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12 January 2014 3630 comments
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Gameweek 21 continues with a pair of Sunday afternoon affairs with a host of prime Fantasy cuts on show. Proceedings begin on Tyneside, where Newcastle look to halt Man City’s title chasing juggernaut. That’s followed by a trip to the Potteries to find Mark Hughes’ Stoke attempt to shackle Luis Suarez as Liverpool draw up to the Britannia.

The team news from the early kick-off at St James’ Park finds Manuel Pellegrini make two key changes. Interestingly, Martin Demichelis is immediately recalled to the defence on his return to fitness with Matija Nastasic dropping out – a good indication of the current pecking order for the spot alongside skipper Vincent Kompany perhaps, although the absence of Nastasic from the squad could well be down to further injury concerns. Similarly, David Silva’s return was always likely to see either a shift in formation or one of Samir Nasri or Jesus Navas drop out. It’s the latter that makes way this afternoon, as Nasri and Edin Dzeko take their place in the starting XI.

As for the home side, Alan Pardew is forced to shuffle the defence that faced West Brom in their last league outing with injury and suspension biting hard. With Fabricio Coloccini sidelined and Mathieu Debuchy banned, the Magpies boss drafts in Steven Taylor and Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. Vurnon Anita also starts in midfield with Shola Ameobi dropping to the bench suggesting a change in shape from Pardew as he looks to stifle the visitors in the middle of the park.

Look out for the teamsheet news on today’s late kick-off via our Twitter feed, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open for those looking for some real-time reaction.

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  1. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    studge better not nick my gerrard baps

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  2. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    "Assists are awarded to the player from the goal scoring team, who makes the final pass before a goal is scored. An assist is awarded whether the pass was intentional (that it actually creates the chance) or unintentional (that the player had to dribble the ball or an inadvertent touch or shot created the chance).

    If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded."

    Did a Stoke player touch it after the first shot?

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        That would make it an assist under the rules then.

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Milner and Suarez should get assists

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      2. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Yes the goalkeeper saved it altering intended destination!

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        1. Werkself
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          +1

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    2. Chris_White
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      11 years, 11 months ago

      Nope.

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    3. PGR
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      the goalie

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    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Keeper saved it then it hit the post.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Ah, never mind

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    5. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Keeper parried, scramble, goal.

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    6. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No, just Butland.

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    7. Cravex
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      the keeper did.

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      1. Ron_Swanson
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        but it didn't change the pass, which had already been collected

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    8. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Nobody complained when Milner wasn't awarded for the same thing. 🙂

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      1. Mílanista
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Nobody cared 🙂

        Not complaining, just wanted to clarify what happened

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  3. Pedram
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Greedy Suarez owners want another assist.

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      It might well be an FPL assist. It's just not an OPTA assist.

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      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Milner wasn't given assist for Negredo goal today

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Everyone is a Suarez owner.

      Except Doosra

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Jealous non owner doesn't.

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      1. Pedram
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        lol you think i'm a non owner ?

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Nope I meant there is prob only one non owner! 😉

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    4. lifes a pitch
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      damn straight

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  4. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    SAS is sure tempting me to WC this week

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    1. Yome
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yes I am doing it

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  5. wagwan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Do we reckon Sturridge will double rise this week?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      He's protected isn't he?

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      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Not anymore.

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  6. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Assist have been given with "rebound" goals before. Hmm.

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yes a rebound off a shot, Suarez passed to Sturridge who shot, was blocked, received it again and shot again 😉

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I mean the passer to the man who gets a rebounded goal

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        1. sinik
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          if they give it that is ridiculous lol..he got the goal of his own rebound

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          1. Heydudes13
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Keeper knocked it onto the post if that changes things...

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              shouldn't

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      He scored with his own rebound not one from another player

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  7. LOCO ABREU
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    suarez 3 goals

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      sorry ignore

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  8. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    To be fair, this is Stoke....With a backup goalkeeper

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I'm not sure the keeper has been to blame for any of the goals though

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    2. piquiblanco
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Not even that - Sorensen is a 2nd goalie.

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    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      This back-up goalie is argueably England's no3 goalie.

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  9. Pablitto
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    SSS
    Suarez Stuaridge Sterling - worth alll having in WC team?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Don't think Sterling is worth it. Will get benched eventually.

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    2. piquiblanco
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling will be rested now that Studge is back.

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    3. XecutionerX
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      you kidding?

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    4. BobB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No, because all three are clearly not fixture-proof for the rest of the season

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    5. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No mate, they won't score 5 goals in every game. You won't get many points in a one or two goal game.

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    6. Pablitto
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      cheers lads - but S and S combo should be vital i think

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  10. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    They'll probably review at the end.

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  11. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    seriously how can anyone who is watching the game think that Suarez gets an assist? and I capped him..

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      fpl assist

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        no way though..so much happened after Suarez passed it.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Not really. Shot, save, shot.

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          1. Heydudes13
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Shot, save, rebound (may just count as save though as it was the keeper who knocked it onto the post), shot.

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          2. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            no, Suarez pass, Sturridge shot, Butland block, Sturridge shot. Suarez is now out of the equation FPL-wise.

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      2. diz
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        It's not an assist. The rebound rule applies to the person who took the shot, Suarez was a step before that. It's like saying the person who passed to the penalty winner gets the assist

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          No it's not as there's no third person. I'm almost certain if someone crossed it into the box then the scorer poked it into the keeper then tapped it in after the crosser would get the assist. Not really any different.

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            how can a player get an assist then for his shot being saved into the path of the goalscorer? it has to be standardized. by the letter of the FPL Sturridge assisted his own goal

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            1. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              my first sentence there was very poorly written 😆

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          2. diz
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            They wouldn't. Read the rules carefully

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Because assists have been given in similar situations before?

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    3. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Last season it would have been FPL assist.

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    4. Ron_Swanson
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      because by the letter of the FPL rules it stands

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        no, if Suarez shot it and then Butland blocked and then everything else transpired than yes..Sturridge assisted his own goal

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    5. lifes a pitch
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      we just want the points

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        +1 the only sensible response 😆

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  12. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    So, 76 so far with Koscielny and Ozil to play. Thinking that means a red tonight at 90k since many will have Suarez captsin , no?

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    1. Darth
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Fishing for compliments........

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Dont be daft

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    3. Seamy
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Go away

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    4. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No.

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    5. A.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Depends what rank you are

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    6. woodles
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      lol

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    7. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Doubt it

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  13. Baa
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    SAS in the WC it is

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  14. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Damn, Studge is 9.1. I wish I could do a direct swap from Lukaku to Sturridge

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    1. Yome
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      WC

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  15. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    SAS has to be an option

    given the fixtures to come .....

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    1. piquiblanco
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      A as in Aguero? I'm reshuffling my defence right now.

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    2. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sturridge looks so eager!

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Great differential too.

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        1. Scottys Army
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          yeah and no rotation threat which giroud has with pod

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          1. sinik
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            I don't Giroud has rotation threat with Pod

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  16. Magerost
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Lukaku to Sturridge this week or save transfer to avoid a hit week after to get Aguero?

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    • crystalpalaceRus
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      People saying no assist probably captained adebayor

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      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Suarez captainer here, I'd be surprised if he gets it

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    • sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Would you go for Eriksen or Ramsey for your wc?

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    • Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Such a quality game!

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    • diz
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Cyaam down, zero % is that an assist for Suarez

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Not zero % by a long way.

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        1. diz
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          If we were in person and you gave me odds of 100/1 I'd put a tenner on in a flash. Not an assist by FPL rules. And I have him (C)

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      2. Ron_Swanson
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        what odds you give me?

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        1. Ron_Swanson
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          if you gave me evens I'd have a score on it

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        2. diz
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          See above :-p

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    • Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      So much for my SAS wc differential

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    • Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Almost a Gerrard OG

      😆

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    • Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Imo both Suarez and Milner deserve assists

      Almost Gerrard OG there

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    • Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Suarez still nailed on for 3 baps!

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    • super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone emailing FPL towers?

      That was an assist ?

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      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        No it wasn't just as Milner's wasn't earlier for Negredo's goal

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    • r0nh
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Of course Mignolet saves the Gerrard OG...

      Only thing he did all day.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        He gave Walters his goal.

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    • MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone got Sturridge? I remember Forca saying he was getting him.

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Getting him this week

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      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        had him and shipped in my drafts 🙁 someone said he would be on the bench next week

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    • Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Need 13 points from Sagna and Ozil combined to go through in the FPL cup! Wish me luck!

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      1. Efan Ekoku Pops
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Good luck! Though all the cool kids are out of it already 😉

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      2. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I will wish you luck if we can agree that Sagna outscores Ozil.
        My cup match is tied and down to Sagna vs Ozil.

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    • Shifty
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      45 from 4 today, very happy with that after 22 from 4 yesterday. Over to you Ozil + Kosc!

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    • Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Change I would like to see to FPL

      A very big block sign whenever I try to bring in Coutinho...maybe with some kind of electric shock

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