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29 June 2014 3432 comments
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Sunday evening brings us another couple of World Cup fixtures to focus on after the knockout stages got underway last night. Louis Van Gaal’s free-scoring Holland are bidding to join Brazil and Colombia for a place in the last eight but face a tough task in the 5pm kick-off – opponents Mexico conceded just once in the group stages and have already stopped Neymar and co from finding the net:

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Blind; Verhaegh, De Jong, Wijnaldum Kuyt; Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben,

Mexico: Ochoa; Aguilar, Rodriguez, Marquez, Moreno, Layun; Herrera, Salcido, Guardado; Dos Santos, Peralta,

The Dutch welcome back Robin Van Persie from suspension after their skipper served a one-match ban against Chile in the previous match. Van Persie is one of only two changes to the XI that beat the South Americans, with Paul Verhaegh replacing Daryl Janmaat on the right of the midfield four – Dirk Kuyt keeps his place on the opposite flank, with Daley Blind utilised in the back-three once again by Van Gaal. The United striker will be hoping to continue the form that has seen him score in both his appearances thus far, whilst Arjen Robben owners will also have high expectations after the Bayern man served up three goals and an assist over the group stages.

Mexico make just one enforced alteration from the side that won 3-1 against Croatia in the final match of Group A, with former Fulham man Carlos Salcido handed his first start of the tournament. Up front, Giovanni dos Santos will be desperate to open his account for the campaign, whilst his fellow forward Oribe Peralta – along with skipper Rafael Marquez – has already chipped in with a goal and assist over the opening three fixtures.

Later this evening, Costa Rica and Greece go head-to-head after both sides exceeded our expectations to reach the last 16. Jorge Luiz Pinto’s side cannot be underestimated after topping the so-called “Group of Death”, with wins over Uruguay and Italy underpinned by a defensive resilience that has served up two clean sheets in three matches. Pinto is understandably expected to keep faith in a 5-4-1 formation, with Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell carrying the main threat further up the pitch.

Despite a last-gasp win over Ivory Coast, Greece have failed to impress. That 2-1 triumph was the only time Fernando Santos’ side found the net in the group stages and, even then, they had to rely upon defensive mistakes from the Africans to make a breakthrough. With a converted spot-kick and assist to his name, Giorgos Samaras has been the main up top for the Greeks – once again, we can expect Santos’ side to keep it tight at the back and look for a goal on the counter.

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  1. GunsnRoses
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Cillessen 9 points. I am sticking 😀

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      ^this

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    2. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      stick it's good enough for a keeper

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm twisting. The Mbolhi save safety net is enough reason

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      1. Shels
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        + -4OR EVEN -6 Goals, im going twith nuerer over mobhli.. unless karnezis gets something usefull later

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  2. Ben Mee Over A Table
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Ochoa still got MOTM.

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  3. Studgie G
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    who also had wijnaldum?

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    1. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      failed, but at 3.5 he was worth a punt!

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    2. maskegger
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Only 5pts 😐

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    3. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      he did fail but aleast we had the balls to get him even for 3.5 he outscored mexico's options

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  4. Perchinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Stick with Cillessen's 9 points or play Karnezis? (Mbolhi's on my bench too)

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Twist.

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    2. Daniel Levy- Not the Chairm…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      same situation not sure what to do.........

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Everyone and his dog has this three as the last line of defense and the common believe is to stick

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  5. SneakyPete
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Clissen got bonus for 80 % save, didn't see that before :O Is that legit ?

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    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      so mad that karnezis didn't get this on matchday 2 when i had him captained. >:(

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    2. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      6 shots
      5 saves
      83% save percentage

      think so

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  6. Sarin
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Kuyt was all over the place. How many points he made ?

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  7. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    500 pints to LVG for taking RVP off

    *balls

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      absolutely

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    2. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Great managing because RVP would have never scored the penalty?

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      1. Louis
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Great managing because RVP would have never headed the ball back to Sneijder

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      2. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Huntelaar won the header for Sneijder's goal , it was his assist

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    3. Sir Atej
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      after 60 minutes RVP was dead

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  8. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Costa Rica beat Italy and Uruguay. They're not a boring team. They play decent football.

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      2-0

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  9. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Costa Rica averages 9.3 shots per game, 3.7 on target.
    A chance to finish 0-0 though.

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      or 2-0 based on those stats

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    2. GuyIncognito
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I fancy Costa Rica to run out as comfortable winners.

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      3.7 on target = bugger all points for Karnezis

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  10. Woy of the Wovers
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone know how the Paddy Power free bet works on matches that go to penalties. We've got a four-way combo with correct results for Holland and Colombia. For the three-way accumulator, do we get free bet of the original £1 bet, free bet of accumulated £81. Or nothing?

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  11. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Love having Cannavaro on the panel. He really is one of the best ever players in his position. Can't oftsn say that about someone on here.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He was OK.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Vieira?

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Yes and Henry actually. Alright, I take it back but I like him 😆

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    3. Lord Dragon
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He is very good, if his English was just a bit better he'd be an excellent pundit.

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      1. Lord Dragon
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        *punsit for English TV, I'm sure his English language skills don't affect his work on Italian TV...

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  12. ONSIDE 9
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    This van huntelar guy changed the game.chilies can't even distinguish between Jan and van. Dope

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  13. Ben Mee Over A Table
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Now I just need my Germans and Shaqiri to beat 5 points in fox. Please?

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  14. Siva Mohan
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    armband on Konstantinos MANOLAS or Yeltsin TEJEDA?

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    1. Louis
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Tejeda

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    2. Sir Atej
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      tejeda

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    3. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      manolas

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  15. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    feels wonderful to actually support someone who has Dived (Yes I admit) , but I pin for the Dutch

    * Now I know how Liverpool fans feel all the time

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      pin for the dutch mean what?

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        support them

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Didn't know you were Dutch. Fair enough

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          1. Djerbil
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            No I am not Dutch by nationality , but I have backed them since I was a kid

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            1. The Missing Link
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              In that case, GO COLUMBIA my team!! 😀

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          2. Saniul
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            He is an Indian. 😉

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            1. Djerbil
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              we have Ryan ten Doeschate playing for our city IPL team , favourite cricketer

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    2. Vote Joke
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      And United fans, and Arsenal fans, and Chelsea fans, and...

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I will tell u as an Arsenal fan , no one knows in our team how to dive

        Wilshere tries to , but He is pathetic at it

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I will actually back this. I'm a Baggie but I can't name a diver in that Arsenal side.

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        2. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Arteta is a dirty little diver, and it bloody annoys me. Vermealen is also a diver, and Cazorla used to dive. (Twice against West Brom 2 years ago)

          Other than those lot, who should be shifted, we are good.

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          1. Vote Joke
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            I like your honesty.

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    3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      You were asking someone 2 minutes ago to tell you one time he'd ever dived?

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        He hasn't dived in this WC before , thats what I meant

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  16. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I think stick with Cillesen for two reasons.

    1. 9 points is fairly adequate.
    2. Karnezis got taken off last game and there's a chance the injury could come up again.

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    1. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm assuming you have Mbohli too?

      Not tempted to bringing him in vs Germany? Save points galore there.

      And if you're planning to twist, mind as well twist now

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ^^This. I'm twisting mainly for Mbohli

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        1. shazzaaam
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          what if he concedes 3 muller goals?

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          1. Koflok
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            After his 10 saves? I'll take it

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      9 is ok but not brilliant. There's a high chance of it being beaten.
      You've got to be in it to win it. He who dares, Rodders.

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      1. The Missing Link
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Rodders 😀

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    3. Canadian Football
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Good point here.

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  17. Woy of the Wovers
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Annoyed with ITV. These aren't pundits, there pandering to the audience and wishing the penalty away. It was not a dodgy penalty!

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      It was a dodgy penalty.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Agree. He should have been booked already for diving too

        I think Robben needs to accept he will be hard done be sometimes for legitimate calls as he is the player who cried wolf!

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    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Yes it was

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  18. Vote Joke
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Twatting game! Cillessen on 6 points and then rockets to 9 the second I take him out my bloody team. The tools.

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Ouch

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Why did you take him out?

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    3. Studgie G
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      your the only tool who removes their players straight away...

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      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Harsh, but fair

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      2. Vote Joke
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Man, you're a really nice guy. The world will miss you when you're gone 'cos you're just so damn nice all the time.

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    4. MITHRRANDIRR
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      why so hurried?

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      1. Vote Joke
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ADHD

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  19. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    http://i59.tinypic.com/ppw2d.jpg

    What do I do with this team tonight? Do I take out Fernandinho for the Greek midfielder or another defender, and do I take Blind out for another Greek?

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    1. SuryaXO
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Change formation to 4-4-2 - You can add Muller in later. Take out Blind and play all your three greek defenders.

      Take our Fernandinho and play Maniatis.

      If any of them don't do well you can change formation again by subbing in a player who hasn't played yet for one of them and then changing formation.

      Do that.

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  20. shazzaaam
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    who scored costa ricas previous goals?

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      google.com

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      1. shazzaaam
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        lazy.com

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        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          🙂

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  21. Mr Sarcastic
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Damn penalty, Cillesen woud have got nice score with extra time 🙁
    Still okayish, not twisting.

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  22. FlyingHamster
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Any chance the Hunter replace RvP the next game? Did way more than in 15 minutes than RvP the whole game. Certainly a cheaper option fantasy-wise...

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  23. SneakyPete
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    5th in the world, Go Me. I want to be 1st in FFS once

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Well played

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    2. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Good luck!

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Well done, I am on downhill.

      4th to 125 in two rounds 🙁

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  24. MITHRRANDIRR
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Once Robben enters the 18 yard box and gets touched.. https://vine.co/v/hrEPVlFeWHF

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    1. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      lol love it

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  25. Sarnab
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Blind at CDM today was utter nonsense.

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      thats his normal position actually

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    2. Shels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      he started left back, only went cdm when dejong went off

      btw he us regarded as an upcoming world class player in that false 6 role, barce would take him if they dient already have sergio

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    3. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      thats where the papers said he would play.

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  26. GOONER
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    How many points did the following players get?

    1) Ochoua
    2) Herrera
    3) Rafa Marquez

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Herrera got 4

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  27. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Some people, younger brother in an absolute pisser over that result. Why? Not because of Robben making a meal of an admitted foul, no, he's in a pisser because the Dutch won and their manager is the new United manager. Not even joking. Sigh.

    Guess I just have to set him on fire in his sleep.

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    1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Get your brother to sign up on here. I prefer him :p

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, reckoned you'd get along well with him, similar mental age. He's 14 btw. 😛

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Pleased with that then. That's the oldest mental age anyone's ever assigned me 😉

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            You're getting there 😉

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  28. Demí
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Got to feel sorry for Mexico. Didn't deserve that. No underdog who concedes in the 90th minute like that deserves to go out. They must be felt sorry for, and the winning team must be labelled lucky

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Agreed

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      -1 unless you are being sarcastic 😉

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I am 😉

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    3. MITHRRANDIRR
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      they stopped playing once they scored and they paid for it.Netherlands were poor and had they gone for 2nd goal they would've got it.

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  29. Fantastik
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Question for McD:
    If I change the formation, can I change a player other than the rightmost one? (All of them have already played)

    Thanks in advance!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Yes. Take him out first.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Yes

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  30. The 12th Man
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Cillessen(c) on 9x2 > Karnezis?
    change (c) to Karnezis,Manolas,Cholevas, Duarte, Tejeda or Maniatis?

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