments. If Rash makes an appearance at Sevilla he will be fine imo

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Seems a decent chance.

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    3. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Shaw I'd say yes, Rash I'm starting to doubt

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  18. Tcheco
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Isak or Jesus?

    If I get Jesus he will probably be transferred to Isak when NEW have DGW (37?)

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    1. Kingy109
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      It won't be 36 as Brighton already double then, the smart money is on 36.

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      1. space mercenary
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I don't understand this.

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        1. syke63
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          He meant 'wont be 37'. Brighton vs Newcastle will almost certainly be a double in 36.

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          1. space mercenary
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Oh, ok. Seems logical.

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    2. space mercenary
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I have Isak but Jesus until the Newcastle double sounds like a good shout.

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    3. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Jesus I would like but cannot fit into my front three of Kane/Watkins & Haaland at the moment

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  19. JohnnyCroat
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    I'd like to say Dalot rescued my week, but he only put a shine on the shinola. Salah hattrick for a green arrow I think....

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    1. syke63
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Fair play for having Dalot.

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  20. Bluetiger1
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Sorry folks - Just got & shocked to see Arsenal surrender a two goal lead & for FPL Managers with Saka missed pen.

    Don't worry Gooners pressure has not got to the team & I'm sure all Arsenal will stay top/not bottle run in with Manchester City as majority of team now fit & not playing FA Cup or Champions League - possible four more games for City?

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    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Arsenal totally bottled it as they did against Pool. When it got tough they capitulated. Don't think they have the mental strength to win the title.

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    2. syke63
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Don't think Arsenal fans are shocked at giving away 2 nil leads anymore. But if they were to do the same Friday night, then yes, shocked!

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  21. Bluetiger1
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    GW32 only

    A. Jesus for Haaland?
    or
    B. Salah for Maddison?

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    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

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      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thank-you

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    2. syke63
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Everyone on a FH will have Salah so you'll probably need him

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      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Thank-you

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  22. FPL_trail_runner
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Lots of options open for next week with Salah to go 2mor, 63 points so far and at 70k , 1ft and 1.7mil in bank

    Gona be
    Rashford to Saka (C) *
    or
    Bench Rashford and
    Mac > Odegaard , then get Mitoma for Odegaard in 33

    Iversen
    Trippier Kilman Mee White
    Salah Martinelli Benrahma *
    Kane Watkins
    Steele Haaland Dunk Rashford/Mac

    Decent 11, should be grey arrow against the FH.

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    1. Sure You Did
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      What is the question?

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      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Which is more optimal

        Rashford > saka (c)

        Mac > Odegaard and who knows who to captain

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  23. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this FH draft?

    Johnstone
    TAA, Robbo, Alex Moreno
    Salah, Martinelli, Saka, Eze
    Watkins, Jesus, Solanke

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    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Very template

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  24. Cheeky Reijnders
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Looking like a BHA v MCI FA Cup final.

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