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Resilient. Obstinate. You knew what to expect from Everton under David Moyes. The dictionary definition of “dogged”, the Toffees possessed a will-to-win and determination to battle for every ball that made them a tough nut to crack.

Last season, they lost fewer games in front of their own fans than any side in the Premier League and dropped a mere two points in the final eight games at Goodison. On the road, Everton conceded just 23 times – only City and Arsenal registered a more impressive tally in the goals against column.

With Moyes hot-footing it to United, Everton are bracing themselves for a brand new approach this season. The installation of Roberto Martinez to the Goodison hotseat has Fantasy managers eyeing up Everton’s assets in an entirely different light – the Spaniard’s expansive passing game, either in a 3-4-3 or 4-3-3, suggests out of position possibilities we’ve previously overlooked. There’s no doubt his football is pretty on the eye, yet Wigan slid into the Championship with the joint-worst defensive record in the Premier League last season – 73 times their backline was breached in 2012/13.

In our final Burning Question article, our contributors ponder whether we’re getting a little carried away by Martinez’ installation to the Goodison hotseat….

Paul says….
When you consider the lack of funds Martinez had available to him during his time at the DW, you have to applaud his achievements rather than focus on the negatives. Wigan were hammered by injuries to a number of key defenders over the final few months of last term – the absence of too many first-team regulars finally took their toll. Yet still, they finished the season with silverware; something Moyes never managed on a far bigger budget.

Our initial expectations of a shift to 3-4-3 may need reining in, though. The Toffees have started all but one of their pre-season games with a four-man backline – whether Martinez will gradually change the system when his players become accustomed to his approach only time will tell but for now, his penchant for a front three definitely looks good news for Kevin Mirallas. The Belgian’s classification as a midfielder across the Fantasy games hands us a strong out of position option for 2013/14 and makes up for Marouane Fellaini’s move to a more withdrawn role after the Belgian racked up the points in “the hole” in Moyes’ 4-4-1-1 last time.

Elsewhere, Leighton Baines will surely remain the same, reliable option on the left and should still hog most set-pieces, corners and spot-kicks, while Seamus Coleman looks a viable option at 5.0 even if Martinez fails to switch him to the right of midfield and mainly utilises him as a right-back.

In terms of pricing, last season’s top two performers, Baines and Fellaini, will set you back 16.0 in Fantasy Premier League; Mirallas and Coleman combined are 12.5. Essentially, this makes it easier to take a punt and back your gut if you’re caught up in the optimism brought on by Martinez’ arrival. Value-wise, at least, I’d expect the latter pair to prove a better investment the end of the campaign, with Mirallas stepping up under his new manager’s attacking approach and perhaps even outscoring Fellaini’s overall exploits from last year.

In Tommy We Trust Says…
No, quite the opposite when you evaluate the underlying statistics from the 3-4-3 system deployed during his time at Wigan. Defensively, player errors were consistently higher than the league average. This can be attributed to two main factors; the calibre of Wigan’s backline options wasn’t the greatest and the system itself can isolate a less-than-fluent passer of the ball at centre-half. Both these factors can be reduced, if not erased, with Everton already owning good ball players at the back who have the pace to recover from individual mistakes.

Going forward, the system is based on good possession, with intricate passing, creating space. Everton already have these players in abundance with the likes of Leon Osman, Darron Gibson and Steven Pienaar coming to mind. What Martinez was frustrated about last season was the lack of goals from midfield in his Wigan side – this may well be remedied by the likes of Marouane Fellaini ghosting into the box. When you look at the Everton squad, the player personnel is already well-suited to Martinez’s system with Pienaar taking the Shaun Maloney role and Kevin Mirallas the inverted winger, while Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman are expected to be handed the wing-back roles. All could have a bumper points total come the end of the season.

Next you have to look at the character of Martinez himself. He is a winner, whether it was at Wigan or in his Swansea days. The man knows how to take the players at his disposal and get the best out of the skills available to him. This can only help Fantasy point totals. He is also someone who doesn’t like to rotate and, crucially, is one of the most reliable managers around when it comes to his starting XI.

The last thing to consider is the potential value on offer by some Everton players this season. If a 3-4-3 becomes the default formation, Mirallas, Baines and Coleman will all be out of position, while new signing Arouna Kone is nicely priced. Let’s not forget that value is fundamental to this game so even with an average campaign in Martinez’s first season, the price and position assigned to some Everton players make them assets worthy of investment.

Applebonkers says….
I think it’s harsh to judge Martinez off the back of Wigan’s relegation. You also have to take into account his full tenure and successful time at Swansea. The Everton defence is being written off in some quarters due to Wigan’s poor clean sheet record but, to put it bluntly, the Toffees have far stronger backline options than Wigan. Antolin Alcaraz, for example, improved the Latics’ defensive record dramatically when injury-free last season, yet he may struggle to break into the starting line-up unless they play a back-three.

Holding onto Marouane Fellaini will surely be vital. His move to a deeper position should strengthen the defensive quality of the midfield so, even if there is any merit to the theory that Martinez’s more cavalier cojones may lessen their resilience, the Belgian’s installation in the engine room should balance matters.

I tend to sub-consciously put a value on defences. For example, Man City and Man United I think of as 6.5 backlines, the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal are 6.0 defences and Everton, in the next bracket, are a 5.5 defence. Therefore Seamus Coleman at 5.0 appeals even without an attacking threat – when you then consider he rivalled Leighton Baines for assist threat in the second half of last season, then he’s definitely worth considering.

Green Windmill says…
As a longstanding Newcastle fan, I’ve witnessed more false dawns than a Vicar of Dibley lookalike contest, so I should be able to spot one by now. Everton, in my view, are in for a difficult season. There’s no doubt in my mind that under David Moyes they were consistently greater than the sum of their parts and Roberto Martinez is going to have his work cut out trying to maintain those standards. Despite this, it may not be all bad news for us Fantasy managers – many are anticipating a more gung-ho approach from Everton this year because as frail as they were defensively, Martinez’s Wigan adopted a much more expansive style when in possession.

It’s worth noting though that whilst Wigan’s defensive record was a horror show, Martinez’s time in charge of Swansea was a different story. The Swans were promoted to the Championship with the fourth meanest defence in the division and the following season were again in the top five performing teams in terms of goals against. There remains the possibility, therefore, that when presented with the right players, Martinez can organise a team which is harder to break down than some (including myself) might expect.

In short, whilst I don’t expect Everton to struggle, I also don’t expect to see them challenging for Europe as they did every year under Moyes. As a result I’ll be starting the season with a watching brief, hoping I haven’t seriously underestimated Roberto Martinez.

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  1. Martin.S
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    RMT

    Krul - Vorm

    Ivanovic - Toure - Coleman - Chester - Ward

    Hazard - Walcott - J. Morrison - Tonev - Kim

    RVP - Sturridge - Lambert

    Any help massively appreciated!

    I'm too drunk for this

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    1. OShaughnessy
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Step 1. Smile at your side because of a job well done.
      Step 2. Turn off computer before you do something drunk.
      Step 3. Grab a night cap.

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      1. Martin.S
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        thanks! im hope you're right!

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  2. OShaughnessy
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Folks,
    I'm tossing & turning here trying to get to sleep but, I need some input from the echo chamber...

    Silva & Tonev
    or
    Mirallas & J. Morrison

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    1. Jude Rooney
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      A

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    2. Cesc's old mullet
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      A

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    3. Absinthe 42
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      Depends if Tonev/Morrison is your 5th mid or not.

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      1. OShaughnessy
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        • 13 Years
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        Tonev is my 4th midfielder. Gulp.
        Walcott, Hazard, Silva, Tonev & Cabral
        Walcott, Harzard, Mirallas, J Morisson & Cabral

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  3. @FuzzyWarbles
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Being that of the three DGWers that I have, Lukaku is the least nailed on, he seems the one to drop for GW2. Anyone have a good replacement. Lambert or Jrod seem logical.

    Even if prononuced fully fit, is Remy too dodgy to bring in for GW2? really would like to take advantage of those GW2-5 fixtures.

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    1. jimski
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      I guess Cisse is an option, but you'll need a spare 0.5.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        rather take the best looking Saint and preserve the squad i have. no more tinkering.

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    2. Jinswick
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      • 15 Years
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      I'm looking at Dzeko, Lambert or JRod myself. Also toying with leaving 1m in the bank to give me options in case Negredo looks like a must have.

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    3. tw
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      wait and see who the bandwagons are after gw 1? for all we know Bony could be this year's michu. or Altidore

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        and Jinswick as well,

        those are all good shouts, worth monitoring. just wanted to feel like I had some options.

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    4. Touré De Force
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      If he's fit, go for it. Watch out for Gouffran as well, he might get a lot more game time than people are expecting..

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        I dont really rate Gouffran much. Of course, cue a brace. But I just wouldnt have confidence starting him for a 4 week stretch.

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    5. Billy Gilmore
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      The Citeh striker of choice.

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    6. Absinthe 42
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      All depends on what you plan to do with the cash from the other Chelsea you need to drop.

      I have three transfers planned to raise the cash for RVP for GW4, so are you planning anything like that or simply going to spend as much as the 8m as you fancy at the time?

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  4. Jinswick
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Are peeps leaving cash in the bank for Lukaku's upgrade in GW2? If so how much?

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    1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
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      You won't want to get rid of him by gw2

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      1. Jinswick
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        mun, blank is about as bad as it gets. Even if he bags a hat-trick in GW1 he is my most likely player to go

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        1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
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          Jose's in, Moyes is cacking himself. Jose's going to send Lukaku out to show that mun defence what a spanking is.

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          1. Absinthe 42
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            12 years, 5 months ago

            After his hat trick against them, I suspect he has to be involved in that game. Way more of a threat away from home at Old Trafford than Ba or Torres would be. So I expect to see him benched against Villa in preparation.

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    2. Cesc's old mullet
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      1.5 so I can upgrade him to Sturridge or Soldado

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  5. Sld84
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please.

    Mannone boruc

    Dawson toure turner(nor) Collins turner

    Couthino hazard Walcott mirallas 4.5m

    RVP lukaku Anelka

    I could swap toure for Chester and get michu instead of mirallas.

    Any thoughts??

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  6. Cak Juris
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Who is your riskiest pick in GW1?
    I have 3 doubtful player (Collins, Shaw and Walcott) and Ravel Morrison. My luck will talk.....

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    1. Psakhotherapy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Collins, Wally for me too...do we have any definite word on them?

      Thinking of a last minute 'coward's switch' to Coleman & Michu

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  7. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    For those after some leagues/competitions to join.

    http://Www.torresmagic.webs.com/leaguecodes.htm

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    1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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      Just 5 & 3/4 hrs to go !

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  8. Mr. Greedy
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Negredo or Benteke?

    I've gone for Negredo for the following reasons:

    1) I expect that Tekkers will score 8 points this GW. I will then have to ditch him so 8 - 4 = 4, which I believe Negredo can beat.

    2) Negredo is a new signing by a new manager and therefore likely to start the season in the team. I think he will be upfront with Dzeko this match. Dzeko will then be replaced by Aguero in the 2nd half. GW2 I can see being Aguero and Negredo.

    3) I considered getting Tekkers and waiting a week to see what happened with City but I think NEW is quite an easy fixture for City and I don't want to miss out on the points.

    4) If it goes wrong Plan B is Lukaku -> Dzeko GW2

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    1. royals forever
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      • 16 Years
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      That's good reasoning

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    2. ccc
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      benteke

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    3. JUNITED
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      12 years, 5 months ago

      The real question is Negredo or Soldado.

      I pick Negredo ahead of Benteke. Can't see Benteke will score a lot against Arsenal and Chelsea in away games.

      What I like from Negredo he has 150 shots last season in La Liga which is very dangerous striker. Not to mention BPs.

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      1. Mr. Greedy
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        12 years, 5 months ago

        I've got both.

        Negredo, Lukaku, Soldado

        Missing out on RVP, Giroud or Sturridge.
        Think RVP is overpriced.
        Giroud is a bit rubbish and went for Coutinho instead of Studge in the end.

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        1. Jinswick
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Hmmm, this has me thinking....

          I'm with Silva & Sturridge at the moment, but not overly convinced.

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          1. Mr. Greedy
            • 16 Years
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            I'm not really a Silva fan, only involved in 25% of City's goals and might play out wide.

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        2. JUNITED
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          Good strikers there.
          No need to change.

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  9. Kompany Man
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    How risky does Sigurdsson seem as long as Bale stays out? He looks solid for this weekend but people talk about switching to a 4-3-3 without him as well as Holtby possibly taking his role. Not sure if I should risk having him in my team. Your thoughts?

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  10. tw
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    hey guys, join me in making a team for the dead team league (code 241-383153)

    rules are simple: make a second account (shhh), set up your team before the deadline, and never touch it again. we'll see who can make the best team for the course of the season without changing it. and who knows, it might even outscore your main team 😉

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      just made a team!

      with Downing as sub, so hope one of my front 7 won't play today!

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  11. dkny07
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    This is the team that you will all be trailing after GW1

    Foster (Boruc)
    Cole Toure Reid (Shaw Turner)
    Hazard Walcott Coutinho Miralles (Cabrall)
    Soldado Dzeko Lukaku

    Best advice I can give you all is to copy that or risk getting left behind.

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    1. Absinthe 42
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      12 years, 5 months ago

      A lesson in how to endear yourself to the community.

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      1. dkny07
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        You're welcome mate.
        Can give you my GW2 transfers if you like when the time comes.

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  12. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    REPOST

    Best 5.0 def?

    My defence is

    Migs - Mannone

    Cole - Ward - Clyne - Brayford - ?

    and is Brayford a good choice or not?

    THANKS

    Someone said Kolo but I have Migs

    a) Billy Jones

    b) Kolo Toure

    c) Reid

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    1. Cesc's old mullet
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Reid for the first few GW

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    2. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I have Kolo & Migs. Best defence in the league, double up and fill your boots.

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  13. jimski
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Who else has a 4.0 keeper? If so, which? Main issue is to avoid any price drop before wildcard after GW3 deadline.

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      gone with jankupovic from hull

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      1. Carl@streetkids.com.au
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        To preserve the price drop?

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    2. Psakhotherapy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Daniels was the least attractive i could find

      (least attractive = least likely to be shipped in numbers in early weeks)

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Rudd

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        😆

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    4. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      price for me

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    5. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Rudd, he's red flagged

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Is there any that is a legit second choice that isn't in the high ownership likes of Given and Davis?

        What about Price at Palace?

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        1. ccc
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          that's why I went with price, 1% ownership and a slight chance of minutes perhaps.

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          1. jimski
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            All the early wildcarders at FFS should go with the same one. None of us will needlessly sell. Strength in numbers....

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    6. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I've gone Davis, but mainly because my other GK is Boruc and trying to cover the scenario that Boruc gets injured more than any 0.1m price drop (which I think is unlikely for a GK over the first few weeks)

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        I might just go Davis actually, as there's some small chance he gets a game, and he'll need quite a few people to ditch him in two gameweeks to drop.

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  14. alang
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Take it A cole is most nailed on che defender?

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Terry started nearly all pre-season

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
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      Probably although I have convinced myself that Ivan will start both games.

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  15. King Nemanja
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    My final decision to be made. Any thoughts?

    Boruc and Kompany

    or

    Hart and Shaw

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    1. MegaSalviO
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I would go Boruc and Kompany. Boruc will get more save points than Hart and Kompany will probably score more attacking points than Shaw.

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  16. ccc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Well this is my second season. I feel much better than when I started the first, which means I will probably suffer from second season syndrome. Thanks for the help. Good night/morning and good luck.

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  17. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Who would you pick for the first few GWs

    Soldado or Negrano

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Soldado

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  18. Big Sami says: Sack Beni!
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    RMT please

    migs
    baker kolo zabs
    coutinho silva downing haz(c) mata
    lukaku benteke

    anelka reid ward

    And downing is a season keeper, just to remind.

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  19. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Best option to plug the gaps here?

    a) Kos & Collins
    b) Zaba & Chester

    Boruc, Davis
    Terry, xxx, Toure, xxx, Ward

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    1. Flying Nugget
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'd go B. Collins a doubt and Chester could be a decent shout for a cleanie in week 2

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    2. jimski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Been talk on City forums that Richards might play. I doubt it, but it makes Zaba a slight risk.

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  20. Touré De Force
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Only 5 players playing today :/

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  21. alang
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Nolan and giroud

    Or

    Anelka and coutinho?

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    1. Touré De Force
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      First one.

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  22. Mr Smith
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all, how exciting!

    Question for the early risers, which option is best of the following:

    A). Mignolet, Koncielny, Lescott

    or

    B). Szczesny, Toure, Zabaleta

    ?

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 15 Years
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      Less doubts over B

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      1. Mr Smith
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        Think you are right there, time to play safe.

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  23. toxik
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Mig (Boruc)
    Toure Lescott Ivanovic (Collins Turner)
    Wilshere Mirallas Hazard Courtinho (c) (Tonez)
    Negredo Soldado Lukaku (v)

    Good to go???

    Worried about double Liverpool defence and Negredo starting

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  24. andres
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Guys, please help...

    A jedinak + reid
    B kim + collins

    Kim woul be benched most of the time while reid would play..

    Thx

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  25. Psakhotherapy
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    anyone got an idea of who's most likely to play from;

    Collins, Clyne, Shaw?

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    1. Mr Smith
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Collins for sure, not even sure he has a real injury.

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      1. Psakhotherapy
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        thanks, hope you're right as it's pushing down his ownership!

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    2. Jafalad
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      Shaw.

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    3. Absinthe 42
      • 14 Years
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      Collins or Shaw. Clyne seems to be another week away.

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  26. royals forever
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    A

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  27. Touré De Force
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    Excellent John Terry analysis posted earlier this morning:

    'For everyone that worry about the game time for John Terry at new Mourinho era due to his old age (32 years old), just give you some information that both Inter Milan main center back pairs Lucio and Walter Samuel was 32 years old when Inter Milan got treble under Mourinho. Lucio played 46 games and Samuel played 42 games for that season. Inter Milan captain, Javier Zanetti (37 years old at that time) played 55 games (whole games) in the that season.So, I think Terry will play very important role for this season......'

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    1. Mr. Greedy
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      Oh gosh, just when I was settled on Ivan...

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  28. I am 42
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    good morning
    Thomas is injured
    any 4.5 mid to recommend?
    thanks

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    1. Touré De Force
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      Derek Boateng, Fulham

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    2. jimski
      • 14 Years
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      I'm looking at Grandin or Jedinak from Palace (see below).

      There's also the riskier likes of Barkley or Ravel Morrison.

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    3. I am 42
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      thanks both

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  29. jimski
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Grandin or Jedinak?

    I'm really asking the big, important questions this morning! 🙂

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    1. bdwhite91
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      I've gone with Jedinak

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      1. jimski
        • 14 Years
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        Any particular reason?

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  30. Demelbrush
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Having last minute nerves. Need I?

    Boruc Foster
    Coleman Cole Toure Chester Brayford
    Wally Hazard Mirrallas Kim Williams
    Lukaku RVP Dzeko

    Cheers.

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