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19 August 2013 3325 comments
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The Gameweek continues with a Monday night encounter under the lights of the Etihad, as Manuel Pellegrini begins his tenure at City with a Premier League clash with Newcastle.

The Chilean’s first team-sheet was much anticipated and, when it arrived, it brought one major surprise. A 4-4-2 looks on the cards with Edin Dzeko rewarded for his strong summer displays with a start up front, although few expected him to be alongside Sergio Aguero. The Argentine missed the entire pre-season but is given the nod ahead of new signing Alvaro Negredo who warms the bench – there is no place for fellow new boy, Stevan Jovetic.

Behind those two, City have David Silva and Jesus Navas prompting from the flanks, with Yaya Toure and Fernandinho screening the back four, whilst no doubt alternating to join the attack. That defence is without Matija Nastasic through injury, so Joleon Lescott earns a start alongside skipper Vincent Kompany, as expected. Gael Clichy is at left-back, while Pablo Zabaleta, fresh from inking new four-year deal, starts on the right.

It’s a daunting task for Alan Pardew’s Magpies who turn up in Manchester without Yohan Cabaye following today’s £10 million bid from Arsenal. Yoan Goufran starts, then, with Jonas Gutierrez presumably shifting to a central role and Mousa Sissoko pushed up in support of striker Papiss Cisse – a 4-2-3-1 looks the likely formation. Mapou Yanga-Mbiwai starts for the injured Davide Santon at left-back, with Steven Taylor keeping his start alongside skipper Fabricio Coloccini.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom has opened up for tonight’s match to cater for those who like some real-time chatter with their evening’s action.

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  1. FPL Daniel
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    Ok half time show. This made me laugh. Please check this Walcott picture

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p75x225/1209045_10151785367376066_1252963373_n.jpg

    I loled aaaaaaahahahahah 😆

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    1. LewanGOALski
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      😀

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      pffft! 😛

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    3. DonTheSpecialOne
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      😀

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    4. FC Tinker
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      😀

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    5. Mr Sarcastic
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      🙂

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    6. Tim Canterbury
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      And Cabaye isn't going to fix it either. Last thing they needed, another showy midfielder

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    7. ccc
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      😆

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  2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
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    Is dzeko guna b a season keeper or rotation wonder?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      The guy with the time machine usually comes on in 10 minutes. Post again then 😉

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      1. thetinkerman
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        That was a bit harsh, it was a fair question.

        I reckon he'll be rotated, but it's whether it's worth the stress! At 7.5m, it's not the end of the world if he only plays 2 or three out of every 5 games with sub appearances.

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    2. Tommytour
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      Negredo won't stay benched

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    3. ccc
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      rotation imo

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    4. Bests Conquests
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      Rotation. Aguero and Negredo wit plenty of playing time. Pelle is also supposed to prefer a 4-2-3-1. I'd honestly rather have Lambert, Bony, RVW or someone else who will play 90.

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  3. fred1266
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    how come Dzeko hasn't gotten the assist for silva's goal

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    1. FISSH
      • 12 Years
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      because it came off the keeper/defender

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      1. fred1266
        • 15 Years
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        but Lennon got one for the penalty that game of the defenders hand

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        1. ccc
          • 13 Years
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          earned the penalty, which is an assist.

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          Assists are awarded to the player from the goal scoring team, who makes the final pass before a goal is scored. An assist is awarded whether the pass was intentional (that it actually creates the chance) or unintentional (that the player had to dribble the ball or an inadvertent touch or shot created the chance).

          If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded.

          Rebounds
          If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded.

          Own Goals
          If a player shoots or passes the ball and forces an opposing player to put the ball in his own net, then an assist is awarded.

          Penalties and Free-Kicks
          In the event of a penalty or free-kick, the player earning the penalty or free-kick is awarded an assist if a goal is directly scored, but not if he takes it himself, in which case no assist is given.

          Finalising Assists
          Assist points awarded by Opta within Fantasy Premier League are calculated using additional stats which may differ from other websites. For example, some other sites would not show an assist where a player has won a penalty.

          For the avoidance of doubt, points awarded in-game are subject to change up until one hour after the final whistle of the last match of any given day. Once the points have all been updated on that day, no further adjustments to points will be made

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          1. fred1266
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            thanks

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    2. Nice1Cyrille
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      "If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded."

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      1. fred1266
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        ok hope he scores second half am praying he does better then lambert who i initially had in my quad

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  4. Crouch Potato!
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    Such a stupid act by Taylor. Aguero is not tall to put it mildly, a simple headed clearance for him. Dumb to say the least.

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    1. ccc
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      unbelievable.

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  5. DiMatteoBandwagon
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    Hahahaha!! How good is listening to Carraghers analysis on sky sports 😀

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  6. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Why is everyone suddenly changing their whole team based on 45 mins? Dzeko, Negredo and Kun are still rotation risks!

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      But they have Cardiff Hull next

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        This. A GW4 wildcard is a viable tactic so it's worth the punt for those planning a WC

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        1. Tommytour
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          I'm all over that

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      2. ccc
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        still too much rotation risk for me at the moment. I need to asses the new manager's rotation policy and his true top XI

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  7. Egg noodle
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    Hahaahaa Carragher is awesome 😀

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    1. DiMatteoBandwagon
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      🙂 I can listen to him say Dzeko all day

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Such a squeaky voice! 😉

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  8. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Worth taking a hit tonight to catch player price rises?

    Or should i be more cautious and wait until later in the week?

    I am removing two Chelsea players.

    Terry > Shaw

    and

    Lukaku> Soldado

    Cheers

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      I always budget for a few pure bandwagon chasing hits in the first few weeks to build cash for later in the season. Do it.

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      1. CFC1990
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        Thanks mate.

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  9. Djerbil
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    oh dear me Carragher

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  10. Bests Conquests
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    MNF thoughts?

    Jamie Carragher's voice, can't take it! Sounds like a 9 year old who's mum won't give him any chocolate.

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    1. Tim Canterbury
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      Don't even take in what they're saying. So confused by all the controls on the Star Trek control panel. Just say Newcastle were crap

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  11. rohan
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    This game needs some Negredo now

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    1. Oldman Unathletic
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      No it doesn't.

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  12. cosmo999
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    How will Oswaldo signing impact j.rodriquez and Lambert.

    Currently have J.Rod, but for how long can i keep him?

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  13. Djerbil
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    Joseph Barton @Joey7Barton

    Can someone take the helium of Carragher for the after the match stuff. Dogs all over England standing to attention every time he speaks...

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
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      HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
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      Now repeat that in his French accent. 🙂

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    3. beric
      • 13 Years
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      what a knob

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    4. tomfiend
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Like he can talk. Imagine the two of them as a commentary team

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  14. Jan Koller
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    I need Nancy to score twice for my bet

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
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      Who is she playing for?

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      1. Jan Koller
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Nancy 0 - 1 Brest (French Ligue 2) 79min 🙁

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 14 Years
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          Don't look good, hope it works out.

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        2. Turd
          • 14 Years
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          You should have realised the Nancy was never going to like being up against Brest.

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  15. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 13 Years
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    What a fruiting disgrace those Newc. players are. One man from newly promoted Palace showed more grit, fight and passion than all that lot put together. Disgraceful

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    1. Holy See
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      A fruiting disgrace. Moderation has indeed spawned some fascinating terminology. True tho. Pardew must be going bananas.

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  16. The Bandit
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    Taylor red solves the Taylor/Yanga dilemma.. Neither for sure

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    1. GuyIncognito
      • 16 Years
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      I'm not so sure Yanga is going to finish the game on the pitch.

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    2. Ted Maul
      • 12 Years
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      Yanga is also a red waiting to happen, as you say avoid both!

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    3. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      You got or going Aguero rover?

      Got Silva myself.
      Lukaku to Aguero next up.

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  17. Mr Wizard
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    Why does zabaleta have -1 bps ???

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    1. GlasgowFF
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      booking?

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      1. Mr Wizard
        • 15 Years
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        Hasn't been booked, only fouled once...

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    2. JJO
      • 13 Years
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      I asked that too but no1 knows the answer

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    3. Djerbil
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      Fouls

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  18. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Might consider:

    M.Turner and Lukaku -> Coleman and dzeko

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  19. FantaCity
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    getting worried he's gonna start Negredo over Dzeko 2nd half - Y card already 🙁

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    1. GlasgowFF
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      Hope he does.

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  20. GlasgowFF
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Big Brother finale starting if anyone interested.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 14 Years
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      Gary Neville?

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    2. Son is Rising
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Where's that down vote button gone...

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  21. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    DELETE JELLYFISH assist or
    GIVE DZEKO + 1

    Simple as that @!!!

    P.S. And please don't use the Solomon solution by giving to Rooney please 😉

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Anyone got a gif of the "JELLYFISH" assist?

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      1. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Can you shut up about this now? Wild Rover explained the difference on the last page.

        The reason Jelly got the assist was because his was a rebounded shot... The reason Dzeko didn't was because his was a deflected cross..

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 14 Years
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          I assume that wasn't a reply to me!

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    2. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
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      Daniel, please stop spamming about this, several people now have explained the rules which have been applied correctly. The two goals are not comparable.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Assists are awarded to the player from the goal scoring team, who makes the final pass before a goal is scored. An assist is awarded whether the pass was intentional (that it actually creates the chance) or unintentional (that the player had to dribble the ball or an inadvertent touch or shot created the chance).

      If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded.

      Rebounds
      If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded.

      Own Goals
      If a player shoots or passes the ball and forces an opposing player to put the ball in his own net, then an assist is awarded.

      Penalties and Free-Kicks
      In the event of a penalty or free-kick, the player earning the penalty or free-kick is awarded an assist if a goal is directly scored, but not if he takes it himself, in which case no assist is given.

      Finalising Assists
      Assist points awarded by Opta within Fantasy Premier League are calculated using additional stats which may differ from other websites. For example, some other sites would not show an assist where a player has won a penalty.

      For the avoidance of doubt, points awarded in-game are subject to change up until one hour after the final whistle of the last match of any given day. Once the points have all been updated on that day, no further adjustments to points will be made

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  22. Mr Sarcastic
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    Hour ago plan was Lukaku => Rvp gw3.
    Might need to change it now...
    Lukaku => Aguero/Negredo/Dzeko (which ever doesn't start gw2) gw3 and then gw4 Rvp in.

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    1. GlasgowFF
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Get RVP in. City all rotate/.

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  23. rohan
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    S.Taylor has a habit of doing stupid things. He was always gonna get red carded

    😀

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      Tbf, Aguero ducked most of it

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  24. Jammy
    • 12 Years
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    Negredo please come on

    Vs 10 men!!!!

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  25. Kingston
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    Well I suppose that settles the Taylor / Mbiwa debate for now

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    1. T1P
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      Neither?

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      1. Kingston
        • 15 Years
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        They don't play city away every week

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  26. Dynamic
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    Silva has come back out: big relief!!! 😀

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    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      +1
      Time for £2.50 on Ladbrokes special 11/1 NGS

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    2. Kvelertak
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Indeed, get in!

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  27. Legendary!
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    Have Yanga Mbiwa for GW2 but not filled with confidence in N'Castle at the moment (a consolation might be that West Ham travel poorly)

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    1. Ted Maul
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Nolan to score against his former club.

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      1. Legendary!
        • 14 Years
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        Likely

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  28. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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    I'd like to apologise for all the Liverpudlian's watching MNF.

    It must be awful for you.

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  29. FPL Daniel
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    12 years, 5 months ago

    @ Wild Rover. Go to bad mate. Then wake up. Rooney assist give. Go to bed back again.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
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      no assist deal with it

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
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      Is there a translator in the house?

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      1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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        Carragher?

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      2. Back on the horse
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        he's saying it's your badtime

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      Daniel I posted the rules above on your last post. No more now please.

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  30. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    JAMIES RESPONSE

    CALMMMMMMMMM

    DOWNNNNNNNNNNN

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Calm down with the caps.

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