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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

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  1. Lord Flashheart
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    Is a shot hitting the bar on or off target?

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    1. Red-United
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      Off.

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    2. Rafabio
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      Can't remember who, but someone once said it's a shot off target.

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    3. Clintymints
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      -ppi

      ridiculous but well it's the way it is

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    4. thetinkerman
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      Off. If has to be going in to be on target.

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        Crazy to lose a bonus point for this free kick

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Now that's a different argument! 😉

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  2. Davido989
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    1. Timon
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      BERBinho's Forehead OUT

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    2. The Light Knight
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      Sorry what?

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
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        Does Smalling start ahead of him?

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
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          Benitez

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      2. Ginkapo FPL
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        C Cole scored, so clearly Rafa isnt up to the job. This is how Chelski fans think (and a deranged pool)

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  3. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    @SpursOfficial: Our starting team today: Lloris, Naughton, Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey & Defoe #COYS

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  4. Pinoche
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    Tottenham Hotspur @ SpursOfficial 13s
    Our starting team today: Lloris, Naughton,
    Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro,
    Dembele, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey & Defoe

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    1. Gobigorgohome
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      Bale+Dembele= Bale double score.

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  5. Parm
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    #AVFC Guzan; Lowton, Clark, Baker, Lichaj, Westwood; Bannan; Herd, Holman, Agbonlahor; Benteke. #AVFCLIVE

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  6. The Bandit
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    lol... Chelsea cs ruined by Cole, no Nolan involvement.. Perfick 🙂

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      +1

      Bar that Mata goal, all my transfer decisions have proved successful so far

      Have you kept Baines?

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  7. Pinoche
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Saints team: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida,
    Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana (c)
    , Ramírez, Lambert.

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  8. thetinkerman
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    This is going to be one of those weeks where everyone would have been better doing nothing!

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Not if Enrique scores! 🙂

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      1. thetinkerman
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        True.

        Tevez off after 59 mins would suit me!

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    2. Ryan
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      We don't really know that yet

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    3. MyMateToldMe.com
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      Agreed.

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  9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Mata hits post hahhahaha

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      What are you laughing at exactly? It was a great free kick

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      1. Red-United
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        My guess is that Bemba knee jerked Mata out of his team so he wants him to do badly this GW.

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      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        -ppi

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        1. SirStevieG
          • 13 Years
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          How are those straws that you're clutching at going?

          10 points.

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    2. SirStevieG
      • 13 Years
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      Still going to get 10 points. Nothing to laugh at.

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      1. Red-United
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        Still a lot of time left.

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      2. Van Dal
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        Na cole

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    3. Captain Shirokov
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      Do you not have him in at least one of your teams?

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      1. Brutus619
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        Haha brilliant reply.

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    4. Gobigorgohome
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      -ppi 😆

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    5. Epic Fail
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      Minus PPI. Good.

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  10. Top 210 Club
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    Kinda obvious Morrison wont start 3 games in a week... Hence why I benched him.

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  11. Clintymints
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    fack me

    Juan Mata

    This is why we don't bench him Raf

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      it was a 3 games in 7 days....gotta rest your best at some point

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  12. Mílanista
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    Kolo on the bench over Nasty, injury?

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    1. Granville
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      I would have thought so.

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  13. Thatsnotcricket
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Wisdom out again ffs!

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    • Billy Gilmore
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      These lineups are not to my liking 😐

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    • JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Southampton are unchanged

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    • SirStevieG
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      Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho.

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      1. Canadian Football
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        Giroud????

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        1. Captain Shirokov
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          Benched. I think.

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        Walcott in the middle? I know it will be Gerv, but is it Walcott...? 😛

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    • Pinoche
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      #QPR : Green, Traore, Hill, Nelsen, Bosingwa,
      Mbia, Granero, Diakite, Wright-Phillips, Taarabt,
      Mackie.

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        No cisse????

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    • The Finnisher
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      Tottenham Hotspur ‏@SpursOfficial

      Our starting team today: Lloris, Naughton, Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey & Defoe #COYS

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    • Parm
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      Saints team: Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Shaw, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Cork, Lallana (c), Ramírez, Lambert. #saintsfc

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    • Pinoche
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Guzan; Lowton, Clark,
      Baker, Lichaj, Westwood; Bannan; Herd,
      Holman, Agbonlahor; Benteke

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        Guzan CB?

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      2. Van Dal
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        Thanks aatish mate

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    • The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      No Ridgewell and Giroud.....I'm screwed

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    • LewanGOALski
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      Gervingo or Walcott CF when Giroud benched?

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      1. Canadian Football
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        i think walcott

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      2. athleticbilbobaggins
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        Gervinho

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      3. Billy Gilmore
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        All 3 of Forehead, Theo and Pod interchanging I think.

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      4. Ginkapo FPL
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        oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

        Damn good question

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      5. Kostja
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        Gervinho probably but I think they could interchange positions in between the entire front 3

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    • Le Bluff
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      Enrique back to LB.

      Haha FML.

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      1. tm245
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        Is that shape a 4-5-1 then?

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    • Parm
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      Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Cazorla, Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho.

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      1. Podge
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        No Giroud 🙁

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      2. Acquafresca
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        no Giroud..

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      3. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        not buying Giroud = success

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    • michaelington
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      Billy Jones benched?

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      1. Portuguese&Proud
        • 13 Years
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        rested i believe but still he's not on the bench...

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    • VarunK
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      I have Giroud (c).

      @#%$

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    • Cheeseoid
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      so is the return date of 08/12/12 for the return of Foster likely to happen?

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    • Acquafresca
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      Benitez fired 😀

      Hazard sucks 🙁

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    • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      Routledge and Hernandez miss out for swansea

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    • OPTA FPL
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      Mata out !

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