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1 December 2012 5026 comments
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Gameweek 15 begins with the bluster of a London derby, laced with some good old fashioned ill-feeling between the managers. Rafa Benitez and Sam Allardyce face off having traded words in the past, in what promises to be a bruising encounter and one that is set to test the Rafa regime to the full.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch your reaction to events in this game and all of Saturday’s other seven encounters.

The team news from Upton Park is significant for both sides. The Hammers go into the game without Andy Carroll who has failed to overcome the knee knock suffered in the midweek defeat at Old Trafford – Carlton Cole leads the attack, then. On the plus side, Mark Noble returns from his ban to bolster the midfield, while Gary O’Neil is also drafted in with Matt Taylor and, surprisingly, Mo Diame dropping to the bench.

Once again we can see rotation in the Chelsea lineup. While Juan Mata is restored, it appears that it’s Oscar’s turn to get rested to the bench – he makes way for the Spaniard’s return. Victor Moses and Mikel also come in with Ryan Bertrand and Oriol Romeu dropping out. Gary Cahill replaces the suspended David Luiz as expected.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Orange Thunder
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    😀
    All those that played Sterling above Fellaini..

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Could still work out though, 45 minutes are left you know.

      But well done to those who played Fellaini above Sterling.

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It's halftime....

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      1. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        +1

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      2. Orange Thunder
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        There is that.

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    3. Brookins
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Liverpool all over Southampton, could be 4-0 or 5-0 at the end. Wouldn't be so sure yet.

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      1. Orange Thunder
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Really?

        Well, in that case. I hope Giroud stays on the bench...

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    4. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      🙁 I played Taraabt too.

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    5. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It's half time...I had a feeling Fellaini would score, but I didn't want it to happen as a City supporter. SOT leak goals.

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    6. Joga Bonito®
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm a Liverpool fan but put Sterling on the bench. Fellaini is amazing at the moment.

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  2. phunk
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Was thinking of gettig Nastasic but even on bench this week any reason

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Only Mancini knows.

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    2. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Been mancinid.

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  3. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Almost that Fella again!!

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  4. Blue-Ghosts
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    WOW BAINES CROSS FELLAINI HEADER SAVED

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    1. Blue-Ghosts
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      UNLUCKY

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  5. COMH
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Transfers of death from me this week

    Cameron, Mata, Tevez > Wisdom, Walcott, Suarez

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  6. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Christ.

    Baines, Mata & Tevez all doing something.

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    1. Podge
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Certainty really 🙁

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      All those who fall (in price) shall rise again.....Well, that makes no sense but it is true this week.

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    3. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        At least I own Mata & Fella 😀

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    4. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It's horrifying!

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      1. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Fellaini...tough call though.

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    5. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Went for Mata and Demel ---> Walcott and Nastasic this week 😎

      Bring tevez back midweek worked nicely, RVP(vc) and Davies off bench.

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    6. tm245
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Kept one, shipped one, skipped one. Need RVP c to make me feel that I moved forward.

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    7. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      keep the faith.

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  7. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Looks like I'm the only person here dont have Fellaini 🙁

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    1. Hubert
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Plenty benched him

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        at least they got his points

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        1. Rojo's Modern Life
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          wat

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          1. OPTA FPL
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            last 14 GW

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      2. Uncle John from Jamaica
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Me too sadly for Sterling

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      o/ me too

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    3. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      On my bench :/ Had to do it while watching City.

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    4. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I find it hard to get him again - When I got him he got me 2,2,1,0....very irritating.

      I will have to just accept defeat and get him again.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        same, i got him for that bad run

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  8. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool defenders discussed on FFS this week

    Enrique, Wisdom, Johnson, Skrtel, Downing

    ....Agger scores

    😆

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Well GJ got the assist....

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      GJ did well.....(Yes, Giggs Boson, I'm thinking about you)

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Assist? 😉

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I know...of course...I'm just saying it's ironic that Agger gets the goal

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          I wish i mentioned Agger now, his stats look impressive in my custom table!!

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    4. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Leave it out

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      1. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        AH HEYOR

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      2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I wasn't trying to offend anyone...I was pointing out the irony that Agger was never mentioned...

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  9. mutatedllama
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    So I went for Baines + Ba -> Garrido + Suarez instead of Baines + Tevez -> Enrique + Suarez.

    Feeling pretty okay right now.

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    1. Rojo's Modern Life
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      EXCELLENT NEWS

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  10. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    this week been aweful

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      horrible stuff 🙁
      again

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      1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        this week was supposed to be great 3gws in one week
        but till now
        2 red arrows, chelsea draws and then loses, and i shipped baines out,.....
        🙁
        FECK

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  11. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines and Tevez out. Just need a Pienaar hat-trick to complete a great FPL day 🙁

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    1. Gobigorgohome
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Anyone else Baines, Mata , Tevez out? 🙁

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  12. sy
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Tevez out for giroud wasn't a wise move!!!

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe in the long run due to the Mancini affect.

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        effect*

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    2. Joga Bonito®
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      That has never been a sensible move.

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  13. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else looking at ways to turn Ridgewell into Baines? I'm 0.5m short, but I should probably get rid of Nolan anyway.

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nolan was dangerous today.

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  14. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    "About Carlos I can say nothing (critical) because when he plays, even if he is not 100 per cent, he's a fighter, he puts everything he can on the pitch, so I can't say anything against him.

    "But it is clear that we want our strikers to be scoring goals and at this moment Carlos is not strong and for this reason he was on the bench in the last three games."

    Now what?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I told you GJ was worth it.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Aye aye steady one we are not done yet 😉

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          He's been a ridiculous source of attack so far.

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    2. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      its a penalty. even my grandad can score from the spot

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Your grandad doesn't play in the PL though so it's sort of irrelevant.

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    3. sy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He benched him after he scored 2 goals, makes no sense!

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    4. My name is an echo
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I have Tevez but wont be keeping him. he will have big weeks but rotation is too much of a threat

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Same, just not sure when. Berbatov playing deep again and no other obvious replacements at the moment.

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    5. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Mancini loves that nonsense speech

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  15. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    THE RUGBY IS MAAAAAD

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    1. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Rugby is gay

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Wow. That was ignorant

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        1. Simon69
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          It was a joke. Scrubs and The Todd are shite, though

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          1. Give The Todd Some Love
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            Again ignorant. Scrubs is amazing 😛

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            1. Simon69
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 1 month ago

              Its absolutely terrible, man. That Doctor Cox idiot is the most punchable person on television.

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  16. mutatedllama
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Wow Gazzaniga 5 saves already. Liverpool must be dominating.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      All over them. Hit the woodwork twice too.

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  17. Beamer
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Mancini is such a jerk.... Cant understand his rotation policy, held on to Tevez till last gameweek and finally lost patience and sold him for Giroud for a 4 pt hit...

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  18. Viper
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines & Tevez -> Enrique & Suarez 😕

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Don't worry..only 45 minutes gone.

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I think a lot of us are in a similar position. It should pay off in the log run.

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      This, plus a tenner on Suarez FGS at 4/1 and he hits the bar just before the goal 🙁

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Saw that. My captain too. The game should open up now though.

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          You can't hang on to a 9.odd striker who's not nailed on, I suppose. Still annoying, though.

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    4. Vpan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Mata & Tevez -> Walcott & Suarez

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  19. gerrard08
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    hope morrison doesnt cum from bench

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I bet his fellow subs hope he doesn't do that either.

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Nice.

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      2. Darth
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        🙂

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      3. Burd Turglars
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        3 match ban, surely?

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    2. SirStevieG
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Oh geez

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    3. The_Druid
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

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    4. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Hah!

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    5. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      i hope not either, no ejaculate needed on the pitch...

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    6. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      We all hope that i'm sure

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  20. Bad Seed
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    For all of you who shipped Tevez, it was probably the right move, even though you've missed out on some points today. I still think I have to ship him this week.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      steady, 1 half left

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  21. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    C'mon Mancini, get Aguero on.

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  22. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Tevez is the luckiest FPL player in the game.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      LOL what a strange way of looking at it

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    2. mutatedllama
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Would you like some cheese with your whine?

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      James McClean 2011/12 disagrees.

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    4. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I agree.

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  23. Gobigorgohome
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Stoke CS will save my GW. 🙁

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      stoke cs....ON MY BENCH!!! 🙁 🙁 🙁

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  24. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines assist 😎

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Your favourite Fulham defender is on the pitch.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        No way, I definitely left him on the bench 😆

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Seems like Reither got injured as Kelly came on for him after 29 minutes. Could get a CS the little troll.

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Enrique CS intact 😀

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    3. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      at least be smug without the shades!

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Sold Mata - my crumb of comfort so far this week!

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    4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      still thinking bout shipping him, i would like at least 1 cs in a while from a defneder

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      1. Godfather Bandit 42
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        depends on how they defned *chuckle*

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  25. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Baines/Tevez → Enrique/Suarez currently on course for a -3pts move 😕

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Baines/Mata/Tevez->Enrique/Bale/Suarez most popular move this week. Imagine who made all these 3 moves for a hit. 🙁

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  26. JT's Dog
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Anyone watching arsenal game, any chance of giroud coming on at half time cause gervinho is crap

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      1. Yes Don
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        on at 60 mins maybe?

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    • Gobigorgohome
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Now City got a soft panelty. Do you believe Baines will score a pen today. Because Because Only Because I SOLD SOLD SOLD him for a hit. 🙁

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    • Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Red players. Red arrow.

      So far. :p

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      1. Portuguese&Proud
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        yeah so far blue is the color for points with the exception of the low owned WHU scorers

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    • Viper
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I guarantee West Brom/Stoke will finish 0-0 but Ridgewell will come on for a cameo to stop Cameron coming off my bench!

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    • rvp786
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      MATA in line for any bonus????

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      1. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Doubt it, max 1.

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        1. rvp786
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          why? apart from carlton cole who else will get them?????????

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          1. Mannone is Mob Boss
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            Doesn't mean he's in your fantasy team he'll get any of 'em

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          2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            The other players who scored and were on the winning team.

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            1. rvp786
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 1 month ago

              cheers pratik

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      2. The Finnisher
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        Nope

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        1. SirStevieG
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Why wont he get bonus?

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