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6 October 2012 3450 comments
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We have our first kick-off of the weekend and we have a beauty to getting things rolling. Fantasy managers are treated to watching their Man City assets dance around Martin O’Neill’s fortifications for 90 minutes in what could either be a 3-3 thriller to mirror last season’s match, or be an inevitable battle of attrition as City struggle to blow Sunderland’s house down. Either way, we’ll be glued to it and savouring every minute as we stare into the precipice of an international break.

As highlighted in Andy’s overnight Catch-Up article Roberto Mancini has stuck true to his word and made more than a few notable changes to his City outfit from Wednesday’s game playing host to Dortmund.

An entire strike-force switch sees both Sergio Aguero and Edin Dzeko rested to the bench as Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli start in their place. Micah Richards has finally recovered from injury to start at centre-back alongside Joleon Lescott with captain Vincent Kompany and Matija Nastasic absent from the squad entirely – calf and ankle injuries are to blame respectively. To round out the changes Aleksandr Kolarov, Gareth Barry and James Milner also come in for Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and the injured Javi Garcia.

Martin O’Neill has been a lot calmer on the rotation front by welcoming Carlos Cuellar back from injury and into his starting XI as Sunderland’s only change from last weekend. The teams in full are…

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Lescott, Kolarov, Milner, Barry, Y. Toure, Silva, Balotelli, Tevez
Man City Subs: Pantilimon, Clichy, K.Toure, Rodwell, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko

Sunderland XI: Mignolet, Gardner, Cuellar, O’Shea , Rose, Colback, Larsson, Johnson, McClean, Sessegnon, Fletcher.
Sunderland Subs: Campbell, Kilgallon, Vaughan, Meyler, Bramble, Saha, Westwood.

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  1. Rowley Birkin
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Cazorla brace would be nice. Even a brace of assists 🙂

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    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yeh big time

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Yes please. Seems unlikely away at West Ham though. Although i've had a feeling about Giroud all week.

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  2. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Stirling Albion will be having a party.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      They are my "Scottish League" team. Have been since the early 80s. Liked the badge in Panini.

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  3. Coldplay
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Wow, this is turning out to be a good GW for me shockingly. Got attacking returns from every player who played except Cech.

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    1. rohan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Shame about Di Santo on the bench

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  4. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    From someone owning no CHE players, it makes sense to get some coverage but their fixtures are so bad I'm thinking again. Best to remain Chelsea-less?

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    1. Smakies
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      NO mata is in great form

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      1. Rafabio
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Since you missed out on Norwich at home, I'd go with Mata who seems fixture-proof on current form.

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    2. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      If you didn't want any today - at home to that rabble - you'll never want any.

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  5. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    RMWCT please...

    Begovic Mannone
    Baines Ivanovic Hughes Clyne Demel
    Hazard Pienaar Gervinho Bale Kaca
    Ba Lambert RVP

    0.5m in the bank

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  6. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    50 points so far with Bale(c) and RVP to come;)

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  7. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    shall i get rid of Morisson or Michu?

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      michu before the city game i will hold him until then...

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    2. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      After next week Michu

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    3. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Both for a hit

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        actually michu after this week, or Morisson now- but he could be kept long term.

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    4. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      After they scored 16 points + baps to come between them?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        i have 2ft and i need to use at least 1

        and i want get gervinho

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      2. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Sometimes you have got to take the points and run..

        Forca - Michu first, neither this week.

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        1. Simon69
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          It's hardly Michu's first goal of the season + at home to not exactly the strongest side in the league in GW 8

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            That's why I said neither this week...

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            1. Simon69
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              I missed that. Did I see right that Gervinho is playing upfront with Giroud?

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  8. Smakies
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    WHO has the biggest score here ?

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    1. rohan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      52 With RVP (c) Nolan Ba and Jaask to go..

      Lucky week

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    2. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      some guy with 60 from 8

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      1. Smakies
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        DAMM!

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      2. Nopli
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        He had 44(-8) from 8. He probably counted the bonus points as well. 🙂

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      3. MARVELLUS
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Me 🙂

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        1. MARVELLUS
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Whoops, 59, but was me who posted earlier.

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    3. mutatedllama
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      My one day wonders team 68 from 10 so far so might be up there

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        1. Smakies
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          -36 though !

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        2. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Not bad 🙂 pity you didn't have Kompany -> Kolarov haha

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        3. Podge
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Why do people do this ?

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          1. Rafabio
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            For fun?

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  9. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    27 (-4) with Ba RVP Suarez (C) Jassk Gibbs and Barfa to come.

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  10. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    west ham 1-0 arsenal (demel) would suit me nicely 😉

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    1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      A 0-0 would suit me perfectly 🙂 Jassk and Gibbs

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  11. Hotrod
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Happy enough with today, Lambert captain tomorrow will make or break my GW

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  12. Christina.
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks Swans for fecking up my accumulator bet.

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Monitoring this game closely. Definitely getting Arsenal attacking cover for Norwich away.

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      +1

      Get an attacker who plays Norwich and QPR. Sit back and enjoy! #FPLMantra

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      1. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        i personally think southampton are worse than qpr

        defensively

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Just add them to the list. They're all shite.

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  14. XVIVX
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    has arsenal lineup been posted?

    Mannone, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Gervinho, Giroud, Podolski

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Good to see Kos has been dropped

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  15. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Stirling Albion 1-0 Rangers

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    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Aww

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    2. scotsman23
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      ha i just cant get enough

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  16. div
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    How did Tevez play today?

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    1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Pretty good. Not as good as Aguero though.

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    2. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      he did well, deserved more

      probably won't get any baps, mind you

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      1. Rafabio
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        This sums it up nicely. Should've had more points than the assist from FK.

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          he wouldn't have even got that assist in previous seasons

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Not bad at all. I am convinced Aguero and Tevez are the first choice partnership. I am keeping. Unless, Giroud convinces me otherwise 😉

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      1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        In other words you're 100% keeping 🙂

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    4. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Bulldog.

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    5. Smakies
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Should have had a goal, played well, but silva was the main man

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  17. wagner is king
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone who watched the chelsea game want to guess were bonuses are going?

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ivan 3, Hazard 2, don't care 1.

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Iva 3, Torres 2, Mata/Haz 1

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Ivan 3 Torres 2 Hazard 1

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  18. div
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Is it worth doing Tevez >

    A. Gervinho
    B. Ba
    C. Suarez

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    1. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      tevez -> gervinho if you can

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Hahaha Im guessing you are joking right?

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    2. Mak_Gold
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Good luck with A.

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    3. tristanabc
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Cesar Green
      Demel Clyne Baines Rangel Hughes
      Michu HBA Maloney Gervinho Hazard
      RVP Aguero Graham

      2 free transfers, taking out Hazard and Graham.
      Which two should I put in?

      A) Tevez and Nolan
      B) Ba and Nolan
      C) Fletcher and Yaya
      D) Suarez and Nolan

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    4. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Giroud, go on, score 2.

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        .. points.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          🙂

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        2. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Nicely done NN. Giroud is going to make me a legend around these parts. 😉

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          1. blue cheese
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago



            I'm with you. Top goalscorer in the French League can't be that bad!

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        3. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          That was a joke btw. I'd like to see him score.

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      2. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I think he will score. I have done for the past week, so i'm not surprised he's started. It's inevitable.

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    5. Over Midwicket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Going to WC from:

      Foster, Federici
      Demel, Baines, Hangeland, Cuellar, Saylor
      Bale, Pienaar, Fellaini, Dyer, Yaya
      Tevez, Fletcher, Ba

      to

      Foster, Bego
      Demel, Baines, Ivanovic, Rafael, Cuellar
      Bale, Pienaar, Forehead, Morrison, Mata
      Jelly, Ba, Fletch

      YAY or Nay? I'm thinking Yay, mini leagues are won before Christmas, and I've got so many injuries, dead players etc.

      Thanks to all who respond.

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      1. Podge
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Where is RVP ? Not a team without him.

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        1. Simon69
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I've seen plenty.

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        2. Over Midwicket
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Not sure who to downgrade to get RVP in..

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    6. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Just pondering the merits of leaving the Everton midfield alone and just go with Baines and possibly Jelavic.

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      1. rohan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Thats what I have done for the past 2 weeks

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      2. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        think it's worth it...baines huge bonus amidst so many defences struggling and jelavic more of a captain option than the mids.

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    7. Live4pool
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      who would you get rid of if you have to chose one of Pienaar and Michu

      thanks!!

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Neither, Pienaar has been really consistent and Michu is a massive goal threat and can score against anyone.

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      2. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Well that would depend on your other player to be honest. I'd say Everton coverage is more of a necessity.

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      3. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Michu... sold him for Pienaar a week or 2 ago 🙂

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    8. My name is an echo
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      anyone watch the chelsea game - how was Hazard?

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    9. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      ML rival did Michu -->Gerv. Come Gerv, do my proud and get 1pt.

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    10. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Bad day. I really thought it was going to get worse with Fellaini or Michu being sent off but fortunately that didn't happen. Second half was slightly better actually, at least Michu scored.

      Should at least stop his price dropping like a stone during the 2 week break!

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Really dont get why Michu seems to be the focus of FF. His returns are fine for the cash

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        1. Caine & Co.
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          yep, more than fine. people are just shocked he's not scored every game since gw4. no really it's the bad fixtures and disbelief in swansea team.

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          1. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            What bad fixtures? His fixtures are great.

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    11. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      What do you think the BP's will be in the Everton game?

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      1. My name is an echo
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        3 for baines anyway

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        1. fitzy
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I'd argue against that. Sure he did get a goal as a defender and baines is a bp magnet but imo the yellow would be make him get 2.

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        2. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I don't think so. A penalty isn't worth as much PPI as a goal from open play. Shot off target too.

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        3. Locarno
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          ??? Yellow card and two conceded? No chance.

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      2. rohan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Baines 3 Di Santo 2 Jelavic 1

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        1. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Well Kone got a goal and assist so..

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    12. john25
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      PLEASE HELP!

      Do you guys think Graham's price will drop tonight???

      Really need to know because if he is then I'm transferring him out right away!

      Thanks! 🙂

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I'd sell him right now even if his price is rising!

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          But, no - not falling tonight. 23% atm.

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    13. Reed_Rothchild
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I'll tell ya. This site. First Mata over Hazard the beginning of the season. Then Holy Trinity. Then Ivanovic will be a rotation risk due the new signee, which prompted many to get rid for Baines. And now Cazorla is playing like Modric but not getting fantasy points and Gervinho is hogging the points. C'mon, Mark. I'm better off figuring it out on my own.

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I agree with everything you've said.

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        1. Locarno
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          That's because you're an idiot.

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          1. Lucky_2010
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            lol, most probably those played with brain/thinking and rush in decision making, FFS is good guide imo but not necessary must follow exactly !!!

            cheers.

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            1. Lucky_2010
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              "without"

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      2. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Then do that.

        None of the scouts boast of being experts - their rankings confirm that.

        They just bring us a shedload of information. Don't blame them if you've used it incorrectly and chosen the wrong player.

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Well said, although the scouts always finish with decent ranks.

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          1. Locarno
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Some do, unless you have a more generous view of what is a decent rank.

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              I thought they get above 5k generally.

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              1. Locarno
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                Ah, fair enough. That's quality. I must have looked at the wrong links last season. It wasn't a dig - it's just that this RR idiot seems to want this site to be run by the current World Nos 1 through 6.

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      3. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        OK. Bye then.

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      4. Caine & Co.
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        are you dumb

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      5. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Bye bye. 😀

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      6. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I think you seriously have your wires crossed. Listening to random opinions in the comment section, is not Mark's fault, it's yours.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Who had Mata in the scout picks? Who had an article about the holy trinity?

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          1. PMC3
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Look at the scout picks this week:

            Baines- scored
            Ivanovic - scored + assist
            hazard - scored
            michu- scored
            tevez - assist

            With RVP, Suarez, Bale, Ramirez and Johnson to come.

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            1. Lucky_2010
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              decent selection i would say ....... playing this game need patient and NOT just followed/to transfer IN 1 GW high scoring players !!!

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          2. Locarno
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            What? They put a world-class World Cup winner playing for a good team at home against a crap team in the Scout picks???

            Hang the bastards.

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          3. Declan-
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            It's guesswork. Your choice to follow it

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            1. seattlechelsea
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              The Scout rocks! From an American who has yet to visit England but loves the Prem.

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      7. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Ivanovic in the scout picks.
        Mata in the differentials article.
        Hazard in the scout picks.

        SHUT UP.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          After everyone got rid for Baines.
          After everyone for rid for Hazard.
          Only because people were only holding on to him for this game.

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      8. itstimmehc
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Your statement loses all credibility by just having that username.

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      9. Van The Man
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        You shouldn't seek opinions in that case! Should respect people's opinions if you do seek advice. Thats my opinion though.

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      10. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Don't let the door hit you on the way out you knobjockey!

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      11. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        We won't miss you.

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      12. vballer
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Dude, understand your frustration, but PATIENCE is the name of the game. Stop chasing last weeks' points, stop chasing points over value, and lastly make your own decisions based on watching how the players actually perform and how the teams are set up. e.g. it's obvious fellaini won't always be playing upfront given everton has 3 pretty good strikers and can utilise at least 2 up front anytime; hazard performed well initially but didn't do as well as the team changed its style of play, if you didn't realise.

        I know, easy to say on hindsight, but I kept faith with torres hazard and michu for the past 3 weeks and all performed today. sad to say I sold bale right before his crazy runs started, kudos to those who kept faith.

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        1. vballer
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          *value over points

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      13. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Hey, this is why FFS is the number 1 ranked group in the entire game 😉 Wise up, son.

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      14. djt
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        KNOB

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      15. Paully Walnuts
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Do you not have a brain of your own?? Are you incapable of making your own decisions??

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      16. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        And how many times has this site guided you in the right direction? When someone's opinions lead you to success I'm sure you're quick to take all the credit for your "inspired" choice. When a different opinion leads you to a poor return you come one here and take a shot and the very guy who started this whole thing. Rather irritating.

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      17. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 18 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Ten minutes ago you were claiming we'd said to get rid of Hazard in a members article when we said exactly the opposite and you hadn't even read the article. What's your motive I wonder?

        This on a day where out of 6 picks who have so far played today, 5 of them have scored goals or assists.

        We never bill ourselves as experts - we're enthusiasts and our remit is to offer up information for others to form their own opinions. Having said that, two FPL Champions in three years have been visitors and users of this site and our community is top of the league of leagues again this season. We can't get everything right but I'm pretty sure we're helping people. Sorry if you haven't been one of them.

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        1. Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          I said a claimed member of this site said your Hazard article stated he wasn't a going to be in the future returns and it was better to get Mata. You clarified otherwise.

          I respect your option, but think you jump the gun too often like your Holy Trinity article. Many players wild carded and blew up their teams to get those three players and now Tevez is a rotation risk and Hazard is less involved than Mata. And Rooney will complicate things for RVP going forward. I think your articles should emphasize more longer term planning than the flavor of the month.

          I know you have had a hard on for Baines for several years, but when your site stated that Ivanovic was a rotation risk due to their new signing, many got rid of him for Baines, me included. If I had known Iva would have continued to start, I would have kept him as I had in from the beginning before the price rises.

          Your site is a plethora of information for th EPL and I appreciate it.

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      18. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Well, I've been a member since the start of the season and think the advice from contributors has been excellent. There is always an element of luck in this game - no one can fully know what will happen - but all opinions are based on stats and knowledge. Unfortunately, the comment sections have many cases of poor judgement - largely from people like you.

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      19. Mason
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Go figure it out on your own then. Faggot. ping pong is also a faggot who should stick to reading his Match magazine and leave Fantasy Football to the adults.

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    14. Lrf
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      36 from 9 (but one of the players left is Demel). Up to RvP(c) to make it an ok week.

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