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18 June 2014 2465 comments
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Fantasy managers will be looking for an improvement from this eveningโ€™s three fixtures after yesterdayโ€™s schedule served up just five goals. The first match on our agenda bodes well for Fantasy returns as Holland square up to Australia on the back of a stunning 5-1 triumph over defending champions Spain last time around:

Holland: Cillessen; Janmaat, Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi, Blind; De Jong, De Guzman, Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben

Australia: Ryan; McGowan, Wilkinson, Spiranovic, Davidson; Jedinak, McKay, Bresciano; Leckie, Cahill, Oar

Unsurprisingly, Louis Van Gaal names an unchanged side after last weekโ€™s humbling of Spain. Holland are expected to line up in a 5-3-2 formation once again, then, with Daley Blind and Daryl Janmaat handed the wing-back role, while front two Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie will be hoping to maintain the form that saw both score twice in their Group B opener.

Australia make a couple of alterations from the side that lost to Chile. Ivan Franjic is out with a hamstring injury, allowing Ryan McGowan the chance to deputise at right-back, whilst in central midfield, Matt McKay comes in for Mark Milligan. As always, Tim Cahill carries the main threat as the former Everton man looks to get amongst the goals again, having netted in last weekโ€™s 3-1 loss.

Following that one, Spain square up to Chile in a must-win Group B match. Their humbling by the Dutch, allied with the South Americanโ€™s opening win over the Aussies, means Vicente del Bosqueโ€™s side have it all to do โ€“ if Holland win in the earlier match, a victory for Chile would send the Spaniards tumbling out after just two games. Diego Costaโ€™s starting role looks under threat in light of a poor display against the Dutch, whilst Fantasy managers will be hoping del Bosqueโ€™s side can replicate the resilience that made their defence such strong options in the previous couple of international tournaments. Chile will look to Alexis Sanchez to maintain the form that saw him produce a goal and assist in the 3-1 win over Australia, though Jorge Valdivia and Eduardo Vargas are also in form, having served up a goal and assist respectively last time around.

The late 11pm kick-off sees Croatia take on Cameroon as both sides attempt to bounce back from Matchday 1 defeats. Suspended for the loss to Brazil, Mario Mandzukic is available once again and is expected to lead the line โ€“ with Ivan Rakitic, Luka Modric and Ivan Perisic supplying the guile from midfield, Niko Kovacโ€™s side may well prove too strong for their opponents. The Africans are sweating on the fitness of Samuel Etoโ€™o ahead of tonightโ€™s game โ€“ the veteranโ€™s potential absence could afford Vincent Aboubakar his first start of the tournament in a reshuffle up top.

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  1. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Why no assist for Blind? He is my captain

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      anyone?

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  2. Konig Luther
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    De Guzman assist?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      yes

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      How much you got on?

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      1. Shakshuka
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        500, bet a decent amount on overs now to cover up

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          500 @60/1 or 500 winnings? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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          1. Shakshuka
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            me and a friend got 500 each @60/1

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            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Holy f**k! 30k each riding on this rollercoaster...

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              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Ho. Lee. Funk.

                Good luck man!!

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        2. Fray Bentos
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Nice ๐Ÿ™‚

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        3. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          500 what?

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    2. Telpuialion
      • 12 Years
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      Hope you win!

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    3. Old Schoolแดผหข “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Screenshot please.....

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      1. Old Schoolแดผหข “disa…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Thats a crazy bet... 30k winnings deserves a screenshot

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        1. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          30k winnings deserves a share with everyone here

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  3. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    @Billy Gilmore.

    The group D league has updated with scores. Do we still all need to fill in that form? Or are you happy just to take our scores from there? Still pretty sure some CS pts need to be removed.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      *Goals conceded pts

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, still need the forms for that very reason. And for verification purposes.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        So do we claim our actual score, or what the score should be?

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Ah I see you do that bit.

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Leave it as actual for now. We'll worry about what happens with McD after.

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    3. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      it includes the brz v mex game though.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Ah fair point

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  4. tw
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Why take Cahill off though?

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  5. Camp No No
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone from team Iran around? check your email, I need opinions on my next McD moves, and I don't mean ordering Big Mac or McNuggets.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Quarter Pounder (c)

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      1. The Hound
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Nah big tasty has got the form

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  6. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Should bury that De jong.

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      No need to bury him just because he missed! Jeez...

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        ๐Ÿ˜€

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      If it was someone's face he would've

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        ๐Ÿ˜†

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  7. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    One more Holland please, got you -1 come on!

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    1. Telpuialion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      What does -1 mean? Sorry, no betting allowed here so don't know very well how that works.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Means Australia start with a 1 goal head start. So basically Hollland have to win by 2 clear goals for him to win his bet.

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        1. Telpuialion
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Ahhh I see. Thanks!

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      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        Holland have to win by 2 as it's effectively 3-3 according to the bet.

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        1. Telpuialion
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Got it! Thanks!

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      3. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        no betting allowed here? ๐Ÿ˜†

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Where he lives I imagine...

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            aye, can't see it happening now

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          2. Telpuialion
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Yup, pretty sure it is illegal in the USA. Never really looked into it tbh.

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              This is the same country that has Las Vegas ๐Ÿ˜€

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              1. Telpuialion
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                ๐Ÿ˜€ There's gambling and then sports betting and then state laws. Somewhere in there, there's something that says one can't. No idea ๐Ÿ˜€

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                1. thermogimp
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Can't bet online in the states. You can certainly go to Vegas or any local casino and place sports bets.

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  8. LOCO ABREU
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    de guzman assist for depay

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  9. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Just switched the Holland game on. The commentator said it was two RVP goals. What's he chatting?!

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    1. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      shite

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      bollix by the sound of it.

      Robben, RVP, Depay

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  10. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Concrete Ron. Beast

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  11. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 6 months ago

    Everyone get voting for RvP for MOTM!

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=255931/match=300186478/man-of-the-match.html

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      * Robben ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      done.

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    3. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      actually depay deserves it

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    4. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 6 months ago

      who wants chile to get through like me ?

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        I'd love to see them go through.

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  12. JT's Dog
      11 years, 6 months ago

      Defenders now getting minus points for goals against in mcds

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      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        The MacD's game is beyond a joke

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      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 6 months ago

        The Spaniards?

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        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Takes a little longer to add up.

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        2. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          still without conceeded

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        3. JT's Dog
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Jan maat got -1 for me for goals against

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            1. JT's Dog
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Probably supposed to be for pen conceded but who knows with this lot

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          • 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            awesome. We base our substitutions on scores and then they change them.

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        4. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Blind assist for the first Robben goal no?

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          1. Studgie G
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            McD no in most of the others yeah

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          2. kim don juan
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Get messaging them.

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        5. Prime
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Don't think I've ever seen De Jong play a bad game

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          1. Werkself
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            2010 WC final?

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          2. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            How many reds has he got in his career?

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        6. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Do we think Robben will be rested vs Chile?

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
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            Yup

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          2. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Depends on the result of the later game.

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            1. Bubz
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              If Spain win he's rested you think?

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              1. Bubz
                • 12 Years
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                Chile*

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              2. Billy Gilmore
                • 13 Years
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                Of course.

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          3. LOCO ABREU
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            yeah maybe

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          4. Fray Bentos
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Not if chile win later

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          5. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Only if the group is already won.

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        7. crystalpalaceRus
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          Valdivia(c) lets do this

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          1. Give The Todd Some Love
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Is he starting?

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          2. Studgie G
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Sanchez is where it's at, hope you enjoy Valdivia's assists ๐Ÿ™‚

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            1. crystalpalaceRus
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              He scored last game...

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              1. Studgie G
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                I know just saying because i have Sanchez ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          3. Engall7
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Not starting. He's gonna in at 60'

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        8. Studgie G
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 6 months ago

          RVP and Robben getting a goal each is perfect for me aswell as dutch cleanies gone for McD game, I can gain ground this round

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        9. JT's Dog
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Nearly three days till my next player plays
            Might go outside for a while

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            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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          • JK - Cønt โญ
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            NUMBER 51 ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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            1. SPorting
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              I'd want to see evidence first.

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              1. JK - Cønt โญ
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                In fairness he said he'd put that bet on at HT, not after Depay's goal

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          • 4vets
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Who bet on 3-2? Bloody awesome!

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            1. JK - Cønt โญ
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Top of the page mate

              Guy just won 30k

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              1. 4vets
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Ooooh!

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            2. Billy Gilmore
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              He's making 30k of whatever currency he bet in ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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          • 7shadesofsmoke
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Well, I enjoyed the game but not as much as somebody on here...

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            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              perfect timing ๐Ÿ˜€

              vvvvvvvvvvvvvv

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          • Shakshuka
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            HOLY MOTHER OF GOD ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              It was lucky ๐Ÿ˜‰

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            2. JK - Cønt โญ
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Insane.

              Well done

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            3. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Sterling? Dollars? Kroner? Euros?

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              1. Shakshuka
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Bet in kroner (5k) converted to sterling 500

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                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  ๐Ÿ˜ฏ You just won £30,000? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜†

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                  1. Shakshuka
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 6 months ago

                    Yeah, me and a mate 500 each ๐Ÿ˜€

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                2. Werkself
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Where's the party?

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                3. Billy Gilmore
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 6 months ago

                  Very nice. The drinks are on you then, ay? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  I was happy with my $110!

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              2. Billy Gilmore
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Zimbabwean Dollars

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            4. Konig Luther
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              buy some McDonalds now

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              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                haha, treat himself to a 'large' meal.

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            5. LOCO ABREU
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Congrats!hehe! ๐Ÿ™‚

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            6. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Congratulations mate!

              FFS subscriptions for all!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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            7. Studgie G
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              shake your money maker ๐Ÿ˜€

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            8. kim don juan
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              I'm really happy for you.

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              1. kim don juan
                • 12 Years
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                Not jealous at all.

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                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 12 Years
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                  ๐Ÿ˜†

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            9. Your Mum's Athletic
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              well done (he says with gritted teeth) ๐Ÿ˜†

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            10. Shakshuka
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Thanks all! Crazy, surreal ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

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          • tw
            • 14 Years
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            So what percentage of goals have been own goals, GK errors, or penalties? Seems awfully high to me

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          • Studgie G
            • 14 Years
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            Harsh on the Aussies they did shoot themselves on the foot but this side is no where near the side or talents of the last one. They lacked Quality but still Dutch don't think they deserved anything.

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          • Konig Luther
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Leckie played very well... and was called just for this WC, because injuries

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          • Konig Luther
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Robben MOTM

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            1. LOCO ABREU
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              yes!!!!!!!!!!3baps in Fox

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              1. emperikal
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                Lovely ๐Ÿ˜€

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            2. Nice to Finally Michu
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Depay deserves it

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            3. pundit of punts
              • 12 Years
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              Nice.

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          • Nice to Finally Michu
            • 12 Years
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            Surely twist from Robben's 10 points score?

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          • Bøwstring The Carp
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Who do we all have in the next game?

            Just Busquets (c) here... hatrick incoming? ๐Ÿ˜›

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            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Ramos ©

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              1. emperikal
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 6 months ago

                This. CS + goal would be welcome

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                1. 7shadesofsmoke
                  • 12 Years
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                  fingers are crossed but after their last performance, I'm not as confident as i should be.

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            2. Studgie G
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              hattrick of fouls ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          • BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 6 months ago

            Anyone up for a quiz? Will help in killing the wait till the spanish game

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            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 6 months ago

              Lets do it!

              I have to stay awake for Spain vs Chile. Should be another cracker

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