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12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Aguero vs Torres for C) just became Aguero vs Tevez vs Torres.
    Someone help me!

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    1. Manani
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      get all 3, that's what i am doing

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      1. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
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        i already have the3 ,
        whos the captain?

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    2. Feed tha Sheep
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      I'm going with Torres buti fancy city to score a bagful!!

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  2. Kanus hat trick
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    Love Pod- just loves to put his foot through it

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      He could teach Suarez a thing or two!

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  3. mufc802
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    Wish Podolski was classed as a MF. 🙁

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  4. Dabbi
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    hey guys.. been lurking alot around this site but never posted. Wondering what you think abot my team for the first gw:

    Cech/jussi
    zabaleta//hangeland/a. Cole/evra/kaboul
    sigurdsson/yaya /joe allen / kagawa / n. Dyer
    Tevez/Podolski/pogrebnyak

    I'm not feeling 100% confident with the setup but what do you think?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Its ok. Arsenals fixtures are rubbish
      Not sure on the Chelsea double at the back
      Allen, no no no

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      strange front line here

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    3. Seamy
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      Rip it up and start again in my opinion

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  5. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Just got back and missed the community shield guys, gonna watch highlights later.

    What knowledge have you going through watching it? Who were the stand-out players?

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    1. Kylos
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yaya, milner, rameries, tevez and torres

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Your captain got an assist but lost a point for conceding twice. He was also the stand-out player 😉

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    3. Ramseys Rovers
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      Tevez

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  6. Screaming Midget
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    Some belters from the late Sid Waddell... RIP.

    1. “Keith Deller is like Long John Silver – he’s badly in need of another leg.”

    2. "There's only one word for that: magic darts!"

    3. "William Tell could take an apple off your head, Taylor could take out a processed pea."

    4. “As they say at the DHSS, we’re getting the full benefit here.”

    5. “The players are under so much duress, it’s like duressic park out there!”

    6. “The atmosphere is so tense, if Elvis walked in, with a portion of chips... you could hear the vinegar sizzle on them.”

    7. "When Alexander of Macedonia was 33, he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer... Bristow's only 27."

    8. "Phil Taylor's got the consistency of a planet... and he's in a darts orbit!"

    9. “That was like throwing three pickled onions into a thimble!”

    10. It's like Dracula getting out of his grave and asking for a few chips with his steak."

    11. "This game of darts is twisting like a rattlesnake with a hernia!"

    12. "Keith Deller's not just an underdog, he's an underpuppy!"

    13."This lad has more checkouts than Tescos."

    14."Cliff Lazarenko's idea of exercise is a firm press on a soda siphon.

    15. "Rod [Harrington] now looking like Kevin Costner when told the final cost of Waterworld."

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
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      Only found out a second ago. So sad

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      Sid Waddell died?!?!

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      1. Somalion
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        Yep!

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      2. Screaming Midget
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        Yep

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      3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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        I love no7. I remember there being one about him saying "Ahhhhhhhh Bristo" as well.

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      4. Declan-
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        yep. 72 years old

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  7. Rtas
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    A: Kolarov, 6.5 Mid, Graham

    B: Alcaraz, Dyer, Tevez

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    1. QOTSA
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      A by a mile.

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  8. Manani
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    southampton+QPR vs Norwich+Wigan,

    which rotation looks more solid. (the defence CS chance)

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      The latter.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
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        who from norwich? that's the question.....

        thanks

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
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          Tierney and I think Bennett but not sure.

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        2. SouthCoastSaint
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          Tierney or Bennett both 4.0

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          1. Manani
            • 14 Years
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            which is more attacking/going forward?

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  9. OPTA FPL
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    repost last page:

    I cant connect FPL site from afternoon (its loading, loading…). Can anyone check how many YC Rooney and RVP got last year? thanks

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Not many

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
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        how many? i need the number

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    2. mufc802
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      Rooney 1, RVP 8.

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        cheers

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    3. blue cheese
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      RVP - 8
      Rooney - 1

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
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        Nitin, what do you think of Kolarov and Verm as my 2 big hitting defenders?

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        1. blue cheese
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          Not bad at all. Could pay off handsomely.

          I'm thinking of getting in Vermaelen sometime after Gw6.

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            It's a complete shakeup of my 1 + 2 x 2 rotation though lol.

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    4. faulksp
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      I can't get on at all.....

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  10. Sheffield Rules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
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    A) Federici and Demel

    Or

    B) Jaaskelainen and Gorkss/Gunter

    Other keeper is DeGea.

    ##

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    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A

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  11. The Finnisher
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    Half time, Arsenal 3-0
    Good half, Cazorla pulling the strings in attack in behind Giroud, the rest of the attackers are all over the place. Giroud had a few good chances but Horn has been pulling off some decent saves. Podolski on penalties and sharing corner kicks with Cazorla, scored a brace and looks good. One too watch!

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    1. Manani
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      who scored the other goal?

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      1. Kanus hat trick
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        Verm

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      2. OPTA FPL
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        Verm

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      3. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
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        Vermaelen, Cazorla corner kick flicked on by Mertesacker.

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    2. QOTSA
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      Pulling the strings but nothing to show for it. Hmm. May have to revise my GW1 punt on Cazorla.

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Yep, if he cant score or assist in 45 minutes on his debut then he has no chance of being in my team.

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        1. QOTSA
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          Long term I'd have him but for a GW1 punt I'm looking for someone who is scoring right now. If he's playing well and not getting assists/goals then I'm not going to risk having him. But having said that it's either him or Kagawa.

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    3. SouthCoastSaint
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      Fair play Jackoff, you said Cazorla would be in behind Giroud.

      Changes at half time?

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Think there is an entire re-shuffle, different team coming out
        https://twitter.com/MarkG_Arsenal/status/234658235334946816/photo/1 The bottom team second half, if you are interested.

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        1. SouthCoastSaint
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          Thanks

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    4. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      Nice analysis.

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  12. Gregor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
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    What Chelsea midfielder are people plumping for then?

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  13. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best 6.5 mid besides pienaar???

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    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
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      nzog..?

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    2. Seamy
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      larsson or michu. Id personally plump for Larsson

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    3. Declan-
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      McClean

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    4. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      McClean.

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    5. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
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      McClean, :Larsson, Nzogbia.

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  14. The Finnisher
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    Straight shootout;
    A. Zabaleta and Dyer (rotating with Guthrie)
    B. S.Taylor and Pienaar (playing each week)

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Dyer/Guthrie rotation means its got to be B.

      Zabaleta is looking increasingly appealing to me though. Think he'll be nailed-on if City don't sign a CB?

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      B.

      Saylor + Pienaar nailed on.

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  15. DropPointsNotBombs
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    Anyone watching the basketball final?

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    1. Kanus hat trick
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      Come on Spain (even though they have no chance)

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    2. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
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      Yep, Arsenal on my laptop, basketball on the tele.
      🙂

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  16. FPL_J05H
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    A or B

    A

    GW1 team

    Fed (DDG)

    Hangelaand, A Cole, Harte, (McCartney, Clyne)

    Bale, Ramires, Noble, Yaya, (Maloney)

    Tevez, Aguero, Torres(c)

    0.5M in the bank for Aguero to Rooney GW2

    B

    Fed (DDG)

    Hangelaand, Kolarov, Harte, (McCartney, Clyne)

    Bale, Ramires, Noble, Yaya, (Michu)

    Petric, Tevez, Torres(c)

    with £5M spare in the bank for later changes?

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  17. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ok, RMT 7.534

    DDG Federici
    Ivanovic Kolarov Cuellar Lowton McCartney
    Kagawa Sinclair Yaya Bale Noble
    Tevez Torres Petric

    1 mil spare for shizzle!

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  18. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Mancini says in his press conference that Micah Richards will be out for a month with an ankle injury but Joe Hart (back problem) should be fit for PL opener at weekend

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Zabaleta to play every game initially then.

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    2. blue cheese
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      Thanks, PB! 🙂

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    3. blue cheese
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      New post

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  19. GoonerByron
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    Can't help but do a RMT after today's bandwagons.. 😛

    Federici - De Gea
    Cole - Koscielny - Cuellar - Gorkss - Demel
    Cazorla - Bale - Toure - Ramires - Puncheon
    Tevez - Torres - Graham

    Opinions??

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    1. The Shadow
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      With Cole and Torres I wouldn't bother with Ramires - one more body to transfer out for what, 4 pts in the DGW?

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    2. paddy2345
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      very similar mids and fowards to mine except ive kagawa and ireland over cazorla and puncheon

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  20. paddy2345
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    if kolarov doesnt start is he likelt to come on?

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    1. Corrigan
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      Yes

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  21. LMNO
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    After today my WHOLE team is up in the air. Back to the drawing board

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  22. Feed tha Sheep
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    Would appreciate people's opinions on a couple of decisions for gw1
    Who is better
    1.Yay a or silva?
    2.Mata or hazard?
    3.rio and Kompany or vidic and Lescott?
    4.wil Kagawa start?

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  23. Screaming Midget
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    I'm seeing Federici mentioned a bit, but are Reading really going to keep that many cleanies?

    I think they'll stay up, but not sure his potential saves will warrant ownership, as don't think he'll keep many clean sheets.

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    1. The Shadow
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      Many people hoping he's this year's Vorm. How much worse can he be than Ruddy and he's got a fair number of owners.

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    2. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      I'm not touching Readings defence or keeper with a barge pole. Plus after the DGW, people will most likely get rid of Federici and his price will plummet.

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      1. Johnny Postman
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        1st time in FPL so not sure how prices affect your budget - can you lose money on a player transfer? If everyone switches Torres to Rooney after GW1 and his price goes to 8 then you lose the 2 million if you transfer him out a week later?

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  24. Andy1
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    RMT please

    Begovic jaask
    Cole lescott hangeland Cuellar clyne
    Lampard bale yaya pienaar noble
    Tevez pog Torres/Rooney

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  25. hillbillypete
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    Fed DDG

    McCartney Fabio Hughes Terry Kolorov

    Ramires Nzog Pienaar Yaya Kacan

    Torres Tevez Rooney

    thoughts on that effort?

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    1. LMNO
      • 15 Years
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      I'm not so sure on Kolorov. City look a bit weaker at the back when playing 3-5-2 but will surely outscore most team and win. If they play 4-4-2 then I doubt Kolorov will play. Either way clean sheets are less likely imho

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    2. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
      • 13 Years
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      Kolarov>Rio Ferdy and your set.

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  26. cuterandy
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    Yaya or Nasri ?

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    1. Mick
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      Yaya is nailed on and nasri is going to have to contend with Silva and Balotelli for a place in the front 3

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  27. blue cheese
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    New post.

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  28. AriseSirGiggsy
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    Just back from The Lakes, missed the charity shield match. Sounds like a pretty good game - anyone give a quick overview of how it went down?

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  29. cahno
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    Jass, Fed

    A.Cole, Lescott (third spot rotation between Gunther, Clyne and Demel)

    Taarabt, Bale, Kagawa, Ramires (Noble)

    Djibril Cisse, Aguero, Rooney

    Any thoughts?

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