The Pre-Match Preamble - Gameweek 38 Preamble
15 September 2012 1295 comments
Mark Mark
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A Robin Van Persie injury scare is like no other. I’m struggling to think of another event that can both create the Twitter storm and panic within the Fantasy Football community on a similar level. It can send shockwaves that remind us, and others around us, just how seriously we take our task.

Tuesday’s gradual news, or non-news, drip of Van Persie’s withdrawal at half-time in the Netherlands’ win over Hungary was something to behold. Twitter was awash with football fans, each with their own very different agenda, conspiring to generate a frenzy of mis-information which even included images of the stricken striker being stretchered off in an orange shirt when the Dutch were actually playing in change colours.

From a Fantasy Manager’s perspective, the garbled noise being produced by the social networks was a head-spinning experience. The 140-character kerfuffle was then inevitably followed swiftly by reports that Van Persie was an immediate doubt for the weekend clash with Wigan. As it turned out, this was not, and perhaps never was the case.

Doubtless a hasty report of Van Persie being a doubt for a weekend home clash has little impact on the lives of our football media. They can go home to their better halves and box sets and leave us Fantasy managers fretting. For us such a story can be the catalyst for change, for a full strategy rethink. It has consequences. It certainly has impact.

Throughout the last few days we remained frosty on the situation here on the site – observing that most news sources were more cautious than the likes of the Daily Mail on an “injury” that had already been dismissed by Dutch coach Louis Van Gaal. We refused to consider Van Persie’s ā€œincidentā€ as anything more than a knock. The Fantasy Premier League did not apply their flag and, as a result, Van Persie’s Fantasy owners were sparred the agony of potentially selling on their star asset, only to find he was declared fit by Friday lunchtime.

He is fit. Sir Alex said so, but now we must wait to see what Ferguson does with his shuffling pack ahead of United’s Champions League tie with Galatasaray on Wednesday. Things will be nervy until we get the teamsheet.

While no one single source amongst this morning’s papers dare suggest that Van Persie won’t start against the Latics, some give Alex Buttner his debut at left-back with Patrice Evra making way. The Independent – probably our favoured Saturday morning source, goes with this along with both Shinji Kagawa and Danny Welbeck in their United lineup.

The press as a whole appear to be split on David De Gea’s chances of a recall. The Independent, The Guardian and the Daily Mail all backing a return for the Spaniard, while our other four papers stick with Anders Lindegaard. For the record, we’re opting for De Gea.

Intriguingly, the Mail, the Telegraph and the Sun have dropped Ryan Giggs into the mix in their lineups – both omitting Kagawa in the process. We’re also seeing ad hoc appearances for Anderson amongst the media and, at one point yesterday, the Guardian dropped Michael Carrick back into defence – perhaps forgetting that both Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans are fit.

We forgive them. It’s been corrected since and it’s clear that Ferguson and United have us all in a tizzy. Not for the first time.

Elsewhere, there are perhaps few surprises. Again, using the Independent as my most reliable point of reference, we’re seeing debuts for Villa’s Joe Bennett and Christian Benteke, Leon Osman is coming in for the injured Darron Gibson, Adam Johnson is fit enough for the Sunderland lineup, Clint Dempsey starts for Spurs at the expense of poor old Gylfi Sigurdsson and Julio Cesar starts in nets for QPR.

All very viable and worthy decisions. Nobody can really be sure of course – these are best guesses or at least educated guesses like our own team news predictions. From my perspective it’s always fascinating cutting through the press noise, now compounded by Twitter’s streaming contribution. There’s no disputing that we have so much more information around us than when I started this thing five years ago. The job that myself and the team carry out on a Friday is a frantic one, sifting sources, weighing up credibility and reliability, listening in and taking managers on their word. That’s all we can really do.

Just how reliable can that be is difficult to say. There are always the odd surprise and, I’m almost convinced that kidology plays a part in some quarters. Let’s just hope it’s not been at play in the Old Trafford camp.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Bielsa’s bucket
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    After 2 weeks of meticulous wildcard planning, I got back at about 5am this morning from what was a fairly heavy night, and finalised my transfers. Wake up today to find Morrison had worked his way into my team, is this a grievous drunken error?

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    1. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Could work well. Serious differential

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        +1

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      2. Bielsa’s bucket
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Here's hoping this drunken fumble is more memorable than last nights šŸ˜‰

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    2. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      He was part of my meticulous planning. Great pick (hopefully)

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      He is part of my wildcard. Good luck

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    4. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers lads, appreciate the vote of confidence, is much needed due to my pounding headache.

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  2. Egg noodle
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Call me mad but my next two transfers in the coming 2 gameweeks are

    De Gea > Foster
    and then
    Federici > Jaaskelainen

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  3. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    I considered transferring out Jarvis this week, but was talked out of it
    Posdibly would have switched to Pilkington though, so not too unhappy.......yet!

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  4. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    My team looks ridiculous for gw5...Looks like a definite 4pt hit coming up.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      mine doesn't look great either, but planning to save atm I think, only move I might consider is Hangeland to Demel (or Torres to Lambert)

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    2. FORCA INTER
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      my looks very solid,i am going to save FT

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  5. tangtastic
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Nothing sexier than the sight of 2 free transfers šŸ˜Ž

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    1. Willis.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      2 free trannies? Nice....

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  6. Keane There Dunne That
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Should I wildcard or 28 point hit

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    1. Egg noodle
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      28 point hit sounds reasonable to me.

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        13 years, 3 months ago

        lol

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      2. Adam
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        +1

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      *48pts hit

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    3. Pinatta
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I would do a 36 point hit and then wildcard just for the fun of it

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      1. ColeHole
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I was upto an 86 point hit before I activated my wildcard at 10 am šŸ™‚

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    4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I was drinking something when I read this and nearly spat it out

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    5. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      28 point hit.

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    6. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      28 points is okay - but you should really consider wildcarding if it's 29.

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    7. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      i would

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    8. Champy
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Someone did something like that last year and it paid of.

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    9. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Your silly grav face says it all about that question.

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  7. Nibbsy
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Has McCartney lost his place then?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I'd say it's more sticking with the team that kept a clean sheet last time out. He's the only natural left back they have...I think

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Ok cheers. Got him in my line up for next week so hopefully he'll be back.

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  8. Home Run Baker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Interesting use of the word "differential" on the board today - meaning "cr@ppy player who will score less than my h2h opponent".

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      Hindsight is 20/20.

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      such as?

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      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Bale šŸ˜†

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          I was touting the Ox before, somewhat tongue in cheek, as a differential to Cazorla.

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    3. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Differentials are gambles anyway.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        But the players that are being touted are high risk, low reward players which isnt gambling its just wasting money.

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  9. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Jarvis on bench, Cole up front, could be very tough for the Hammers!

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      good luck in h2h today

      you will need it šŸ˜‰

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        You also, I will need it, like your side! šŸ˜‰

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  10. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Mrs is back and is demanding to be taken out for lunch....good luck all and I'll catch you later.

    Peace out šŸ™‚

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Later

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    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Enjoy!

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    3. Pennywise
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Ridiculous, you should slap her into shape and exert your male dominance in the household!

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  11. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone placing any of the FFS Paddy Power bets?

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/09/15/the-fantasy-flutter-with-paddy-power-gameweek-4/

    Combing through them now, Caz and Snod look good.

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  12. Vpan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    last minute (vc) change from Tevez to Santi. Hope it won't needed though with RVP (c)...

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    1. Bobbydhino - āš’ Saint Slav…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I heard a report RVP to start on bench. No I'm not kidding that I heard it.

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  13. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Kagawa > Ben Arfa.

    Done, bring on GW6.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Confirmed already?

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Suddenly: Barfa injury...

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Barfa > Nolan (-4)

        Done.

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    3. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      13 years, 3 months ago

      You not playing GW5 then? šŸ˜‰

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  14. The Red Viper
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Everyone, absolutely everyone in my mini league has captained Hazard! Have him but captained RVP, feeling nervous about it now...

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    1. gera.bostock
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      don't be nervous

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Standard disclaimer that we don't know anything, but sounds awfully like casual kneejerk

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I captained Hazard, hes playing QPR!!!!!!

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          he's my vc

          I captained RvP, he's at home to Wigan

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        2. Bobbydhino - āš’ Saint Slav…
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          I did the same. vc went to Michu.

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        3. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Sorry Gink! Remember QPR v Chelsea last year? I was toying with Haz (VC) but went with Michu (VC) because of that.

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    3. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      You should be cock-a-fooking-hoop with that my friend šŸ˜‰

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    4. Hubert
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      For the last 4 games ManU V Wigan the aggregate is ManU 14 - Wigan 0 šŸ˜€

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      1. Hubert
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Sorry, 13-0

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  15. Crouch Potato!
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Pumas 19-6 ahead of the Aussies!

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Awesome init?!

      I'm glued šŸ™‚

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      How much time left?

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        20mins.

        Oz, battering the line currently.

        Oh try, pat McCabe

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Crickey, keep me filled in. I would love it, Love it, if the Pumas won

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            13-19 now Ryan.

            Thier spilling a fair bit of ball the Roos.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Will be a tight finish till the end I'd imagine.

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              1. Evs
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Yep. No mugs the argies.

                I'll keep you posted.

                15 on clock....

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  16. rohan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Snodgrass, do your thing

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Would be the perfect start!

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    2. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      The levels of optimism on this website always astound me.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        I've watched the guy closely, nearer realism than optimism.

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  17. Houdini
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Good start for me, no Pilkington. šŸ™„

      Was there even any hint he wasn't going to start?

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Could be an injury as he's not on the bench

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        1. Houdini
            13 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah that's one silver lining at least(as long as it's not serious). Fabio comes in for me though, not holding out much hope of a clean sheet for him.

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          • Scroobius Mac
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            Could also be compassionate leave if somebody has died close to him or his missus has given birth.

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            1. isacki: full casual
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Not sure what to make of this...

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              1. Scroobius Mac
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Just a possibility if a player isn't announced as injured and isn't on the subs.

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        2. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          You fell for the classic FFS article...

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          1. Houdini
              13 years, 3 months ago

              This would be true if I had gotten him in based on the article. šŸ˜‰

              The curse of the FFS article more like.

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        3. ā˜…FC Borecelonaā˜…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Demented Flamingo left Hazard and Ivanovic on the bench 😮 šŸ˜€
          http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/32772/event-history/4/

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          1. Houdini
              13 years, 3 months ago

              The link just takes you to the main page, who is demented flamingo? I fancy a draw in that game 1-1.

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            • Thick Of It
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Obviously have not checked out their team for a while

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            • Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Very poor. Hasn't looked at his team since GW3 it seems. Lucky you sir.

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            • JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              *facepalm*

              I'd have played Ivanovic and Hazard over Clichy and Dyer any day

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Looks as though he hasn't touched his team.

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            • Mull
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              QPR 1-0 win coming up.

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              1. Bendy Busdriver
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                hazzard yellow for diving

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            • Get up ya bum
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Bahahaha he's clearly missed the deadline. Chelsea had a blank gw3.

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            • isacki: full casual
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Oh my word...

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          2. Villan14
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            Will Bertrand keep his place in Chelsea team for future? he's so checp and as a midfielder in theTelegraph game! hes also only 4.5 in FPL!

            also will ivanovic keep his place...didnt they buy another defender recently?

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          3. Stevee10001
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            My team for next GW looks ridiculous i would have 10 home players with rvp away and 2 solid defenders on the bench now thats a headache if i ever saw one!

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Yeah, i'm going to hav a few homies on the bench.

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          4. thattreblefeeling
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            First punt of the season I captained Caz over rvp tevez and haz aaaaaaahhh come on Santi

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              I considered it but went with RVP, Santi vice. I do have a habit of picking vice captains that outscore my captains.

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          5. Mak_Gold
              13 years, 3 months ago

              For next week:

              1) Start Zab or Clyne?

              2) Captain Tevez (ARS), RVP (liv) or Hazard (STK)?

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              1. Simon69
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                G'way with your next week.

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            • Syd.
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Michael Owens head is so far up his own arse...

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              1. ColeHole
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                ...that he's remereged in some osrt of bizarro anus world whewre he plays for Stoke City?

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            • Just Ruud
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              anyone took a punt on Lamps? with Hazard winning a penalty a game it must have been tempting

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              1. Evs
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                • 16 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Weve had this conversation šŸ˜‰

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                1. Just Ruud
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 3 months ago

                  We did, that was pre deadline šŸ˜‰

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                  1. Evs
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                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 3 months ago

                    I still stand by my comments šŸ™‚

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                    1. Just Ruud
                      • 15 Years
                      13 years, 3 months ago

                      Good man, and good luck too.

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            • Title20
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Does anyone know a good iPhone app to listen to the PL games?

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            • In Like Flynn.
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              • 15 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              @ GreenDreams11

              Greer or Saltor Greer captain and gets odd goal Saltor well see last night. šŸ™‚

              Sorry it took a while. My system crashed and it's taken 25 mins to get everything back.

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            • Somalion
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Apparently I have captained Michu...Lets go ya wee beauty.

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              1. Mílanista
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Hehe, not the worst drunken decision.

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                1. Somalion
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 3 months ago

                  Hopefully it works out šŸ˜€

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            • Doctor X
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Who's got the edge here lads?

              A) Jelavic, Morrison, Cazorla, Hughes, Ruddy
              B) Graham, Ben Arfa, Kagawa, Rangel, Jaaskelainen

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              1. Bielsa’s bucket
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Im going to say A by a pinch

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              2. Syd.
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 3 months ago

                Tough one to call...

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            • r0nh
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              Soon the breaking news of RVP being rested will be world wide.

              Then I feel that all of you will look to me as a natural born leader.

              Prepare to clean my boots inferior people.

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