634x258 Moving Target
28 July 2014 4675 comments
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Having plundered Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton earlier this summer, Brendan Rodgers returned to the St Mary’s club for the third time in order to acquire centre-half Dejan Lovren. The 25-year-old arrives at Anfield for a reported £20m and is Rodgers’ fifth signing of the close-season, with Lazar Markovic and Emre Can also making their way to Merseyside:

Discussing the move with the club’s official website, the Reds boss admitted the Croatian’s organisational skills will be crucial for the campaign ahead:

“This is a very important signing for us and I’m delighted it’s completed so Dejan can join up with us on our US tour. I think he’s a really commanding centre-half. I’ve said since we lost Jamie Carragher that we needed that leadership. He’s a player that gives us that. He’s very strong, very commanding, but he can play. I’ve been really impressed with him. I watched him at Lyon, he came into the Premier League with Southampton and I know their players thought he was a big driving force for them and kept them defensively solid. I think he’s a player that can still improve, still develop as he’s in his mid-20s. He’s someone I’m really looking forward to working with.”

The History

A product of the NK Karlovac youth system, Lovren was snapped up by Dinamo Zagreb back in 2004. The defender was handed his senior debut as a 16-year-old a couple of years later before being loaned out to Croatian club Inter Zaprešić – over a couple of seasons, he became a first-team regular and scored once in 50 league outings.

After returning to his parent club for the start of the 2008/09 campaign, Lovren racked up 36 appearances over the next season-and-a-half before being acquired by Lyon midway through the 2009-10 season for €8 million. Spending four years with the Ligue 1 outfit, the Croatian gradually established himself as a key figure at the back and registered two goals and a pair of assists over 72 appearances.

Signed by Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino last June, the centre-half turned out 31 times, scoring on a couple of occasions, with his displays proving fundamental to a run of 15 clean sheets over 2013/14.

On the international scene, Lovren has represented his country from Under-17 to Under-21 level on a total of 55 occasions, scoring six times. The centre-half has also notched twice in 21 appearances for the senior side and played all three group games in the recent World Cup.

The Prospects

Liverpool’s free-scoring side may have earned plenty of plaudits and Fantasy investment after racking up 101 goals in the season gone by, but a series of poor defensive displays ultimately proved their undoing. Rodgers’ side came within two points of the title in spite of a backline that conceded 50 times over 2013/14 – only 14 goals fewer than rivals City (37) and Chelsea (27) combined – and mustered a mere 10 clean sheets over the entire campaign.

Clearly, the Merseysiders need improving at the back if they are to maintain their momentum and Lovren’s acquisition certainly looks a step in the right direction. Having splashed the cash and cited the Croatian’s leadership skills, Rodgers sees the new boy as vital to his plans, and with starts looking guaranteed, it leaves Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Mamadou Sakho vying for the remaining central defensive berth if, as expected, Liverpool operate with a four-man back-line again. Whilst Skrtel’s seven goals last term underline his capabilities in the opponents’ box, there’s every chance that Sakho could be set to partner the new boy, bearing in mind that Rodgers forked out £15m for the Frenchman’s services this time last year.

Priced at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and 6.3 in the Sky Sports game, Lovren is already the seventh most popular defender in the former game, with an ownership of 16% and rising. Granted, full-back pair Jon Flanagan and Jose Enrique are cheaper at 5.0 apiece and, if either can nail down a regular role this term, they could provide better value than the Croatian but for now, with Skrtel and 6.0 and both Agger and Sakho at 5.5, Lovren certainly seems the safest option for those willing to take a punt on Rodgers’ defence.

Having conceded 93 goals in two seasons under Rodgers, though, it’s fair to say Liverpool are hardly deserving of such lofty price-tags at the back. Bearing in mind that the likes of Mathieu Debuchy is similarly priced and offers a route into an Arsenal defence with 17 clean sheets last term, and Tottenham new boy Ben Davies, at 5.0, will be hoping to benefit from Pochettino’s installation at Spurs, there could well be better value found elsewhere.

Whilst there’s hope that Lovren’s arrival may just be the catalyst for a turnaround in defensive fortunes for the Mersysiders, trips to City and Spurs in the first three fixtures may convince many to steer clear initially. One look at the schedule from Gameweek 4, when Liverpool face four kind home matches (AVL, EVE, WBA, HUL) and trips to West Ham and QPR in the subsequent six, suggests that if Lovren’s installation makes the difference, we could start to reconsider Liverpool’s defence once again.

Further Reference

Dejan Lovren Wikipedia

Dejan Lovren Transfer Markt Page

Dejan Lovren You Tube 2013/14 Highlights

Dejan Lovren First Liverpool Interview

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  1. Ksimparomenos
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    a) do u think diego costa could be rotated/early substituted now that Drogba has arrived? it would be frustrating to have 10,5mi in jeopardy

    b) I read in the press that giroud is to return to training august 11, does it mean that he wont be playing vs palace?

    thanks

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    1. SkyByBo
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      I really cant see drogba getting a lot of game time.

      I dont know abouy Giroud but if he isnt back until the 11th that is really pushing it.

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    2. Champster
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      They'll always be a risk of early-sub with Torres and Drogba there (assuming Lukaku moves on) but I'd be suprised if he wasn't still as nailed on a Chelsea player as you can get.

      Maybe Giroud's partying with the Germans. I spell conspiracy.

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    3. Honeybadger
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      Drogba is a bench warmer, no risk IMO!

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      1. Ksimparomenos
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        surely he hasn't return to warm the bench imo, not in his character

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    4. binyamin44
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      a) Costa will have much time to play
      b) knew about the germans, not about giroud. Sure he'll play

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    5. Reeker
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      Drogba might start a game when an important Champions League match is coming up and they are facing a weak team but other than Costa should start most games

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    6. sinik
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      I think that Drogba was effectively signed on as an expensive coach/emergency option.

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  2. binyamin44
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    A. Sanchez - Ward
    B. Silva - Cahill

    HELP I'm cracking ! 😀

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    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      B

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    2. Bielsa's Bucket
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      Arsenal fan here.
      Still not sold on Sanchez @10.5 FPL wise, Ozil and Ramsey could easily be better for 1.5 less.
      However should you miss out on Sanchez you'll be struggling to find the 1.5 (maybe more if price rises) to bring him in your team.

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      1. binyamin44
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        Ozil won't start the season... if not I would have picked him.

        And Ramsey... I'm not convinced in him. I'm maybe the only though :s

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        1. Bielsa's Bucket
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          I'd go for Sanchez at the start, if he is the real deal then you've already got him, if not you can ship and you've got 1.5 mil to play with, its risky business but I've got stun once to often playing catch up on the price rises 🙁

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    3. Pinball wisdom
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      Who knows who'll play in palace's back 4. So a) is a wait and see but if he does play then I like a). Silva for me will either be injured or rotated.

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  3. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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    Would you rather???

    Silva & Agüero

    OR

    Yaya & Džeko

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    1. Ksimparomenos
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      • 13 Years
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      yaya route by far

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    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Silva and Aguero

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    3. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      Split...thanks anyways guys

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    4. Bielsa's Bucket
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      Yaya, only cause Silva is more injury prone.

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        Thanks

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    5. Dušan Citizen
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      S and A

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        Thanks

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  4. Bubz
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    There should be some sort of rule against this pillaging of Southampton

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    1. SW6
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      It's getting silly now.

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    2. Champster
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      Soon they'll just be known as simply Hampton as 'Arry moves in to sign South for an undisclosed fee.

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      1. SW6
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        Surely they'd be 'ampton

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        1. Champster
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          Touche.

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  5. The Machine
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    Anyone up for a little "complete the sequence" ? 😛

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
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      No, yes, no, yes, no,......, no 🙂

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  6. Ben Mee Over A Table
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who do you see as the most 'essential' pick/s for the start of the Premier League season.

    I'm currently on Sigurdsson and Felipe Luis.

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    1. theloveburglar
      • 13 Years
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      no one is essential and certainly not those 2

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    2. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
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      Not them.

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      1. theloveburglar
        • 13 Years
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        aguero on the other hand...

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
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          Oh, aye...

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      2. Ben Mee Over A Table
        • 13 Years
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        Yeah, but I bet if I'd said Aguero you would've instantly up voted.

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
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          Probably not, no.

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    3. t4thomas
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      Nobody is essential.

      A guy in the top 1K didn't have Suarez all season!

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      1. Ben Mee Over A Table
        • 13 Years
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        I find this hard to believe.

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        1. t4thomas
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          True story.

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    4. Bubz
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      Luis essential? Don't be daft

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    5. Rasping Drive
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      Rooney, Mata, Sig

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    6. Il Gladiatore
      • 14 Years
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      So many good options that no one is essential. I think Hazard and Rooney are the best picks for the early fixtures though.

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    7. Reeker
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      He knows nobodys essential that's why "essential" was in quotations. The closest to it for me is Rooney, couldn't see my team without him

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  7. t4thomas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    De Gea // 4M
    Cahill // Huth // Ward // Simpson // 4M
    Hazard // Mata // Sigurdsson // Snodgrass // 4.5M
    Van Persie // Giroud // Dzeko

    I can't believe how good it looks.

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    1. t4thomas
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      Pssssst. 0.5M in the bank too.

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    2. Pinball wisdom
      • 16 Years
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      Snodgrass.....really?

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      1. t4thomas
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        Why not?

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    3. Il Gladiatore
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Snodgrass to Arnie and it'll look a lot better

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      1. t4thomas
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        I can do RVP --> Rooney, Cahill --> Luis and then Snodgrass --> Fabregas/Silva/Ramsey.

        These thoughts are weighing me down.

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        1. Il Gladiatore
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Them moves with Ramsey look good. Cahill and Luis will score around the same and Rooney & Ramsey should easily outscore RVP & Snodgrass.

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  8. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Tempted to WC after week 3 this year and try to make some money in the international break.

    Anyone tried this before? If so, what sort of increase in Team Value can one expect?

    Would be very helpful!

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    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
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      1m give or take.

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      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        • 12 Years
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        Thanks! Feel it's worth the plunge?

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
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      Done it the last 2 years. Pretty easy to make value if you know what you're doing yeah

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      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I'm assuming use CTC to see who's about to bump up and buy them? Wait for them to reach another .1 and sell them?

        Obviously along with not selling anyone you actually plan to keep (if they've already increase in value).

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        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
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          Yep just ride the prices, obviously not selling anyone you think you'll keep for GW4

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          1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Appreciate the help! Any other tips/tricks while doing it?

            (Still comparitively new to FPL, any advice is appreciated)

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    3. Bubz
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      A disappointing amount usually

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      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
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        Yeah? Any rough idea?

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        1. Bubz
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          About 0.9M

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    4. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      I am tempted too. I have never managed to hang on to the WC until the DGW. May as well except my fate early and profit accordingly.

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      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        • 12 Years
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        Yeah, plus with that in mind, I can completely gear my team to target the first 3 GW's.

        Ideally, you score a lot of points, have a better idea on starters/players to watch and get some extra money before you're ready to take on week 4.

        Doesn't sound too bad.

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        1. t4thomas
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          Have you seen the WC strategy post? Might just be in the members area.

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          1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
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            Yup, I have. Was still curious to hear from people who've tried it before though.

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            1. t4thomas
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              I did it in GW2 a few years ago and managed 44K. NOT AMAZING, but good for me.

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  9. Gazza2000
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    See a lot of teams with DDG and I'm tempted myself but is he really worth 1.0 over Krul, Mannone or Foster ?

    It all depends what you will do with that 1.0 ofcourse but you could upgrade a 4.5 Collocini to Jones/Evans to maintain defensive Utd cover or upgrade Eriksen to Mata for example.

    Any thoughts ?

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Well, he will get 4-5/10 clean sheets to start I reckon.

      Krul?

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      1. Gazza2000
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        DDG / Simpson or Krul / Jones ?

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    2. Ksimparomenos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think a man utd defender is more useful in our rotation as it guarantees one precious space for a player that can be played each week while 2 rotating keepers would just do

      personally I will be going with krul foster and evans mata rooney for man utd coverage

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    3. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I was going to go Begovic at the back and Shaw in defence, but made more sense to swap to De Gea and Huth/Cameron for the cash.

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  10. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    So many people kicking off about nothing these days, I wish we'd go back to how things used to be when Unreal, Forca & Super Oscar Baby were around.....

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Unreal. 🙁

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      1. Incredibale
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        Forca - my aim is to win fplbut i have bad start now i aim for 20 green arowws class is permament form is temporary

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    2. The Missing Link
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      One of thems the grim reaper. Not forca because he can speak english but one of the other ones im pretty sure has a new account

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        You are pretty wrong.

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        1. The Missing Link
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          Well its someone who was banned and those are the only 3 I know.

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            Ok.

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      2. Fantasy Gold
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        Lol me? Who do you think I am?

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    3. Podge
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      Dont forget RBJ 🙂

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  11. Ouch 8 point hit
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else going triple Man U and which 3?

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      currently on Roonpig, RVP and Shaw.
      RVP definitely staying, but Rooney and Shaw could become Mata and Jevans for cash purposes (and allows Giroud or, if he starts, Jovetic after last night!)

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      1. Ouch 8 point hit
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Had Shaw, Mata, RVP but just switched RVP to Rooney to free up funds. Am liking the sound of both for the start of the season though....

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    2. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      2 s enough so far Roon and Mata . Will consider Vermin if he goes

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    3. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      De Gea, Mata, Van Persie.

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      1. Ouch 8 point hit
        • 14 Years
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        Who are your other strikers mate? RVP hurt my midfield too much but then I also have Sturridge pencilled in.

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        1. t4thomas
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          Dzeko, Giroud.

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    4. Beavis
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Evans*, Mata, Rooney.

      *could be other 5.5 DF.

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    5. The Machine
      • 12 Years
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      Mata rooney Jones

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    6. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Mata, Rooney and Jones

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    7. Yome
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      DDG, Mata, Roo

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    8. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
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      De Gea , Evans, Mata for me

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    9. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
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      Jones, Mata, Rooney for me.

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    10. Podge
      • 14 Years
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      Rooney Mata Shaw for me

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  12. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Gary Monk speaking about Wilfried Bony today

    “It has to be made loud and clear, the fact is he is not for sale, unless someone comes in with an astronomical offer which does happen,”....“Unless they want to pay an astronomical fee, then he is going nowhere.”

    Why would anybody go shopping at Swansea... Southampton have a sale on and it's buy one get one free at the moment...

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 14 Years
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      Gary Monk is thick as pig shit that's been left in the sun.
      This is his and Jenks way of trying to inflate value. Bony will go and Siggy will play the Michu role making him even better value

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      • 12 Years
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      astronomical? I doubt it. A club like Swansea couldn't turn down £20m.

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    2. t4thomas
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      SIGGY (C).

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    3. Dr Dream
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      All sounds very much like they want to cash in...or at least try. I bet that statement is pointed straight at Liverpool.

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    4. Solenya
      • 14 Years
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      A sale sure, but not a discount sale mind you, they've got more than their fair share of fees for most of the sold products

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  13. Stevecat
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    De Jong/ auton/ mirralis and Weismann

    Or

    Albrighton and dzeko?

    Thanks

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      Who, what, where, how?

      I like De Jong.

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      1. Stevecat
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        De Jong and Weismann then?

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        1. t4thomas
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          Hard to like Villa players.

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  14. Gooner Kebab
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    Quite like Davis or Ward-Prowse for value 4th mid.

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    1. t4thomas
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      Yes,think I may try and find the cash for a 5M. On Marney @ 4.5 right now.

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    2. Dr Dream
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      Both looking great picks as things stand.

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  15. drag95
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Someone please tell me if Lambert is nailed on to start?
    Or else who is a proper 7.5 m striker?

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
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      Pellé is your best bet for 7.5 until someone better becomes available in the transfer window

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      1. drag95
        • 11 Years
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        But Southampton is crumbling!

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        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 14 Years
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          Maybe Rémy or Borini if they move then

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          1. Dr Dream
            • 13 Years
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            TBH it might even be Remy if he doesn't move...struggling to find a quality forward of any description.

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            1. Bøwstring The Carp
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              Very true actually

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
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      Not nailed on at all.

      7.5 could get you remy who is quality and nailed on but qpr arent the best.

      Not a great bracket imo, either get 8.5 for dzeko, bony or giroud or go for a cheapy at. 6.

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    3. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
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      honestly, dont bother with any strikers below 8.5m, not worth it.

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      1. drag95
        • 11 Years
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        Remy might bang them in if he stays at qpr, going with him 🙂
        Les Bleus forever

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      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        ah the fallacy that price equates points

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  16. The Machine
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    1/5

    Vaughan, ________, Rooney, Fabregas, Owen, Andy Turner

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      • 14 Years
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      milner

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
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        correct

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        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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          get in! my one and only point 😀 ever

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        2. A.T
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          What's the link?

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          1. The Machine
            • 12 Years
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            6 youngest players to score a premier league goal

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            1. A.T
              • 15 Years
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              James Vaughan, of course. I was thinking of that one who played for Sunderland.

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          2. The Missing Link
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            They humans

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    2. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Ian Bell.

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    3. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Milner

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    4. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Milner

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    5. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Groves. They all balding

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    6. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Aguero

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  17. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Even on Football Manager I wouldn't do what Southampton are doing 😕

    Maybe I'd sell Shaw and Chambers for that price but Ricky, Rodriguez and Lallana leaving will be a huge mistake imo.

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I won the CL in two seasons. They're clearly doing it wrong!

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      1. Gazza2000
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        🙂

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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think Lambert was the funny one... yes, he wanted to go, but Saints gained nothing and others looked around wondering why he was sold - i.e. the players. That must've encouraged others to go. They can accept Shaw going for big money, but Lambert must've made a difference.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        He's getting on, his only opportunity to be at a big club, I would have let him go. I'd prefer Pelle.

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      2. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Just seems such a waste, £4mil for their most prolific striker, despite his age.

        Its like Vorm going to Spurs for £3mil... just doesn't do Swansea any good - £3mil won't buy another keeper of his quality, and it just upsets things.

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          I think we wanted to repay what he'd done for the club by helping him fulfil a childhood dream. Yes, it was probably incredibly naive and not in-keeping with the mercenary atmosphere of PL football but if we hadn't sold so many others, no one would have thought it crazy.

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            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            You see what I mean though? Other players can understand Shaw/Lallana going for £30m because the club can re-invest, improve etc.... but selling Lambert has nothing to be gained for Southampton, and it shows they have to sell their best players against their wishes. Not good.

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            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              I think these players needed no encouragement. I can't see it making a massive difference.

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    2. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I'd sell Lallana for 25m for sure

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        True £25mil is a lot, I just think if you were already after losing a player of Ricky's importance to the squad then you wouldn't want to lose the next man on the list.

        All depends on who they replace him with in the end. So many options out there, just need to pick the right one.

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Lallana was undoubtedly above Lambert on the list.

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    3. Ings on the up
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Amazing isn't it (not if you are a saints fan!)

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    4. Reeker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      They did get good money for the players but they could at least sign the replacements before selling them

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    5. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I'm not sure how we could have kept them. Paid them Champions League wages and ended up like Pompey in a wild attempt to hit the top 4? I'd rather have a sustainable club that can reach for the stars each year than one that gets a couple of years at it and then just drops like a stone down the leagues.

      Katherina saw her father save our club and then he died. We chant his name at every game and we will continue to do so. I don't believe she would deliberately commit to a dismantling of our club.

      People are even questioning why I'm not moaning about my season ticket and asking for a refund. Yet I don't think that will help. What will help is my support at every home game and at as many away games as I can get to. Being a footy supporter of a team outside the top 4 necessitates such robustness in the face of the roller coaster life we experience. It makes the success of last season feel even sweeter and I'm pleased for the Academy players who see an exciting future with Saints as more doors open with so many players leaving.

      Saints are also in a great position as being the only Premier League team outside of London in the south of England. Our catchment area is vast and there are plenty more Shaws, Bales, Oxlades and Walcotts in the pond we fish in. Exciting times are ahead but it's going to be a roller coaster....as always.

      Chin up Saints fans.

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  18. Ings on the up
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    A. Tadic and Remy

    B. Mata and Austin (Rooney owner too)

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      B.

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    2. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I really like the Remy punt but you have to go for Mata

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  19. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout Ideas.

    I've had a few ideas for this site for a while now, some which benefit the community and others which would benefit the site.

    - FPL player prices in the members tables. This is a must have in my opinion. This way we could include just the cheap options and unearth some potential gems.

    - Members notebook. We all know the number one rule when becoming a member - don't share it on the site! So how do we talk about stats from the members tables on the site? There could be like a notebook where users write things down and can be shared on the site, like comments are, but only members could access it like the projections and tables.

    - Community involvement with the ScoutCast games. Mark & Granville, on the ScoutCast each week, do a mini-game, where they pick a big hitter each week who they think will do well and a cheaper option. It would be cool if the community could get involved with this and the site had a poll, like they do for the captain choices, for Mark & Granville to see who are picks are. I think it's Granville who keeps a record of the score, so he could look each week and keep track.

    - A FFS app. What FFS could do to draw more attention to the site is release an app which contains all the members things. They could charge 69p for this, which I'm sure many of us would pay, as I personally think the price of membership is way too low, or they could give it away for free. When a user downloads the app it could go to a bit prompting then to log in or sign up for the current fee. I'm sure loads of football fans would find the data useful, even if they didn't play FPL.

    This is just a few ideas I've had, and ill email this post to Jonty, except if a lot of users disagree with a certain part.

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    1. Exilizer
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think you make many good points. I especially agree that it's a bit of a shame that we are essentially unable to discuss the benefits of our membership with other members...

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, it's a big problem. I often find I figure something out from the members area, but I can't share it.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Surely Player 4 on this table works?

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    2. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      And an "edit comment" function.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        The reply button is hard enough to use for some.
        Edit comment would just make things worse.

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        1. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Haha true, would stop me making a fool of myself like earlier 😀

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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sure the powers-at-be have a FFS app as priority number one.

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  20. thegoat
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Does a Midfield Five get any better??

    Hazard- Sanchez- Mata- Sigurdsson- De Jong

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      It could have Cesc and Yaya in it.

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    2. Ben Mee Over A Table
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Yes.

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    3. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      it does until it gets to De Jong

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  21. Bielsa's Bucket
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Are Southampton close to any signings? I last heard about Rojo and nothing since, trying to look at twitter is hard enough, its just gone into banter overload.

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    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Van Dijk and Forster are allegedly going to be announced in the next couple of days.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Forster to be no 1?

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          I can't see him moving to deputise for Boruc. Boruc's a legend but he can be pretty temperamental.

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          1. Rockstar17
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            I'm a Celtic fan + Boruc is the better keeper. Outstanding shot-stopper
            Wanyama has the potential to play for anyone as well

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    2. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Fer is the only name I've heard sofar

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      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Yes I believe that's another possibility. Could potentially be good for us as Fer and Tadic played together at Twente.

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        1. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          I heard Clasie, Schneiderlin replacement I guess.

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          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Yes so did I. Less keen on that one.

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          2. Gazza2000
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Clasie is going nowhere, well I hope...
            Feyenoord is the Southampton of Holland at the moment

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          3. DropPointsNotBombs
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Clasie is too good for Southampton. That won't happen.

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    3. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Clasie, Vlaar, Rojo, Van Dijk, Forster all rumoured

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    4. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Good few players linked:

      Rojo
      Paulinho (Livorno)
      Forster
      Van Dijk
      Fer
      Redmond
      Armero
      Guidetti

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    5. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Southampton are definitely staying up this season regardless. They still have a decent squad even with the starting 11 mostly decimated. Would be a shame if they rushed transfers on mediocre players.

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  22. SW6
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    One thing I am looking forward to is no stupid punts on Fulham players.

    Owned Mitroglou, Dejagah (he actually did ok for me) and Riise last year. Even worse is I never had Sidwell - our only player worth owning.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      get him in now...

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    2. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I got Mitroglu as well. Depressing times

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Ah Dejagah

      How I wish I'd bought Puncheon instead

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  23. Ben Mee Over A Table
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Green, Speroni, Hazard, Rooney

    Green, 4.0, Fabregas, RvP

    My question is not to choose one or the other, but to decide whether or not it would be too much of a downgrade in other areas to justify an RvP differential.

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think Hazard --> Fabregas is too much if a drop. I have compromised my third midfield spot, ending up with too 6M mids to fit him in.

      I think the (C) makes it worthwhile when we are really talking about something like eriksen vs, siggy in price.

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  24. Somalion
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    LVG on Sky Sports News. Seems quite set on wingbacks and playing 2 up top with a CAM, Mata and Rooney seem like good picks definitely.

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    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Welcome to last week Somalion!

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Just a second interview was on there 1 on 1 with him. But since you're Mr.Knowitall I won't name the players he specifically mentions and the ones he doesn't 😉

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        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Well it sounds like the stuff you haven't mentioned is the juicy new information, whereas what you said above is why Mata is now in every single RMT 😉

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    2. Podge
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      And Shaw and possibly even Valencia

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Possibly, Shaw in particular is interesting.

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    3. Solenya
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Like the system apart from the fact that it takes the purely attacking wingers out of the reckoning

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Aye but a CAM and 2 forwards should account for that pretty well!

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    4. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I've got Valencia at 6m in my team. He has played in the right back position before, and can play all down the right side. More of a place holder at the moment however until get more of an idea what LVG is doing.
      Still toying with the idea of down grading either Sanchez or Diego Costa to upgrade him to Eriksen.

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  25. Dr Funk
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Which player of 5.5m is going to get the most points?

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      😀

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      1. Dr Funk
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        God damn it you sons of bitches!

        Answer my question!

        😉

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        1. Podge
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          🙂

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Tell you after GW38?
      Probably a defender or some mid who joins the template.

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    3. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Bojan! 😀

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  26. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    MTRF 1

    2/5

    Yeboah, Kanu, Yakubu, Camara, Drogba, Adeabyor, Benjani, ______, Kalou......

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Drogba?

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Nope. no players repeated in this instance

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Tchoyi

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    3. Ben Mee Over A Table
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Haven't Got A?

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    4. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Yakubu

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    5. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Yakubu

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Adebayor

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    6. The Missing Link
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Anelka

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    7. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      all wrong so far, no players repeated for this one

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    8. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      DinDann

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Will give you that 😛 first 9 african to score a premier league hat-trick

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        1. VougieDipond
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          TFF would never give that spelling

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          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            🙂

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        2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          i'd guessed below too. Thought it was something else!!!

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    9. Pinatta
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Finidi

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    10. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Kanoute

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    11. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      yaya toure

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    12. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Kone

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    13. binyamin44
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Odemwingie?

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    14. Il Gladiatore
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Demba Ba?

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  27. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Chambers is Arsenals third most expensive player ever 😯 Do people think his arrival will affect Debuchy's game time?

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    1. Exilizer
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Not initially you would hope.
      Wenger called Chambers a "gamble"

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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Not in any significant way FPL-wise.

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    2. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Debuchy to play 80% of the time you'd think.

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  28. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    For those who think Ivanovic will be benched - Ivanovic is Mourinho's one of most favourite players and many people think that he will be captain after Terry retire.

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      What's the back 4 going to be then?

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      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        One of these 2

        Ivanovic,Cahill,Terry,Luis

        Azpilicueta,Ivanovic,Cahill,Luis

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  29. Ksimparomenos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    some help please

    fabregas, ramsey, siggy, mata xxxx

    rooney, diego costa xxxx

    a) giroud + 4,5 mid

    b) dzeko + 4,5 mid

    c) lamella/eriksen + bojan

    d) diouf + de jong

    thanks

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    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      b - and by the way i assume your defence is pretty weak right ??

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  30. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Evans really is the ultimate troll

    He just sits there on the screen, looking at you, saying, "Buy me, you know you want to" with that cheeky glint in his eye

    But DDG saves me any hassle over keeper

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    1. Ben Mee Over A Table
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I believe your tinkering has got the best of you.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        nope, just Evans' trolling

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