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1 December 2013 5613 comments
Mark Mark
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With Aaron Ramsey’s latest points haul still resonating within the Fantasy Football community, we now look forward to Sunday’s quartet of matches which promise to round the Gameweek off with a bang.

Proceedings begin early, with the midday kick-off at the Lane finding a Spurs side desperate to recover from their Etihad mauling against champions United. With Andre Villas-Boas on the tightrope and Wayne Rooney in red-hot form, the day looks set to get off to an intriguing start.

That’s followed by Liverpool’s visit to the KC Stadium, as Luis Suarez looks to claim his latest set of points against a Hull defence that has allowed just two goals in front of their own fans. A pair of late afternoon kick-offs come next, with Chelsea taking on Southampton at the Bridge, while City’s steamrolling home form is set to go through the gears again as Swansea draw up in Manchester.

With Rooney, Suarez and Sergio Aguero on show and sporting the armband for so many Fantasy managers, today’s events are set to cause a major swing in the ranks and mini-leagues.

The early team news from North London finds Rooney safely snuggled in the United attack although, once again, Robin van Persie is absent. The Dutchman doesn’t even make the matchday squad as his Fanatasy stock continues to diminish at pace. David Moyes is able to welcome back Nemanja Vidic, however, and he takes his place in a back four alongside Jonny Evans, with Chris Smalling at right-back. Phil Jones occupies a midfield role once more, while Shinji Kagawa earns only his third league start of the season.

Villas-Boas shuffles again, making an array of changes from the side that was humiliated at City. Nacer Chadli earns a recall on the flank, whle Mousa Dembele is also back in the lineup in the middle of the park: Lewis Holtby and Erik Lamela make way. Meanwhile, at the back, Vlad Chiriches replaces Younes Kaboul who drops to the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open and available throughout all today’s matches, right up until the final whistles at Stamford Bridge and the Etihad.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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    1. Rasping Drive
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      Who's that little squirt at the back? Face looks familar

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      1. The Bandit
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        I think he was called Terry something... Every class has a dunce, even the class of 92

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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          Terry Cooke

          Had an excellent debut then vanished into obscurity

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          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            The Pete Best of the Fergie Fledglings 😀

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    2. the axolotl
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      that was a guy called terry cooke, never made it

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    3. A.
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      A bit of investigation reveals that the lad on the end is Terry Cooke, a definite odd one out.

      His career was slightly less successful than the others

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    4. Piggs Boson
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      Ozil at the back.

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  2. FPL Daniel
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    Isn't there any 3.7m defender? Chester is 3.8 too bad

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  3. La Roja
    • 13 Years
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    RP

    Kun and Januzaj out

    Ramsey and Negredo in

    -4 hit

    Yay or nay?

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    1. Voodoo
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      No way man, why would you get rid of Aguero, is this a joke?

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  4. CFC1990
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    Worth doing Benteke and Vidic for Rooney and Koscielny?

    Mignolet (NOR)
    Terry (sun), Vidic (EVE), Clyne (AVL),
    Ozil (HUL), Ramsey (HUL), Barkley (mun), R Morrison
    Aguero (wba), Suarez (NOR), Benteke (sot)

    Subs: Lewis (sto), Brady (ars), B Turner (sto), Coleman (mun)

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    1. Voodoo
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      Looks good, is it for a hit?

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      1. CFC1990
        • 14 Years
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        No, got 2 free's

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  5. isacki: full casual
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    Getting Walcott this week. Question is, for Hazard (useless today) or Coutinho?

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      Not liking Chelsea away to Sunderland either. Looks ripe for frustration, could easily score only once or not at all.

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    2. sinik
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      I don't know how to look at Coutinho. I see him in the same vein as Silva, provides for the assister

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        There's some of that, but he is actually shooting a lot, just not accurately

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        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
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          fair enough, I'm keeping Gerrard because he's on fire so I haven't had to consider that..it's a tough one..

          many say Hazard is a season keeper but I always see him creating build-up play and then is so far away from the final finishing moves..

          kept him earlier because he was on pens, but then forgot Lampard took the duty when on the pitch

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            Yeah Hazard isn't actually that brilliant in open play. Even the points he gets are a bit jammy.

            Nice one with Gerrard, story of the year, set pieces win.

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            1. sinik
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              • 12 Years
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              I might ship Hazard myself to get Walcott and just keep Ramsey honestly. If I consider the way Arsenal's midfield is already playing and then add in the fastest player in the league to that equation it just seems so tantalizing...

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              1. isacki: full casual
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                Yep. Got to bet on it - we've given him 3 cameos to get going now. This was the plan.

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                1. sinik
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                  • 12 Years
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                  with this team:

                  Migs, Lewis
                  Coleman, Rat, Terry, Burner, Clyne
                  Gerrard, Hazard, Ramsey, Ravel, Januzaj
                  Suarez, Aguero, Lukaku

                  1 FT, 2.1m

                  would you do Rat -> Merte/Zab now or just do the Hazard -> Walcott already?

                  I'm thinking the former and give Walcott one more game..he's only played 22 minutes across 2 matches so far and with two games in quick succession I could see Wenger preferring to give him 60+ on the weekend

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
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      i already get wally in , rushed transfer it is

      and i am sticking with both haz+cout

      sess has make the way

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Got a feeling I got Haz for his good run and he's going quiet again. Mata totally outshone him today, seemed to be where Hazard normally is on the left.

        Surely can't sell Coutinho before Norwich?

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  6. Heydudes13
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    Just emailed FPL about an assist for Terry for Cahill's goal.

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    1. sinik
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      would be brilliant lol

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      Spam folder.

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
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        Nope. It says they'll 'endeavour to reply'.

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        1. JWF
          • 16 Years
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          Auto reply.

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        2. RÏɠBY
          • 14 Years
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          bless

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        Dreaming.

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      2. sinik
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        • 12 Years
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        terrible replay lol..cropped out for the crucial view

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    3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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      Ta

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    4. A.
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      Ba definitely touched that, otherwise it was going wide

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      OK, can't give grief to anyone for doing this in future now then 😆

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    6. dmcqt
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      The slow mo at the end makes me think it's Ivanovic for the assist, with the slim outside chance that Ba touched it.

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  7. sinik
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    • 12 Years
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    Migs, Lewis
    Coleman, Rat, Terry, Burner, Clyne
    Gerrard, Hazard, Ramsey, Ravel, Januzaj
    Suarez, Aguero, Lukaku

    1 FT, 2.1m

    A) stick and save FT
    B) Januzaj -> Brunt
    C) Rat -> Merte/Zab
    D) Migs -> Marshall AND Rat -> GJ (then bring in Howard/other for Lewis in GW16)

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    1. AsAF23
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      Rat to Zab/Mert, seems a pretty clear choice to me. I'd go Zab.

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      1. sinik
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        well Everton is free-scoring atm (though not against a calibre of Arsenal's current defensive form) and City's away form has been hit or miss, that's why I found it tricky

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        1. AsAF23
          • 12 Years
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          I see. City have been awful away so far, but I fancy them for the title this season, and with the amount of points they've already dropped away from home, plus the good form they are in recently (albeit home games), makes me think they're away form can only improve from here. How many more points can they afford to drop away from home??

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          1. sinik
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            • 12 Years
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            to be fair West Brom and Southampton CAN be pretty toothless if they're not up to it..

            would be Zab hands down if Kompany was back 😐

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  8. MattysFantasyFooty
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    Could Terry still get the assist from the Cahill goal? Thoughts?

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    1. Declan-
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      I didn't see a touch. I have him and I'd be very surprised

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      1. LeBron - King of Argentina
        • 13 Years
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        Ball took a slight veer after being close to Terry. Imo that had to be a touch.

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      2. Heydudes13
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        They should at least review it.

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      I'm happy he got 3baps

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    3. Podge
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      It was Ivan

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  9. asyrafdanial
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    Guys.how about Oviedo..will he play next game u reckon? need Williams (cry) replacement.

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  10. Thomass
    • 13 Years
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    Would you do.

    Remy to Rooney -4 and might take Oscar out for Hazard and that unfortunately makes it -8
    How does that sound?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Team Thomass

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      1. Thomass
        • 13 Years
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        Meaning?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          What's your team?

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      -8

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      1. Thomass
        • 13 Years
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        Yes thoughts?

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  11. Venom Snake
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    What's all this talk about oscar??

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      went off injured before HT.

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
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        What was the injury

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  12. Johnny139
    • 12 Years
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    Guys, if you could would you get Cabaye and Rooney despite their impending ban (both on 4 yellows) over something like Hazard and Rooney?

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    1. Johnny139
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      Hazard & Lukaku*** Lol.

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    2. Rasping Drive
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      No. Is this a wind-up by the way?

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      1. Johnny139
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        No. I meant Hazard and Lukaku*.

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        1. Rasping Drive
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          Ok. Hmm. Still no 😀

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          1. Johnny139
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            Thanks man!

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  13. The Missing Link
    • 12 Years
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    2 of the ARS strikers +remy/lukaku/negrado gives you a good midfield and defense. ARS strikeforce is overrated, takes up too much budget. Thoughts?

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    1. RÏɠBY
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      use logic

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  14. Sting
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    Just when you think you have a settled team...

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    1. Art Vandelay
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      So true. Saved my FT for the first time in ages and was all relaxed going into todays game. 4 points and 2 injuries later it is panic stations!!!

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  15. Art Vandelay
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    12 years, 7 days ago

    I am in a bit of a spin after such a terrible day. Can I have some advice on my options. Thinking of one of these two. However, I am now some 90 points of the lead in my ML so maybe I need something different. Thoughts please. Thanks.

    Speroni/Boruc
    Chester, Turner, Koscielny, Evra, Coleman
    Özil, Ramsey, Sessegnon, Brady, Morrison
    Rooney, Agüero, Suárez 1.6 en el banco

    a) Oscar and Remy to Ramsey and Rooney

    or

    b) Oscar and Sess to Gerrard and Ramsey

    c) ?

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    1. AsAF23
      • 12 Years
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      Ozil, Coleman, Kos, Ramsey, Rooney, you've had a pretty darn good week to be fair.
      I'd go with ramsey rooney, Remys fixtures are getting harder, and Newcastle are so high in the table, I'm inclined to think down is the only way from here, at least for a bit.

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
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      B by a country mile

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  16. Harvey Specter
    • 12 Years
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    Three questions:

    1) I've had Giroud all the way since gw1, but is it time to get rid of him?

    2) Will Ramsey keep the consistency? havn't bought him yet...

    3) What about Nasri, should I get him?

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    1. jonnybhoy
      • 13 Years
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      Yes
      Yes
      Yes

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      1. Harvey Specter
        • 12 Years
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        Who should I replace Giroud with? Rooney and Lukaku are facing decent teams... already have Suarez and Agueroooooo

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    2. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
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      If you haven't got Ramsey at all then what's the point in playing FPL

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      1. Harvey Specter
        • 12 Years
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        Stupidity and lack of time is the mainly reason, but I have him now relax. However, my other question goes to you aswell

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  17. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
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    what do you recon?

    will walcott become regular starter again?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
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      Not sure

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    2. Elniñorules
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      Will definitely start Everton I think. Not sure about Hull.

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    3. Rasping Drive
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      • 16 Years
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      Reckon so.

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    4. DRIZ ✅
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      To early to say mate could start in place of Giroud

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    5. The Shadow
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      He'll be one of the most rotatable starters. It's so easy to bring him off the bench for a change after resting him for 70 mins.

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    6. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Donkey needs a rest, I wonder if Walcott will get 60-70 minutes up front against Hull.

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    7. BenDavies
      • 12 Years
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      He'll be gradually coaxed into the team, will play maybe half of the Hull game, I know you have him but I'm steering clear of him for the Christmas period

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  18. King H
    • 14 Years
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    Mignolet
    Glen Johnson Coleman Mertezaker
    Yaya Ramsey Sess Lallana
    Aguero Suarez Rooney

    Boruc Morrison Turner Chester

    I want to get rid of Sess immediately. .. who would be the ideal replacement to take his place ?

    Thanks .....

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  19. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
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    Gerrard or Walcott in for Mirallas?

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    1. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
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      Gerrard

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Gerrard for saftey, Theo for a punt

      I'm getting both

      Saving my FT this week has proved an absolute blessing.

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    3. DRIZ ✅
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      Stevie gerra

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    4. Deulo10
      • 12 Years
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      Gerrard

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    5. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
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      G

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  20. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
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    Just done GJ & Townsend to Vidic & Ramsey for -4, was it sensible guys? Just coming off the back of a terrible GW so thought, sod it!

    Gives me:

    Mig
    Vidic Collins Terry (Clyne Turner)
    Ramsey Ozil Hazard Morrison (Whitt)
    Aguero Suarez Lukaku
    0.3 ITB

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    1. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      That was meant to say GJ & Townsend to Collins and Ramsey!

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  21. Gazza2000
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    Mignolet - Lewis
    Koscielny - Dawson - Shaw - Chico - Chester
    Ozil - Ramsey - Barkley - Brady - JWP
    Rooney - Suarez - Aguero

    1.6 itb, 2FT

    a) Dawson, Ozil and Barkley out for Ward, Hazard and Gerrard
    or keep Ozil and:
    b) Barkley -> Whitts ?

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  22. Mojo Rojo
    • 13 Years
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    GW14
    Mignolet
    Coleman - Clyne - Terry
    Cabaye - Hazard - Ravel - Sess
    Aguero - Rooney - Suarez (c)

    Boruc - Barkley - Luna - Chester
    Bank = 0

    Save FT?

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  23. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
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    Benteke owners, are you getting rid of him after another blank?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
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      I'm getting rid for Lukaku in gw16 irrespective of either's next 2 performances

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    2. Shifty
      • 12 Years
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      Not sure, haven't decided. What's holding you back?

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    3. Audiobully
      • 13 Years
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      Yes. Had to shoehorn Rooney in and he has not performed

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  24. Mílanista
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    It has taken 13 GWs for my defence to score a goal. Thank you Terry you racist bedhopper for 17 points in 2 games.

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
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      I think he'll score more soon too. Gotta a feeling. LOL

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  25. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
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    Aguero to Rooney ahead of the lack of home fixtures for mci?

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  26. LeBron - King of Argentina
    • 13 Years
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    Guys, is Wally the obvious replacement for injured Oscar? Already have Gerrard.

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    1. Rasping Drive
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      Only if you're sure he'll start next game

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    2. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Depends what the injury news is. He played on for a few minutes.

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      1. LeBron - King of Argentina
        • 13 Years
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        True. Not sure Mourinho will start him though after 3 days regardless.

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  27. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
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    Just came in. Wasn't it an Agüero assist for Citys opener?

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    1. Demí
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      Nah becasue Negredo got fouled for the free kick

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  28. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 12 Years
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    Bit annoyed with © Aguero's cock-blocking antics today, I was on for a really good GW!

    I'm sure I'm among the masses though.

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  29. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
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    Lets talk keepers. Best cheap replacement for Boruc?

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
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      Guzan?

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  30. Bridge
    • 12 Years
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    So Oscar, Sess, Barkley, Rosenior all need to go,but for who? Looking at Walcott/Gerrard, Ravel and Koscielny/Zabaleta. Team below - help appreciated!

    Mignolet (Davis)
    Terry, Clyne, Ward (Coleman, Rosenior)
    Hazard, Sess, Ramsey, Barkley (Oscar)
    Rooney, Suarez, Aguero

    Cheers

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