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Dugout Discussion – Community Shield

12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. aflickering
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    assuming RVP is still here by next weekend, but still hasn't signed a new deal, is everyone going for him? or is it going to be a little like ronaldo's final season at utd, for example, where his desire to be elsewhere significantly curbs his output?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      he'll sign for United tomorrow

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    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'm going for him regardless 😀

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  2. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Horn's having a stonker

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Blimey!

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  3. FPL_J05H
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    GW1 team

    Fed (DDG)

    Hangelaand, A Cole, Harte, (McCartney, Clyne)

    Bale, Ramires, Noble, Yaya, (Maloney)

    Tevez, Aguero, Torres(c)

    0.5M in the bank for Aguero to Rooney GW2

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    1. aflickering
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      downgrade yaya to a 6.5 and change torres to rooney instead IMO

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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Your midfield choice will probably come down to Noble or Maloney most week and they don't rotate favorably, you may want to keep that in mind.

      Don't think Harte will start too many games for Reading, even if he does you already have Federici.

      I have De Gea and I intend on playing him every week as I'd give him a better chance than Federici in every game. Perhaps you could do Federici to a 4 million keeper and use the 0.5 saved to upgrade Maloney to Ireland, who rotates better with Noble?

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      1. FPL_J05H
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        federici's in there purely for the double gameweek then DDG will be 1st choice, i could do maloney for al ahmadi but i like the thought of Ian Harte being a cheap Baines (Pens, FK's, Corners) also shorey was signed as back up for Harte

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  4. Manani
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    any cheap 2 way rotations recommended?
    I am looking to play Lescott/A.cole + 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.0

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  5. Conor Salmon for life
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    is carzola nailed on ?

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  6. Kostja
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone else think that to get the best team GW2 a 4pt hit is required?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      What 2 transfers would you do?

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        no idea yet, but I would want to bring in Rooney and a Tott or United midfielder. Getting rid of Torres or and my Chelsea mid whoever it will be GW1

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'll be taking a hit gw 2 i think

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    3. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I certainly do.....but trying to persuade myself out of it...

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    4. Mick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Essentially yes, I think 2 chelsea players are a must....risks must be taken in situations like this imo

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        I agree, their crappy play has not put me off them. They always do better against weaker sides.

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  7. shegull
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    again:

    what was arsenals starting lineup?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Check the last time you posted it...

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      again:

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/08/12/dugout-discussion-community-shield/comment-page-24/#comment-3582428

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      1. shegull
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        thank you!

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  8. Corrigan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    History Notes from CS 2011

    Silva was quiet
    Rooney was quiet
    Young was quiet, but Nani scored 2
    Lescott scored

    Bearing in mind Lescott then failed to score till March, Young, Silva and Rooney started the PL season on fire and Nani was "relatively" quiet (still good for points), today's match isn't necessarily a sign of things to come.

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Silva played 14 mins!

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      1. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry i didn't read that properly!

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      2. Corrigan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        2011

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, but I think Tevez will be Tevez and do work. I'm sticking with Aguero, but it could change. Not before the season starts though.

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      1. Declan-
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        ^^This

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Don't ruin the bandwagons! Last year isn't necessarily a sign of things to come either now is it?

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      1. Corrigan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Nope, just being open minded. Using your City quota on the likes of Kolarov and Yaya over Aguero and Silva may look great today, but long term...

        FWIT I'd avoid the City MF

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          Yep I'm likely going for Kolarov and Tevez.

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  9. faulksp
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    I cannot seem to log on to the Barclaycard site.....thought I had got password wrong so requested a new one (several times) with no response. Just set up a new account in desperation and it does not recognise that when I try to log on .....is it just me ? I am starting to panic a bit now.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      i cant log in from afternoon, its just loading, loading

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    2. faulksp
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Is everyone else logging on ?

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  10. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    These Arabic (?) commentators are bloody mental!!

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      The joys of the internet... 🙂

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    2. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      And unavoidable. quite an excitable bunch...

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  11. Feed tha Sheep
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Couple of important decisions for gw1!
    Mata or hazard?
    Yaya or silva?
    Will Kagawa start?
    Is Torres worth captaining?
    Rio and kompany or vidic and Lescott?

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  12. rdb
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Would appreciate some opinions, very confused about this!!

    A) Aguero + graham + siggurdsson
    B) Rooney + tevez + dyer

    Team is:
    ddg/fed
    cashley koscielny hughes fonte demel
    mata guthrie kagawa nolan _____
    torres ______ _____

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    2. Feed tha Sheep
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I'd go with b personally

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  13. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Surely having Tevez and Aguero is overkill? It's not like their fixtures other than their first 2 home games are brilliant..

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      It might work but i won't be having both

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    2. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Transfers. Plus, an early wildcard after GW 3. I'm toying with the early WC idea.

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      now i have a dillema, I am starting with Kun Torres Tevez, upgrading Kun to roon.
      but now, I may have to change my plan

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    4. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      That's 2 of my forward since last week. Good to see Tevez starting strongly. Defoe is my other striker.

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    5. Mick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      As tevez costs less than silva, for me if your going to have two city attack options then it might aswell be the front 2. You have to stop thinking of it as midfielders and attackers, at the end of the day its the attacking output we will be looking for from both players and I both think that Silva won't be near as prolific a point scorer as he was last season and that tevez will steel many of those points

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  14. JW10
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Cazorla on set pieces. Corner delivery superb and he has a mean free kick on him. Doesn't matter who you are playing...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7r-dABdkc

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      That free kick almost had me in tears. Signalled the beginning of the end of my betting career.

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    2. JW10
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Should be the most nailed on out of the new 3, playing CAM

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  15. Nighthawk
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Thnkng of going with a 3-5-2 and spending heavy in the middle.

    Silva / Hazard / Bale / Cazorla / Kagawa

    Thoughts?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Would rather a cheap midfielder and Rooney up top instead of Kagawa

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    2. Mick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Might aswell have tevez instead of silva and he gives you and extra mil to spend

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  16. Squerly4568
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    is cerny no. 1 for QPR

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      No, Green

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  17. andres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Is lampard likely to play both gw1 games??

    Maybe go safe with ramires looks decent and nailed on for both games.

    Thx

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  18. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    What do we think:

    A) Terry and Saylor (or other 7m + 5m defenders)
    B) Zabaleta and Kolarov

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Kolarov and another 6m imo

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    2. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think the value is in expensive def mysell milanista, lack of bonus points unless they're scoring.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Which Kolarov will likely do.

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      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        You going with 5 cheapies then? Its one strategy I'm considering to begin with.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 4 months ago

          I've gone 23.5. Not including keepers, Kos, Rangel, Hughes, Gorks, Cuellar

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 4 months ago

            I've been looking at 23.5 with Rangel, Saylor, Boyce, Cuellar and Gunter

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    3. Strawberry Jelavic
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      B?????? Insanity IMO

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        If City don't sign a new CB I think Zabaleta will play nearly every game, either at RB or CB.

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  19. Sheffield Rules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    A) Federici and Demel

    Or

    B) Jaaskelainen and Gorkss/Gunter

    Other keeper is DeGea.

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    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      A

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  20. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Do people think Ramires will get more points this season than he did last?

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think he will get less, as he is unlikely play so far up the field as he did last season. I think Mata, Hazard, Marin, Oscar- all will be infront of him as the attacking midfielders.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I do.

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    3. Mick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      I think he has great potential, he will be a pain for many people mark my words..... he was easily Chelseas best player for the final third of last season and for me should be guarantied a place as a result

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  21. cahno
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Hi guys first comment! Would really appreciate a RMT thanks

    Jass, Fed

    A.Cole, Lescott (third spot rotation between Gunther, Clyne and Demel)

    Taarabt, Bale, Kagawa, Ramires (Noble)

    Djibril Cisse, Aguero, Rooney

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  22. JW10
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    podolski riffles in a 3rd

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Robin who?

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  23. Manamongst
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Podol brace.

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  24. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Podolski brace!

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      Great player, good price, decent team,

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  25. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Oh god, another bandwagon

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      There's no way we can fit them all in...

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  26. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    I cant connect FPL site from afternoon (its loading, loading...). Can anyone check how many YC Rooney and RVP got last year? thanks

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    1. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      1 for roon and 8 for vp

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  27. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Yaya Toure is an absolute steal at 8.0.

    Silva may score a few more points but can see him suffering from rotation more than Yaya and is 2mill more expensive.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 4 months ago

      You!

      You've told me before Clyne is likely to start and you fancy him this season, do you still think that? Anything in pre-season happened that puts doubt over his starting position?

      Also, Puncheon, read reports of your last 2 pre-season games, seems like he's playing well, is he likely to to start every week?

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 4 months ago

        Me yes me!

        Clyne yes every week

        Puncheon no not every week

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  28. Crabster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Tevez or Aguero..???

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  29. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Hi all

    Could you please RMT and comment?

    Given , federici

    Vermaelen, fabio, cole, Cuellar, Tierney

    N'zogbia, lampard, bale, larsson, maloney/noble?

    Torres, Tevez, graham

    £2.5m in bank for Torres to Rooney 

    Thank you

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  30. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 4 months ago

    Podolski again !

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