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The Numbers Game – The Charge From the Back

18 February 2011 1140 comments
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With a break from Premier League action this weekend, we’re presented with some breathing space to allow us to take stock and assess strategies for success for the remaining Gameweeks.

This season has seen the evolution of template midfields and attacks with the same names rotation across thousands of Fantasy squads. As a result the defence has become a key area for differentials and while clean sheets have been hard to come by all season, the quest for defenders who can return attacking points and Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Bonus, remains a key one.

In this latest Numbers Game article for Members, we take a look at the Gameweek OPTA statistics gathered over the past four Gameweeks to analyse those defenders who have offered the best potential in these areas.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. FBA
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Does anyone know how long Tim Cahill will remain protected for? I want to transfer VDV (£8.6m) for Tim Cahill (£8.9m), and I have precisely 0.3m in the bank.

    I don't like doing my transfers until the night before the GW begins, just in case they get injured/ill/kidnapped etc. Can anyone reassure me that I'm OK to wait until next Friday to make this transfer, or should I just do it tonight once I know Cahill has got through the Chelsea game unscathed?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      In my rough, and so far untested theory, he has two days to go before his protection is removed. But I'm not fully au fait with this yet.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      Just leave it until he surprisingly goes up and you can join the long tradition if this and other sites of people saying,"I had enough and then he went up""I thought he was protected" 🙂

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        *Of this*

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    3. 4-4-who?
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      Good call; Everton are flying aren't they...

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      1. FBA
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        Yeah, like you, they are flying the flag in the bottom half of the table.

        Look at their upcoming fixtures and thank me later.

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    4. Lizard-fantasy
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

      VDV has 4 days left....doesn't mention Cahill on it

      Get him in tonight our join the i dont have enough money club 🙁

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  2. rasher
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    Why the hell did nani get 0 bonus last weekend? I was out all weekend so didn't see what people were saying bit I watched the match and thought he was uniteds best player and with a goal and assist to his name should have been a shoe-in for 2 or 3

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      No bonus + dubious assist = about right. 🙂

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      Because in general the people who award Bonus Points don't really know what they are doing. It works both ways though as sometimes my players get BPs when they really shouldn't have done.

      Still, they need to sort it for next season so it's less of a lottery and more down to good picks.

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      1. rasher
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        yeah I can complain because I've had players that got bonus and didn't really deserve them, but rooneys 2 bonus was mad he didn't do anything except that wonder goal, yeah hope they sort it out next year

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    3. Louis Van Balls
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      He was UTD's best player and should have received 3 BP. I hope that the bonus points sstem is scrapped next season. Perhaps a MOTM award is sufficient. FPL game needs to be more challenging...

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      1. Screaming Midget
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        I think Rooney got BPs? Only due to the goal - he did next to nothing for 89 minutes, lol. I don't think the judges watch the games, maybe they go off stats?

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        1. 4-4-who?
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          I've heard that goals are quite useful in the Premier League...

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  3. pompeyfan
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    In the fantasy cricket if you have Sehwag captain I presume you should still change your captain to a player playing next and you still benefit from double Sehwags points?

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  4. Screaming Midget
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    For those sending VDV out, do you plan on bringing him back in?

    I think the right decision is keeping him, in that Spurs have some superb fixtures coming up; but; if his price were to drop say .2 I wouldn't lose that much on him, so the decision to take him out would be more understandable.

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    1. Louis Van Balls
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      Depending on fitness, I'll likely bring back one of VDV or Bale after GW28.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      At the moment I would lose .4 on VDV and with other plans it could leave me just short on bringing him back even if he'goes down another .2 So he stays in for me.

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    3. Nomar
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      I took him out with my wildcard last week and got Lennon for Spurs dgw coverage.

      That was an epic fail, so I'll be getting VdV back in GW29.

      The Cahill to VdV switch is popular because they are virtually the same price so getting VdV back afterwards isn't an issue and you can do it in one move.

      If I had VdV now though I'm not sure I'd get rid for Cahill. Not convinced we're going to see the same returns from him that we were getting before he left for the Asian Cup.

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  5. Demí
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    Finally another Man United player on twitter:

    Luis Nani guys : http://twitter.com/#!/luisnani

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    1. Hank
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      Noice!

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
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      Cool, Ronaldo is welcoming him on board too 🙂

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  6. tosey
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    Cech, Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole. Mikel, Ramires, Lampard, Kalou, Drogba, Malouda

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    1. Louis Van Balls
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      I think Everton could get a result today.

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      1. tosey
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        i did them each way for the cup at start season so i hope so

        although itd fook me up for fantasy footy with no utd players

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        1. Louis Van Balls
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          I'm a bit surprised you have NO UTD players. Not even Nani?

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          1. tosey
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            i did up until 2 weeks ago

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      2. Gargamel
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        Easy win for Chelsea I think

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
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          -1

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        2. 4-4-who?
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          +1 Drogba brace 2-0

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  7. tosey
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    Howard, Neville, Distin, Jagielka, Baines, Coleman, Fellaini, Cahill, Arteta, Osman, Beckford

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    1. Louis Van Balls
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      Moyes was not a happy man after the last match. Everton should be fired up for this one!

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  8. Gargamel
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    Anyone got some good info on today's matches in the championship? Looking for a couple of potential upsets there, anyone?

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    1. Louis Van Balls
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      I think Norwich could get an upset away at Leeds. The Cardiff-Forest game should be a cracking match!

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      1. Nomar
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Preston v QPR?
        Top v Bottom doesn't always go as planned.

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          Oldham, Charlton.

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          1. Locarno
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            Charlton to get upset by Exeter??? Maybe in some parallel universe...

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              No that was bet on each of those. I'm not that silly. 🙂

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              1. Locarno
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                Ahhh... makes more sense. Think we'll tonk Exeter by three or four. £5 day so the Valley will be packed.

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                1. In Like Flynn.
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                  I hope my bet doesn't bok them. Have fun.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      QPR 4/5 at Lads away to Preston Swansea 4/7 home to Doncs

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    3. Marknlard
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      My heart says Cardiff to be the first away team to win at Forest in the league for about 18 months…but that’s just hoping, so how about Sc*nthorpe to win? They beat (of all teams) Forest at home midweek, their first win at home since about Sep.

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    4. Gargamel
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      Thanks guys!

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  9. Louis Van Balls
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Bloody Saha is still injured. Where would Everton be right now in the EPL table if they had a top striker who was fit?

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    1. Gargamel
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      9th!

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    2. 4-4-who?
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      Everton could still go down - not used to fighting it out down the stretch...

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        lol

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    3. Mulder
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      18th

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  10. Hank
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    Bluuurgh. Ravel Morrison is a nasty piece of work.

    http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1408668_manchester_united_ace_ravel_morrison_escapes_jail_after_threatening_robbery_victim

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    1. Gargamel
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      What an idiot. Can't for my life understand how people like him works.

      Youth star at Manchester United? Nah, let's be a small time criminal instead.

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      1. Hank
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        Exactly, boggles the mind really.

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      "nasty piece of work" apparently covers a wide multitude of sins. From disagreeing on a football forum to mugging and intimidation.
      What a flexible term.

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      1. Hank
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        Yawn.

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Indeed

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    3. Onwards
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      "A United spokesman said: "The club does not in any way condone Ravel’s actions, but he is a very talented player with a bright future ahead of him. The right thing to do now is to support him and help him in the process of his rehabilitation.""

      In other words, if he was crap he'd have been sent packing. Not sure that's the right statement to be putting out. They could've at least worded it better.

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      1. Marknlard
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        Fair point.

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      2. Hank
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        I agree. I think the club know if he does anything like this again, the court will send him down, so it will be taken out of their hands anyway. I'm just amazed a player who has made the first team (albeit for 1 min!) can get away with doing this kind of thing without SAF knowing about it. Remember he used to go to the clubs Giggs and co were at in the early 90s to check on them! SAF raving away in the hacienda. 😀

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        1. Marknlard
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          I can't believe a player who's played one minute gets called a 'Man Utd Ace'!

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          1. Hank
            • 15 Years
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            True that. What's pretty sinister by M.E.N is that the article could have been published 3 weeks ago on Morrison's 18th Bday. They waited until he'd be in the match day squad to drop it. Lovely ol' media.

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    4. _Freddo
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Vile story, he will be Burnley or Hull's problem in a year or two anyway.

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  11. Nomar
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Are there any food to go discount vouchers for tonight?

    Wouldn't mind a cheap takeout later if its on offer.

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  12. In Like Flynn.
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    Come On Chelsea! Not something I say often,but no Chelsea game and one Man UTD GW28 would help a lot. What does anyone else want?

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    1. Marknlard
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      No Chelsea in GW28 please!

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      1. Demí
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        +1

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    2. Waldaz
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      And two Chelsea doubles later, yes please!

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        A few weeks to get their players in when hopefully back on form. 🙂

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    3. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Man Utd DGW in 28 if Everton win? Not sure how it works.

      In work now anyway so doesn't matter anyway as I can't follow the games.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
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        That's how it's set.

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  13. Attila the Bum
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    http://www.kissmyarsenal.co.uk/news_story.php?id=45719

    All time League Table by average position (from the late 1880's - present day). Interesting stuff, Newcastle are a safe 8th (above Chelsea), and Everton a lofty 3rd.

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      • 15 Years
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      Weird it won't link the specific article, so if you want to see the table scroll down to Top Posts and it's there.

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    2. Gargamel
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Looks more like an article about Arsenal vs Barcelona to me

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Yeah it links strangely, sorry.

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      2. Gargamel
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        Found it. Interesting stuff, in one way.

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          I'm pretty sure in thinking that Arsenal and Everton have never been relegated in their history so that will obviously help their placing.

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          1. Gargamel
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah once you're relegated you'll obviously be stuck for a whole season below place 20, making your average fall massively. Not being relegated is of course a great achievement too.

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    3. Namtab Nomolos
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      This one is based on points http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/all-time-table check out Burnley's goal difference compared to everone else after over 4,500 games their GD is -1 🙂

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        • 15 Years
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        Down to 14th there! Lolz at Chelsea in 26th though. 🙂
        Was it always three points for a win?

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
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          That's a good point and probably why Man United are top, they've won more 3 point win games than anyone else I'd expect.

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          No two points for a win in the middle ages. none for draw at one time I think.

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    4. Get up ya bum
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      Liverpool 1st. Utd 8th 😀

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  14. The Stock
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    Seeehhhwag!

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Sat there last night - Sehwag or Dhoni for skipper. No prizes for guessing which way I went.

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      1. Stat virgin
        • 16 Years
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        At least yo don't have Mr "I'll come in and deliberately only get singles and risk running myself out so Kohli can face in order to get his century then get out last ball getting me a total of -2 points x 2" Pathan as captain..

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Did you have him captain? I have him and Tendulkar and I picked the latter as (c) 😐

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      1. The Stock
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Such a shame - stupid run out and Sachin could have filled his boots.

        P.S. Morning all.

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    3. Boom!!!
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      Seeehhhwag is fat 😉

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  15. Hank
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone who liked "the wonders of the solar system" programme, this will make you chuckle...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhn8j7S4uKU

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    1. The Stock
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      Haha!

      one for the Masterchef fans as its back on our screens now:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjckqAU8IkM&feature=related

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      1. Namtab Nomolos
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        Aww, I was hoping that would be this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=towd9vZWDJg

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    2. Marknlard
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      That guy never stops grinning.

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      1. Hank
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        He loves his Physics.

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    3. applebonkers
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      he says the word f*** a lot. not sure that's enough to make it funny

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  16. Hank
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Football focus film on BAE.. jamsiep must be soiling himself in delight!

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Does he work in Aero Engineering? 🙂

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  17. Bigo1
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Coleman is so poor; strong possibility to see Billy starting in a near future imo

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      seems likely considering he's started the last 3

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      1. Bigo1
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        • 16 Years
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        I meant Osman and Billy on the wings from now on, Coleman on the bench

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          • 15 Years
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          Don't even think things like that.

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  18. Locarno
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Stupid tackle, but Mikel needs to grow a pair.

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  19. Evs
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    This game go to pens if all square aet?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Yep.

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    2. Boom!!!
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      yes.

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  20. applebonkers
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    say whaaaat! seh wag. i thought kohli looked more impressive but looks like sehwag MOTM. those 5 sixes will come in handy too

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  21. njfsdkffslkf
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    The cliched line from commentator that a foreign player doesnt want to come back on (Drogba)after an injury partly cos his wearing some warm clothing so he must not be "up for it"
    Pretty pathetic that this is still said at a football game in 2011. Andy Gray isnt the only one who should be out on his ear.

    Both teams look poor. Might not actually get a 3rd Eve player now.

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    1. Locarno
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      Aye, but he's right in Drogba's case. Biggest pussy in the sport.

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        Might be. But his clothing doesnt mean anything. Football is still stuck in the middle ages for the most part.

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        +1

        Absolute scummer

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
      • 15 Years
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      Wish I could afford Baines. Coleman will have to do.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      Got my three in a couple of weeks ago,may live to regret it.Never mind nothing ventured.

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  22. Akers
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    JT slips again.

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    1. Hank
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      hehe, i was thinking exactly the same thing.

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  23. Namtab Nomolos
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    Jagielka hits the post! Luckily for him it doesn't go in for another own goal.

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  24. Locarno
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    Fellaini will go in the summer. He's looking more and more frustrated every game.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I thought his passing was poor last game,don't know if the stats confirm that.

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
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        He never seems to have anyone to pass it to, which can't help...

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  25. Locarno
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    Lamps. World-class.

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    1. Locarno
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      *need a sarcasm emoticon

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  26. Akers
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    Drogba is clearly injured.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Oh dear,how sad,never mind.

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  27. Gargamel
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    • 16 Years
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    That's a very poor miss imo. So much time and the pass isn't hard either.

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    1. Locarno
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      Aye. Arshavin would have buried it. 🙂

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  28. Bumbaclot
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    hi guys, any news on rio's injury? will he be back for wigan on sat?

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  29. Mulder
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    How is Cahill not booked yet that rat

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  30. Gargamel
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    • 16 Years
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    What's the logic behind the rule that makes players cup tied really? Is it really a good rule in all honesty?

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    1. Akers
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      In a word, yes.

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        Hmmm. All right then. Seems like a bit of an unnecessary rule to me tbh

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