Dugout Discussion
10 December 2012 1299 comments
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Two games remain in Gameweek 16, with tonight’s match at the Cottage next up on the agenda. Fulham go in search of their first win since Gameweek 8, while Newcastle will be hoping to replicate their result from last Monday evening, which earned the Magpies a convincing win over Wigan. As usual, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open ahead of the 8pm kick-off.

The team news finds an array of changes in Martin Jol’s lineup. The Cottagers welcome back skipper Brede Hangeland from suspension, with Chris Baird and Alex Kacaniklic coming into the midfield and Hugo Rodallega starting up top, presumably with Dimitar Berbatov prompting in a support role. Philippe Senderos, Mahamadou Diarra, Karim Frei, Ashkan Dejagah and Mladen Petric all make way. Visitors Newcastle make just one change – Hatem Ben Arfa returns from injury with Sylvain Marveaux dropping out. A 4-2-3-1 formation is again expected from Alan Pardew’s men, with Demba Ba leading the attack and Papiss Cisse taking up a wider support role.

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  1. Hammers Select
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Never mind ba scoring, the hole newcastle team dnt look like scoring

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    1. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      they're in a right hole

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  2. Paz12
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    TIooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooote

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      What happen?

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      1. Paz12
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I think he tried to kill Berbatov...

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      2. Pinoche
        • 14 Years
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        Knock.

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    2. Thick Of It
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      The Cheick of it

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        😀

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  3. Jönny
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Damo... Mike Oldfield - In Dulce Jubilo?

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  4. Arse Craic
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    I hope Fletcher doesnt make it tomorrow. Got Rafael coming in 🙂

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    1. chunk
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He won't play now only 50%! Chance got Noble/Rafael points waiting too

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    2. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
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      Unless, of course, Fletch were to score three or more.

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    3. Arse Craic
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      Only Gorkss can ruin my plans then if Fletcher is missing. 😀

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      1. chunk
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Me too my bench order Gorkss,Noble (8) Rafael (9)

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  5. SW6
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Berba's first touch is a thing of beauty every time.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      ^^this^^

      He has the best first touch of anyone I've seen at OT since Eric.

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        He's such a unique player. So glad he didn't go to Juve in the summer.

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        It's between him and Bebe, anyway.

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      3. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        You're old enough to have seen Eric, not via DVD?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          13 years, 1 month ago

          yes I am 28, I remember Eric very well

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    2. Professor Abel X
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Masterclass

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    3. A.T
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      There's none better in the league for a first touch

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    4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      as long as his last touch is into the opposition's net, i couldnt care less if he were clumsily lurching about like a wounded gazelle

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        + gazelle

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      2. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Or Crouch as he's better known.

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  6. deppman007
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on Bale - Fellaini/Dempsey tonight before the fall/rise? Obviously I want Bale back at some point.

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    1. Gooders
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Check tweets, he might be back next game.

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    2. A.T
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Bale might play this week. Keep him

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  7. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    is there anyone on here not getting 9 points off the bench.....jeez most in my mini league are gettin rafa or nelsen, that just never happens to me lol

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    1. Gooders
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I've got Nelsen on mine 🙁

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nope my Rafael is stranded as first sub.

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I have Sterling (5) Clyne (10) and Rafael (8) firmly rooted to my bench

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      1. Gooders
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Ouch

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      2. Mull
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Rafael(9) 😉

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          rub it in why don't you

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      3. nimbin_headers
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        sterling nelsen and rafa not coming off mine. nearly more points thta my shitty team this week come on berba

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm getting taarabt 3pts from the bench

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        thats more like it gink 😉

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    5. MACHU MICHU
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Punch 11 Rafa 9 Baker 6 doing well on mine

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    6. rabsi1
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Suarez (0), Bale (0), McCartney (0) 🙂

      0 points on the bench. I've got Rafael, Nelsen and Punchoen in my starting line up 😛

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  8. A.T
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Who's on top in this game then ?

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    1. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      All Fulham.

      And its 1-0 Fulham

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  9. FF Dirtbag
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    13 years, 1 month ago

    Sounds like Fletcher -> Berbatov is a must this week...

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    1. don parcheesi
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      I don't know about a must, but if you're looking to keep the cash distribution the same its a good move sooner than later

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      At this rate Berbatov -> Suarez is a must

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      1. Dago
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I was thinking Berba>Rooney myself.

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  10. Dago
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    How is Berba getting on? Stuck at work 🙁

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    1. Professor Abel X
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Playing great, 2 shots on target, but probably won't score!

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      1. Dago
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        cheers man fingers crossed.

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    2. The Bandit
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      But you are on a forum where he is the main topic of coversation.... 🙄

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      1. Dago
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Im at work you grumpy git I have a 5 minute window to check.

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    3. Brookins
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Playing too deep, expect nothing.

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  11. MACHU MICHU
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Berb s problem at old trafford exactly wasteful of all the chances he gets ...

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    1. MrAnderson
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      No hs problem at old Trafford was he was a lazy git.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Not playing was his biggest problem..

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      No it wasn't.

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
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      His problem was that, while he can do things no-one else can do, he won't do the things than anyone else can do.

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      1. Professor Abel X
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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Well concluded!

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      2. MACHU MICHU
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        summed it up perfectly

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      3. @ImpressiveTackl
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        13 years, 1 month ago

        ^ Bang on the money!

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          13 years, 1 month ago

          Must be so frustrating for a manager. As 'Arry would say, 'faacking run abaaht a bit!'

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    4. Professor Abel X
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      You are wrong. Was their top scorer season before last, despite not even playing half the games (Some things in this post may not be 100% accurate)

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    5. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      his problem at old trafford was that he quite liked the bench

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  12. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    from GW18 to January WC it's better to have:

    A. Ivanovic + Skrtel
    B. Skrtel + Nastasic + extra 1.2 mln to upgrade Maloney

    ?

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      B. Maybe with GJ instead of Skrtel?
      GJ seems to love Rodgers system, he's pushing forward even more than ever these days. Skrtel..you're relying on set piece goals.

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I'm just afraid that GJ may be involved into rotation during Xmas games as there are couple good RBs and LBs waiting in the line for a game time...

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          No way. He's completely nailed on.
          If Wisdom gets a game here and there it will be Enrique missing out.

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  13. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Is pardiola's grand plan to make tiote play rubbish until february to make sure that nobody buys him in the window?

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      13 years, 1 month ago

      Is he off to ACON?

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah. Hopefully he remembers how to play when he is there

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  14. A.T
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    My 2 year old girl is poorly and being sick all day. But she's finally gone to sleep so I can watch the match instead of CBeebies! Result.

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Shocking father....

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      1. Brookins
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Either you overuse sarcasm or you're just an ass.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          I appreciate his sarcasm greatly. Just saying.

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      The winter vomiting bug. It's like the bloody plague on houses with children I have 3 small kids and we get it every year.
      Disinfect evreything. Always. While she's still sick and hope you or the missus don't come down with it.

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      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I had it last year. One minute I'm driving home fine. Next I'm throwing up in the car. Wierd!

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        1. Back on the horse
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          13 years, 1 month ago

          sometimes both ends get affected. that's not nice

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  15. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    My team is:

    Begovic tremmel
    Cole Enrique garrido cuellar clyne
    Bale mata fellaini michu noble
    Rvp tevez pogrebnyak

    I was thinking of doing

    Bale & pog --> synod grass & ba/Defoe

    However, if bale is back, is there a different option?

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    1. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I could do cole & pog --> Davies/demel & berbatov?

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  16. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Ba and Berbatov both have shots cleared off the line

    It's just one of those nights!

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, hopefully they catch a break in the 2nd half

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    2. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Yup looking like it. A no show by Fletcher tomorrow will make it a horrible week with all those points waiting to come on.

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Excuse me, you had your fill last Monday night 😉

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        1. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Great so I'm not allowed even an average week.

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          1. Evs
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            ... Go on then, I suppose you do have a little of curse/jinx hovering over you this year?!

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            1. Evs
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              • 16 Years
              13 years, 1 month ago

              Gran, out of curiosity whose Tim hill that's top of the Contributors league?

              Not heard of him...

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              1. Granville
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                • 16 Years
                13 years, 1 month ago

                Anorak

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                1. Evs
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                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 1 month ago

                  Ahhh. Thanks. Being nosey.

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  17. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    Quite poor all round really

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      From you? The match has been great, your coverage has been lacking

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      It almost looks as if both teams cant be bothered playing

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  18. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I really need one of Ba or Berbatov to outshine the other so I know who to sell for Suarez. Any early thoughts on this predicament?

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Berbatov is clearly outshining Ba, plays in a more free scoring team and has the better fixtures. Only 1 winner for me.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers. Ba has bad fixtures coming up too, his days in my team might be numbered.

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        this

        Though I am looking at getting Ba in for Long around GW20 once those fixtures clear up. Unless anyone else around that price range (like Jelly for example) pops up around then

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      3. Drip Doctor
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Free scoring? They have struggled lately.

        Also, Ba has scored double the goals Berba has.

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Well look how many more minutes he's played compared to Ba. Plus those 2 goals being against 10 man wigan. Fulham look and play like they have more goals in the team than Newcastle. Plus their last 5 or so fixtures were pretty difficult..

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          1. Drip Doctor
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            • 15 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            Why does it matter if 2 goals were against 10 man Wigan? It's like saying 2 of Berba' goals were penalties, meaning only 3 have been scored from open play. Doesn't sound that impressive. I have Berbatov by the way, just saying that there isn't much between him and Ba.

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    2. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Ba.

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  19. denial
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    If Berbatov had any other game than QPR next, I'd be tempted to get rid for Defoe.

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      He hasn't scored/assisted for 5 games now. I'm getting rid.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      You're just grumpy! 🙂

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I am grumpy, yes.

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Who are the other dwarfs?

          RonH is dopey.

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 1 month ago

            *must ... resist ... temptation ... *

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            1. Evs
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              • 16 Years
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              Why.

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              1. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 1 month ago

                I'm being positive today. This opportunity presents me with the temptation to be negative.

                I can do this ...

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          2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            13 years, 1 month ago

            Bashful - Camzy?

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            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 1 month ago

              Doc is obviously Facer.

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  20. Chazza
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I'll take that as a Berbatov owner at HT. Looking good for 3 BPs should he score.

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    1. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Considering he has had quite a few shots off target has he not?

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        He hasn;t

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      2. Chazza
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        2 shots, 2 on target, 1 key pass so far.

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    2. Bobby
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Thats the spirit Chazza!

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  21. MrAnderson
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    What's the latest on readings defence? Has someone got injured. And please god is gorkks likely to stay out of the team?

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      last match didnt even make the bench

      i have nelsen coming in so i am hoping the same

      i hope morisson injury doesnt act as a catalyst...

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        If Morisson is still injured surely Pearce would start ahead of Gorkss now

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  22. BullDogTevez
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    Berbatov (c) , Cant see him producing the goods tonight wish i went with my gut and chose Puncheon. Newcastle please score then i don't have to look at a Hangeland and Baird CS on the bench.

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Would take a ridiculously brave man to captain Puncheon...

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      1. BullDogTevez
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Had it on him for aaaaaaaaages then last minute put him as VC

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  23. RoysCallerAnne
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    While it's half time.
    Fletcher -> Rooney (already have RVP)
    Fletcher -> Aguero (have no City attacking)

    Have the money for either and it's a FT.

    Thanks!

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    1. Mull
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Aguero

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    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
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      B)

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    3. LewanGOALski
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      Kun though

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    4. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Since you already have RVP, Aguero over Rooney. What about Torres?

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    5. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I'm wondering: the conventional wisdom is that Kun is (still?) #1 @ City?

      Huh.

      That said, I'd want some City, just in case they don't shrivel up and quit.

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        I know you admire Tevez but I still think Aguero is No.1 boy for Roberto.
        Out of Europe completely, I think he'll prob start 7 out of next 8 (ish)

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          Then you'd be crazy not to get him (Kun) ... I see City going on a run as they vent their anger/frustrations. Many goals to be scored.

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          1. RoysCallerAnne
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            • 15 Years
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            Thanks. Yeah, that's my thinking too (many goals)

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    6. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
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      Okay, thanks all.
      Aguero was the plan all along but after Rooney performance I was swaying that way.

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  24. Professor Abel X
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Play Sess at OT, or gamble on Bale's fitness? HRK to come off the bench (ARS)

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    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      And yes I did mean to call HRK an arse before someone really witty points it out

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    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      sess will only get you 2 points at OT

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    3. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Its worth a gamble on Bale especially if you have a backup 5th mid you're prepared to play

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        HRK is dodgy but I still think its worth it but wait till the last minute if you can

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    4. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Put Bale on and let Sess be first sub? OT defence isn't exactly solid so it isn't a terrible idea...

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      1. Professor Abel X
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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry should have been more clear, it's a FT to do Sess > Bale. I will assess after tomorrow

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        1. Paz12
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 1 month ago

          That should have been obvious...it is getting late...

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  25. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    The only thing that can save my GW is a 0-0 at the SOL.

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    1. BullDogTevez
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Man up, you're above the average score your GW don't need saving.

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      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        you should see the scores in my MLmate.

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  26. lfcserg
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Come on Berbatov, one goal + 3 BAPS will do and if you can be bothered score another one!

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  27. little_wizard123
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Without Ruiz, Berbatov is dropping deep so often. Duff and Rodallega are further forward than him most of the time, even Sidwell is further forward when they break!

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Nevertheless, he's had 2 great chances. Sidwell was looking to pick him out as well but the deflection ended up going into the goal.

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      1. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 1 month ago

        He did indeed, but playing that deep will definitely restrict his scoring. I didn't realise how deep he has been playing recently until I saw the first half.

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  28. floydy_floyd
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    A. Berb + skrtel (no more money or better pool def)
    B. Torres + Whittaker

    Could be a great great time to own Torres I'm thinking.

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    1. Revival
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      wait till after world club champs + lamps will be back taking pens

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  29. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    I have a theory that sheep gravs going to start to take over this site. It's only a matter of time...

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      Ryan (Southern hemisphere deadzone guy) has one already!

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    2. Paz12
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      lets do it

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  30. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 1 month ago

    Last year's 5-2 was 1-0 at half time. 6 goals in the second half! Some reassurance for Berbatov owners 🙂

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 1 month ago

      I should probably get him back soon!

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