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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    If I had Nolan in my starting 11 I'd be cursing right now. That's 2 goals he's been disallowed now this season.

    It also reminds me why I might have been wrong benching him.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      why did it disallow? i miss it

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Collins was jumping on Ivanovic

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        1. OPTA FPL
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          13 years, 1 month ago

          t.y :mad

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  2. Wings of Steel
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Cracks me up how bigger teams tend to have the decisions go their way

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      especially when it comes to Nolan goals!

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      1. bdwhite91
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        and Fellaini and Everton penalties. Chicharito standing behind Cech onside lol. Torres goal in the first week. Balls!

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  3. Raul
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    can't watch this game, mata is looking dangerous, not good for my health 🙂

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  4. Rafabio
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Nolan getting a talking to from the ref. Yellow soon to follow 🙂

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Should have got one for the assault on Cech

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  5. Jafooli
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Torres really is 50 million pounds of turd pie......

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The biggest flop of all time?

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Since transfer to Chelsea, getting close....

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Yep. Sheva for 30 was a steal. 🙂

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Both at Chelsea. Abramovic sure knows how to waste money

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  6. Golden Oldies
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Just saw this.....Everton have won 8 of the last 10 games against Man City, and where the last team to win at Etihad

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    1. Golden Oldies
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      also....There has never been a draw in the Premier League between Man City & Everton

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      And only 4 of those matches are relevant...

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      1. DLL18
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        They've won 5 of the last 6... so.

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  7. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    ok guys I know Lateriser has commented on it, and very well too IMO, but here's the deal

    If like me you sold Mata, ask yourself, who made you do it? Unless the answer is, the guy who held a gun to my head, you deal with it, these things often happen, as do benched points. Although I find it annoying, given Mata has sun, followed by a blank, I believe getting Bale in was the right move long term, you can't own everybody.

    Mata owners/keepers. Well done on holding firm, and enjoy your moment (in a nice way) but what are you doing with him now?

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    1. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Still selling unless he gets benched midweek.

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      1. Bullet Tooth Bony
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        +1

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    2. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Bale was definitely the right move, imo.

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      getting rid still i think, but for whom????!!

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    4. Yossi
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I didn't see many non-Mata owners complaining too much to be honest mate, certainly no more than usual if a player you don't own scores.

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    5. Beamer
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      If he gets another goal, then i will keep him... holy crap so close mata

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    6. bdwhite91
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      GRR I am so mad managers benched their players. They just didn't take my team into consideration!

      I hate seeing all those posts about Rafa and Mancini being an idiot (although sometimes Mancini's calls are questionable).

      I'm going to hold on to Mata and shift my defense. I'll probably just bench Mata during the blank.

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    7. Portuguese&Proud
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      still not sure but the plan was to keep him for WHU and then ditch him for Silva, if he his not due to a drop again i may afford another week with him in my team but i believe i won't keep him after GW16..
      tough decision..

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    8. SC not pearls before swine
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I still think I'll probably sell, but it might wait one more week rather than doing it now.

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  8. Paz12
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    If Mata and Tevez have a great week, and Liverpool get beat 1-0, think this site will go into meltdown...

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      AND Baines scores

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Hey Mark ditched Baines. The last bastion of defence falls.

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      2. Beamer
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Baines likely to Score 😀

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      3. Paz12
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Oh if Baines scores I am going to cry, just dropped him for enrique, which i am starting to think was a HUGE mistake

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  9. flipperallstars
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    I am loving that everyone who had mata in my league has ditched him, unlucky!!!!!!

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    1. Cheeseoid
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      How about you?

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  10. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mata!! Almost!!!

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  11. PogChamp
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mata should have been a second 🙁

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  12. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Thought mata again

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  13. Messiah Hazard
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Almost a second for Mata... What a chance...

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  14. SirStevieG
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    MATA almost a double! So close.

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, he nearly got two goals.... 🙄

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  15. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Moses turning Demel inside out.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Holy moses! What a player he is

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  16. Wolverine
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mata off.....

    To a good start this week

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  17. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Two shots on target for Mata = 9 bps

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      *Three Baps

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Nah, he's that good he'll get 9........and I don't even have him, never have...

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    2. Wolverine
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yh Chelsea win and the 3 bonus is very likely with those 2 shots just now

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  18. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    NO!!!

    SO CLOSE FOR MATA!

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  19. 1966 was a great year for E…
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    F**k me, West Ham, you might want to consider putting someone within 10 yards of Mata when he's INSIDE the 18 yard box...

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  20. Bartowski
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Season keeper

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    1. Jafooli
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Begovic? 😉

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      1. Jafooli
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Quality......

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        1. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          My mum had one of them.....

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            13 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, i know.

            😉

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      2. Mílanista
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Seeing 'rack' in the link had me thinking something entirely different...

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  21. OPTA FPL
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Moses playing well

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  22. Raul
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    thank you jussi

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  23. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    How often this season have se seen players see heavy sales only to bounce back the very weekend we sell them. Its happened a lot really. Perhaps its a lesson to be patient for at least one more game when everything tells us sell sell sell.

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  24. Rafabio
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea look much better with this lineup. Moses adds much needed width. The middle can get too congested with Hazard, Mata and Oscar in the mix.

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  25. The Chosen One...
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mata brace looks likely

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    1. Ryan
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, with Torres not firing Mata really is the biggest threat for Chelsea when operating in the hole

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      he always got assist

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  26. Paz12
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Cech booked haha lol

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  27. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Cech yellow

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  28. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Cech... 🙄

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  29. denial
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    This whole carousel of 9m mids has defined this season so far. Not sure I've done that well at having Bale / Caz / Mata for the right GW's.

    All in all, it's a pain in the a rse.

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  30. SnoopDogSmokesWeed
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    MATAAAAAA

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