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FPL GW17 Scout Picks - Bus Team

Verbruggen

O’Reilly
Senesi
Hincapie

Semenyo
Saka
Wilson
Foden

Ekitiké
Haaland
Thiago

Kelleher
Rodon
Clyne
Kroupi

GW17 Chip Poll

Price Change Predictions

Risers

Fallers

Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Tavernier	BOU	5.5m	97.0%	Likely
Semenyo	BOU	7.5m	89.0%	Likely
Matheus N.	MCI	5.3m	100.4%	Very Likely
Palmer	CHE	10.3m	100.2%	Very Likely
Wilson	FUL	5.6m	84.8%	Maybe
Bowen	WHU	7.5m	90.7%	Unlikely
Gvardiol	MCI	5.9m	88.0%	Unlikely
Marc Guiu	CHE	4.2m	87.7%	Unlikely
Watkins	AVL	8.5m	84.6%	Unlikely
Truffert	BOU	4.5m	80.1%	Unlikely
Ekitiké	LIV	8.6m	68.5%	Unlikely
Keane	EVE	4.6m	74.0%	Unlikely
Foden	MCI	8.8m	68.1%	Unlikely
Verbruggen	BHA	4.4m	69.9%	Unlikely
Andersen	FUL	4.6m	69.7%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	68.2%	Unlikely
Ballard	SUN	4.6m	67.0%	Unlikely
Haaland	MCI	15.0m	64.0%	Unlikely
Raya	ARS	6.0m	66.4%	Unlikely
Livramento	NEW	4.9m	63.7%	Unlikely
Tete	FUL	4.5m	61.9%	Unlikely
Casemiro	MUN	5.5m	62.9%	Unlikely
Dalot	MUN	4.4m	60.6%	Unlikely
Petrović	BOU	4.5m	57.8%	Unlikely
Dúbravka	BUR	4.0m	56.4%	Unlikely
Cullen	BUR	5.0m	56.1%	Unlikely
Guéhi	CRY	5.3m	48.5%	Unlikely
Cash	AVL	4.9m	51.3%	Unlikely
B.Fernandes	MUN	9.3m	47.4%	Unlikely
Romero	TOT	5.0m	50.7%	Unlikely
Van den Berg	BRE	4.5m	49.9%	Unlikely
James	CHE	5.6m	48.7%	Unlikely
Igor Jesus	NFO	5.8m	47.7%	Unlikely
Flemming	BUR	5.3m	47.7%	Unlikely
L.Miley	NEW	4.4m	39.3%	Unlikely
Pickford	EVE	5.5m	40.5%	Unlikely
Mount	MUN	5.9m	39.4%	Unlikely
Wilson	WHU	5.8m	39.5%	Unlikely
Cherki	MCI	6.5m	32.4%	Unlikely
Leno	FUL	4.9m	38.4%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Lammens	MUN	5.1m	110.5%	Very Likely
Nallo	LIV	3.8m	100.9%	Very Likely
João Pedro	CHE	7.3m	98.9%	Likely
Mayenda	SUN	5.3m	100.5%	Very Likely
Elanga	NEW	6.6m	100.5%	Very Likely
Muniz	FUL	5.4m	100.3%	Very Likely
Rodon	LEE	4.1m	100.4%	Very Likely
Gudmundsson	LEE	3.9m	100.2%	Very Likely
Woltemade	NEW	7.4m	95.0%	Maybe
Jordan	BUR	4.0m	99.6%	Maybe
Neave	NEW	4.4m	99.1%	Maybe
Enzo	CHE	6.6m	94.7%	Maybe
Irving	WHU	4.4m	95.1%	Maybe
McKenna	BOU	4.0m	94.9%	Unlikely
Okafor	LEE	5.5m	94.4%	Unlikely
Barnes	BUR	4.3m	93.1%	Unlikely
Balcombe	BRE	4.0m	93.5%	Unlikely
Bentley	WOL	4.0m	92.8%	Unlikely
Sels	NFO	4.7m	91.5%	Unlikely
Piroe	LEE	5.0m	92.6%	Unlikely
Broggio	AVL	4.5m	92.3%	Unlikely
Morgan	BRE	4.4m	93.4%	Unlikely
Colwill	CHE	4.8m	91.9%	Unlikely
Kulusevski	TOT	6.4m	91.6%	Unlikely
Tasker	BHA	3.9m	89.6%	Unlikely
Nørgaard	ARS	5.2m	89.3%	Unlikely
Worrall	BUR	3.9m	88.8%	Unlikely
Yarmoliuk	BRE	5.0m	90.3%	Unlikely
Webster	BHA	4.4m	87.0%	Unlikely
McAtee	NFO	5.1m	86.7%	Unlikely
Coleman	EVE	4.3m	85.7%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	86.2%	Unlikely
Munetsi	WOL	5.4m	85.1%	Unlikely
Danso	TOT	4.3m	86.6%	Unlikely
Barnes	NEW	6.3m	79.5%	Unlikely
Jair Cunha	NFO	4.3m	84.9%	Unlikely
Fitzgerald	MUN	4.4m	84.9%	Unlikely
Gakpo	LIV	7.4m	82.1%	Unlikely
Aina	NFO	4.7m	83.4%	Unlikely
Bevan	BOU	3.9m	83.5%	Unlikely

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Watchlists

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	C
No Change	Alisson	LIV	C
No Change	Donnarumma	MCI	C, Sus
Up	Kelleher	BRE	C, Vs
Down	Ramsdale	NEW	C
No Change	Dubravka	BUR	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:16am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	C
No Change	Jurriën Timber	ARS	C, Inj
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	C
Up	Andersen	FUL	C
Up	Marc Guehi	CRY	A
Up	van den Berg	BRE	C, Vs
No Change	Thiaw	NEW	A
No Change	Milenkovic	NFO	C
No Change	van Hecke	BHA	A
No Change	Mukiele	SUN	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:28am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Saka	ARS	B
No Change	Bruno Fernandes	MUN	A
No Change	Foden	MCI	A
No Change	Semenyo	BOU	C
Up	Szoboszlai	LIV	C
No Change	Minteh	BHA	B
No Change	Bruno Guimarães	NEW	A
No Change	Schade	BRE	C, Vs, Sus
No Change	Anderson	NFO	B, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:34am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	B
No Change	Thiago	BRE	A, Vs
No Change	Mateta	CRY	C
Up	Ekitiké	LIV	B
Down	Welbeck	BHA	C, Rest
Down	Woltemade	NEW	B

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:43am

Site Features

8 May 2011 1955 comments

Andy

The rise and shiners up and at ’em early are rewarded with another Dugout Discussion built around a triple-header of televised action for the second week in a row – and it’s a big one.

Another early West Midlands derby starts us off with Wolves playing host to West Brom and Mick McCarthy looking to capitalise on the lack of points picked up by his relegation rivals yesterday. Following that, a potter across to Stoke will then see Arsenal facing off against Tony Pulis’ men in our mid-afternoon kick-off

Then we head north to close out with what could prove to be the biggest game of the season. Manchester United play host to Chelsea and a win for United will all but guarantee a 19th title for Fergie’s men while if the Blues can pull the rug from under them then they’ll steal first place and leave a race for the title in the final two gameweeks like to come down to goal difference.

Line-ups from our noon kick-off after the break…

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Foley, Craddock, Mancienne, Elokobi, Guedioura, Henry, O’Hara, Hunt, Ward, Fletcher.
West Brom XI: Carson, Jara, Meite, Olsson, Shorey, Tchoyi, Morrison, Mulumbu, Thomas, Cox, Odemwingie.

The visitors bring in Somen Tchoyi for the suspended Paul Scharner while Jerome Thomas is back to full fitness ousting Carlos Vela to the bench. The home side also make a couple of changes from their last game as Matt Jarvis is dropped to the bench in favour of Stephen Hunt (“[he’s] bursting to play – I think he’s got a goal in him today” – Mick McCarthy) and Adlene Guedioura takes up Richard Stearman’s spot.

The Dugout Discussion will be with us through all this action until the bonus points get handed down and we get our jerking our knees.

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Attila the Bum
14 years, 7 months ago
LULZ!
Just noticed the guy I REALLY want to beat has Vidic and Walters on the bench. Chinnnnnnnnnnnns to him 🙂
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1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Don't be nasty - it'll come back to haunt you! 😉
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  1. Attila the Bum
    14 years, 7 months ago
    He's been beating me all season, I've very little chance of overhauling him. This is the one occasion I know he will be cheesed off so I'm revelling in it.
    Justice at last.
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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
      14 years, 7 months ago
      http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2001/06/20/PAjustice.gif
      
      🙂
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Jonty Haynes
14 years, 7 months ago
Decent day for me even as a Chelsea fan. Five players : Four goals
(Hernandez, Lampard, V. Persie, Odem, Huth)
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CPG
14 years, 7 months ago
Berbs in, Zamora/Welbeck out.
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AriseSirGiggsy
14 years, 7 months ago
3 months ago i stated on here that United were the 2nd best team on the planet.

Amongst other things I was called a knob, a muppet, a fool, a child, biased, unrealistic and "scum".

Having all but secured our 4th title in 5 seasons and 3rd Champions League Final in 4 seasons, I think there are many out there in FFLS land who will now require a large helping of humble pie.

Please form an orderly queue and you will all get served.

We'll do what we want.
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1. andy85wsm
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Got any links?
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  1. Attila the Bum
    14 years, 7 months ago
    He won't have. There's lots of posts like this lately - I said xxxx and xxxx and you all called me a fool BUT I WIN!
    Dull.
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    1. Jermaine Chigurh
      14 years, 7 months ago
      And ironically quite foolish.
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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      14 years, 7 months ago
      I said that ages ago Attila, I was called all sorts of names 😉
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  2. AriseSirGiggsy
    14 years, 7 months ago
    Next serving begins at 12:45 on Saturday at Ewood Park
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2. Demí
  14 years, 7 months ago
  We aren't the 2nd best team. Real madrid and Barcelona are still ahead of us.
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  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius�…
    14 years, 7 months ago
    Nonetheless, congrats, Demi! 🙂
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3. Jermaine Chigurh
  14 years, 7 months ago
  I wasn't one of those people, but I think Real Madrid are slightly better than Man U.
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Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
14 years, 7 months ago
Is this the worst GW for defence ever?

Can't believe Huth went off before he got his defensive points. Him going off on 61 minutes would have been ideal 🙁
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Fancy Feet
14 years, 7 months ago
Cole might need a pregnancy test cause no one could get raped that much and not get knocked up
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1. PFOR
  14 years, 7 months ago
  He did the same to him in August.
  
  Cole has had an off-season though, as has Evra. No real standout left-backs in the league/Europe right now.
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  1. tazri
    14 years, 7 months ago
    lets rewind to yuesday shell we, MARCELO
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  2. AriseSirGiggsy
    14 years, 7 months ago
    Marcelo?
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Morrissey1986
14 years, 7 months ago
Thanks to all the people who enjoyed my back to back predictions today and if I won you money on predicting 2-1 Hernandez and 3-1 Stoke then I'm a happy man for you as well as me.
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Goose
14 years, 7 months ago
Got a Djourou & Luiz related problem now.

Was set to play both next week, now it's likely neither will play. 🙁
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1. Nomar
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Well, take some hits. I probably will do an 8 pointer next week now.
  
  Thinking of getting in Baines for Luiz and Skrtel for Huth the last 2 weeks.
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Attila the Bum
14 years, 7 months ago
So Mancs - if one of these was to leave this summer who would you rather see go?

A) Nani
B) Valencia
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1. DV8R
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Neither but if I had to choose, Nani.
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2. Boom!!!
  14 years, 7 months ago
  i know there is a chance of nani leaving but why would valencia leave?
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  1. andy85wsm
    14 years, 7 months ago
    that wasn't the point
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    1. Demí
      14 years, 7 months ago
      Boom in not understanding a post non-shocker.
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3. PFOR
  14 years, 7 months ago
  A)
  
  Without a doubt.
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4. AriseSirGiggsy
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Gosh.... neither reslly.
  But if you put a gun to my head, and considering the make-up of or squad at the moment... begrudgingly:
  
  A)
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  1. alsybach
    14 years, 7 months ago
    pass me a gun.........
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5. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Doubt either will leave so don't really get this post but I'd say Nani 😕
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flyover
14 years, 7 months ago
I don't know that I've ever had a week where not a single one of my FPL players was on a winning team. Yet it hasn't been so bad, in fantasy terms (47 points).
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CobraKai
14 years, 7 months ago
I hope next season they give cleansheet points for only 45 mins rather 60... its hard getting cleansheet points. Today is a prime example.
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1. Boom!!!
  14 years, 7 months ago
  no chance...
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2. andy85wsm
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Thats rubbish. Why does it matter anyway, everyone's in the same.boat?
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3. DV8R
  14 years, 7 months ago
  That's too easy. 60 mins is good enough
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4. Jimmers
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Another Huth owner?
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AP
14 years, 7 months ago
So big Question: Does SAF play 442 and attack Barca in a similar stylee or play Fletcher instead of Hernandez and play 451.

I personally don't think the 442 is anywhere near as effective away from OT, so i'd play tight, hit themm on the break. Woop wooop.
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1. Attila the Bum
  14 years, 7 months ago
  I'd back Hernandez to do well against Puyol
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  1. Granville
    14 years, 7 months ago
    And whoever is up against Alves. I think you have to play on the counter attack and try and keep it tight. Is there a better CB partnership in Europe than Ferdinand and Vidic? Fergie will be using his powers of psychology to make sure that none of our players are in awe of Barca and that they are beatable.
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2. Smell The Glove
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Seeing as cynical fouling of Barcelona doesn’t work, neither does defending deep, seems like a leftfield innovative tactic is needed against those pesky Catalans. How about this for a sneaky offence nullifying strategy that lets Sir Fergie take advantage of having TWIN Brazilian fullbacks.
  
  Fergie should drop Evra and play Rafael and Fabio as inverted fullbakcs. They should swap shirts too just for extra sneakiness. This gives a natural advantage to them against both Villa and Messi, usually deployed on the wide areas of Barcas front three, as Villa and Messi rarely cross and always cut in with the ball. We all know that playing inverted fullbacks means the twins will be on their stronger foot/side as Messi/Villa cut in and thus easier to foil the attack. And if Barca try to cross into the box from out wide, Utd have the giants Rio and Vidic to clean up.
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3. Boom!!!
  14 years, 7 months ago
  4-5-1 is the way to play barca imo and it will be interesting to see who will play rb as well?fabio or o'shea...
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4. andy85wsm
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Part of me thinks just go for it, nothing to lose as underdogs. Or play 4-4-2 and still include fletch?
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5. Gargamel
  14 years, 7 months ago
  I think going for the attack is smarter. Playing on the Break against Barcelona isn't great imo, as you're fooked when Barcelona score anyway.
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6. Just Ruud
  14 years, 7 months ago
  With Rooney in there its practically 451 anyway,dont see why he wld leave Hernandez out anyway,the kid is on fire
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  1. Gargamel
    14 years, 7 months ago
    The difference between 442 and 451 usually isn't just dropping a forward down to midfield though
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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      14 years, 7 months ago
      Please see video of our performances against them in the 2008 semi.
      
      Narrow back 4, clsoing down full backs and 1 striker sat on DM.
      Pressure high up the pitch will present opportunities to Rooney, on whom our success in the game will inevitably rest
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  2. Jermaine Chigurh
    14 years, 7 months ago
    I think Man U's game at the Emirates last Sunday disproves this. They were easily outnumbered in midfield.
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7. Jermaine Chigurh
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Arsenal's apporach in their 2-1 win should be the blueprint. Press them high up the pitch and exploit the space left by their full-backs.
  
  There's more risk of being demolished, but in the Champions League final, it doesn't matter if you lose 1-0 or 5-0 anyway.
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8. JoeWasEre
  14 years, 7 months ago
  Play same as today; 4-4-1-1, but with Nani over Tony V, and + Evra, obviously.
  
  When the opposition plays 4-3-3 they are met by two banks of four.
  
  I also think Park has to start 0_o
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dreamwarrior
14 years, 7 months ago
Who's more vulnerable to Vermaelen's potential return: Djorou or Koscielny? I'd assume the former?
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dave_the_bear
14 years, 7 months ago
NEW POST
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Scoredelario
14 years, 7 months ago
4 defenders played. Combined score minus 2
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cullieh
14 years, 7 months ago
hi fellas. only online now.please tell me please that vidic assist and bonus will be taken away and given to park. surely there has to be a mistake is there? tks
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