Dugout Discussion
19 August 2012 2555 comments
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We were treated to goals and clean sheets aplenty in yesterday’s season opener but, for most fantasy managers, today holds higher hopes for a points bonanza. The Dugout Discussion opens as both the champions of England and the champions of Europe take to the stage. The former host Premier League new boys Southampton at 4pm, which is straight after Chelsea’s trip to Wigan. The team news from the DW Stadium is in…

Wigan XI: Al-Habsi, Caldwell, Alcaraz, Ramis, Boyce, Figueroa, McArthur, McCarthy, Moses, Maloney, Di Santo.

Chelsea XI: Cech, Ivanovic, David Luiz, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Mikel, Hazard, Mata, Bertrand, Torres.

Kicking-off his side’s double Gameweek, Roberto Di Matteo is forced to leave out Ramires due to illness, giving Ryan Bertrand an out-of-position start. The rest is as expected, with David Luiz getting the nod ahead of Gary Cahill, and Eden Hazard handed a league debut.

As for the home side, Roberto Martinez can call upon the services of James McArthur after the Scottish midfielder recovered from a knee injury. Elsewhere, Jean Beausejour misses out with Antolin Alcaraz starting in defence. That will likely see Maynor Figueroa pushed up into midfield if Martinez sticks to his 3-4-3 formation.

The Dugout Discussion will remain open until the dust has settled from the game at the Etihad, and can be accessed right here.

Akers Richard or Akers, as he is known, has been regularly haunting this site since July 2008. He is young and foolish, take what he says with a pinch of salt. Follow them on Twitter

  1. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Should just pull the trigger on Torres > Rooney?Don't want to forget or mess about and he goes up to £12.1m

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No point in rushing, may as well do it tomorrow or whenever.

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    2. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Torres will be worth 8.4 by GW3...so yeah, transfer him out for Kone if you actually want some points

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Kone?

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      2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Goto top of page 23 and take some advice for once. Cheers.

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    3. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      just pull the trigger on Torres and put him out of his misery.

      and us out of ours.

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    4. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Having this dilemma too...

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  2. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who are the Players on the bench for Southampton?

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    1. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      #SFC subs - Gazzaniga, Lambert, S. Davis, Sharp, Richardson, Shaw, Seaborne.

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      1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I hope Lambert starts the next match

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  3. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    With that, cross the 50 mark for GW1. 37 GW's to go. 🙂

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Snap

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      fiddy?

      wat da fug iz dat shizzle bizzle?

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  4. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    keep mata or get hazard in? i have a feeling hazard might get rotated with oscar though.

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      That would be a stupid move.
      Chelsea are not playing gw3 waste of a transfer...

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  5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    This is for Mata/Ivanovic Owners:
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast/_/id/345826?cc=5739
    Note:
    1) How far forward Ivanovic's average position was for Chelsea
    2) How deep Mata's average position was for Chelsea.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Think Ivanovic was frozen on that since the goal.

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  6. ajsobers
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lineups for City/Southampton?

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  7. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Seriously unimpressed by Chelsea. After 6 minutes they were dominated, Lampard and Mikel were anonymous for the majority of the time. Hazard did well for his part in the goals but after that he was nothing special. Torres got no service, Mata was misplacing passes all over the shop.

    Nevertheless I own Hazard Cole and Torres and am satisfied.

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    1. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me haz Terry, Hazard and Torres. Need to check the damage Ivan has done to my leagues. I.m not too worried about Torres, still think he will come through.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        torres will never come through

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    2. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      worst analysis ever, you should apply for ITV punditry, you'll be perfect for them

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        What would you have said differently?

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          "Lampard" and "anonymous" are just plain wrong, he was everywhere today.

          "Torres got no service" No, he was just awful

          Whole thing is a load of tripe.

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Not anonymous, but did not play very well at all. Didn't close down the Wigan mids, and was consistently chasing the ball instead of being in the right position.

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          2. Adam
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Don't know what game you were watching but Torres was not awful.

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          3. My Name don't Mata
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Torres was the sharpest on the pitch. Zero supply or service.
            I don't have him, but i watched the game.
            Your comments are a whole load of tripe

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            1. Adam
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              +1

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              1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                +2

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                1. Fabio20
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  +3

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            2. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              +n

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              1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                This to the power of n. similar to the mug who lost 500

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          4. Infinite Sheldon
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Torres was unlucky not to get a goal apparently.

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      2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Nonsense. They got you FPL points so you think they played well I'm guessing.

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          and you had Torres (c) i guess and he got you none

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Erm no, I've Aguero captain. Torres didn't play very well but he got very little service too.

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            1. Infinite Sheldon
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              I'll believe Som.

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              1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                The majority seem to agree with me anyway.

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    3. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Was Torres playing OK?

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      1. DAV087
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Torres looked ok. Very unlucly to not get a goal. Poor service hurt him badly.

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      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Torres was very unlucky not to get at least a goal. It was cleared off the line.
        He worked hard for the team had a good game.

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        1. don parcheesi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          that's a little generous, but I agree that some of the hating on here is too harsh. He still doesn't look consistently threatening enough, not quite involved enough

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        2. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I agree - he played decent second half! He got very little service throughout...

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    4. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      they still won 2-0

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    5. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      There was no real motivation in the first half.

      Darn, how much I miss Drogs. He inspires the WHOLE team to go for goals until the very last minute.

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  8. ReinaMan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My Serie A clash with Frazek is currently

    Me 59 - 51 Frazek

    This could get tense

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      it could, but the fact no one cares, probably means it wont

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      1. ReinaMan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yes because you are extremely well liked around here

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          That is a good one. Players left?

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          1. ReinaMan
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I have: Federici, A.Cole, Zabaleta, Lampard, Torres(C), Tevez

            He has: Federici, Terry(C), Ivanovic, Mariappa, Yaya, Aguero, Torres

            I think he has the edge, sadly. And if Mariappa doesn't play, he gets Demel's 6 points off the bench

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      2. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Reading v Stoke is where it's at.

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      3. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I care. Don't speak for me you arrogant fool.

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      4. Fabio20
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Be nice Alonso

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You are the only high-scoring affair, others seem done and dusted with that kind of score. Don't they, little_wizard?

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      1. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Tevez and Hazard for me vs Aguero and Ivanovic. Plus about 50. I give up now. Congratulations.

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      2. ReinaMan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I fear his Terry (C) and Ivanovic could win it for him

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      3. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Also, I'm not even going to watch Aguero scoring as I am going to go into town, so that's some kind of moral victory. Somehow.

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  9. DAV087
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    city squad been released yet?

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  10. pLaz448
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    city line up?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Y Toure, Rodwell, Silva, Nasri, Tevez, Aguero

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      1. Kagawa-san-mia
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        rodwell

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      2. pLaz448
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanks mate

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  11. Setting the Toney
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Good to see Flopnando back to his best

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    1. KJ-
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going to have to disagree with whatever point you're trying to get across.

      Torres should have scored, and was unlucky not too. In fact, if he actually was "Flopnando" he would have gotten a penalty. Instead, he managed quite a good toe poke that got just cleared off the line.

      I'm not saying I think Chelsea as a whole played great (defense... bleh), but I'm confident Torres will score.

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      1. Fabio20
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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  12. Arsene30
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Clean sheet 🙂 Cech good considering Ramiries didnt play

    Will he play on wednesday

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  13. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Still think Torres will get something against Reading, but I'd probably be more bothered if I didn't have lamps and ivan.

    Congrats to whoever said they captained Ivan, were clearly onto something after the Walker/BAE DGW madness last year 😛

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me: Smug bastard alert...:)

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I took him and Petric out for Cole and Graham at the last minute. Captained Flopnando too. Along with the pathetic QPR result and no wifi or mobile signal in our caravan thats pretty much summed up this weekend for me.

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    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      thanks man, im smug.

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  14. kimoo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    maybe Transfer out torres or mata for game week 2

    my watch list till now : Lennon have bale , Kacaniklic have petric , dyer but i have michu

    wt can i dooooooo

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  15. FiveStar
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Need Man City to win 6-0 for a bet, what do you guys think is the odds of thaT?

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      4-1

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      1. FiveStar
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Bets paying 4.33 haha (was to be top of table come the end of GW1, Swansea and Fulham made it much harder than it should of been), comeon CITY!

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      40-1. 2.5%ish

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  16. B.P.R.D.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Just hope I'll get a chance to watch the United game and reflect on Rooney/RVP before a Torres drop. Is there much chance of that?

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  17. Jonah Takalua
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Selling Torres the very second the Man U match finishes

    Cannot wait

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same. Need to decide if I want Rooney or RVP

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he'll have dropped to 9.9m by then.

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  18. PB-THE-VET
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So . . . . . . . . How many bps will torres get . . . . * runs away

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  19. Arsene30
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    come on YAYA!

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  20. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Richard lambert not starting ?? strange !!

    any reason?

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  21. TheAcestarr
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Any Team GB fans here? Im thinking of making a Team GB league. (For UK peeps only)

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    1. PB-THE-VET
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Im irish . . . . . .so no

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      1. DOCLES
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Crap idea. That what the United Kingdom league is for

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        1. TheAcestarr
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Haters gonna hate. Don't like the idea? So be it!

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      2. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        you're Irish? 😯

        do the Scouts knows?

        i demand a recount......and my money back!

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  22. Mikegerton
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    how long is ramires out?

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      till about 7:30, hope he's not late for tea

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      how long is a piece of diarrhea?

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      1. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        haha

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      2. PB-THE-VET
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        😀

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    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      we don't know.

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  23. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Chelsea game bonus predictions ??

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ivan 3
      Lamps 2
      Hazard 1

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    2. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ivanovic a lock for the 3, Hazard and Lamps probably to share the 2 and 1

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    3. PB-THE-VET
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Torres 3
      Torres 2
      Torres 1

      . . . . . Wakes up

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    4. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Luiz may get 1

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  24. Setting the Toney
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    3. Figueroa
    2. Moses
    1. Caldwell

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  25. Arsene30
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I still think MAta will be good, he is tired after sooooooo much football!!!!!!

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    1. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He seems like one of those players that does a lot but doesn't get much fantasy points. Saying that I don't know what his total was last year.

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  26. exammy
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My friend who likes to just choose players from big teams was happy with the Chelsea CS.....
    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/805511/event-history/1/

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  27. Infinite Sheldon
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If Torres doesn't do that well, it doesn't matter too much because he has such high ownership. I have 2m in the bank for Rooney so I can easily get him out. The only people in trouble are the ones without an escape route.

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    1. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is that the flag of Sheldon's apartment?

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yes.

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        1. riot
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Surrendering to fun!

          😀

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    2. KJ-
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think he's going to drop significantly to be honest. Should have scored, and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't Wednesday.

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    3. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      high ownership = high transfer out rate.

      he could drop 0.2 by Tuesday

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Stop BSing. Michu hasn't even risen yet.

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  28. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Torres & Mata -> Michu & RVP(c).

    Worth the hit?

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    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I already did Mata to Michu. I'll wait till after GW2 to dump Torres.

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You do realize Torres/Mata have a home game in gw2 as well?

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        This. I'm in no rush to sell my Chels trio, unless Ramires is confirmed out.

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    3. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No No No save your transfers and points, no hits.

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    4. don parcheesi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yeah, I'd say so.

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  29. Mikegerton
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    /how long is ramires out?

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hopefully it's the flu and he misses Reading. I really need Demel CS points from my bench. My GW1 isn't going too well......at all.

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      1. Mikegerton
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I have michu on the bench so flu would be nice

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  30. SupaTune
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Got a feeling Zabaleta is gonna outscore Ivanovic for me

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