Dugout Discussion
19 August 2012 2555 comments
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We were treated to goals and clean sheets aplenty in yesterday’s season opener but, for most fantasy managers, today holds higher hopes for a points bonanza. The Dugout Discussion opens as both the champions of England and the champions of Europe take to the stage. The former host Premier League new boys Southampton at 4pm, which is straight after Chelsea’s trip to Wigan. The team news from the DW Stadium is in…

Wigan XI: Al-Habsi, Caldwell, Alcaraz, Ramis, Boyce, Figueroa, McArthur, McCarthy, Moses, Maloney, Di Santo.

Chelsea XI: Cech, Ivanovic, David Luiz, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Mikel, Hazard, Mata, Bertrand, Torres.

Kicking-off his side’s double Gameweek, Roberto Di Matteo is forced to leave out Ramires due to illness, giving Ryan Bertrand an out-of-position start. The rest is as expected, with David Luiz getting the nod ahead of Gary Cahill, and Eden Hazard handed a league debut.

As for the home side, Roberto Martinez can call upon the services of James McArthur after the Scottish midfielder recovered from a knee injury. Elsewhere, Jean Beausejour misses out with Antolin Alcaraz starting in defence. That will likely see Maynor Figueroa pushed up into midfield if Martinez sticks to his 3-4-3 formation.

The Dugout Discussion will remain open until the dust has settled from the game at the Etihad, and can be accessed right here.

Akers Richard or Akers, as he is known, has been regularly haunting this site since July 2008. He is young and foolish, take what he says with a pinch of salt. Follow them on Twitter

  1. Samwise the Brave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    what are the chances the cahill and marippa will start for chelsea and reading????

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      dunno, but Torres dropping 0.1 tonight could happen, i'd transfer out NOW before...go go go

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        It won't. michu hasn't risen yet and Torres still has a game to play.

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          its your gamble, but torres dropping is bound to happen before his second game with all the knees that are jerking.

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          1. Bad Seed
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            good advice mate. torres at 0.4% to drop at the moment.

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      2. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Stop giving stupid advice. Chelsea have another game to be played this GW. Torres could still come good.

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    2. Fabio20
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think either will.

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    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      slim

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    4. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I have 3.0 in the bank for RVP, I'll wait till 2moro night, I was planning on losing torres anyway no matter how good he did

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  2. realtin
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    C'mon Tipp!

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    1. PB-THE-VET
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Come on the cats 🙂

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  3. PogChamp
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My Captains curse continues. Cole, Ivanovic and Mata (c)

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  4. mazzarscar...the wholy trin…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    who are you ditching first torres or mata both are crap

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    1. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Torres first, anyway.

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    2. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      torres, he's dropping 0.1 tonight

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      1. halnone
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        don't be so sure he'll drop

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      2. Adam
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        No he's not.

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      3. Infinite Sheldon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        He won't drop, michu hasn't risen yet and Torres still has a game to play. According to those who watched the game, Torres played well. He won't fall.

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          he played well? well that is debatable, what isn't up for debate is his 2pts - people are upgrading to rooney or switching to Petric in their droves..

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          1. Infinite Sheldon
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Petric is playing United next week. Michu has more transfers in. If he doesn't rise, Torres won't. Are you just trolling? It seems as though you are just spurting out BS to provoke an argument.

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          2. Jordan.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            go away zabi you trolling moron

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          3. J0E
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I recommend looking at fiso or total fpl price changes and you'll see that Torres is no where near a drop.

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        2. flying scotsman
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I watched the game. Torres didn't do anything, barely had the ball twice in the whole game..

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          1. Baines on Toast...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            and yet he still had a shot cleared off the line. he will score goals this season, probably against reading.

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    3. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Mata is class. Stop kneejerking.

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      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        It's well annoying isn't it? People just need to calm the hell down.

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        1. Adam
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          + 1

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  5. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If I make changes to my team now will my rivals be able to see them or can they only view after the next deadline??

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    1. Perfect Curve
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      They can only be viewed after the next deadline, mate.

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      1. Voodoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers..

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    2. KipperRSA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      rivals only see it when the gameweek has closed ie 11.30 on Saturday

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    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      They will only be able to see Your bank and sumize from there

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      1. Samwise the Brave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        + the number of transfers you make and if you've played your wilcard

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  6. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    To those thinking of doing the Torres -> Rooney transfer today because they are worried of a price drop, don't do it. Torres needs around 60,000 NTO to drop in price which is very unlikely to happen.

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  7. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    skipper franky well done

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  8. halnone
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    i'm happy lampard got me some points. everyone was telling me to get Mata.

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i said franky was the play did nothing much but the pen was what mattered

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  9. joinho
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best replacement for Torres for GW 3? I already have Aguero.

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    1. paddy2345
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      rvp

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    2. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rvp... I agree with marks comment in an earlier burning question article... He was good home and away for arsenal, while Rooney is far better at home.

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      1. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I agree. Are you concerned about the number of games he'll get, though? Rooney nailed to play pretty much every week. With RVP, I'm not so sure. Still think I'll be doing Torres to RVP.

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        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I think he and Rooney are first choices.. But anyone from the top sides is prone to rotation when fixtures stack up (Xmas) and champs league games.

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          1. Bad Seed
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Indeed. Rooney perhaps a little less prone to rotation though. The clincher for me is that RVP will be playing higher up the pitch, and I think he'll get more goals. I expect to be heading into next week with RVP(c) and I can't wait because no one else in my mini league is in a position to do so without a hit.

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    3. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney, and why not for GW2? Decent fixtures.

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    4. Adam
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I've gone for Rooney. Can't afford RVP.

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  10. Michaelangelo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    i hope Torres gets a red card vs Reading
    🙂

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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    2. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2 tap ins. Reading will be easier opponents. Hopefully.

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    3. halnone
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I hope you get last fucling place in the world.

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      1. riot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Fucling is a silly word. You can do better.

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        1. ReinaMan
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          ℱucking

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  11. Perfect Curve
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Glad that two of my pre-season punts have come through: Michu and Ivanovic.

    Wish N'Zogbia, Noble, Green and Torres had done a bit more!

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  12. Corrigan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What do we think of Lampard beyond the blank? I know he sometimes ghosts into the box, but I think the main source of his points will be pens...

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      season keeper

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I was reassured that he got a full game while Hazard and Mata were both replaced. He might just stay in my team.

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    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Doesn't seem to be able to play the position that he has now. Ventures forward far too much, can't tackle too well and I think he will soon be phased out of the team. Nevertheless, I still think he will rack up quite a few points but there will be better options at 9.0.

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        + 1

        i have him as skipper for DGW but have already sold him for GW2 for cazorla

        franky will be phased out soon the time to have him was now

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    4. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Likely to be good value at 9m and I think he'll get plenty of normal goals and assists too. He loves going off on those forwards runs.

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    5. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He was getting forward a lot. Plus playing deeper he's less prone to rotation than the masses of attacking midfielders.

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    6. LÖrKingMuch
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Gonna sit tight with Hazard for now myself.

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    7. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm keeping for GW2 as Newcastle have to go abroad midweek to play in the Europa League and then I'm getting rid.

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    8. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Im tempted to keep, he's nailed on for 90% of the season and is a steal at 9.0 considering the prices he has been previously

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  13. Sigga -Cardiff City-
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    starting line ups fro Man C
    and southie

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      google broken?

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      1. Fabio20
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        what's your problem?

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        1. Adam
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          +1 million

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        2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          He's just a little itch on this site that likes to be scratched. Don't waste your time.

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        3. MrJefferson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          his team is terrible, thats my guess!

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    2. ajsobers
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Silva, Rodwell, Toure, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez. Subs: Pantilimon, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, Savic, De Jong, Balotelli.

      Southampton: Kelvin Davis, Clyne, Fonte, Hooiveld, Fox, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Puncheon, Rodriguez, Do Prado. Subs: Gazzaniga, Lambert, Steven Davis, Sharp, Richardson, Shaw, Seaborne.

      Referee: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire)

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      1. Sigga -Cardiff City-
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thankyou
        and
        DLL18
        that is a massive help sorry for my naivety

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    3. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Silva, Rodwell, Toure, Nasri, Aguero, Tevez. Subs: Pantilimon, Milner, Dzeko, Kolarov, Savic, De Jong, Balotelli.

      Southampton: Kelvin Davis, Clyne, Fonte, Hooiveld, Fox, Ward-Prowse, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Puncheon, Rodriguez, Do Prado. Subs: Gazzaniga, Lambert, Steven Davis, Sharp, Richardson, Shaw, Seaborne.

      Referee: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire)

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  14. drinkup245
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    mata to michu

    or podolski to rvp/rooney

    ?

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Neither

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  15. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Kaka to United trending in Twitter

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    1. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      *on

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Spelling mistake.

      Kaca!

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    3. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Really can't see that happening.

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    4. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      no thanks

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  16. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    afternoon guys, missed the match.........tho reading the posts im guessing torres didnt play well

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He just wasn't in the game that much. Offside quite a few times, had a shot blocked off the line though.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        cheers....oh well no poin knee jerkin after 1 match......ill hold tight for the mo

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  17. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    keep bent or sell him

    dont want to miss the baot and keep him too long

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  18. joinho
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is 3 goals, 2 assists, and a clean-sheet between Lescott, Yaya Toure, & Aguero too much to ask?

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same trio bro, lets do this!

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    2. don parcheesi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      make that Zab, Nasri & Tevez and you've got my support

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  19. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Alreet lads

    Can somebody please check my link to make sure that the correct team is linked!! See, it is me!! If there was still any doubt, you just need to see marveaux sat in my team with a nice fat zero!!

    Did we ever get to the bottom of what was going on with that guy who was impersonating me (and others apparently)? I don't like the idea that he was using my username to try and con people's email addresses. Do I need to email the scouts, or has it all been sorted?

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    1. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      All good CM.

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      1. riot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Linkwise, I mean. I have no clue about an imposter 🙂

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    2. KipperRSA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Links to Michael Tame

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    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It's fine now mate. Welcome back.

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Michael Tame, 28 points?

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      1. TheAcestarr
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Michael are you Chinese or English why are you in this Chinese league?

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        1. China Mag
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I'm a englishman (geordie) living in china for the last 9 years!

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          1. TheAcestarr
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Really? Newcastle fan!!! Im from and live in Birmingham!!! Aston Villa 4ever!! Join my Team GB league! Cheers mate!

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            1. TheAcestarr
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              No off to Geordies but I find them really rough guys 😛

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    5. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yep. That's the one. Obviously this wasn't an elaborate ploy to show off my score, seeing as its pretty bad up to now!!

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      1. TheAcestarr
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Im confused by your nationality, you joined this "Chinese challenge league"- so what nationality are you?

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        1. TheAcestarr
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          If you're English pls join my Team GB league!

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          1. TheAcestarr
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            91314-416951 is the code (For people who are British only~ Go team GB! £Ourgreatestteam)

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  20. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Come on Tevez and Aguero, lets have a 4-0, 2 goals apiece, Zab assist. 🙂

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  21. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I know it's early days to judge a young player, but Oscar looked class when he was on. He could very well make the difference between a title winner/runner-up place and 3rd/4th.

    Would love for him to get more gametime. #LampsOut

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    1. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bertland out to fit in oscar

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lamps out in the Che team? You are kidding me correct?

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Nope, he was out of sorts today and vs City. I'm taking an unbiased view on this.

        Ramires - Mikel
        Mata - Oscar - Hazard
        Torres

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          He knows how to orchestrate attacks. You cannot trade that experience for anything.

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          1. Tekkers
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Mikel was poor today too. With so many new faces, a bit of experience with Lamps would do them well. I'm keeping him, at least for a while anyway.

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        2. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          maybe in a month or so

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    3. BONZ
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No title to Chelsea as Wigan proved they can be got at still - Ivan cant cope against tricky winger & lack of work rate at time from Hazard & Mata off the ball......plus Torres still looked poor!

      IMO Chelsea need still need a right back & striker to push for Title.

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  22. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Link to the Total FPL development site? Mine doesnt seem to work.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

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  23. Torres' Copper Touch
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is there a website where you can see anticipated price rises and falls? Total FPL used to do it but their website doesn't seem to be fully updated at th moment

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  24. Fabio20
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Honestly not sure what game some people were watching... Torres was not as bad as some people are a making out.

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    1. Adam
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Completely agreed. Set up 2 or 3 chances for others and nearly scored himself. And should've won a penalty when he was barged over in the box.

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    2. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I guess if he didn't score, people assume he played badly.

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    3. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      mis-controls and lack of movement - yeah he was pretty bad

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Billy no mates. Away and play on the motorway.

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    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It's just the haters.

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    5. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He wasn't as good as some make it out either. As usual the truths lies somewhere in between. Pretty average, as were Chelsea in general. Not very impressed.

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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    6. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      stick with torres and mata. they'll come good for next 2 games. mata always scored at home anyways.

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    7. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He didn't get any decent service,

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  25. mufc802
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Southampton for a shock win today.

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  26. lfcserg
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    The total of my players score is 31, yet it says its 35. It must have already included the starting scores of Aguero (C), Silva and Lescott (2,1,1)

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    1. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      nope. they just gave you 4 points so you'll stop complaining...

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    2. the Penman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It does, when the lineups are announced officially.

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  27. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I should have entered Mrs China Mag into all of these leagues, rather than my team!! Triple chelsea defence, lennon, kac, and dyer off the bench if kolarov doesn't come on!!

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  28. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    tevez and zab to score while aguero does squat.

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    1. Xabi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      good luck with that, Tevez and Aguero to go mental now

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    2. riot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nah...well, PLEASE GO NO!

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    3. Adam
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yes please!

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    4. lfcserg
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No chance, Aguero for a brace today and I'll take the 20 points as I have him captain + double his bonuses.

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  29. riot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    45 goals in last 59 PL starts is an amazing record for Tevez.

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  30. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    (c) Bale (WBA) or Rooney (FUL) next week?

    Also play Clyne(WIG) or Zabaleta(liv)?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney and Zabaleta.

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