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11 June 2014 1183 comments
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After weeks of deliberating and a couple of false starts, the official FIFA McDonald’s game was rolled out a couple of days ago. A popular choice amongst Fantasy managers for the previous World Cup and Euro 2012, you can find an excellent overview of the basics provided by Bonz in his recent community submission:

With those principles covered, we’ll spend some time in this guide to try and shed some light on the more contentious issues surrounding the rules, suggesting how this might shape the final tweaks in our selection strategy.

The Ruleset

Not for the first time with a Fantasy game based on an international tournament – confusion reigns. While FIFA have revisited their rules laid out when the game initially launched, tweaking the scoring for “Balls Recovered” and adding further detail to how transfers work, in both cases we’re still lacking clarity.

Team Selection
Thankfully, the biggest area of confusion has been ironed out. FIFA have now confirmed that players who have already featured can be swapped during the current round for any relevant player in a squad who has not yet taken to the pitch – essentially, players in a starting XI are not locked in, with the “stick or twist” feature now in play. FIFA has also confirmed that you can change captain as long as your new captain has not already played.

You can change every player in your line-up that has already played during the current round for any other relevant player in your squad that hasn’t already played. You can also change the captain as long as the new captain hasn’t already started to play. For example if you have placed NEYMAR on Your Pitch and he did not perform as well as you expected after the first match you can replace him with a forward from your bench that hasn’t already played during the current round. You would lose the points from NEYMAR for the round but the new player might get more points.

Scoring Points – The Recovered Ball Puzzle
We now move to how our squad actually scores points and an area of considerable confusion. FIFA’s game, as we’ve seen in the past, includes statistics such as “Balls Recovered” and “Balls Delivered into the Penalty Area” within their scoring matrix. Neither is defined in the rules.

We’ve contacted FIFA for clarification but, as it stands, remain in the dark as to how both these scoring methods are defined.

We have some familiarity with “Recovered Balls” or “Recoveries” courtesy of other games such as the Champions League affair and via OPTA’s data definition. The latter states the following:

“This is where a player wins back the ball when it has gone loose or where the ball has been played directly to him.”

This definition created the following top ten players for Recoveries from last season’s Premier League season.

PlayerTeamMinutes PlayedRecoveriesMins/Per Recovery
CameronSTO347120916.61
Ward (Joel)CPL341919917.18
ColemanEVE340218718.19
KoscielnyARS287417616.33
ShawSOT314717517.98
IvanovicCHE335916819.99
SkrtelLIV339116520.55
FonteSOT336016420.49
SagnaARS322116319.76
LovrenSOT294016118.26

However, when we compare this to data from the last World Cup Fantasy game in 2010 (credit to Billy Gilmore’s recent Hot Topic), there’s every indication that the OPTA definition is not the one likely to be used in the FIFA game. Here’s a table listing the top players from that World Cup, ranked by minutes per “Recovered Ball”.

PlayerCountryAppearancesMinutes PlayedRB per gameMins per RB
CoentraoPortugal43603.3327.00
BougherraAlgeria32702.6733.75
ChavezHonduras32702.3338.57
IzaguirreHonduras21802.0039.00
PantsilSouth Africa55102.0045.00
GrichtingSwitzerland32702.0045.00
OnyewuUSA21701.6754.00
R CostaPortugal21791.6056.25
DemelIvory Coast21801.5760.00
ShittuNigeria32701.5060.00

In all cases, the minutes per Recovery, or “Recovered Balls” were far greater in the FIFA data – suggesting that this method of scoring may not be as significant as we imagine. Indeed, with all players now having to earn two recovered balls to score a single point, we should, perhaps, show caution here.

Having said that, we have to presume that FIFA have done some modeling and that this has influenced their player pricing. Certainly it appears that defensive stats – either Recovered Balls or Blocks, have played some part in how they have produced their pricing.

Notably players like Omar Gonzalez and Geoff Cameron both of USA (5.0), are relatively high priced, presumably because, in their case, Recovered Balls and Blocks are expected to be a factor. As we see above, Cameron ranked very highly for recovered balls in the Premier League last season, while Gonzalez, a formidable, towering figure in the American defence, is presumably consider a likely consistent barrier for shots on goal.

The lack of a clear definition makes the effectiveness of Recovered Balls a mystery to us. The player pricing in the game pushes us towards cheap defenders from unfancied sides, in hope that Recovered Balls and Blocks can subsidise the inevitable lack of clean sheets. Right now, it’s not known if this strategy will pay off but, giving the aggressive price list – we’ve little option but to adopt this approach, at least to some extent.

Interestingly, Gary Medel of Chile, a player who normally plies his trade in midfield, is priced at 6.5 in the game, making him by far the most expensive Chilean defender. Presumably because FIFA have based this price on his performances in the Premier League where he made 206 Recoveries and 12 Blocks. He’s likely to be deployed at centre-back for his nation in the tournament: it’s hard to say whether that will enable him to justify his price tag.

We can further speculate on Phillip Lahm and Cesar Azpilicueta. Both are defined as midfielders in the FIFA game but are set to be deployed at full-back. Again, it’s unclear whether this misclassification will help their cause. It should be noted that, as of this evening, FIFA changed their rules meaning that midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls, rather than the original one, to earn a point.

Delivered Balls
Scoring from attacking actions is no better defined. The game states that all players earn a point for every two balls delivered into the penalty area. Again, there’s no clear definition of this but we have to presume that this includes crosses from wide positions and passes into the box. Similarly, we have to presume that, in both cases, these have to be successful, eg: they have to find team-mates. Finally, we can presume that dead-ball deliveries count.

In all cases we’re speculating and making assumptions because there is no clear definition. Again though, we have to accept that FIFA have modeled this scoring and that this has influence the player price list. Certainly, with Andres Iniesta valued at 8.5 – the top priced midfielder – there’s a suggestion that completed passes into the opposing box will be a strong factor.

Once more, the aggressive pricing has forced our hand to some degree when it comes to our midfield choice. We are drawn towards a proportion of cheaper, defensively-minded midfield options from the lesser sides – hoping that Recovered Balls and Blocks play their part. However, set-piece delivery, crosses and completed passes in the attacking third also have to be considered. This could make a player like Steven Gerrard, an individual who ticks both defensive and attacking boxes, a key figure. A price of 7.5 would certainly suggest that FIFA expect him to score strongly.

With set-pieces a likely factor, you should know that we’ve recently updated our set-piece table to list those players who are likely to be on dead-ball delivery for their respective sides.

In conclusion, the McDonald’s backed FIFA game has already proved a frustrating affair that lacks clarity and has us Fantasy Managers embarking on the tournament with so many unanswered questions. We’ve fired this issues to FIFA in hope we’ll get some clarity and, if it arrives, we’ll be sure to update you before Thursday’s deadline. For now though, the official game remains as clear as Ronald McDonald’s conscience. A real shame.

The Fantasy Football Scout League

Despite the issues, the official FIFA game remains a popular pursuit around these parts. We’ve set up an official FFS league which you can join by clicking this link.

*Edit*
Please note that this article was edited from the first draft after FIFA updated their rules on Wednesday evening, just 24-hours before deadline. As mentioned in the article, according to the new edited published rules, midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls rather than one, to earn a point.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Twelve years a slave
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    Looks fairly certain won't be able to change formation. On the pitch view when you click to remove a midfielder it only gives option to bring in another midfielder.

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    1. Root
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      Just select the desired formation from the drop-down list. Sure, it might remove your 4-goal Neymar, but it's better than nothing!

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        Exactly, there seems no control over who it removes

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        1. RedLightning
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          • 15 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          It should be possible to avoid this problem by benching the player you wish to remove BEFORE changing the formation.

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    2. dmcqt
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      • 15 Years
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      It seems the same way to me too. This makes a big difference to team selection. It means it's more important to be balanced in each of the three outfield areas. It also means there's more attraction to having a handful of relatively reliable Belgian players who can be the last to be transferred in at the end of each of the first three matchdays.

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  2. Louis
    • 13 Years
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    A. Benzema and Kokorin
    B. Giroud and Lukaku

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    1. Pedram
      • 12 Years
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      A

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    2. KujaliaFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      B

      Giroud for the golden boot.

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  3. Vote Joke
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Man, have I done this right?

    A) I have: JRod, Espinoza, Suarez
    B) I had: Busquets, Azpil, Cavani
    C) I was hovering over, Moutinho, William, Muller

    Which is best? Thank you ever so much.

    Donald: Professor of Science & Film

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  4. The Ligs
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    RMT Please McDs

    Dauda - Karnezis - Mbolhi

    Alderweireld - Schaer - Kolasinac - Blind - Zapata - Medjani - Sadeghi

    Cuadrado - Lallana - De Bruyne - De Guzman - Valbuena - Endo - Serey Die - Bentaleb

    Neymar - Diego Costa - Giroud - Dzeko - Jordan Ayew

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    1. Pedram
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Jordan Ayew won't play

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      1. The Ligs
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Scored a hat trick yesterday and Waris injured so I'll take my chances. He 5th striker anyway

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    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
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      Zapata isn't the first choice of Pekerman. He prefers Valdes.

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      1. The Ligs
        • 12 Years
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        Cheers for that

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  5. Nico.
    • 12 Years
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    Which mids do we think will be good for this scoring system then?

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    1. Pedram
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I dunno, the whole system is a mess.

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      1. Nico.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Hey you know anything about the Iran team? 🙂

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        1. Pedram
          • 12 Years
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          What do you want to know ?

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          1. Nico.
            • 12 Years
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            Any 1.0m starters?

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            1. Pedram
              • 12 Years
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              just Beikzadeh and Montazeri

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              1. Nico.
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                Nice! 😀 any for Algeria?

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                1. Pedram
                  • 12 Years
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                  Mbolhi

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                  1. Pedram
                    • 12 Years
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                    and Bentaleb

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          2. Nico.
            • 12 Years
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            Algerian info would be great too! 😀

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Set piece hoggers.

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      1. Nico.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        So you think Valbuena will do better than Pogba?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
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          I'd say so, aye.

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          1. Nico.
            • 12 Years
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            And Robben ahead of Rvp?

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
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              Ha, well that one is tougher. RVP is also on pens and a beast and has a share of set pieces himself.

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          2. Nico.
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            11 years, 6 months ago

            Anyway thanks! Gotta reshape my team then

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    3. asquishypotato
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Matuidi might benefit. Lots of recovered balls and passes made.

      Gerrard because of his delivery into the box.

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  6. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Asked earlier but barely a response, second time lucky!

    Thiago Silva, Begovic and Muller OR

    David Luiz, Courtois, and James Rodriguez.

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
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      b)

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    2. Weekend Seekers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      B for me

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      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        B is what I am also going with.

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  8. Weekend Seekers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A) J Rodriguez(COL) / Steve VON BERGEN ( SUI)

    OR

    B) Cuadrado (COL) / R Rodriguez (SUI)

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    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A.

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  9. pundit of punts
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    What would you prefer?

    A. Benzema+Ozil+Cuadrado
    B. Muleer+Cabaye+James Rodriguez

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    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      A

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  10. bigdon
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Oscar or Ozil,

    already have both muller and fred

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  11. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Any clarification regarding what McFIFA class as a 'recovered ball' yet?

    Can't really make my team until that gets sorted out.

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    1. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Never gonna happen Parm, take your best guess and run with it.

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    2. Weekend Seekers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      Read the article

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I have, just wondering whether anyone else has had an e-mail back.

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  12. The Baby-faced Assassin
    • 12 Years
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    Who is more likely to start, Varane or Sakho?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      Sakho, but both should.

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  13. spotfixers
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    Pogba KDB or Marchiso?

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    1. spotfixers
      • 12 Years
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      have 6.5 for a mid

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      KDB

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    3. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
      • 13 Years
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      KDB

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    4. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      I really like Pogba is this game, all-round players like him seem like they'll be well rewarded.

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  14. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Cillessen, Karnezis, Mbohli
    XXXXX, von Bergen, Rojo, XXXXX, Kombarov, Mesbah, Montazeri
    XXXXX, Ozil, Cuadrado, Valbuena, XXXXX, Delgado, Bentaleb, Beikzadeh
    Messi, Neymar, XXXXX, Lukaku, Heydari

    A: Ramos, Kolasinac (BOS DF), Fayzulin, Oscar, Higuain
    B: Alderweireld, Valdes (COL DF), Misimovic, Di Maria, Ronaldo

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Von Bergen AND Rojo? 🙂 Perhaps not.

      B for me.

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      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Ta Doos. Need to give it a proper examination/dissection tomorrow when I have more time. Have really been struggling the past few days..

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      2. Root
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        What's wrong with von Bergen AND Rojo?

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  15. Hazard267
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone having a problem on the Macdonalds game where it doesn't show the leagues your in?

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    1. Gatsby
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yep, only the ones you created.

      hopefully its fixed once they start

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    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Your e-mail was wanted by team leaders.

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    3. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Check my post on the next page JMB

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  16. Leeroy Jenkyns
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Blind or Janmaat? Janmaat seems more offensive than Blind.

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Blind needs a window of opportunity

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  17. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    A) Candreva & Vargas
    or
    B) Gago & Dzeko

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    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Isn't Gago injured?

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  18. VougieDipond
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    read some whispers on here that Ozil was not a starter for Germany. Does anyone know the source? I have just seen Bild newspaper (German version of The Sun) and they don't have Ozil in the team. Was just wondering if this was the only source of this rumour?

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      seems mental to me.

      In qualifying he was;

      1) Most appearances
      2) Most goals
      3) most assists.

      Would be insane if they dropped him with those stats!

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  19. Kevin Twine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Best striker for £7m? Dzeko? Drogba?

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  20. Weekend Seekers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Kroos or SCHWEINSTEIGER ?

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      The one in lower case

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        This ^^^.

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Kroos.

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  21. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Do you think Higuain and Fred have every chance of scoring as many as Neymar and Messi?

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      almost

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      1. Weekend Seekers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Penalties ... might make a difference

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Higuain's goal rate was about the same as Messi's in qualifying. Fred was not patch on Neymar.

      Neymar over Fred, comfortably. Messi isn't a huge UG on Higs if you go by form in qualifiers.

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    3. Timtastic03
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Scoring yes but I feel Messi and Neymar are more likely to be involved in every goal, i.e. if Argentina or Brazil do score, I expect Neymar and Messi to have at least assisted it.

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    4. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Absolutely. Lavezzi and Jo have almost as much chance.

      This isn't a 38 game season, it's a 7 game cup.

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    5. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Neymar on pens. Brazil at home, bound to get awarded a few of tem this tourney.

      Higuain could outscore Messi. I have Neymar and Higuain.

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    6. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Over three games...definitely...I'd favour the second pair but wouldn't be surprised at all if it was the first pair.

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  22. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Some clarification I want...If I play 4-3-3 formation...can I change it to 3-4-3 if one of my defenders doesn't perform? Or the formation remains locked? And also the team we choose gets locked for the whole group stages and we get to make transfers only at the knockout stages or do we get to make a transfer after the first round or so?

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  23. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Just been checking the archives to see what the manager subs rules were last time out, but can't see it detailed:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/category/world-cup/

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  24. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Sounds to me like the balls into the box routine may suit a tippy tippy style of play...Does anybody know any teams who play tippy tippy football ?...ball goes in, ball comes out, ball goes in, ball comes out...!!!..mmm

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  25. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    So, when clicking "my leagues" nothing come up.. Normal? Even though i am prretty damn sure i did join.

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Same problem for everyone so panic ye not.

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      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Okidoki

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  26. Mini League Fatigue
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Finally settling on a squad (my 5th today!) my last place will go to a midf up to 7m who to pick? currently considering

    Paulinho
    Xavi
    Xabi Alonso
    De Rossi
    Other?

    For completeness my team (excluding fillers) is

    Lloris
    Ric Rod, Luiz, Van Buyten, Balata, Chevelos
    J Rod, Cabaye, Gago, KDB
    Messi, Neymar, Lukak, Gervinho

    Cheers!

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  27. 13allack
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    "The sum of gaining possession tackles and clearances completed"
    That was the definition of a Recovered Ball back in 2010 in the McD game

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  28. dillydally1982
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    In the McDonalds/FIFA game, is it possible to make subs within the same matchday? For example - if a player disappoints in the early kick-off, can you sub him out for someone playing in a later kick-off,providing you do it before the later game kicks off?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Dhould be able to. But, we will all have to suck it and see ...

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  29. Pedram
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Pogba or Valbuena ?

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Valbuena.

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    2. Le Blues
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Depends on the game your playing?

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  30. Le Blues
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    anyone tried the fantasy mirror game for the world cup. seems quite good really
    if anyone is playing it , im open to few suggestions or advice about it

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