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Manchester City made their second foray into the summer transfer market a couple of weeks ago by signing the defensive midfielder Fernando from FC Porto. Having failed with a bid back in January, the Premier League champions returned with an improved offer and finally captured the 26-year-old in a deal believed to be in the region of £12m:

Speaking to the club’s official website upon completion of the move, the Brazilian was clearly delighted with his switch to the English top-flight, as Manuel Pellegrini attempts to win the title for the second successive season at the helm:

“I am so happy to finally be joining Manchester City. I’m looking forward to meeting my new team-mates and helping City to defend the title. It is a very exciting time to be part of this football club and I cannot wait to play in the Premier League. City fans can be assured I will give my all every time I play and I’m looking forward to many happy years in Manchester. I have enjoyed my stay with Porto and I thank the club and the fans for their support during my time in Portugal. Now I am ready for a new chapter in my career.”

The History

Fernando’s career kicked off in his native country with Vila Nova back in 2005. A couple of years later, having scored three times in 57 appearances for the Brazilian third division outfit, he was snapped up by Porto on a five-year contract. Loaned out to Estrela Amadora in his first season in Portuguese football, he netted once in 27 matches before returning to his parent club in time for the start of the 2008-09 campaign.

Nailed-on in the centre of the park, Fernando has been a key figure in a run which has seen his side win four league titles, two Portuguese cups, five Portuguese Super Cups and a Europa League title over the subsequent six seasons. At Porto, a total of 232 appearances over all competitions harvested five goals and nine assists for a player who is no stranger to incurring the referee’s wrath – over the course of his career, the 26-year-old has picked up 71 bookings and been dismissed on six occasions.

The Prospects

Nicknamed “The Octopus” due to his tireless running in the middle of the park, Fernando’s signing is a sensible one from Pellegrini. Last season’s acquisition of Fernandinho proved a masterstroke and laid the foundations for Yaya Toure’s best ever year in the top-flight – with the Brazilian situated in front of the back-four, Toure was afforded greater attacking freedom and served up 20 goals in City’s title-winning campaign.

It was noticeable last term, however, that City had no viable alternative for Fernandinho in the centre of the park. Indeed, in the five games he failed to feature, Pellegrini’s side drew blanks on four occasions (against Stoke, Sunderland, Chelsea and Norwich) as their swashbuckling ways were somewhat limited by the Brazilian’s absence, with Toure taking up a more defensive role as a result.

Fernando should offer City a like-for-like alternative to Fernandinho, then, and as Pellegrini look to overhaul the central midfield area, question marks will surely grow over the futures of players such as Jack Rodwell, James Milner and Javi Garcia, with Gareth Barry already leaving for Everton. Bearing in mind City scored in every game with Fernandinho in the side, his contribution – whilst failing to catch Fantasy managers’ eyes – was vital in affording Pellegrini’s attack-minded players the freedom to flourish.

If, as expected, the City boss continues with the 4-4-2 formation that harvested 102 goals in 2013/14, Fernando’s arrival merely strengthens the champions’ options. A lack of attacking potential means few will look to bring him on board but, as Fernandinho showed last term, the knock-on effect bodes well for the likes of Toure, David Silva, Samir Nasri, Sergio Aguero and Edin Dzeko further up the park.

Further Reference

Fernando Wikipedia

Fernando Transfermarkt Page

Fernando 2013/14 You Tube Highlights

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  1. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Would be a huge mistake if Wenger doesn't buy a CF now (Remy, probably)

    Just can't see Sanchez doing extremely well alone up front. Will probably be needed on the wing, by far his best position, seeing how Walcott will inevitably get injured. Don't think i can endure another season of Giroud being first choice

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    1. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I agree, I think they need a few signings. Sanchez is a good one but in some regards a luxury, I thought they'd have a few other signings in first.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Sanchez is great i reckon. Don't think Ox is consistent enough to play for a team challenging for league.

        You have to assume walcott will miss at least 40% off the season. Podolski the only other natural finisher but wenger doesn't seem to fancy him. Just as important as signing a new CF imo

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          I agree you must assume that with Walcott but I was surprised that a new striker (I'm like you in thinking Sanchez will be a winger) wasn't the first in the door. I suppose it makes sense given Wenger's faith in Giroud but I was sure someone like Remy would have been announced already.

          Reckoned a new full back would have been brought in first as well but I concede that he wasn't really a luxury buy, incorrect to say that.

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          1. Gregor
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            • 16 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Can't fathom Giroud not being first choice striker, Remy or not.

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            1. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              True, think it will cost them.

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              1. Gregor
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                • 16 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Hmm, I actually like Giroud. Also think he'll improve if they get another striker and don't run him into the ground.

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                1. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  I agree Ali, I think having some pace on the wings will help both Giroud and Ozil as it will be much more difficult to play a high line and compress the space on Arsenal. Giroud had his best games when Walcott was around imo.

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            2. tm245
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              Both would be ideal. They played the most beautiful football in the league last fall but they ran out of energy. If they are going to contend both the CL and PL for the long haul they need this kind of strength in depth.

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              1. Gregor
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                • 16 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Agreed.

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    2. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Has to replace the gaping hole Bendtner will leave 😉

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  2. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Re David Luiz

    No you can't judge him on one performance. But go back and look the preceding games. Fell asleep for both Chile and Cameroons goals, looked extremely frail against Croatia defensively. I don't think Colombia really exposed him.

    I take that he plays in a back four, but a centre back must lead by example. His displays of emotion are endearing but completely unprofessional. His swashbuckling roams upfield leave his side completely exposed. Failure to pick up his man at a corner: we would berate a schoolboy for committing such a sin.

    The odd 'flair' free kick isn't enough to overshadow his defensive frailties (I'd love to see his conversion rates too)

    I can't say where Luiz' best position is.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      A taker of great free kicks, not a great free kick taker.

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    2. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      No offence but not sure what games you were watching. the full backs were the reason they conceded those goals.

      Luiz was immense throughout the tourney, coming from someone who thought he was utterly rubbish last night and definitely seems a bit overrated by a group of people

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Well said, Nate.

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      2. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I don't blame him for all of Brazils mistakes/goals conceded, accept he wasn't solely responsible; but I think he contributed to an extremely vulnerable back line

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      We do berate schoolboys for that. Often. AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO CRAP AT THIS GAME.

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      1. Irish Madridista â­
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        England have faaaar worse problems than how they berate schoolkids for losing their markers 😛

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Actually ... no, we don't.

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          1. Irish Madridista â­
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Meh, what do I know, I was trained in the footballing ways by some Irish men who have never left the country nor played/coached professionally.

            However, I'd figure that England need to focus more on passing the ball a bit more incisively, rather than refraining from berating kids for losing their markers in the 6 yard box at a corner where you're supposed to stick like glue to your man in the 6 yard box 😛

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              We have a lot of problems here. With coaching. And with idiot parents.

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              1. Irish Madridista â­
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                And we take from yous so think about how bad it must be over here! 😉

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    4. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      are you suggesting he isn’t worth 50 million?!

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    5. JT's Dog
        11 years, 5 months ago

        as many have said that was a situation waiting to happen, think too many of brazil players want to be attackers, Pulled it off in the past when they have had more skillful players and at least one defender who wants to hold and is good, but this time their ability was exposed.
        plenty of memories of past teams, even the great ones, in 3v1 or 4 v2 situations in defence, but they were good enough to get out of it.

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      • Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Are we sure that Luiz was supposed to be man marking Muller for the first goal? to me it looked like he was picking up someone else in his zone in a zonal system who made a run to the front post and once he realised the ball was going over his head he tried to return to his starting position but only got within a couple of yards of Muller who had run into the space vacated by Luiz. Very good movement by Germany imo

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    6. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      The moment Froome got in that car, put a huge sum on hamilton as sports personality of the year. No froome no competition 😀

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    7. Jonnykanzen
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      M Rodriguez otr Perez to start?

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Perez

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    8. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Results so far in the Colombia-Iran friendly:

      Bubz (after subs) 77-82 Marr
      Epic 76-54 Wakey
      Billy 72-70 Camp No No

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      1. JT's Dog
          11 years, 5 months ago

          a three man friendly?

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, Iran were too chicken to take on all five of us 🙄

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      2. More Cowbell
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Bump!

        Captain poll for NED vs. ARG

        http://strawpoll.me/2078368

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        1. Jack Frost
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          that is graphically KOOL.

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      3. More Cowbell
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Gustao > Wijnaldum

        Quick yay or nay please?

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        1. kalmoffit
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Nay

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        2. mipola
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          no

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      4. JT's Dog
          11 years, 5 months ago

          how many custard creams is too many

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          1. More Cowbell
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Trick question - you can never have too many.

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        • Lawrø
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Does Kroos signing for Madrid effectively mean Isco is out of the picture?

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Pretty sure he is a Xabi replacement. Illara has been dissapointing.

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            1. Lawrø
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              I was under the impression Kroos wanted to play as a Number 10, maybe I'm wrong 🙂

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              1. Wilshere Knowledge
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                I don't know anything other than from watching Real Madrid to be honest. But Alonso is fading, and they need a replacement for him. They bought Illara for that role, but he couldn't hack it. Then they are bringing in Kroos, who is one of the only players in world football who could replace Xabi, so I'd think its a fair assumption.

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                1. Lawrø
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  I submit to your superior knowledge of Real Madrid as I rarely even watch them!

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              2. EmreCan Hustle
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Two changes which I feel would make FPL even better this season;

                1. At some point during the season (maybe the winter transfer window) all OOP or POO players should be re-classified into the positions where they've been deployed.

                2. Often defenders come on at the 15 min mark and contribute heavily to their team's CS, but end up getting only 1 point(while the rest get 6). This doesn't seem fair to me. Any defender who has played over 60 mins and kept a CS should get the 6 points.

                Do these changes seem reasonable? Would love FFS thoughts 🙂

                Thanks.

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                1. EmreCan Hustle
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Wtf?! How did this end up here 😯

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        • SouthCoastSaint
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          For anyone that has moaned about the BAPs system in FPL, I refer you to the star man system in the sun dream team game!

          Anybody else played the World Cup version this summer?

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          1. JT's Dog
              11 years, 5 months ago

              who do you think got it that didnt deserve it

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              1. SouthCoastSaint
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Hummels stands out the most vs France (given to Neuer, I didn't own either fyi!)

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                1. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    they have always given star man awards to player who scores winning goals or totally runs the show. defenders or keepers need to have game of life to take it.
                    i think their 7 point rating assessments are worse

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                    1. SouthCoastSaint
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Agree, 7 system is pretty suspect!

                      First time I've played the sun game. Makes me appreciate FPL a lot more (I'll still
                      moan about marginal assists though!)

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            • textex33
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              In a game where the only scoring categories are assist = 6, goal = 10 and cleansheet = 12 (but goals scored against defender = -2) would you rather have.

              A) 1 match of Muller (in final) and 1 match of Luiz (in 3rd place game)
              B) 2 matches of DeVrij

              concerned w/ option A in the case that Luiz gets blown out again (cost me -10 yesterday)

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            • Conrad.
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              any latest news of RvP about?

              REALLY need him to at least play, as my opponent in a minileague has Schurrle coming off his bench if RvP is out. ðŸ™

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              1. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  dats a bummer
                  can only see him starting or nothing at all

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                  1. Conrad.
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    agreed. im holding out hope that he toughs up and gets out there. he ain't gettin another shot to win a World Cup! i'm also not sure they have much a chance at advancing without him...

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                • SouthCoastSaint
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Last minute decision to be made according to sky

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                  1. Conrad.
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    so i'll be sweatin all day! woohoo!

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                    1. Irish Madridista â­
                      • 15 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      That's going to smell after a while...

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              2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                I just want to say that I thought Germany were brilliant last night. Scintillating, even. 🙂

                I thin it bears repetition.

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                1. tm245
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Very good point. 7-1 cannot happen without both awful and awesome performances.

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                2. Irish Madridista â­
                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  One of the best World Cup performances of all time, they were immensely clinical.

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                  1. JT's Dog
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      to think they could have possibly reach 10, a lot of them came down a gear in second half for long periods

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                  2. SouthCoastSaint
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    2/1 was an incredible price given form of both teams

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                  3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Germany were awesome

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                    1. Demí
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Unders or overs tonight? #ishouldalistened

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                  4. applebonkers
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                    • 16 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    they were. muller, khedira, lahm & kroos were awesome. brazil (with a tone set by a captain far too hysterical on the night) still did too much of the work for them though. it was basically only a proper game for 1 and a half goals

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                    1. Gregor
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                      • 16 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Germany looked great, shame it wasn't 8-0.

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                    2. Dino
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                      • 16 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Khedira is the unsung hero for Germany imo, he gets a lot of bashing as being a limited defensive midfielder when he is much more. I said when Arsenal singed Ozil last season that they should have spent the money on Khedira instead.

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                      1. applebonkers
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                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        he was so good, he's pretty much living the dream after a nightmare of just about making the champions league final and now a world cup final after the layoff. he gives me hope walcott can recover fully from his injury, i couldn't believe his bursts of running power last night. and in the round before he once powered past matuidi then was set to get away from pogba too until pogba just abaout managed to bring him down. no one does that! it was pleasantly shocking.
                        not to paint khedira as just this runner of course, but that really stood out last night and v france

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                      2. applebonkers
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                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        his return pass to kroos to score his second in one moment summed up a great brain/vision/awareness. it wasn't unnecessarily much, it made a probable goal a certain goal, and that's clever play

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                        1. Dino
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                          • 16 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          That is the best description of him, maybe not as technically gifted as a Sweinsteiger, Ozil or a Kroos but a very intelligent powerhouse of a midfielder.

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                3. Somalion
                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Pretty sure Kroos didn't want to leave Bayern at all and was only angling for more money. I don't like Bayern but I must say I like how they've told him to get stuffed.

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                  1. Gregor
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                    • 16 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Where's he going?

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                    1. Somalion
                      • 15 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Looks like Madrid.

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                4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  And now, I am going to have a lie down. 🙂

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                5. applebonkers
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                  • 16 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  great line on ronaldo & klose:

                  "Basically, Ronaldo is the goalscorer as hero, whereas Klose is the goalscorer as accountant."

                  http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/7/9/5883435/miroslav-klose-world-cup-scoring-record

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                  1. JK - Cønt â­
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Muller will break that record, possibly in Russia

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                  2. Conrad.
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    😆 true. Ronaldo's goals meant more.

                    i'm sure Ronaldo probably scored his tally in less games and mins, right?

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                    1. applebonkers
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                      • 16 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      less games yeah, presumably mins too. i like the message though, so what, celebrate both. it's just a record/stat in an entire career of stories for each. a bit like messi and c.ronaldo, celebrate both

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                      1. Conrad.
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        indeed. we all know Messi is more skilled 😉 but we still respect the immense skill of CR.

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                    2. Tind
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Less games and in 3 WCs as opposed to Klose's 4

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                  3. Somalion
                    • 15 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    It's a great achievement for Klose and we'll deserved but in many ways I don't think the two can be compared. Ronaldo lost a few years, he around 29/30 in 06 right? Klose has played 4 WCs compared to Ronaldo's 3 I believe. Both great strikers.

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                6. The Sarjeant
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  @Demi did you back Kroos to be be HRP?

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                  1. Demí
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Yep. MOTM too

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                    1. Irish Madridista â­
                      • 15 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      And your bets for tonight are.....? 😉

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                    2. The Sarjeant
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      How much did you win?

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                      1. Demí
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        Around £120 overall, as i lost on unders and a couple card bets

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                        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                          • 16 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          OVERS!!!!

                          That score line ruined our cards bet mate. Think the ref just couldn't be assed

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                          1. Demí
                            • 14 Years
                            11 years, 5 months ago

                            Yep, agreed. Didn't think either side were that dirty in the end, probably caused by the shock of the score. I fancy goals too but also think it will go to extra time. Can't really separate the two teams

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                            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                              • 16 Years
                              11 years, 5 months ago

                              Tonight i'm finding it tough to call. Probably overs again as 2.25 seems small but not sure what else. Maybe a little goalscorer punt. Demichelis maybe

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                        2. The Sarjeant
                          • 12 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Your doing well 😉 wish I had as much luck as you have for this World Cup lol.

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                7. Gigging Order
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Demichelis (C) Who else is with me?! 🙂

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                  1. Conrad.
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    lmao. would love for a sweet goal + clean sheet from him.

                    it's always possible too, with the less-physical nature of Neder's CBs.

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                    1. Gigging Order
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      I am genuinely captaining him if he starts (which I think he will)

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                  2. Valar(Keith)
                    • 16 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    wish i knew if he was startin for sure.. i may have if he did. though i also have messi, robben, garay, devrij, mascherano, cillesen and not sure if he's the better bet from that lot 🙂 .. goin messi mostly

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                8. ds92
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Is it worth subbing out Luiz and Gustavo who got 6 and 7? I have Garay who will come in place for Hummels and then Sneijder/Mascherano and Messi on the bench. (McD game)

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                  1. Gregor
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                    • 16 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Yep.

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                    1. Gregor
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                      • 16 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Probably.

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                      1. ds92
                        • 11 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        Thanks! I think i'm going to sub out luiz, gustavo and humbles - get in messi, sneijder and garay and messi.
                        Plus I have cellisen, de vrij, mash and rojo playing also. Captain messi?

                        Thanks in advance.

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                        1. Gregor
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                          • 16 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Yep, captain Messi.

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                9. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8XanuhOss

                    this is who my team get in next round of europa cup
                    famous for their celebrations, this is collection of their best.
                    kills 5 min i suppose

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                  • jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Huge player Fernando. Will be missed in my FC Porto... :´(

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                  • The Sarjeant
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Pretty annoyed Ladbrokes hasn't paid me my over 160 tournament goals bet!

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                  • sre10
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    69 + Cillessen,De Vrij,Garay,Mascherano and Robben,who to be captain? 😀

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                    1. JT's Dog
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        went for garay FGS tonight

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                        1. Arvin-ation
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          That would great!

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                    2. SouthCoastSaint
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2014/defence-david-luiz-brazil-defender-3833905

                      I criticised Luiz a bit further up. Performances (or lack thereof) from the likes of Fred shouldn't be forgotten.

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                      2. applebonkers
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                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        ridiculously i don't think badly of fred at all because he is 'just' fred. he played like a bang average striker should against top opposition and with limited service. he was just alright a year ago since which he's had a bad injury, now he's a bit less than alright.
                        the biggest sadness is that a country who had romario in 94, ronaldo in 98 - 06, luis fabiano ( i really rated him) in 2010, now has fred! the scary thing is it doesn't even seem like just crazy selection. who are the alternatives? the best i could come up with was trying hulk at CF, and even that seems ropey. heard a lot last night about brazilians once over the initial shock saying the 7-1 was a potentially brilliant thing for brazilian football, a chance to sort out a system producing only freds or jos, or adrianos who can't quite hack greatness

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                        1. Dino
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Yeah hard to blame the likes of Fred or Hulk when they did as good as their limited talent allowed.

                          In Marcello's defence he had no cover in front of him and was constantly left two on one leaving Lahm in loads of space. With Oscar playing on the left in previous games at least Marcello had some cover.

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                          1. applebonkers
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                            • 16 Years
                            11 years, 5 months ago

                            yeah marcelo was like a better version of andre santos when he used to have arshavin in front of him. you do need that help too

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                    3. Valar(Keith)
                      • 16 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Any early team news for the Argentina game? wont be able to make subs later and need to decide over the next 30 mins whether to swap Gustavo(7) for Demichelis. Scared he may not start

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                      1. CunkOnFPL
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        apparently expected team:
                        with Rojo, Demi and Perez in place of Di Maria

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                        1. Valar(Keith)
                          • 16 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          has it been confirmed? or is this based on the consensus 🙂 .. nothing personal mate 🙂 .. i just wanna make sure

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                          1. CunkOnFPL
                            • 13 Years
                            11 years, 5 months ago

                            consensus,
                            and Sabella said something like: same team last match, but with Rojo, Perez for ADM (He didn't confirm)

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                    4. textex33
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      In a game where the only scoring categories are assist = 6, goal = 10 and cleansheet = 12 (but goals scored against defender = -2) would you rather have.

                      A) 1 match of Muller (in final) and 1 match of Luiz (in 3rd place game)
                      B) 2 matches of DeVrij

                      concerned w/ option A in the case that Luiz gets blown out again (cost me -10 yesterday)

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                    5. Arvin-ation
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Worth subbing Luiz out for Blind?

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                      1. tm245
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        Go for it, since defenders get around 8-10 usually.

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                      2. CunkOnFPL
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        I would
                        unless you think Argentina can do a germanic to Holland

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                      3. applebonkers
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                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        if subbing out luiz isn't a good idea then the game isn't worth playing

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                    6. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                      • 12 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      @Demi

                      Great call on that Kroos bet. What was your thought process before putting that on? Wouldn't have occurred to me to put that on as he isn't a natural goal-scorer

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                      1. Demí
                        • 14 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        Just felt Germany were going to defeat Brazil comfortably. And that an attacker would win it. Klose goes off early, Muller was too short, don't trust Ozil's finishing and knew Kroos was playing in an attacking role. Thought he'd get lots of space due to the lack of organisation in Brazil's defence without Thiago Silva. Fernandinho and Gustavo being shambolic helped too. He's on all set pieces which is something i always bear in mind for likely assisters.

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                        1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                          • 12 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          nice work, makes sense. will bear in mind the set pieces

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                    7. tm245
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      For McDonalds players, how many do you have left?

                      I have 7 with only 5 definite starters.

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                    8. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
                      • 13 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Hummels [3] (C), Luiz [6], Gustavo [7] -> Rojo, De Vrij, Wijnaldum (Robben (C))

                      Seem sensible for the McD game?

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                      1. Valar(Keith)
                        • 16 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        id prob not do gustavo to wijnaldum. he normally gets a similar total anyway and there is an outside chance dejong starts. rest looks good

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                        1. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
                          • 13 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Cheers. I'll see if Wij is gonna start and decide then.

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