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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Davido989
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    Reina, G Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Allen Gerrard Lucas Shelvey, Sterling, Suarez.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      3 hours late!

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      1. Davido989
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        Sorry your highness

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      how is formation with that line up?

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      1. Davido989
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        4-3-1-2 I think. Not sure

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          With Enrique and Johnson basically playing as wingers. Makes sense

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          1. Davido989
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            Yup

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      as we expected JE at lb

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      1. Davido989
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        Back to where he belongs!

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  2. Mindless Freak
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    MATAAAAA!!!! Just heard 😛

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      🙂 🙂

      I love posts like this!

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      1. Mindless Freak
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        How come :P?

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
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          You're late for the party!

          🙂 🙂

          *CELEBRATION*

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          1. Mindless Freak
            • 13 Years
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            Aha yeah but that's because i just heard 😛

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        2. AK ⭐
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          He's surely a Dabangg! 😉

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          1. Mindless Freak
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            Meh lol

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    2. Nopli
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      🙂

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  3. OPTA FPL
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    Bad news for Nolan owner 😡
    Carroll out for 8 weeks
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20566158

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    1. Bun Rab
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      • 13 Years
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      Doesn't stop him basically playing up front!

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        Yeah...he'll be even more forward now. Sad news for Andy though

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      I think I'm going to keep Nolan. He ALWAYS gets chances and he looks a threat today. It's hard to sell him when you watch him get on the end of so much.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
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        ^^ this
        Hard to sell hhim when you watch him play every week.

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      2. Bun Rab
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        • 13 Years
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        I had to drop him this week so i could keep Baines and get Bale and Suarez. Annoyed by it already, he plays so far forward. Always gets chances.

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    3. Freshy
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      espn was reporting that its not as bad as feared

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    4. Qubit
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      Im still getting him in a couple of weeks.

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    5. Root
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      Might be getting him this week. Fixtures aren't perfect just yet, but I can deal with it.

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  4. SW6
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    Moses is playing well. Not an FF prospect but he was one of my favourite EPL players when he was at Wigan.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Good winger, and better defensively than some

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  5. PogChamp
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    Only just realised that Chelsea are on for a 4th clean sheet on the bounce. I Guess that is why I suck at FF. No Chec, no Cole and no Ivan 🙁

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Ive got no Chelsea OR City defence, for the last 8/10 games 🙁

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        Same here.

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  6. Milner4eva
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    caz hattrick coming up

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  7. Davido989
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    Anyone else hear Gangnam Style at Upton Park? 😀

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    1. mufc802
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      who cares?

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    2. Paz12
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      I liked the hilarious mascot doing the dance!

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  8. Nicti
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    I better have a good week, 8 players same as mark's 11

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Okay. We saw it the first time!

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    2. Mindless Freak
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yes you mentioned before as well.

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    3. Cheeseoid
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      I really mis read that thought you said w**k. Still makes sense in a twisted way

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  9. dogtanion
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    Nolan's overhead was perfectly ok?

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  10. UKG
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    Unlucky Mata sellers..... form, class and all that 🙂

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  11. rohan
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    Can't log in to FPL. Jussi on 3 saves or 2?

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    1. Nicti
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      2

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    2. Mindless Freak
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      2

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    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      2

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    4. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
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      Zwei

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    5. moment
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      Hasn't got a save point so < 3.

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    6. Ginkapo FPL
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      2

      You need to get a life.

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      1. rohan
        • 14 Years
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        Bitter much? 😉

        I'll be on the low now relax 🙂

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          bitter? I have Mata and no Jussi!

          Just saying that possibly knowing how many saves Jussi has made isnt that important

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
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            And I realise me looking for you is just as bad

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            1. rohan
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              😆 classic

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    7. rohan
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      Cheers for the replies

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  12. That's Groß
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    Damn swapped Mata for Bale. Always seem to have the wrong one of these two so far this season. Rats.

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    1. Nicti
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      second to that. did mata to bale, then bale to mata and now mata to bale again

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    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      he hasn't played yet 😉

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    3. Granville
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nothing wrong with that if Bale outscores Mata.

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  13. Viper
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Just entered my super 6 predictions..

    Arsenal 3-2 Swansea
    Liverpool 3-0 Southampton
    Man City 1-1 Everton
    West Brom 1-0 Stoke
    QPR 1-1 Villa
    Fulham 2-2 Spurs

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    1. Davido989
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      1-1
      2-0
      2-0
      2-1
      1-1
      3-2

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  14. Mindless Freak
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    No widsom and No wilkinson will leave me with Shorey. Dam.

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  15. tm245
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    How can the Mata decision even be rated yet? Unless you shipped him or didn't for other Chelsea or god forbid West Ham players, only one of twenty halves of the Gw have been played, which is only one of 24 gw left, so how can the move be judged? Did Mata shippers think he would never score again?

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      There's been enough hate on the Mata sellers already. Give it a rest.

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      1. tm245
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        I am a Mata seller, and do not hate myself.

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        1. Ryan
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          I'm pretty sure Mata sellers didn't think he'd never score again 🙄 its a stupid comment and very belittling.

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          1. tm245
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            Just saw this response. For what it's worth, the intention of the comment was to suggest no belittling of either side since the move is so fresh. Since I shipped him as well, I certainly don't think I'll of Mata sellers.

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    2. The Bandit
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      No room for sense on here....

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    3. Qubit
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      I sold him on, and whilst im not overly happy he scored (obviously!) im still content that it was the right decision in the long term

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      1. tm245
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        Agreed.

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  16. Rafabio
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    IF this were to happen:

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1246144/manchester-united-considering-new-wesley-sneijder-bid?cc=5901

    How much would Wesley be priced at in FPL? 🙂

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      9 and change

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  17. Pea Soup
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Are we expecting Jaaskeleinen save points? Anybody watching it?

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    1. Pea Soup
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      Oops just seen the above post. Apologies.

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    2. Viper
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      He has 2 so far, can't see him getting to 6 tbh..

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Not with Torres playing.

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    3. Tin of Directors
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      He's had two saves so far.

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    4. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      watching...but never kept record of saves.....
      word is 2 saves till now

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    5. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Got 2 saves already so seems likely.

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  18. Bullet Tooth Bony
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    So many grav-less newbies.
    Someone should really post how to acquire a grav.
    Not me, but someone.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      there is little point. There are one or 2 gravless poster who make a good contribution to this site, but most of the others are lurkers who only appear when they have something to brag about

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        RonH is gravless. Great Contributor

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        1. Bullet Tooth Bony
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          Yeah, he knows how to get one, he just can't be bothered.

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    2. Your Mum's Athletic
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      I dont have a grav, im not a newb and im also not a prick like you seem to be!:)

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        😀

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      2. Bullet Tooth Bony
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        Thanks for your contribution, "Your mums athletic".

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        1. Your Mum's Athletic
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          anytime pal, why dont you link your team 'pro' rather than some other nobhead

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          1. Bullet Tooth Bony
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            Do you want me to just tell you how to get a grav so you can stop crying?

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      3. Tin of Directors
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        I'll second the prick part.

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        1. Your Mum's Athletic
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          🙂

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  19. Gobigorgohome
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    here hoping Walcott outscore Mata this week. 😉

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      +1 I have both 😉

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  20. Tin of Directors
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    Non FPL question.
    If I had a dead pixel on my iMac whould it not show up on a screen shot??

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      No. Screen shot is a capture of the video memory, the dead pixel is downstream of that.

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    2. Bullet Tooth Bony
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      No haha.

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        What's funny?

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        1. Bullet Tooth Bony
          • 13 Years
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          It reminded me of someone who took a screenshot to show the crack in their screen. Never mind.

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      2. EatStatic
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        It will if he looks at the screen shot on his iMac. 😉

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      Nope it wouldnt. Its a dead pixel on your screen and not in the software. Screenshot displays what the software is trying to display.

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        Thanks guys!

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    4. Jafooli
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      Sorry to hear about your pixel, RIP.......

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        🙁

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    5. Qubit
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      it would show up on your mac but not on another computer without any dead pixels

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    6. mufc802
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      No

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  21. Why always not me?
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    it looks like fellani wants to play DM, i hope he goes back there . . .
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8298821/

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  22. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone have, or considering César Azpilicueta?

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Not till after they go to Japan, but could have been a smart move.

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    2. Reckoner.
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      Considering him but they have a blank in 2 GWs time so will wait until after if I do decide. Will probably shift some money around in the meantime so I can afford someone more nailed on, not sure he will get as much game time once Terrys back.

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    3. fenolaj
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      unfortunately he is not nailed on

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  23. Beamer
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    MATAAAAAAAAAAA...............
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG1k9-C3zdw

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  24. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    tomkins off
    diame on

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      o'neill off
      taylor on

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  25. Dynamic
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    West Ham double sub.

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      Diame and ....?

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Don't worry - seen it.

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  26. Acquafresca
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    How is Hazard playing?

    Going to boot him regardless, but just wondering.

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    1. Rafabio
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      Just boot him and be done with it.

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  27. Bullet Tooth Bony
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    Look at this opening tempo :O

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  28. Viper
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    Just seen the highlights of Spurs/Liv

    Enrique could of had a hattrick 😯

    Pity it looks like he'll be back at LB today..

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    1. Davido989
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Deservedly so. It's always great to see your full backs attacking but switching a LW with a LB and vice versa isn't what fans want to see.
      Enrique left back.
      Downing back to the bench.
      That's the way we like it

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    2. Acquafresca
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      Who will play LW?

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  29. Mannone is Mob Boss
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    FLAGELLA17, u there?

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  30. Lawrø
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    Who's coming off the bench for Demi?

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