Dugout Discussion
23 December 2012 3491 comments
Mark Mark
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Manani
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    very interesting cup tie.
    me: 4pts. vs torres.

    any guess who will win?

    not optimistic to be honest

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Wouldn't like to say. Torres assist and your out so unfortuantly i think your out pal.

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    2. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I think Torres will get something!

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    3. subzero
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      u r a goner mate

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  2. conew
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    why as I click on Michu, then on history, he is only 3 Yelow. I missed something?

    Any news why Clichy did not play in the match, and he was not even on the bench?

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      1 yellow in lg cup also?

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      another one in Micky Mouse Cup

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  3. FPL Touches
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Scores anyone? 50 + BAPs here...

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    1. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      56(-4) + Baps

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      51

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    3. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      56 (-4) + BPs

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    4. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Currently on 48 + BAPS + Mata + Torres 🙂 😉

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Barely any points pre-baps

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    6. Toonzie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      61

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    7. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      64

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        good GW Aqua.

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Cheers Ruk. Finally something going my way.

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    8. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      58

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    9. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      53 pre baps

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    10. Matt Sk
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      39 + bps

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    11. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      50 (-4)

      Poor.

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      1. bmb100
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Far better than 36(-4)

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    12. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      53 + baps
      all played

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    13. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      47 +Cech + Ramires/4

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    14. Jebiga
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      58 + baps

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    15. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      62 with Benteke left

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    16. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      53 all out

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    17. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      51 plus Matalicious

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    18. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      39 + Baker.

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    19. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      66 all out plus expecting around 9 baps.

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    20. NiceToMichu
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      37(-4) + BPs + Ivanovic + Hazard

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Jeez how come u make that kind of scored. I had Bego benched I lost 6-7pts. Does everyone had that decision right. 6-pts oh my, how is this happening

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    21. Super John McGinn-
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      60 pre baps

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    22. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      61 all out

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  4. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    1-1 in this game with random players scoring and assisting please!

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    1. Jebiga
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      +1

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  5. red beard
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    what to do with wayne rooney?

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    1. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Keep him. He had one bad game.

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      1. red beard
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        one bad game will bench him with the likes of welbeck n little pea around..

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          😆

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          1. red beard
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            making him first sub with pucheon and snodgrass infront of him..bold move but fergie will want to make a point too

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            1. heartsattack
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Good luck with that.

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  6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Mata

    CS
    Goal
    Assist
    3 Baps

    Please

    Thank you

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  7. matthewhagon
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Great shot to Van Persies head, must have felt great doing that

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        You must have a very small dick

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        1. matthewhagon
            12 years, 12 months ago

            oh dear

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            1. UnderstandablyDistraught
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Anybody who feels compelled to express what you did is a complete tool. You can "oh dear" all you like but you're still a tool.

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              1. matthewhagon
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Yeah you're right, a joke about someone kicking a ball into someones head.... youre the tool who has to use dick size as an insult, Jog on

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                  1. UnderstandablyDistraught
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    What was the "joke"? There was none. You're an asshole. Now F off

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                    1. matthewhagon
                        12 years, 12 months ago

                        Over reacting a little bit, but ok

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                        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
                          • 14 Years
                          12 years, 12 months ago

                          ok missy

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                          1. matthewhagon
                              12 years, 12 months ago

                              Ok sissy

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              2. gravless
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Too right.

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            2. mutatedllama
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Oh cool, just realised "my friend's" joke team captained Skrtel this week. http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2378824/event-history/18/

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              1. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                why use " "? Is he really your lover? 🙂

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            3. Jebiga
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              h2h duel :

              29 pts

              VS

              Cahill, Mata and Torres

              who wins ?

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              1. floydy_floyd
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                U have to favour the 29.

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                1. Jebiga
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  thats me, thanks 🙂

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            4. The Chosen One...
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Plzz Mata hat-trick.....

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              1. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                +1

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                1. PainInDiaz
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  +1

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              2. The Dark Knightt
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                +100

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            5. Mr Mz
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Bale or Silva?

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              1. floydy_floyd
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Im thinking of bale in for silva pitw

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              2. Super John McGinn-
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                I have both, but Bale

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            6. elkunaguero
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              RVP 3 shots, 0 on target
              Rooney 8 shots, 3 on target

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              1. Jebiga
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                RVP crossbar ???

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                1. Don Andres
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  The crossbar is not a target since you wouldn't get a goal by hitting it.

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                  1. Derailed Bandwagon
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    I know what you say is true, but technically you can score from hitting the cross bar.

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                    1. MattTheDamon
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Regardless, it's classed as off target,

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              2. RÏɠBY
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                a lot of roonpigs 'shots' were actually back passes to the goalie

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            7. DLL18
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Cup tie's gonna be close, my 50 + Mata vs his 52 + Hazard.

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              1. Matt Sk
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Mines on 39-39 he has Ivanovic left I hope for some Silva RVP bps :p

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            8. suarez07
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              the two times i've gone without RVP for a week, he hasn't scored! i'll let you guys when im taking him out in the future 😛

              Now just hoping my replacements of mata and torres have a brilliant game so i can consider myself a genius! (or a jammy git :D)

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            9. Nopli
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Mata and Torres Brace Coming up . 🙂
              Fasten your seat belts.
              Get ready for a bumpy ride

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            10. Vpan
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              A) Cazorla -> Mata

              B) Walcott -> Mata, Defoe -> Berba or Benteke -4

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              1. Call Me Old Fashioned
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                B with Benteke. I am likely to do that but getting rid of Berba

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            11. Viper
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Ohh, how that ball been kicked off RVP's head made me laugh 🙂

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              1. Balotellitubbies
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Knocked a few grey hairs out

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            12. BootlegRascal
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Got a 5 point lead over someone who has Mata

              #GoVilla

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              1. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                chelsea to win today. haven't won since 6th october v norwich.

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                1. Jax
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  at home i meant.

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            13. Jake Donahue
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              best mid for 4.5 next gw (must play)?

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              1. MattTheDamon
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Britton is a 2 point machine.

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            14. conew
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              once again

              why as I click on Michu, then on history, he is only 3 Yelow. I missed something?

              Any news why Clichy did not play in the match, and he was not even on the bench

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              1. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                league cup yellow.

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              2. PainInDiaz
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Got booked once in the Cup game.

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              3. Alan The Llama
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                yellows in the cup count

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              4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                League cup i think

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              5. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Asked and answered.

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                1. King Eric, in America
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  You last posted this 4 fecking minutes ago, and received two answers.

                  Perhaps you ought to post again in 3 minutes, just to confirm.

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              6. elkunaguero
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Michu has one YC in the cup

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              7. conew
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                and what with Clichy?

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                1. Jax
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  injured

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            15. Sweatygoals
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              For a long time, I was actually cheering on the whole United team (not just RvP who was the only player in my FPL) because I wanted them to WIN so badly after what happened last year...My gosh please United FOCUS and WIN the TITLE back.

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              1. Sweatygoals
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                BTW, how many points do you guys have right now? 40 for me...

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                1. Viper
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  50 (-4)

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                2. Sweatygoals
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Can't believe I benched Michu and put Berba on

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                  1. floydy_floyd
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Y bench michu Eva :shocked:

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                  2. Sweatygoals
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    I need Mata to save my GW, I'm gradually losing my lead between 2nd place...from 40 to 30 to 20 to now- just 10 point gap.

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                    1. Sweatygoals
                      • 13 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Someone mind giving Rafa a call and tell him to immediately order Juan to take all corners, free kicks and penalties. When Juan gets me 30 points, I'll have a glass of wine with Rafa my good ol' mate.

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            16. Viper
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Need Mata & Ivanovic to score less than 24 points between them to go through in the cup..

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              1. Acquafresca
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                I need Torres Cech and Ferreira to score less than 31 😉

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              2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Sorry mate, you're out 😉

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                1. Viper
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Could well happen 🙂

                  Ivanovic 15 pointer, Mata with a goal and 2 baps

                  Very possible 🙂

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              3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Dead team with Gerrard(c) and gonna see me off in round 1 🙁

                You will be very unlucky to go out

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                1. Viper
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  It is just complete luck those H2H's

                  In the twitter H2H I am 3rd bottom in a 20 team league but have the 2nd most points!

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                  1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Yeah i quit doing H2H's a while ago. Can't stand them

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            17. Sting
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Shame Moses and Luiz are both 0.5m too much

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            18. Jax
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              villa beat chelsea at the bridge 3-1 last season. i see it being reversed this season...

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            19. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Now I have held Berbs for so long and got his good spell and now the lean spell I think I shall hold to the bitter end.

              At least he's nailed on and will get a nice haul eventually?

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              1. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                berb goal v southampton at home. it will happen.

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              2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Got to keep now for these 2 home games. Plus is there really any other alternatives that appeal that much? 'm struggling to find someone to replace Ba if i sell

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                1. Viper
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Benteke

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                  1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    I was looking at him but Spurs are looking a bit more solid defensively. I'll see how he looks this afternoon. But i'm not convinced he will outscore Ba in GW19 let alone Berba at home to Southampton

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              3. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Same boat. Sticking, myself.

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            20. floydy_floyd
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              *moves captaincy to michu*

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              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Hmmm...I don't fancy it

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                1. floydy_floyd
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Severe lack of options for me this week.

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              2. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                reading away will be tough but they do have a shoddy defence even if they were 30 seconds away from drawing at the champions.

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                1. Just Ruud
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Will be a totally different game to city away, they need to win badly, them attacking should allow Swansea to pick them off.

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            21. Jax
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              scholes has 99 yellows in the premier league.

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              1. gravless
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Most overrated player EVER.

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                1. King Eric, in America
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Among the most ridiculous comments, *ever*

                  CAPS are overrated. Asterisks, ftw.

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                2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  You get better every week

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                3. OPTA FPL
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  😯 are you drunk?

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                4. Granville
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Maverick.

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              2. OPTA FPL
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                is it a joke??

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            22. Live4pool
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              58 pre bonus with 1 left to play

              c'mon benteke! put a cherry on my ice cream!

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            23. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Think about these Budweiser Christmas ads, they never show the person after they actually take a drink from it, probably because it looks like http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qDdnwPOuokU/TxNMk4iUxFI/AAAAAAAAAoI/HyLL3sHS4jg/s200/clint-eastwood-disgusted-gif.gif

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              1. Somalion
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                *Thing

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            24. Nani R U OK? R U OK ? R U O…
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Torres Time

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