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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Thought that was an auto-red?

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      They seem to have changed that rule. Someone did that the other day and didn't even get booked. It might that if your momentum carries you outside the box, you don't get a red.

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      1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        A good decision to change that, it led to some very soft red cards. Yellow suffices.

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    2. EatStatic
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      I think it was for the hand ball.

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    3. Paz12
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      Apparently because there was plenty of defenders nearby and it wasnt a clear goalscoring chance it wasnt a straight red, just a yellow

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  2. Gobigorgohome
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    OMG Just woke up ans saw Mata Scored? Last minute I ditched Mata to Walcott for -4. I m feckeeddddd!

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    1. Willis.
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      Nearly did it too. Dodged a bullet there.

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  3. SirStevieG
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Suck it Nolan!

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  4. elkunaguero
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Nolan is such a goal threat...

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      I'm bricking it...if he scores I hope Sterling gets rested 🙂

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      1. Bullet Tooth Bony
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Same. Or Giroud in my case.

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    2. Granville
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      He's quality in the box. He was on the floor 2 seconds before that header.

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      1. AK ⭐
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        I saw that when they were showing that save, I've not seen happening before.

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      2. elkunaguero
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        Amazing positioning inside the box, always seems to be in the right place

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  5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Nolan again on the end of one...PLEASE don't punish me for benching 🙂

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  6. Gobigorgohome
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    Cech yellow?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      yes

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  7. Billy Gilmore
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    Great save Cech.

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  8. The Bandit
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    Good game, enjoying it so far.... 🙂

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  9. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Half time..........

    Juan Nil

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Is that Alan Knill's son?

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Michael Macintyre!

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      There did I
      see
      what you

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I hope it stays Juan Nil. I could do with 2 from Demel instead of 1. "The little things"

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        🙂 I know the feeling

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      2. Low-Life
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        Blimey. Having Demel in my team is the least of my worries.

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  10. Nopli
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    Mata nailed on for 3 bps 🙂

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      wouldn't be too quick with that

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    2. Granville
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not when there is still 45 minutes to play.

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  11. Root
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    Valencia -> Nolan this week? Four weeks too early? Nolan is fixture proof.

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  12. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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    Didn't keep record.....how many saves for Jussi?

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    1. Bun Rab
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      2 atm.

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      1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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        thx....he'll most probably come off my bench for friedel

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  13. OPTA FPL
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    NO-lan 🙁

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  14. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    6 points with 10 to play

    You?

    😆

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      0 points with 11 to play. I'd say we're about even 😉

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    2. Cilly Bonnolly
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Not if Mata misses a penalty then gets sent off. 🙂

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  15. FPLCEO
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mata or Bale for PFA player of the year?

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Bale

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      both deserve it.... Mata for me but quite bias

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    3. moment
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Bit early to decide. My money's on JT

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    4. Drip Doctor
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      Suarez

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        or Fellaini

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  16. rohan
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    As a Chelsea fan, i am finally relieved to see a decent performance. Azpi, Moses and Ramires have been excellent.. And also as a Mata owner, i can't complain.. We need to deal with Nolan though.. I hope we keep up the good work in the second half

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  17. mutatedllama
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Why no save credit for Jussi? 🙁

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    1. Spike ⚽️
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      FPL saff are at lunch 😉

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      1. Spike ⚽️
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        staff even

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    2. Portuguese&Proud
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      2 saves and counting

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    3. Portuguese&Proud
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      look at the match details it's there...

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  18. Valar(Keith)
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Think i'm gonna keep mata for the season.. bought him @ 9.1.. will just play 4 at the back GW 17.. plans of mice and men ah

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      if you enjoy him not playing every week then fine

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      1. Valar(Keith)
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        why would he not play 90 % of games? nearly out of the UCL too.. it's not like Gerrard or Torres got much rest under benitez and Mata is their main creative force

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      2. Paul Psychic Octopus
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Once Chelsea out of the CL, and after the stick Manuel got for dropping him last game, I don't think this will happen too often

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      3. Freshy
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        They will be out of champions league so I dont see resting your best player when the Prem title is all your playing for

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  19. Super Swans
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    shit...my oppenent this week is a ghost team who have 4 che player n captain mata....hope its stay 1-0...
    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/101036/event-history/15/

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    1. Beamer
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      How can you have 4 players from the same team?

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      1. Super Swans
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        team linked....mata,hazard,moses,acole.....

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      2. Shaps
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        He had Moses as a Wigan player and he doesn't have to change it until he makes a transfer

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      3. Podge
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        ask nicely and they let u 🙂

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      4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        he bought Moses when at Wigan and hasn't made any transfers

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      5. Super Swans
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        moses is a wigan plyer at the start of the season...

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      6. moment
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        He bought Moses before Chelsea did. Were he to make a transfer it would have to be a Chelsea player out, but until he does, and it's a ghost team, so he most likely won't, he can have 4 players. Some guy had a team last season with about 8 QPR players via the same means...

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      7. Crazy Joe
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Moses.

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      8. JapBen
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        if a player changes teams after the start of the season you can, he must have bought Moses when he was still a Wigan player

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      9. Declan-
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        had moses before the swap

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      10. Brutus619
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Moses bought before transferred to Chelsea lol. I've seen a team made entirely from QPR players.

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      11. fenolaj
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        He had bought moses as a wigan palyer before the transfer.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      HA! Not a bad overall rank considering he's made no transfers, has Cisse and has had pretty much no GK all season!!

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      1. Super Swans
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        yeah...unlucky to go againts him this week...

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  20. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    And now that's why, Rafa, you don't bench Mata!

    He was running the show. Cruising to 3baps and likely to score more attacking returns!

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      You can't play every game of the season.

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    2. Willis.
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      One could argue that it was Rafa's decision to rest him mid-week that has led to him scoring today.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        ^This

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  21. Milner4eva
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    mata to get subbed at half time

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      think got knock

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      very likely

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    3. Jafooli
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      In Rafa we trust....

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    4. Beamer
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      Mata to score 2 more in second half

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    5. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      chelsea fans gonna kill rafa if that happens

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  22. TheKingThierry
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    I love it when people post on here defending a decision they made ie.selling mata

    1) We don't care

    2) Admit you cocked up

    3) We still don't care

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      when you have a grav, come back

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      1. TheKingThierry
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Lol calm it it's only a game

        😉

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    2. moment
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      It's only a cock-up if Walcott doesn't score. Even then it's not necessarily a cock-up as selling him protected team value, and positions the team better towards the blank CFC week coming up.

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    3. Cilly Bonnolly
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      1) You care enough to make a post about it.

      2) Even if the player brought in goes out and scores more than him?

      3) Yes you do.

      😉

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  23. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    The downside of my transfers this week

    I lost Mata

    The upside

    I acquired Bale and Fellaini

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    1. Shaps
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      yep

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    2. Spike ⚽️
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      We all have to make sacrifices to get in the preferred players. I got rid of Michu and Baines for Bale and Merts 🙂

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  24. cruzex
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Comonnn Hazard!!!!!

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    1. Rafabio
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      GW 1-5 has long gone.

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  25. Hi I'm Jose
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    When I sold Santi and got Rooney, Santi got his goal and Rooney missed a peno.

    Since When I got Baines, he did not have a cleanie. Penalties were denied.

    Last week, I played Mata and benched Hughes.

    THis week, sold Mata, Rooney and Baines, benched Nolan.

    Anyone to beat me???

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    1. Mindless Freak
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Sold Kolarov before his 22 pointer, for a person that didn't play.

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    2. Gobigorgohome
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      I sold Mata, Rooney and Baines this week too. last week I ditched Michu and Ba for hits.

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  26. Nicti
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    I better have a gd week, i have 8 players same as Mark's 11 !

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      you better have same 8 as Laterise's this year

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  27. Paz12
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    Chances of Chelsea CS? Also, thoughts on Ivanovic? As a CB he really doesn't look great value, but if Terry comes back think Ivanovic will go back out to being an attacking threat as a fullback? Have him and considering switching him for a City defender, but Chelsea under Benitez are starting to look more solid at the back...

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  28. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Torres always looks better with Mata around. Their link up play is really good.

    Anyone tempted by the rejuvenated Torres? 😆

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    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      If he drops to 8m. Only then maybe!

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      Torres was not at all impressive...

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      His touch is impeccable... 😆

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    4. Paz12
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      Rvp to Torres....:P

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    5. Ginkapo FPL
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      Of course. Give it a couple of weeks and I am doing Mata ➡ Torres

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  29. Nopli
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    So far so good 🙂

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    1. rohan
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      Yup

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      yeah

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  30. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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    So glad I didn't sell Mata for Walcott!

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      🙄

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      hold on walcott hasn't even played yet

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    3. MyMateToldMe.com
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      You might just change your mind when Walcott scores a brace.

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