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Very time I post my team I get the same feedback. Baines is not worth it downgrade him. I'm going jt attempt to explain why I THINK that baines is definetly worth the 7.0 million.
Baines is an attacking full back. He bombs down the left and has a mean delivery. With lukaku lurking he can always get open play assists.
He takes set pieces. Everton have a few lumps in the box and can be dangerous so will get assists this way as well. With these two I'd say that is minimum 5 maximum probably 8 assists a season. Not too bad for 7.0.
He takes penalties. With a team with flair players such as Barkley and mirallas and the strength of lukaku then they are always likely to win a few penalties a year. Add to this his quality free kicks and this is probably 5 goals.
Added together this is 15-25 for assists and 30 for goals which is between 45 and 55 points. Not bad.
Furthermore. In 3 of his last 4 seasons (other was a poor season for baines) he has got 169,178,175 or something close to this. Only 4 midfielders and 5 attackers (including Suarez) beat this. The 4 midfielders are this season priced at 11.0,9.0,10.0 and 8.5. All significantly more then baines despite not finishing far in front of him. The forwards that are still on the game are 11.5,10.5,8.5,7.5. These are all a lot higher as well other then lambert who won't be reaching that scores gain this season.
This shows the scoring power that baines has and if you were offered a midfield or striker to reach 170-175 you'd take it straight away so why not baines??Open ControlsIf he starts slow as predicted then you are losing out in other areas.
Open ControlsMC why?? If someone said Barkley will get 170 points this season. Would you not get him straight in?? Why not just as he is a defender.
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defenders score in spurts though when they have good fixtures, why not ride Terry's or a Man U defenders fixtures, let baines drop in price a bit(hopefully) and get him when he has good fixtures.
Open ControlsThis is the only logical reply but I'm still going to politely ignore I think. Teams get penalties agaisnt any teams. Sunderland away to cheslea last year. Penalties can come agsint anyone and I don't want to miss out on baines.
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Owning Baines is all about timing. He'll go on a good run and then do nothing for 10 games. He'll definitely be in my team at some point this season but I'm waiting for better fixtures.
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You don't need to make an argument for Baines, we know how good he is for fantasy
Open ControlsI tend to agree, and while it makes sense to go after defenders firstly for clean sheets secondly for other things, when the defender is on pens which can come anytime as well as playing for a very decent defending side in Everton when clean sheets may come when not expected he can well be a great season long keeper. Couple things against him are: Mirallas took some free kicks away from him last year. Everton do not earn very many penalties. There is no one to get on the end of his crosses - Lukaku was daft last year in the box at doing this from my eye. He does not score goals from open play really ever and even though he is capable of dribbling into the box he usually doesn't come up with a decent end product.
All in all I can see very compelling arguments both ways, and I always have an eye on him, but seem to think getting him at the right run of fixtures where clean sheets are more likely and just hoping he gets some pens in those games is more worth owning him as a season keeper. Especially early doors when it's a lot to plump on a defender.Open ControlsCheers Walsh. Just for me it just seems like a no-brained. In my team from start if gw1 to end of gw38. No question. Playing every week as well. City away or leicester at home. He plays for me.
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I agree, if it wasn't for the opening fixtures he would be in my team from the start. But Ars, Chelsea, ManU and Liv in the first 7 gws! It makes it tough to justify 😉
Open ControlsAll this we know, and he's definitely a viable option BUT: Everton play Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United in the first 7. Of the remaining 3 fixtures in the first 7, 2 are on the road. That's pretty tough.
Open ControlsCan anyone tell me whether or not his was persuasive in any way. Only, it's my dream jt be a sports journalist when I'm older and my grandad said I have to write persuasive stuff.
Open ControlsI have to go to bed but if someone could just read and reply I would appreciate it a lot. Thanks.
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Baines is good value, no doubt and a nailed on starter for the entire season (barring injury) in a strong defensive team, offering attacking points with crosses and set-pieces in the locker.
If you calculate points per game last season divided by current price (i.e. PPG per million), he is one of the highest valued in the entire player list (especially if consider only players with high minutes played) and therefore a sound investment. Much better value on this basis than Haz, Studge and Roon as examples (ignoring the captain's armband).
That said, I am not starting with him due to early fixtures and can't quite fit him into my current squad. I am hoping the price will drop a little before I get him after game 8 when fixtures improve substantially and he will be locked into my squad for the duration (s.t. injuries). However, I think that having him from the start is a very sound choice.Open Controls
Sorry to post again - thanks Jakeyv for your help before, just looking for some more advice!
Krul - Myhill
Debuchy - Wisdom - Luis - Shaw - Ward
Lamela - Mata - Ramsey - Arnotovic - Puncheon
Rooney - Costa - BojanOpen ControlsCan you RMT for a beginner? Muchly appreciated.
Given / Myhill
Terry / Duff / Ward / Wisdom
Mata / Ramsey / Fabregas / Lamela / Young
Rooney / Giroud / LongOpen ControlsYou literally have no goalkeeper?
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OK, so after the chelsea match tonight, what are our thoughts on the defence line up for the weekend?
I wanna hear what u guys think, then ill tell you what I think, if your interested that isOpen ControlsIvan Cahill terry(benatia of signs) luis
We are strongly linked with benatia apparently which IMO would mean the end for jtOpen ControlsWhy on earth would chelsea need another CB? Put all us fantasy managers out of a job 😛
Open ControlsNo idea. But he is better then any of our current crop. Most likely won't happen b been strong rumours today. I wouldn't mind. Would mean Ivan would never play cb tho.
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So tempted to captain Costa over Rooney after todays showings
Open ControlsHe was on fire, the first goal was very good. but more than that, he was all over the pitch, in the pouring rain i might add, and he was electric to watch
Open ControlsIts up to you, not a bad shout.
I see you took my advice then 😉Open Controlsadvice?
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Things are running behind schedule on that front, I am sure they will post posted as soon as they are ready. They will be where the pre season tab is now.Open Controls
ps, hey rodallega, whats the score on these predicted line up things? are they out yet?
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a) Jelavic
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b ) Steven Fletcher?
Remeber, Shane Long is no longer with Hull.Open ControlsJelavic for game time
Open ControlsHis he on PK? Brady is back and they have Snodgrass...
Nevertheless, his he a great option for 6m?Open Controls
b) Hull are screwed
Open ControlsPro great fixtures Cons poor pre season, Jelly unfit, europa huge distraction.
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Fletcher is a far superior goal scorer to Jelavic, but Hull have better fixtures. Tough one, if the 0.5 is important to you I'd back Fletcher in
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What happened with Evans and will he be fit for the weekend?
Open Controlshe posted a RMT here and not the RMT thread....
Then realized that only 2 people responded to his RMT on that thread after answering many others so he go up to grab a coffee, slipped and jarred his back. Should be ok for the weekend thoughOpen ControlsIm trying to find out the same thing mersey...
Open Controlsthe cool kids either have 3 attacking Man U players or 2 attacking and DDG....
Back 3 a lottery until after the transfer window closes imoOpen Controls
Do we know the extent of Evans' injury? Been out of the loop the last day or two, not sure I fancy a United defender without him
Open ControlsDo people think that Man U will really keep clean sheets through the start? Their defence keeps changing therefore why are so many people get DDG at 5.5?
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Please post RMTs in the RMT thread
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/rate-4/
Also helping others will probably get replies in return.Open ControlsAre you going to bother posting this Friday and Saturday I can honestly see it being pointless.
Open ControlsI think you'll get more help there than here if that helps.
Here will just be a cycle of RMT reposts.Open ControlsI've helped over there a few times but the amount of casuals that go on it and just leave after they've got their team rated. Like everytime it seems to be the same people rating.
Open ControlsI know what you mean.
RMTs here won't get answered meaning RMT reposts etc.
Only a few more days to go.
I could always just remove RMTs here 😉Open ControlsI don't mind them as this is a community website where we try to help people but perhaps anyone who spams teams give a 10 minute timeout or something.
Open ControlsIs that even possible??
Open ControlsThere must be some sort of programme to allow it.
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Yeah the RMT's should slow down until Jan WC
Open ControlsHe was only talking this week 🙂
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how did hazard perform tonight?
Open ControlsLooked good at times still nothing amazing though.
Open Controlsin your team?
Open ControlsNope needed the extra 1 elsewhere so have Fab and Costa as cover. But would like to get Hazard just can't find a suitable way for him.
Open Controlsdid u see where Fab played today?
Open ControlsDoesn't matter he'll play the same sort if role as Yaya as Matic will allow him to push forward.
Open Controlshe played with Matic today, did u see where he played?
Open ControlsI really don't think you understand football. It doesn't matter where he played Fabregas will always have spells where he pushes forward he was not bought as a defensive midfielder. He also has a very good through ball meaning a lot of assists could be his as well.
Open ControlsOk, I dont understand football. you win all the points, someone get this guy a freaking crown.....
Open ControlsDon't need a crown just need to know I've supported my team way before 2004 🙂
Open Controlsbecause i started supporting my team when? last week......?
Open ControlsNo in 2004
Open Controlsand where did u get that from.....?
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He looked confident, on top of his game, and relaxed. for sure the second best player on the pitch.
he has this swagger you know, hes great. he will do great this yearOpen Controls
Walsh around?
Open ControlsCan you give me some insight into mariappas situation? Both with being first choice, and his current injury if you don't mind please.
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Who got Costa assists?
Open Controlsand the rest of the team? 🙂
Open ControlsGo on then forehead post the whole team should be interesting.
Open ControlsBegovic 4m
Baines Manquillo Marriappa PVA Wisdom
Yaya Sterling Davis Fabregas 4.5
Studge Rooney AustinOpen ControlsSome massive punts in there but looks good. Not sure on playing Davis and Austin week in week out though.
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Ouch.
Your team must rem, interesting.Open ControlsAnd that's the end of your team.
Open ControlsPoor Berbino forhed, he onlee tri b so luvly 🙁
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looks that way, he just played 90 mins, no cech in sight
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Act casual
Is this a good tactic for the first 7 GWs?Open ControlsGet Barkley in and prove it.
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12m for Long is some serious business from Hull.
Open ControlsNearly as good as 13m for Javier Garcia for city.
Open ControlsKoeman had to have been drunk. Convinced of this.
Open ControlsCould of got Hernandez for another million or two
Open ControlsNo good if he wants a hold up man.
Hernandez does a good line in falling over the ball outside the box he's shit.Open ControlsHernandez is one of the best natural goalscorers in the premiership. Never given a good enough chance at united.
Open ControlsOverrated IMO.
He scores toe pokes from two yards.
If he was one of the best natural finishers in the league we'd all have seen it by now.
Completely useless and non existent in build up play if your carrying someone like that in the modern game they need to be shit hot in front of goal. He ain't.Open ControlsTwo yard two pokes makes him a better striker then it seems. Gotta have an instinct to be in the right place right time so often. I think he is fantastic.
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For the full season would you choose
1. Mata / Costa
2. Ramsey / RooneyOpen ControlsThese next few days are possibly the worst of my life.
Mini operation, results day from college and the possibility of LFC signing Eto'o.
If you don't hear from me then it was nice knowing you guys.Open ControlsWe won't get Eto'o he's useless and just a liability in the wage area.
Open ControlsYou'll be fine and likely some fun pain pills to boot, you'll kill it, Eto'o will pull a Remy and not be passed fit last minute. Best days of your life.
Open ControlsNo chance. 🙁
Kelly a decent signing for you for 1.5 million btw. Just injury prone but all in all a solid player.Open ControlsYeah very happy with it. Not long ago he was quite incredibly rated, seemed like a perfect BR reclamation project just can't take those types on anymore at Liverpool. TP will get the most out of him for sure if he can stay fit. Also for such a paltry sum, nice bit of business.
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Don't forget to enter Last Man Standing
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/11/torres-magics-last-man-standing-competition/Open ControlsCan anyone recommend a 4.5 solid starter in defence and midfiel please 🙂
Open ControlsCan't believe it's come to this, but:
1. Sturridge / Mutch
2. Mata / EriksenOpen Controlshttps://twitter.com/Reusicles/status/499332269627412480
This is hurting my heart. This picture would've been perfect. ARGH!Open ControlsThere is no 20 either tho
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Best 6.5 or under midfielder? (apart from Sigurdsson, Henderson)
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Do we think Ben Davies if first choice?
Open ControlsI'm going away for the weekend and I have to say my holiday will be ruined if I do badly in FPL.
This is what it has come to.Open Controls

