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11 June 2014 1183 comments
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After weeks of deliberating and a couple of false starts, the official FIFA McDonald’s game was rolled out a couple of days ago. A popular choice amongst Fantasy managers for the previous World Cup and Euro 2012, you can find an excellent overview of the basics provided by Bonz in his recent community submission:

With those principles covered, we’ll spend some time in this guide to try and shed some light on the more contentious issues surrounding the rules, suggesting how this might shape the final tweaks in our selection strategy.

The Ruleset

Not for the first time with a Fantasy game based on an international tournament – confusion reigns. While FIFA have revisited their rules laid out when the game initially launched, tweaking the scoring for “Balls Recovered” and adding further detail to how transfers work, in both cases we’re still lacking clarity.

Team Selection
Thankfully, the biggest area of confusion has been ironed out. FIFA have now confirmed that players who have already featured can be swapped during the current round for any relevant player in a squad who has not yet taken to the pitch – essentially, players in a starting XI are not locked in, with the “stick or twist” feature now in play. FIFA has also confirmed that you can change captain as long as your new captain has not already played.

You can change every player in your line-up that has already played during the current round for any other relevant player in your squad that hasn’t already played. You can also change the captain as long as the new captain hasn’t already started to play. For example if you have placed NEYMAR on Your Pitch and he did not perform as well as you expected after the first match you can replace him with a forward from your bench that hasn’t already played during the current round. You would lose the points from NEYMAR for the round but the new player might get more points.

Scoring Points – The Recovered Ball Puzzle
We now move to how our squad actually scores points and an area of considerable confusion. FIFA’s game, as we’ve seen in the past, includes statistics such as “Balls Recovered” and “Balls Delivered into the Penalty Area” within their scoring matrix. Neither is defined in the rules.

We’ve contacted FIFA for clarification but, as it stands, remain in the dark as to how both these scoring methods are defined.

We have some familiarity with “Recovered Balls” or “Recoveries” courtesy of other games such as the Champions League affair and via OPTA’s data definition. The latter states the following:

“This is where a player wins back the ball when it has gone loose or where the ball has been played directly to him.”

This definition created the following top ten players for Recoveries from last season’s Premier League season.

PlayerTeamMinutes PlayedRecoveriesMins/Per Recovery
CameronSTO347120916.61
Ward (Joel)CPL341919917.18
ColemanEVE340218718.19
KoscielnyARS287417616.33
ShawSOT314717517.98
IvanovicCHE335916819.99
SkrtelLIV339116520.55
FonteSOT336016420.49
SagnaARS322116319.76
LovrenSOT294016118.26

However, when we compare this to data from the last World Cup Fantasy game in 2010 (credit to Billy Gilmore’s recent Hot Topic), there’s every indication that the OPTA definition is not the one likely to be used in the FIFA game. Here’s a table listing the top players from that World Cup, ranked by minutes per “Recovered Ball”.

PlayerCountryAppearancesMinutes PlayedRB per gameMins per RB
CoentraoPortugal43603.3327.00
BougherraAlgeria32702.6733.75
ChavezHonduras32702.3338.57
IzaguirreHonduras21802.0039.00
PantsilSouth Africa55102.0045.00
GrichtingSwitzerland32702.0045.00
OnyewuUSA21701.6754.00
R CostaPortugal21791.6056.25
DemelIvory Coast21801.5760.00
ShittuNigeria32701.5060.00

In all cases, the minutes per Recovery, or “Recovered Balls” were far greater in the FIFA data – suggesting that this method of scoring may not be as significant as we imagine. Indeed, with all players now having to earn two recovered balls to score a single point, we should, perhaps, show caution here.

Having said that, we have to presume that FIFA have done some modeling and that this has influenced their player pricing. Certainly it appears that defensive stats – either Recovered Balls or Blocks, have played some part in how they have produced their pricing.

Notably players like Omar Gonzalez and Geoff Cameron both of USA (5.0), are relatively high priced, presumably because, in their case, Recovered Balls and Blocks are expected to be a factor. As we see above, Cameron ranked very highly for recovered balls in the Premier League last season, while Gonzalez, a formidable, towering figure in the American defence, is presumably consider a likely consistent barrier for shots on goal.

The lack of a clear definition makes the effectiveness of Recovered Balls a mystery to us. The player pricing in the game pushes us towards cheap defenders from unfancied sides, in hope that Recovered Balls and Blocks can subsidise the inevitable lack of clean sheets. Right now, it’s not known if this strategy will pay off but, giving the aggressive price list – we’ve little option but to adopt this approach, at least to some extent.

Interestingly, Gary Medel of Chile, a player who normally plies his trade in midfield, is priced at 6.5 in the game, making him by far the most expensive Chilean defender. Presumably because FIFA have based this price on his performances in the Premier League where he made 206 Recoveries and 12 Blocks. He’s likely to be deployed at centre-back for his nation in the tournament: it’s hard to say whether that will enable him to justify his price tag.

We can further speculate on Phillip Lahm and Cesar Azpilicueta. Both are defined as midfielders in the FIFA game but are set to be deployed at full-back. Again, it’s unclear whether this misclassification will help their cause. It should be noted that, as of this evening, FIFA changed their rules meaning that midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls, rather than the original one, to earn a point.

Delivered Balls
Scoring from attacking actions is no better defined. The game states that all players earn a point for every two balls delivered into the penalty area. Again, there’s no clear definition of this but we have to presume that this includes crosses from wide positions and passes into the box. Similarly, we have to presume that, in both cases, these have to be successful, eg: they have to find team-mates. Finally, we can presume that dead-ball deliveries count.

In all cases we’re speculating and making assumptions because there is no clear definition. Again though, we have to accept that FIFA have modeled this scoring and that this has influence the player price list. Certainly, with Andres Iniesta valued at 8.5 – the top priced midfielder – there’s a suggestion that completed passes into the opposing box will be a strong factor.

Once more, the aggressive pricing has forced our hand to some degree when it comes to our midfield choice. We are drawn towards a proportion of cheaper, defensively-minded midfield options from the lesser sides – hoping that Recovered Balls and Blocks play their part. However, set-piece delivery, crosses and completed passes in the attacking third also have to be considered. This could make a player like Steven Gerrard, an individual who ticks both defensive and attacking boxes, a key figure. A price of 7.5 would certainly suggest that FIFA expect him to score strongly.

With set-pieces a likely factor, you should know that we’ve recently updated our set-piece table to list those players who are likely to be on dead-ball delivery for their respective sides.

In conclusion, the McDonald’s backed FIFA game has already proved a frustrating affair that lacks clarity and has us Fantasy Managers embarking on the tournament with so many unanswered questions. We’ve fired this issues to FIFA in hope we’ll get some clarity and, if it arrives, we’ll be sure to update you before Thursday’s deadline. For now though, the official game remains as clear as Ronald McDonald’s conscience. A real shame.

The Fantasy Football Scout League

Despite the issues, the official FIFA game remains a popular pursuit around these parts. We’ve set up an official FFS league which you can join by clicking this link.

*Edit*
Please note that this article was edited from the first draft after FIFA updated their rules on Wednesday evening, just 24-hours before deadline. As mentioned in the article, according to the new edited published rules, midfielders now need to earn two recovered balls rather than one, to earn a point.

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  1. LewanGOALski
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    Last doubt in my team:

    Kroos or Xabi Alonso ?

    No other coverages from those teams.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Kroos.

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Kroos for his goal threat

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      1. LewanGOALski
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        Alonso on penos, indirect FKs and maybe some corners too though...

        And I suppose he has better potential for RBs, doesn't he..?

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        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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          There you go then....

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    3. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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      Neither

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    4. Thomass
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      Go Alonso as I've got Kroos

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  2. dillydally1982
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    Do we anticipate much difference between Ramos & Alba? Could do with saving 0.5m and going with Alba.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      I have. Right from the start.

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    2. Deulo10
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      I'd go with Alba anyway. But the only problem is Alba could miss the opening game.

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
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      I'm going Ramos. I fancy him to bag a goal and he's all action. Could = a red card, but I'm hoping for plenty of blocks and RBs

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  3. BigManBakar
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    JuanMataBeast, I need to contact me @ bigmanbakar@gmail.com ASAP! If you don't, I'm afraid I will be left with no option to remove you from our squad

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Cor!!! 🙂

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    2. Hazard267
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      OKKKKKKKKKK

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    3. Dr Dream
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      It's all kicking off today..First of all Hitler sacks Sporting and now this...

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  4. Damo.
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    Bollocks to fantasy. Football FTW!

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      😯 GET OUT!

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      1. Damo.
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        😀 Just excited about the tournament is all. I don't want to be gutted cos Ahmadinejad missed 3 interceptions.

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        1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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          I know. It's World Cup Eve! eeeeeeehhhh

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  5. pundit of punts
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    Any 1.5m playing defender who isn't an Iranian or an Algerian?

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    1. BantamPhil
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      Don't think there is any

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  6. Timtastic03
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    Deciding whether to go with attacking / defensive mids is doing my head in :/
    Cuadrado, Xabi Alonso, Paulinho or any Italian mid?

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    1. Messimerized- Join My FPL L…
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      Cuad

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  7. Louis
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    Is James worth the upgrade over Cuadrado?

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    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      Some say yes, mostly due to set pieces. I say no.

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  8. KujaliaFC
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    Word on the street is that Koscielny won't start.

    Say it ain't so!

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    1. Parm
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      It is so.

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  9. lfcindo
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    Brazil's second game is earlier than Russia's first game. How do we swap players on that day?

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  10. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Best Swiss players to have?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      defenders. Schaer

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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        (Do you believe in life after love?)

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    2. Weekend Seekers
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      R Rodriguez or Shaqiri

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    3. LOCO ABREU
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      a defender imo, shaer or rodriguez

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    4. teddy.
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      Or Stocker

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  11. Weekend Seekers
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    McD - Valbuena or Matuidi or Pogba or Cabaye ?

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    1. emperikal
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      Valbuena or Pogba though the former is cheaper

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  12. Zimppa
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    Hi guys, couple of quick ones:

    1. Rodriguez or Özil?
    2. Too risky to play with only three top strikers and two fillers? Currently (Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar).

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    1. Weekend Seekers
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      Haven't played a fantasy in France.. Sick of Ozil after this year FPL.... so Rodriguez

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  13. The Sarjeant
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    Team Cameroon, check your emails!

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    1. The Hound
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      Sweet, I'm in......u happy with ure team? Any news if u can swap formations when making a sub?

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      1. The Sarjeant
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        Nope, I'm still tinkering! Are you?

        And I haven't heard anything yet.

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        1. The Hound
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          Yeah I'm happy with team just ideally need to find out this formation puzzle. May change one or two things but I think it's nicely balanced at mo.

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    2. Gilbo88
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      Done

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  14. BantamPhil
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    RMT?

    This only includes my players who are likely to start:

    Cesar (Mbolhi)
    Rojo, Cholevas, Evra (Durm, Kombarov, Medjani)
    Iniesta, Gerrard, Cabaye, Rodriguez (Di Maria, Beikzadeh, Bentaleb)
    Neymar, Higuain, Benzema (Heydari)

    Thanks 🙂

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  15. Le Blues
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    repost- stuck on last comment

    anyone tried the fantasy mirror game for the world cup. seems quite good really
    if anyone is playing it , im open to few suggestions or advice about it

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    1. Damo.
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      Just make sure you have players on your bench to bring in for Bra/Mexico players for the 2nd GW. Try and sort out what you plan to do over the 3 rounds. You don't want to be stuck with 5/6 players who are already through and being rested with only 3 transfers.

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      1. Le Blues
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        Yea, those were on my mind

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  16. BigManBakar
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    Follow Team Ghana on twitter!
    https://twitter.com/Ghana_FFS

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  17. mccormibar
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    Pogba or James Rod?

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  18. wagner is king
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    what % is casar azpi gonna start?

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  19. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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    Do you feel the knee jerk coming I'm shaky as a parkinson patient....

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  20. PGR
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    Is anyone going with a 4-3-3 in the FOX game?

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    1. King H
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      Me ..

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  21. GoonerByron
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    Simple question.. Fred or Higuain to double up with Messi and Neymar?

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    1. BantamPhil
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      Higuain

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    2. King H
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      Fred

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
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      definitely Higs.

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    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
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      Fred is the swedish word for peace, oh and a name of course

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  22. KujaliaFC
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    Surely if a change of formation subs out one of your productive players, you can swap them back?

    Surely subs are only finalised once you click "Confirm"?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      There is no confirm is there?

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      1. KujaliaFC
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        There is confirmation when you make transfers.

        Why not for subs?

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        1. Epic Fail
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          Ah right. No idea. Bit of a shambles.

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  23. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Set piece taker table updated. Sanchez second choice penalty taker if Vidal is unavailable.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/world-cup-set-piece-table/

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    1. pundit of punts
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      Nice. Feeling justified with my Sanchez pick in the Fox game now.

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      1. Dr Dream
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        Same for me..although Lucky Lukaku seems to be fit again..

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    2. Mr Sarcastic
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      Is that defender Rodriquez on free kicks or is there another one...?

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
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        for Switzerland btw 😳

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      2. LOCO ABREU
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        is him

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        1. Mr Sarcastic
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          okay thanks, difficult to decide between him, shaer and that 4 m man who's name I don't remember right now

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    3. Parm
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      Excellent, cheers Jonty.

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  24. pundit of punts
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    How many big hitting strikers are you going with?

    I currently have 4 in Messi,Neymar,Benzema and RVP but not too sure.

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    1. Epic Fail
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      4

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
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      3.5

      I'll probably go with Ronaldo, Higs/Messi, Neymar and Lukaku

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    3. The Hound
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      Thinking of just 3 because if they all fire I wouldn't wanna leave a messi or muller on the bench.

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    4. LOCO ABREU
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      team with how many starters?

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      1. pundit of punts
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        21

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        1. LOCO ABREU
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          good!

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    5. Mr Sarcastic
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      atm only Messi, Neymar, Lukaku + cheapies, but thinking is this too risky 🙁

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  25. The Baby-faced Assassin
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    Valbuena or Di Maria? I have Messi and Benzima.

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
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      Di Maria will beast this World Cup

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      1. ORDER
        • 14 Years
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        Di Maria for sure.

        Maybe Aguero or Higuain rather than Messi? I expect he'll be heavily marked as usual leaving more space others

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  26. The Pep Revolution
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    Is it possible to change your username in the McDonalds game?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Not that I can see, unless you make a new account.

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    2. Weekend Seekers
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      Dont think so.. Couldn't find any option.. Happy that I am not the only one

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  27. 7shadesofsmoke
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    here's one for ya.

    A) Alves + Higuain
    B) Messi + Vertonghen

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
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      a)

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        I think so too. No Belgium cover in DF but i think i feel better with that than no Brazil DF

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  28. Twelve years a slave
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    Can you take the armband off a player (thats played) and keep that player on the pitch?

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    1. The Sarjeant
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      Yes.

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    2. pundit of punts
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      Now this is a good question. I guess no one knows the answer.

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
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      the captain selection tool makes me ASSUME that you can. F' knows in all honesty

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    4. RedLightning
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      You could in 2010 (unless he was red-carded, in which case he had to remain captain).
      It would be ridiculous if you can't.

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  29. Prime
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    Belgian coach: "Lukaku is 100%"

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    1. Mr Sarcastic
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      doubtful

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  30. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Is KDB the most popular Belgian waffle on here?

    Anyone got Hazard or Lukaku?

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
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      KDB and Lukaku for me.

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