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30 November 2013 3537 comments
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Saturday’s six matches get under way with five three o’clock kick-offs before Newcastle host West Brom in the North East this evening. While Arsenal and Everton are the only true rich sources of Fantasy talent on show, the teamsheets certainly give a few of us something to consider as we head into the hectic December schedule.

We start the team news at Goodison, where there’s a couple of surprises in the Everton lineup as both Ross Barkley and Kevin Mirallas drop to the bench – perhaps with the midweek trip to Old Trafford in mind. Both were impressive in the 3-3 draw with Liverpool last time out but warm the timber this time around as Leon Osman is recalled and Barcelona loanee Gerard Deulofeu is given his first Premier League start. At the back, Bryan Oviedo replaces the injured Leighton Baines. Visitors Stoke are forced into a pair of changes with Robert Huth and Marko Arnautovic both absent through injury. Oussama Assaidi returns to the starting XI, while Marc Muniesa is given his first league start for the Potters.

Paul Lambert brings Antonio Luna, Gabby Agbonlahor, Andreas Weimann and Fabian Delph back into his Villa lineup to face Sunderland following their role in the Hawthorns comeback. Nathan Baker, Yacouba Sylla, Libor Kozak and Aleks Tonev make way. Gus Poyet also makes three changes to the Sunderland teamsheet, as in come Craig Gardner, Fabio Borini and Andrea Dossena with Jack Colback, Adam Johnson and Ondrej Celustka dropping to the bench.

Sam Allardyce makes no less than four changes to his West Ham lineup to face Fulham, with one of them of great significance. Ravel Morrison drops to the bench having started the last nine Premier League matches; Joe Cole also makes way, along with Joey O’Brien and Jack Collison. The Hammers start with George McCartney, Mohamed Diame, Modibo Maiga and Matt Jarvis. As for Fulham, they are without the injury Dimitar Berbatov, so Adel Taarabt is handed a rare start for Martin Jol’s side. Damien Duff and Steve Sidwell also return as Bryan Ruiz and Derek Boateng miss out.

Arsene Wenger has the luxury of selecting an unchanged side for the trip to Cardiff as Theo Walcott is again kept in reserve. The home side make just a single change with Kim Bo-Kyung given the nod over Peter Odemwingie.

Finally, at Carrow Road, Chris Hughton makes three changes to his Norwich lineup as in come Johan Elmander, Wes Hoolahan and Seb Bassong. Anthony Pilkington misses out through injury, Bradley Johnson and Michael Turner drop to the bench. Tony Pulis makes two changes for his first match in charge of Palace as Jason Puncheon comes in for the suspended Yannick Bolasie. Cameron Jerome is preferred to Dwight Gayle up front.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be with you throughout today’s matches, right through to the final whistle at St James’ Park.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Wings Fan
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    37 points, still to play:

    Remy
    Coloccini
    Johnson
    Hazard
    Coutinho
    Rooney
    Aguero (c)

    Oh yeahhhhhh

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      nice

      39 (+6)
      aguero(c)
      rooney
      suarez
      brady
      dawson
      boruc

      ouch, you dont have suarez

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    2. BantamPhil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      30 (+5)

      Aguero (C)
      Remy
      Suarez
      Oscar
      Yaya
      Terry
      Clichy
      McGregor

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    3. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Should have 4 Baps on the way too, which negates the -4 hit I took.

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    4. Giovanni Giorgio
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      39 with Boruc, Terry, Hazard, Sess, Suarez and Aguero(C) left to play. Should be ok I guess. But no Ramsey in my team. Fml

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    5. Mr Smith
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      50 points, still to play:

      Terry
      Evans
      Hazard
      Suarez
      Aguero(c)

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    6. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      45 (excl BPs) with

      Suarez (c)
      Rooney
      Hazard
      Sess
      Gerard

      To play. Green arrow please?

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  2. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Cardiff 3-2 Man City
    Cardiff 2-2 Man Utd
    Cardiff 0-3 Arsenal

    Nuff said.

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    1. ThePundit16
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal only 1 goal up until the 85th minute, then score two at the end when we're chasing the game.

      I agree they're better than United and City, but it's definitely not 'nuff said'

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        the scoreline was flattering, but Arsenal are still being more consistent this season than the other big teams

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      2. El Muñeco
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Man utd were 1 up at 85 mins. Football matches are 90 minutes long not 85.

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    2. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      United did have our number though...

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    3. rumplestilskin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      quite natural to be honest...
      A>C>M, cause- M comes after C comes after A.... simple sequence

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      These are the games that decide the title.

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    5. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      When Flamini is scoring screamers, you know this isn't an ordinary arsenal year.

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        hardly a screamer inside the 6 yard box, no?

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    6. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i thought they played really well 0-2 probABLY a better reflection
      but yeah manU not even close.. not sure about manC and their hubris against certain opposition

      but if ars don't win they are IDIOT

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  3. Darsh
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Now that Ozil performed,I seriously don't know who to use my two free transfers on! Anyone else in the same boat?

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    1. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yep was planning on shipping him out for funds no idea what to do now.

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      1. Darsh
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Might end up wasting it.

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    2. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i wasn't thinking of shipping ozil but im in the same boat re: 2 fts

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    3. beric
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i have 2ft and i think i will downgrade foster and save a transfer, leaving me 2ft + 2.9 cash money for the weekend

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      1. kennethrhcp
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        sounds good

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  4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    wenger says ozil was one of the players who looked a little tired...Rest incoming? Or will he play?

    Either way I won't take the risk in selling just because he misses 1 gw. He will be back v everton if rested.

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    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Maybe Walcott to play in his place on Wednesday

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        possibly but he might start ozil and then take him off early..Who knows

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  5. Wirtzle Gummidge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Walcott to start vs Hull?

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I think so

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Maybe 45 mins.

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      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        He only needs one 😉

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  6. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    finally Ozil comes good! Arsenal Boners?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      ramsey 3, ozil 2, kosc 1

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Ramsey 3, Ozil 2, by the looks of it.

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    3. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      thanks 🙂 double figures for Ozil then 🙂

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  7. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Need a 4.3 defender to bring in

    a) Brown (CHE, TOT, whm)

    b) Ward/Gabbidon (WHM, CAR, che)

    c) MOlsson (liv, wba, SWA)

    d) Collins (cpl, liv, SUN)

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    1. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      B or C

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  8. dracoira
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Forgotten to switch.. capt on rooney instead of aguero or suarez am I screwed? 🙁

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Find out tomorrow.

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    2. rdpx
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      It might work out for you.

      Football is a funny old game.

      I have it on Suarez by mistake, with Aguero as VC....

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  9. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Murner and Mirallas not getting any game time means Walker nd Shaw come in. Not great.

    Both rested, or should I look to get rid?

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Mirallas came on for 8 mins

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      1. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Ah, balls.

        Thanks man.

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    2. A.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Deulofeu might've done enough to stay in the team today after that performance, hard to tell

      But with a game in 3 days time Mirallas might play that and we see a bit of rotation.

      Murner might've been dropped, hard to tell

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      1. rdpx
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        his touch map on here at 1716 looks pretty impressive

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25153783

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        1. Spencer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Thanks guys.

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  10. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Thers only one RON VLAAR

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Now this guy...this guy might be essential

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Think today might be the fewest points I have got from him when I've played him

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        1. Reedy
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Same! Ha

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    2. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      he's given me 3/4 clean sheets since i got him in 🙂

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  11. Plagued by indecision
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    49 post-BPs with Yohan and The Big Boys (my new band name) still to play.

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  12. Ludo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Got Ramsey in a couple of weeks ago, he blanked twice, and I thought I'd successfully stopped his points... Apologies to any of those affected!

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  13. MountainBeach
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Time to take out Benteke or keep? got 9.3 to spend on a forward.
    Already got Ramsey and Ozil, so dont want Giroud..
    Best replacement lads?

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    1. Ludo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Same dilemma here... Lukaku and Remy look the best options based on current form, though both have two away fixtures next up. Think I might bite the bullet and take Lukaku as a long-term option.

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      1. MountainBeach
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        might keep him for another week I guess... or triple up on arsenal? hull at home, they might wreck em, giroud may score

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    2. DÏLKS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Same issue, not entirely sure.

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    3. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Really not sure. Next game against SOT away isn't helping. Have 2 FTs to get rid of him but not sure.

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      1. MountainBeach
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        yup, his value will definitely decrease as well

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  14. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    32 from 3... but still average given what;s just happened...

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Beating plenty on here this week.

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I know

      Only 4 players who played today

      Ramsey - 12
      Ozil - 9
      Coleman - 12
      Ravel Morrison - 4

      Suprised at why Turner and Barkley didn't play a single minute....Feel robbed of a clean sheet and an assist/goal.

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    3. Tabone
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I have 12 (just ramsey.. 10 players to go!)

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      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        red arrow tonight 😆

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  15. Prime
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Very tight game in the cup, gonna come down to Evra vs JWP, Evra being mine.

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      draw

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      1. Prime
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Looks like the most likely outcome, which sucks as he's ranked 400k places higher.
        I might edge it with a Coleman or Vlaar BAP.

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  16. Mojo Rojo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Newcastle & WBA line-ups? Cheers

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Sort by stickies.

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  17. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Good to go for Wednesday?

    Mignolet
    Terry Shawcross Williams Clyne
    Ozil Ramsey Ravel.M
    Aguero Suarez(c) Rooney
    --------------------------------------------------
    Lewis Amalfitano Redmond Chester

    Thanks.

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  18. Plagued by indecision
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I think now I can invest in doing up my very shaky defence. Any thoughts?

    Toure / Coleman / Baker / Chester / Clyne

    Baker > Mertesacker? I've got the cash spare.

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    1. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i missed the game, heard he took a knock to the head? possible rest midweek?

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    2. joinho
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      If you can afford him I'd look at finding a way of getting Evra, Man Utd have got great fixtures for the next 6GW's

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  19. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Long vs. Coloccini and Williamson + Remy vs. McAuley and Olsson. There will be goals

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  20. kennethrhcp
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    any help/thoughts much appreciated!

    mign, (davis)
    shaw, dawson, gabbidon, (vlaar & coleman)
    hazard, coutinho, ozil, whittingham, (amalfitano)
    suarez, negredo, lukaku

    Bank: 0.04mil
    FT: 2

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  21. joinho
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    My big dilemma for GW14; who do I play Guzan or Boruc?

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    1. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      go with home gk?

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  22. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Is there any way a head to head league can be deleted? I want to join another one but maximum limit has been reached

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      No.

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    2. beric
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      dont think so, i hope not anyway. you'd ruin it for the other players in that league

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      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        there are only 3 others apart from myself and they have stopped following it!

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        1. beric
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          maybe the creator can delete it?

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          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            I am the creator/admin!

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            1. beric
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 2 months ago

              ha, i dunno then man, sorry

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  23. RuudVanNistelrooney
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Benteke Owners , what's the plan now ? kick or stick

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    1. Don Andres
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Just did

      K.Toure & Benteke

      to

      Gabbidon & Suarez

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      1. RuudVanNistelrooney
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        I already have suarez rooney & i am just praying that aguero doesnt start tomorrow. only pellegrini can save me now

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    2. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      i'm looking @ maybe bringing him in... i know you clearly stated you were asking owners but just thought id reply anyway 🙂

      he has goals in him, just saving em up

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      1. RuudVanNistelrooney
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        when I'd lukaku/giroud they were saving goals too i guess

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    3. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Urgh, his fixtures are hard to argue with but he is getting to "that" stage. Much depends on Remy tonight, if not Negredo/Giroud may be drafted in.

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  24. Mindless Freak
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Come on Remy Krul and Cabaye, please do the business 🙂

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  25. andres
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    at this stage is there anyone without rambo?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Of course.

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Minority of casuals. Large number of FFSers.

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    3. EatStatic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      There will still be plenty who thinks he's just been lucky. The fact I never captain him suggests deep down I think the same. How many Ramsey owners captain him? Even without Ageuro and Suarez I'd probably find a reason to put it on someone else.

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Snoddy -> Walcott this week me thinks. It's time for Theo.

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    1. joinho
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I take it you've got Ramsey?

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Ohhhh yes

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  27. King Kohli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Too late to bite the bullet and get Ramsey?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      No. Peace of mind.

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    2. Don Andres
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      No, get Ramsey.

      No way you will beat the Ramsey owners by investing 7,4 in another midfielder.

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    3. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Just get him and be done....Of course, after that you must change your name 🙂

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    4. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      lol, your avatar might need to change to something along the lines of: "and then, Ozil joined"

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  28. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    To Get Ramsey I must sell One of Per, Ozil and Giroud and it will be for a hit. What to do

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  29. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Mirallas to Wally was my planned transfer this week.. should i still do it or is it too early for wally?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Got 2 Frees.. the other one will prob be maintenance work(Brady/Rosenior/Morrison need monitoring)

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I'm planning on Wally in this week

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  30. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I'm 18 points behind my h2h rival with the following still to go

    Mine: Aguero(C),Suarez,Sess,Zaba.Boruc
    His: Lovren,Oscar,Hazard,DeGea,Santon,Dawson

    Things look bleak,dont they?

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