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The Dugout Discussion – Sunday

23 February 2014 3302 comments
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Gameweek 27 concludes with three matches that address both title ambitions and relegation concerns.

Liverpool’s credentials as title challengers will come under the spotlight as they clash with Swansea at Anfield. The visitors come into the game potentially leg weary after their fine performance against Napoli in the Europa League on Thursday. In contrast, Brendan Rodgers side will be fresh and looking build on their last two home appearances which has seen them claim nine goals against the Everton and Arsenal defences.

Elsewhere, Newcastle will be looking to stem the tide of three straight defeats without a goal as they face up to Villa at St James’ Park. Paul Lambert’s side will be seeking to come away from the North East with at least a point to consolidate their position outside of the relegation places.

Events then conclude at Carrow Road, with Norwich battling to keep themselves out of the bottom three and hoping to get a result against a Totteham outfit that struck four goals on their last away trip at Newcastle.

Look to our Twitter feed for all the lineup news, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open for those looking to partake in some real-time banter.

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  1. Thatsnotcricket
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone any idea who will get the 3Bp's in the Liverpool game, I've already looked at the detailed stats and it is on Sturridge, but is there a chance it will change to Henderson because of the winning goal? My H2H depends on it..............

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      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        No.

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        1. Thatsnotcricket
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I hope you're right I have Sturridge, I need him to get more BP's.

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            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              It changes very now and again if they are level on BPS on 1 point, but not that many.

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      2. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        What does Sturridge have to do to be in the scout picks?

        Last 6 weeks:

        Sturridge 66-32 Suarez.

        And don't feed me any 'We'd all pick Suarez' BS lines.

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        1. The Chosen One...
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          better he stays out....will keep on scoring

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        2. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          +1

          Can't understand it.

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        3. MattysFantasyFooty
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          The picks are always wrong mate totalfpl are usually far better

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        4. Thatsnotcricket
            11 years, 10 months ago

            We'd all pick Suarez. 🙂

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          • Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            And yet you captained Suarez over Sturridge.

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            1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              This

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              1. Total Foot 5
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                Colonel..Just saw you also captained Suarez. Your rank is similar to mine and need to gain ground to break top 10k. Wandering what your reasoning was to C Suarez? as i also went Suarez, but for both of us seems we will need to C other than Suarez to make ground.
                Going forward will you try to C other than Suarez?

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            2. Acquafresca
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              What's your point?

              It's getting ridiculously lopsided now.

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              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                It contradicts your whole argument that Sturridge should be picked over Suarez. Your captaincy decision shows that you shared the scouts view that Suarez would outscore Sturridge this week.

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                1. Acquafresca
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 10 months ago

                  Nope. I was planning to captain Sturridge, but didn;t wanna risk it this week as ML leader was captaining Suarez.

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                  1. Piggs Boson
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 10 months ago

                    So you captained the one you thought would score less points?
                    http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up.gif

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                    1. Phaze 1
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 10 months ago

                      Honestly Giggs has you here. How can you ask that question when you gave the (c) to Suarez. You cap the player you feel will score the most.

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                  2. FantasyFantast
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 10 months ago

                    If the ML leader was picking Suarez and you are chasing his lead, why shouldn't you pick Sturridge? Isn't that exActly what you should do, since you are chasing I mean. If you were leading it would be different and then it wouldn't make sense to go for a more "risky" captain, but when behind I thought that would be the smartest thing to do...

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            3. A.T
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              For the last 2 weeks and didn't have Sturridge before that.

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          • Whitman2013
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            it can only be racism...

            no im joking its cuz they dont want to promote doubling up

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            1. Breadbin
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              You're good at jokes.

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              1. Captain Shirokov
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                hehe

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              2. Whitman2013
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                i captained sturridge when you as well as others told me not too :P.

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                1. Breadbin
                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 10 months ago

                  I don't talk to you so that didn't happen.

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          • Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Apparently Suarez is a flat track bully at home or something. This wasn't a flat track...

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          • The3rdTurd
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            It does demonstrate a lack of thought/originality.

            Sturridge has been picked only twice this season, in gameweeks 5 and 8. Other than that, Suarez has been picked 19 times, which is every single gameweek he was available for apart from GW16.

            So it's not even an issue of not wanting to double up.

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            1. A.T
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Suarez consistently outscores Sturridge in the captains poll so it's a popular decision. Not that it effects the picks but it shows the general consensus.

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              1. The3rdTurd
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                But as you say, the scout picks aren't supposed to be a popularity contest. The whole point is to flag options that people might not have thought of, so if anything it should be contrarian to the general consensus.

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                1. Phaze 1
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 10 months ago

                  Was a 50/50 call this week imo. With them not wanting to double I don't think you can fault them for going Suarez this week.

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                2. A.T
                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 10 months ago

                  True but you can't argue people aren't thinking of Sturridge. You couldn't advise people to get Sturridge if you thiught a fwd from the same team will score more.

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                  1. The3rdTurd
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 10 months ago

                    Hmm, was that the actual thought process behind the decision?

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          • Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 18 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Unsurprisingly, it's a discussion we have every week. We've backed Sturridge over Suarez in the Watchlist for a while (with price being a key factor) but when the Scout Picks come around (where price is less of a factor) we've stuck with Suarez for fear that he'd break out of this dry spell and start hitting double figures. While Suarez's role has appeared to change, if you do a comparison of stats over the last six matches, statistically, Suarez is still performing at a rate that would suggest he'll offer strong returns. However, Sturridge has just been deadly.

            The easy way out is, of course, to select both in the picks but then I've always been against doubling up in a position in the picks because it goes against one of the principles of the picks we've had since the very start. I like to offer options rather than let two or three teams dominate the XI.

            In the case of Sturridge and Suarez in the current situation, I think we'll have to change this from this point on. I'm pretty sure we'll go Sturridge at Southampton but, for Anfield matches, there's an overwhelmingly case to go with both simply because the options available elsewhere are just not strong enough, right now. That might change when Aguero returns, of course.

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            1. The3rdTurd
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              I think this is one of those situations where the stats just don't reflect the reality. Sturridge has been lethal, and while he's on form we might as well ride the crest of the wave. The wave will break at some point back in favour of Suarez, but until then I find the overwhelming choice of Suarez over Sturridge by such a large multiple a bit baffling.

              We always say pick form over fixtures; well obviously the fixtures are the same, but the form part still holds true.

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              1. Mark
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 18 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                Fair points but I'd like to think that folk do check the Watchlist and read the articles that go with it - it's not like we've been playing down the Sturridge vs Suarez situation.

                Discount Sturridge's form for a second - there's no doubt that the scenario has been compounded by the downturn in Suarez's output - he's gone from producing Ronaldo-like consistency to being completely overshadowed by a team-mate. Maybe there's a purely tactical reason for this, maybe it's just that the gilt edged opportunities are falling for Sturridge right now, maybe it's just Suarez is off form. Personally, I don't think it's the latter.

                Like you say, the tide will turn, although there's no guarantee that Sturridge will dip when Suarez picks up, of course.

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        5. Perthite
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Top score for the round so far has used 5 trades this season.

          http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2411451/event-history/27/

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          1. Dicking Davies
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Because he's a dead team.

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        6. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Need Adebayor to get -4 to win my H2H. Here's hoping he has a penalty saved and headbutts the ref.

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          1. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            *Paulinho

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        7. DA Minnion (Former great)
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          84 with ade to go. Has a nice ring to it.

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          1. Dicking Davies
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I'm not buying it.

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        8. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Think I've beaten champ and athletics timbo h2h 😀

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          1. A.T
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            You'd smashed by half time yesterday I think. Congrats mate good luck with the cup. I'll be routing for you. 😀

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        9. The Mandalorian
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          150 Points for the week including Ade's 10 goals and 5 assists 🙂

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        10. jas5sk - Youtube channel
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          VanWolfswinkle 1 goal in 17 😯

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            he is due

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            1. Jax
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Overdue

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          2. The Chosen One...
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            was in my gw1 team when he scored that goal 😎

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            1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              casual 😆

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          3. Namtab Nomolos
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            RIP Van 'winkle

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          4. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Chris and injuries to blame imo

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        11. Tozier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Snodgrass hat-trick to save my gw...

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          1. 0thebrodie
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Jog on mate.

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        12. Grounderz
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Folks, Puncheon or Ince?

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        13. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Hooper dropped?

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          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Yes.

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          2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            houghton confirmed as tactical move

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        14. LewanGOALski
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Suarez scored just 4 goals in his last 10 EPL games, while Sturridge is on 9 in last 7 games after his come back.

          FACT!

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          1. Breadbin
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            4 in 10 plus assists is terrible. Must sell.

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          2. Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I don't think that all time premier league goals record will go

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        15. Sergio AGUEROOOOO
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Suarez out Aguero IN when fit

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          1. Breadbin
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Oh it's the guy that blames others for his own choices.

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            1. Sergio AGUEROOOOO
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              I come on here for opinions and advice, i got everyone saying captain suarez

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              1. Breadbin
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                Just give us your login details if you're incapable of making up your own mind.

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        16. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          So, it looks like Liverpool's philosophy is just to outscore teams.

          Working well for them this season.

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          1. Namtab Nomolos
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Also, keeping midweeks free.

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          2. Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Same as City's. Jose is beating both of them

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            1. Captain Shirokov
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              😎

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          3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            It's going to bite us tho. Need cleanses to push for the title

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            1. Captain Shirokov
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              I'd like to see ye get CL this year. Push on from there.

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          4. Obi Wan Elokobi
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            The man to blame for that is in your gravatar

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            1. Captain Shirokov
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Yolo Toure

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        17. 0thebrodie
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Suarez is on a goal drought and delusional captainers should just accept that he can't score. Sturridge is superior and still reigns high.

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          1. applebonkers
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            everything which is wrong with this site in 2 sentences. not bad

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          2. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            You're like a broken record.

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            1. Breadbin
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              A broken record would shut up, unlike this tool.

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              1. Tim Canterbury
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                😯 🙂

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          3. MattysFantasyFooty
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Dude I also captained Sturridge but please just shut up and stop rubbing salt in the wound like a knob. It's not nice when it happens to us but just don't be a dick about it for the love of God.

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          4. Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            delusional captainers? alright mate

            sorry i didn't realise it was that easy to predict someone going on a mental scoring run then grinding to a halt all of a sudden. need to listen to you more

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          5. Breadbin
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Still embarrassed to link your team I see.

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            1. 0thebrodie
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/152565/event-history/27/

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        18. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Can Sturridge surpass Suarez for the golden boot?

          Going by recent results not looking impossible...

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Every chance of it going on current form.

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          2. 0thebrodie
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Defo. Sturridge will win the golden boot.

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          3. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I'd be surprised if he stays injury free to be honest.

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        19. Bielsa's Bucket
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Ricky Van Wolfswinkel, worst buy of the season?

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Kallstrom.

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            1. Bielsa's Bucket
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              That's a loan, and Arsenal don't pay his wages.

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              1. Captain Shirokov
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                Oh really? Thought they bought him. Oops.

                Fellaini

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              2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                agreed solid move all things considered

                salah, willian or rvw

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                1. 7shadesofsmoke
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 10 months ago

                  willian has been an excellent buy, Salah hasn't had a chance yet. Nowhere near the RVW flop!

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              3. jas5sk - Youtube channel
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                I want to say Cornelius, but he just didn't play anywhere near as many games as RickyVW

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          2. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Aspas, as he's flopped in a good team while Norwich are poor in general

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          3. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Lamela disagree

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            1. Bielsa's Bucket
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              I honestly have no idea why he isn't played, he is amazing but always stuck on bench.

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            2. The Light Knight
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Wow, forgot him and Soldado, yikes

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          4. Obi Wan Elokobi
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Definitely Lamela possibly Altidore

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          5. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Surely Lamela.

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          6. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I'd certainly put him up there!

            Lamela is a frustrating one, you sense he'd have something to give.
            Soldado has taken a few pens, but Defoe woulda done that job well enough.

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            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Oh, and Chadli has barely made a mark on the team sheet...

              That Bale money has been pissed against the wall...

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        20. Capt. Krypton
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Ade won't have the brace owners are hoping for today. Norwich are incredibly tight defensively at home

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        21. SachRana11
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Will John Terry;s goal be cancelled?? and credited to lampard?

          HE DID NOT TOUCH ITTT, omggg

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Not on FPL.

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          2. john mensah
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            He touched it, so no.

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        22. Pringle
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          If you could choose one premium defender for gw 28, 29 and 30. Who would you pick?

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Terry, then Cahill, then Ivanovic, then Azpi

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          2. LewanGOALski
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Chelsea

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        23. S.Kuqi
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Adebayor (c) at gw 28.

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        24. SamH123
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Liverpool's scored 13 goals in 4 games,and none of them for Suarez...
          who would have predicted that

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          1. applebonkers
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            remarkable

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        25. Revival
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          59 points all out for me, looks like I won't be making the members cups 🙁

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        26. 0thebrodie
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Sturridge will win the golden boot.

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            you said that already

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          2. Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            quite funny after suarez looked like getting 40 goals

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          3. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I hope his penalty against Everton hits you in the face when it finally lands.

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          4. MattysFantasyFooty
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I hope you fall on your dick, dick

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            1. SuperOsçarBaby
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              lol@you for taking this seriously

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        27. Lallana_
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Captained Sturridge this week! 🙂

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        28. thunder_mike
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          57 with Lloris and Ade to play and Coleman to come on for two and some Liverpool Baps.

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          1. Elfozzie 42
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            55 with Ade and Ruddy plus 3 baps for Sturridge - was going to captain him based on form but let myself go with the herd on Saturday morning (did in the Ultimate game!)

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            1. thunder_mike
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              I captained Sturridge last GW worked a treat, just know Suarez is going to get a haul at some point.

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        29. andres
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          What are the best players to have over gw 28 and 29?

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          1. LewanGOALski
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            the ones who will score most points combined in those 2 GWs

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          2. Tim Canterbury
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            the ones who have games

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          3. Elfozzie 42
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            The ones playing would be a start

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        30. Greasy
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Can someone please tell me how to enter this paddy power cup starting this gw?

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Too late.

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              No it's not... Find the article and clck on the link

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        31. dansen
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          i need to sell dzeko tonight (value dropping) and bring in someone who has a game in GW29. I'm looking at Jelavic.
          will hull get to play within GW29 even if they win their FA cup replay?

          or any others? already has adebayor.
          Chelsea has no nailed on striker.
          Norwich, cardiff, fulham strikers can't score.
          Choices are limited!

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        32. Ady87
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Breadbin/Give The Todd Some Love

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/02/22/the-dugout-discussion-saturday-17/?hc_page=22#hc_comment_6845483

          /gloat

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          1. Breadbin
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            111,040 and you're gloating?

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