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The FPL Bonus Points – Moving the Goalposts?

While the Fantasy Premier League player list is taking up the bulk of our time, sapping our energies and thinking – some will no doubt have noticed that Wednesday’s launch also brought several rule changes. One such tweak involved the allocation of Bonus Points. The “man in the stand” from the Press Association is no longer the “judge and jury” behind these points – from this season the FPL have gone back to a method driven by an Index, fuelled by statistics that measure player actions and team performance.

The EA SPORTS Player Performance Index (EA SPORTS PPI) will now be the recipient of our post-match wrath – although given that cold hard statistics will be behind it, it’s going to be more difficult to justify the bile.

Such a change inevitably poses some questions but for us at Fantasy Football Scout, it also gives us the opportunity to offer a new feature to offer Members a helping hand.

What is the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index?

The Premier League site offers a full explanation of this right here so we won’t go into too much detail. Effectively the index uses an algorithm to provide a single value which offers an appraisal of a player’s performance in a Premier League match. That algorithm takes into account a variety of statistics gathered from a match reflecting player actions on the pitch such as – shots, clearances, saves etc. Goals scored, assists and clean sheets are perhaps the biggest factors in the calculation of the index score but crucially, the outcome of the match is also very significant. A player in the winning team is far more likely to register a high EA SPORTS PPI score than a player on the losing side.

What does this mean for the Fantasy Premier League Bonus Points?

It’s hard to say. While we are likely to have more visibility on the factors that affect the award of the Bonus Points, it’s still very difficult to predict which players will benefit next season. The fact that winning performances are crucial suggests that players amongst the top sides will be far more likely to earn big totals of Bonus Points than those turning out for struggling sides. To put this into perspective, Charlie Adam had the highest Bonus Point total in the Fantasy Premier League game last season. However, he ranked just 20th overall in the EA SPORTS PPI.

It’s also notable that, out of the top 25 EA SPORTS PPI ranked players last season, 10 of them were Man United or Chelsea players, 3 were at Man City, 2 at Liverpool and 1 at Arsenal. Charlie Adam was the only player from a relegated club in the top 30. Scott Parker – the player of the year last season – was not in the top 10 midfielders and was ranked 70th overall.

The jury is very much out on the effectiveness of the EA SPORTS PPI then but we can only really speculate on how it will distribute the FPL Bonus Points until the season is underway. One thing we’re pretty sure on – we noticed last season that goalscorers were big beneficiaries of Bonus Point awards – our guess is that this will continue with the implementation of the EA SPORTS PPI. Goalscorers on winning sides are set for regular gains then. Is that any different to the old PA Sports method? Only time will tell.

How can Fantasy Football Scout help?

At least now we know that the statistics available to our Members have a definite impact on a player’s likelihood of earning FPL Bonus Points. Our Members already have access to the statistics that contribute to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data. By interrogating last season’s data now, you can already get a view on the top performers across the statistics that matter. We will be publishing members articles to aid this process too.

As you no doubt will have heard, Fantasy Football Scout are also contributing articles to the FPL this season. “The Scout” will examine the Bonus Point allocation each gameweek and attempt to breakdown the factors behind the awards using the EA SPORTS PPI data.

We’re going to provide something new however. Something a little extra…

The Scout ICT Index – Influence, Creativity and Threat

We have a new way for Members to read and analyse statistics this season. We’ve built our own Fantasy Football Index – the Scout “ICT” Index. This measures the performance of Premier League players in three key areas – Influence, Creativity and Threat. The first of those, a player’s Influence, will use similar performance indicators to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data, although our algorithm will be different.

Our index score for Influence won’t take the results into consideration and will therefore offer a level playing field to those players who suffer defeat in a match. In this way our Index will hopefully be effective at finding influential players within struggling clubs, but should still offer our Members a view on which players are more likely to score highly in the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore be in line for Bonus Points. While the FPL Bonus Points arriving “the morning after matches” – our members can get access to our ICT index once we update our data – often just 10-20 minutes after the final whistle has blown.

In basic terms the ICT index will help to make our Opta data more digestible. It will offer one single index score for Influence, one for Creativity and one for Threat. These will help to measure a player’s importance to their team and to a match, a player’s likelihood to earn assists and to score goals, or at least get in goalscoring situations. Those three figures will then be combined to create a single ICT Index score to measure a player’s overall performance contribution from a Fantasy perspective.

Index scores will be generated on a gameweek basis and cumulatively over the season. The full Opta data will still be available of course, but Members will now have an easy route to identify how players are performing across the key statistics.

The index, like any football index, will be far from perfect. There will be tweaks along the way. Plenty of discussions as we go. Even so, the ICT Index is already providing us with plenty of talking points and insight behind the scenes and we think it’s going to be a valuable addition for our Members. It will also give us plenty of material to discuss in a series of new Members articles.

We currently have the ICT Index in test and will be creating new tables and new sidebar widgets that will give Members quick access to the top performers on our Index on a gameweek basis and over the season as a whole. These widgets will also form the basis of our new dashboard available to Members when they log into the Members area.

Keep ‘em peeled for more news on this in the next few weeks.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. mikeywoodward
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Lads a nice rmt please any feedback or alternatives you think i should have thanks

    Given, Krul
    Kompany, cole, Oshea, Riise Caulker
    Valencia, N zogbia, ben arfa, albrighton, moses
    Torres, RVP, Beckford
    0.0 in bank

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    1. conor2me
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Ba over Beckford (everton are slow starers)for me anyway and i'd rather have Bardsley over O'shea.Ben afra and Valencia arnt really gonna have a pre season so i'd keep my eye on them.Otherwise it looks good

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      1. mikeywoodward
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        thanks mate why ba over beckford? everton have better fixtures.

        bardsley over oshea is a good shout but is bardsley now udner pressure for his place?

        whats the deal with valencia i havnt seen anything bad? he injured or something?

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        1. conor2me
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/14/antonio-valencia-manchester-united-injury just have to wait and see when he will be back and how sharp he will be. I really think Ba is gonna have a big season, he did brillantly with West Ham in a couple of games and he's Nnewcastles only stiker and they tend to score a decent amount at St.James Park, the oshea/bardsley situation is tough, but id take bardsley over oshea cause i think hes a better attacking threat

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  2. stilicho
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Repost - bottom of last page:

    The observation that the highest scorers on the BP index tend to come from the top teams may serve as a bit of a red herring in practice. The bonus points will be allocated from the teams that are playing in any given game, so to pick up BPs you only need to score more than the other players in that game. The fourth best player in Man Utd vs Chelsea may score twice as many EA points than the best player in Wigan V Swansea, but it’s the player in Wigan v Swansea that will pick up the fpl points.

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    1. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      True, FOR THAT GAME.

      But next week when it's

      Chelsea v Swansea
      United v Wigan

      and Wigan and Swansea both get done 3-0 there is basically no chance any player on the losing team will pick up any bonus even if they were as godlike at Charlie Adam at getting 3bps while losing.

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        ...but Adam excepted that is precisely the same picture we would have seen under the old system.

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    2. Qubit
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Shhhh, christ people have got to figures something out for themselves. Ive been doing some quick comparisons for some of my likely opening fixtures. 🙂 (sad i know)

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    3. Andy
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      But Wigan will win ten(?) games while United/Chelsea/Liverpool/Arsenal etc will win twenty(?).

      Completely made up figures on number of wins, but with the win weighting it means that you're looking for those that will beat Wigan and Swansea - not the best of both those sides.

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Sure, but the old system also weighted the bps towards players from the winning team, with the notable exception of Charlie Adam. What I'm getting at is that scoring highly on the EA figures won't necessarily mean BPs, someone could score less in a different game and pick up all 3. Obviously there's a degree of stating the obvious with this, I just want to warn against inferreing from the article that if you want BPs you have to pick 3 Man Utd, 3 Chelsea, 1 Man City etc..

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        1. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Yep, you're spot on. Over the season players on winning sides do seem likely to have bigger totals of EA Index score but, for FPL purposes, it's all about the fixture in question. Some players, like N'Zogbia for example were previously immune to results to some extent so it will be interesting to see how they will come out of this.

          All we know is that there is a change - that change will likely have some effect - the extent of that is unknown. We do know however that those players who rack up impressive stats are more likely to rank highly on the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore should have more chance of earning Bonus.

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          1. stilicho
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            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            "We do know however that those players who rack up impressive stats are more likely to rank highly on the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore should have more chance of earning Bonus."

            This can only be a good thing. Well, for members at least 🙂

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    4. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Cracking point that! Rich and compelling.

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    5. TFP
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      @ stilicho - I sort of get where you're coming from, and to be honest it is difficult to get one's head around, but the stats from last year are pretty clear - charlie adam comfortably outscored any other player in terms of FPL bonus points but limped home in 20th place in the EA rankings, behind the likes of Kevin Nolan and Dirk Kuyt.

      to be fair though Adam was a bit of a freak in the FLP game. i don't recall ever seeing a payer who hogged BPs quite like him [other than maybe when someone like Henry or CRonaldo was banging in 30+ goals a season and MOTM every other week]

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Putting Adam aside, who even by fpl standards was an exceptional bapslag, my point is a reasonable one.

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    6. James
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Excellent point. Fully agree!

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    7. cechmate
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Couldn't agree more.

      It should be taken into account when looking at the highest scorers is that those near the top may have got extremely high points in a few games and average points in the rest which wouldn't translate into regular baps.

      It's also possible that some of the players near the top of the index were consistently 3/4/5th top scorer in every game, which translates into a high overall ranking but again, not many baps. Someone like Kompany is 7th in the standings and I could imagine him getting consistently good scores in games but always missing out on baps. Adam, on the other hand, is 20th but probably amassed nost of his points in the games that Blackpool won and very few when Blackpool lost. So he'd walk away with 2/3 baps in every win and ending up a lot better in fantasy terms.

      So I think the skill is going to be picking out the players that shine when their team wins - no matter who they play for.

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  3. southwind
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Given/Al Habs
    Kompany/Luiz/Riise/Walker/Gibbs
    Yaya/Downing/Albrighton/Barton/Sinclair
    Suarez/Hernandez/Ba

    any thoughts?

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  4. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Done a bit of tweaking, had defence of:
    Hart Ruddy
    Luiz Hughes O'Shea Simpson Orr.

    Swapped Riise for hughes. What is best rotating GW combo for 10m total?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Given + Begovic

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  5. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Mark this all sounds awesome especially the ICT index.

    I must admit that I have wondered on occasion how one is supposed to analyse the mass of statistics available. I'm a bit of a Statto anyway so I enjoy it.

    However having them collated and seperated into easily digestible titbits will be great. Yummy.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      It will be Yummy if we r able to predict which players will be new BP darlings,

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    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Lol love your user name. Makes me chuckle every time.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Tommy G

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        1. James
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Im pretty sure he was referring to Impressive Tackle.

          Lol!

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  6. Fray Bentos
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    I can't wait for this ict index! I can't wait for this season!

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  7. Tommyg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    What formation are most going for on here. I think I'll be 4-3-3.

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      3-4-3 for me, depending on the fixture.

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      1. Hughes the Daddy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        343 I reckon, at least at the start

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    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Think it best for your formation to depend on the players you pick for any given match

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  8. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Looking at the teams listed everywhere there seems to be a favoured selection for defenders:

    1) Exp, Exp, Mid, Mid, Cheap as Chips

    Clearly the Mids rotate to make up the third slot. Are there any out there looking to do this rather:

    2) Exp, Mid, Mid, Mid, Mid, CAC?

    I've worked out that (depending) on selection setup 2 can be priced at 24.5 - 25(.5) where as setup 1 is roughly gonna cost 26mil. Setup 1 does offer a little more safety in terms of quality. So my question really is...Quality or Extra Cash?

    (And I know...quality doesn't always translate into Fantasy success)

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Basically Ill play 3 at the back and either go for the 5th mid and third striker rotating, or two cheapish mids rotating and play 3 strikers. Not sure yet. Lots can change

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      1. Hanso Lo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Hey sorry No Cesc, those lists are only for defenders the Exp, Mid classification was price bracket...sorry...should have been more clear...I'm trying to work out if I should rotate 4 players to make up my back 3 or have 2 every game starters and rotate players 3 and 4 and leave 5 for those desperate times?

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    2. Duckbill
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      i would go with 1 but avoid having a cheap as chips 5th, that will hardly get any game time or 2pts at best.

      You need to get somone who will offer something extra or from a decent team. I had craddock 2 seasons ago and foley last season as the 5th option and they got me the odd goals.

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  9. Fratboy
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Slightly different RMT guys?

    Kenny
    Briggs Alex Kompany
    Dyer Nani Yaya Toure(c) Malouda
    Zamora Rooney(v) Bent

    Given Ephraim Simpson Ward

    Managed to get such a lush starting XI together mmmmmmmm

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Briggs, Alex and Nani all rotation risks. Yaya isn't a captaincy candidate for my liking in any week.

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      1. Fratboy
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Jol has played Briggs a fair bit pre-season
        Alex- fair enough, that's obviously subject to change...just a hope for now.
        Nani - playing great in pre-season, I will have a United midfielder regardless.

        Yaya gets great ICT BPS and he's a certain starter against Swansea...speaks for itself

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          I'd go the other way, one thing I do not want is a Man U midfielder. Why bother spending 8-10 mil on a player that's not guaranteed a start regardless of how well they played in the previous game.

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          1. Fratboy
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            something tells me you're not a United fan! 🙂

            I just want one of them to support them really, I sort of intertwine my support with my team 😉

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Nani= fail
      Briggs?
      Dyer?

      Crap bench...
      6/10

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      1. Fratboy
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Why is Nani a fail?
        Briggs Fulham defender, cheap and scored in pre-season and starting for the moment...
        Dyer: rapid, cheap and will embarrass Citeh's defence.

        Terrible Bench.

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  10. Hughes the Daddy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Given, Ruddy
    Kompany, Kelly, Bramble, Colins, Givet
    Malouda, Downing, NZogbia, Barton, Buszaky
    RVP, Bent, Zamora

    Think I'm starting to get somewhere. [Bent can become Carroll/Suarez if decide to do so). Any suggestions...

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    1. Hughes the Daddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      *Collins (STK)

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    2. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Bit more balanced than mine haha, nb nb

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      1. Hughes the Daddy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Constant tinkering is draining my brain now 🙂

        Think I should shelve it at least for a week or so, ha!

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    3. jimnastics
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Don't like the sound of Downing at all... even if he starts regularly, all you're hoping for is assists from out wide, because I doubt very much he'll get near any set pieces with Gerrard on the pitch. Really can't see the value in Downing.

      I'm not convinced by Malouda at the moment, it seems as though AVB doesn't see him as part of a frontline attack like he was last season. If he plays, it looks like he'll be in a midfield 3, which seriously limits his FPL value.

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      1. Hughes the Daddy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Interesting, I'll bear this in mind ta. My thinking on Downing is that he is such a great crosser and will get loads of assists, esp for Carroll's head! Also, he's not shy about banging a few in himself.

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      2. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Suarez should take all the deadballs since he has got a far better delivery than Gerrard.

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  11. DementedFlamingo
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Hey Mark and co, gee I've noticed a large volume of great articles so far this season. Seems more than last season, you guys must be going like crazy....

    I just had a thought. What's the chances/value in running some early season polls like the end of season polls.... There's a ton of RMTs already and it could be easy to point people in the direction of the top 10 FFS Fan picks based on polls for most popular Keeper, Defender etc

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    1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      +1!

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      1. Cahill
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        +1!!!

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    2. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Yep, Andy's got one done. We will have it up at the weekend.

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  12. Scroobius Mac
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Hmm had a fiddle and feeling happier with this right now. Obviously it'll still be changed 800 times before the end but anybody want to point out glaringly obvious mistakes?
    Kenny (Given)
    Cashley, Kompany, De Laet (Bardsley, Simpson)
    Zogs, VDV, O'Hara, Sinclair (Sessegnon)
    Bent, Torres, Zamora.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      It's a "tinker", not a "fiddle", that's plain wrong!!

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Haha I did look at the word fiddle after submitting and think that's not quite right.

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        1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Having a fiddle always lifts my spirits.

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          1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            In fact, just seeing a picture of a woman giving a good fiddling can really make my day:
            http://www.robink.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/fiddle.jpg

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      2. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Tinkle.

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  13. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Regarding BP I thought that initially BP were established to give reward to players that don't often score or assist but are doing excellent job for the team overall performance, so this BP are something like replacement for lack of goals and assist, having Modric in example in mind.

    With the new rules for me it seems that simply the goal or assist will have more value. IN example if striker scores think of it like its 5 point at least already, midfielder scoring is 6-7 points and assist is gonna be 4 point at least IMO.

    Bottom line the main reasons for introducing this BP is abandoned. Its all due to the fact that there were a lot of comments and moaning about the subjectivity and a lot of mistakes done in the past. Maybe it would be better if those bugs were resolved, now its all left to statistic.

    So be it.

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    1. Hanso Lo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      You gotta wonder how Kompany got such a high ranking though...in a winning team but he never really stood out for goals or anything....so where'd he get his high rating from?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I agree Blu Zulu I forget to add that this my observation is only about strikers and mids, not defenders,

        Sorry but with this addition this observation stands.

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    2. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      We shall see. I think goalscorers and assisters will benefit but there is also wiggle room for players outside of that to earn BP's if their stats in a game are impressive enough. We're going to need the season to start before we know where we stand but, as I'll be decoding the BP's as part of our Scout articles, we will be fully immersed in it.

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      1. Hanso Lo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        If you go by Mids and Strikers only then you need to look at how most people are advising and setting up their own teams...no-one is suggesting getting in a Modric type player...hardly anyone suggests that ever...so you may be right but in the grand scheme I don't think it's an issue really...we're all looking for goal scorers and assist machines...

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  14. Chris de Borg
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Mark, and those wondering about the origins of the EA Sports Player Performance Index, it IS the old Actim Index, with EA Sports as the new sponsor:

    "The Actim Index is the official player ratings system of the Barclays Premiership, Coca-Cola Championship, and Scottish Premier League. It is compiled and distributed by PA Sport, a subsidiary of the Press Association. In 2010, it was renamed as the EA Sports Player Performance Index."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actim_Index

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    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks Chris...

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      1. Chris de Borg
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        No problem. If anyone is looking for some Wiki glory, it sure looks like that Wikipedia page could use a rewrite, update and rename.

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  15. camels_toes
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    guys im have dramas with my team what you think .......

    gk: given (ruddy)
    df: baines, luiz, alcaraz, clichy,(foley)
    md: nzogbia, maxi rodriguez, dempsey,(van der gun, ephram)
    st: rooney, drogba rodeagella

    any helpful comments ??

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  16. sambyy
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Might aswell do one RMT

    Given Kenny
    Kompany Cole Hughes Simpson Orr
    Malouda N'Zogbia Sinclair Sessegnon Buzsaky
    RVP Suarez Zamora

    Team value 99.5, 0.0 in bank 🙁

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  17. mufc802
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    RMT revision 0.2: Main problem is there's no Man City attacking coverage but I don't know who to pick?

    Given | Kenny
    Samba | Kompany | Cole A | Taylor S | De Laet
    Albrighton | Van der Vaart | Malouda | Sessegnon | Sinclair
    Carrol | Zamora | Ba

    Out of 10 please. 🙂

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    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      de laet won't play. and i have a gut feeling that suarez will do much better than carrol. but other than that, decent team.

      8/10

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  18. Ceefax Page 302
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    I only ever do one rate my team pre season and this is it. Team is based on the first six game weeks only. All and any comments welcome!

    Ruddy, Kenny
    Hangeland, Vermaelen, Craddock, Huth, S Taylor
    Hoolahan, Lampard, Dempsey, Sinclair, Brunt
    Odemwingie, Van Persie, Holt

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  19. Badonge
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Any reasons why Lampard is so unpopular this year in terms of % teams selected?

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    1. Hughes the Daddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Major underperformance last year

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      1. Badonge
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        major injury last year, massive overall chelsea flop. New manager in AVB, new season

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      2. Monklane
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Not quite. He finished the season strongly.

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Imagine having Lampard as a "differential"... the less people that have him the better imo

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  20. rrwholloway
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    First tinker (or fiddle)
    RMT:
    GKs: Kenny (Guzan)

    Def: Luiz Clichy Riise (Gibbs) (Simpson)

    Mid: N'Zogbia Dempsey Nani Taarabt (O'Hara)

    Fwd: Zamora Odemwingie Carroll

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    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      taarabt is going to leave for sure. and i don't think carroll is worth the 10m. get at least one top 4 (or now 6) keeper. and i would like to wait and see how mancini plays kolarov and clichy.. so i wouldn't take any of them in just yet.

      6/10

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    2. villian-ty
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Guzan???

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  21. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    20.5m remaining for two MFs and one forward.
    Was thinking nzogbia+cheap player from newly promoted team (already have sinclair) in the midfield and maybe a decent 7.5-8m for a striker. Do you think Connor wickham is worth the gamble? and who is on penalty duties for QPR and norwich?

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Zogs, Zamora and Yaya?

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      1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        yaya? hm.. it's a gamble. wonder if i should take it..
        not keen on zamora though.

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  22. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    this article was the final straw....
    sold!
    superb work guys

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  23. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Team V2, opinions welcome:
    Given Begovic
    Luiz Kompany O'Shea Simpson Orr
    Malouda O'Hara Sinclair Ben Arfa/other 5.5 Yaya
    RVP Suarez Zamora

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    1. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Assuming everyone starts and players heal (which we should always do I think), it's a great GW1 team.

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  24. ohffs
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else eyeing up Blackburn players? Pretty decent start to the season, any fans who know the first choice defence?

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    1. Duckbill
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking of getting dunn in early before he gets injured.

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  25. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    No more tinkering, this is what I'm taking into GW1

    Al-Habsi (Given)

    Kompany / Rafeal / Jose Enrique (Orr, Simpson)

    N'Zogbia / Sessegnon / Albrighton / Malouda (Sinclair)

    Carroll / Van Persie / Zamora

    Betting Rafeal starts at RB and Jose Enrique is 1st choice at Liverpool, will switch Carroll for Suarez after GW3

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  26. camels_toes
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    guys im have dramas with my team what you think …….

    gk: given (ruddy)
    df: baines, luiz, alcaraz, clichy,(foley)
    md: nzogbia, maxi rodriguez, dempsey,(van der gun, ephram)
    st: rooney, drogba rodeagella

    any helpful comments ??

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  27. Milkman
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Can anyone firm up for me the Spurs defensive line up?

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    1. stilicho
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      In principle:

      Corluka King Dawnson Benny

      In practice:

      Corluka/Hutton Gallas Dawson Benny/Rose

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Huttons off and even if he isn't Walkers got to be ahead of him.

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        1. stilicho
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Pure speculation.

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    2. Boom!!!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      walker/corluka dawson gallas bae

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    3. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      BAE - Dawson - Gallas - Walker/Corluka
      I think.

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  28. Milkman
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Yer I was wondering about Gallas. Seems quite cheap but if Ledley King is fit he's out the window eh?

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    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      undoubtedly.

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  29. Ceefax Page 302
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Any players been listed in the wrong position, ie, forwards listed as midfielders?

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      You want good OOP or bad OOP?
      Good: Sessegnon, Walters, Possibly Kolarov - can't see any others yet.
      Bad: Erm Coleman, Rose?

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Walters lines up as a striker but plays like a defensive midfielder

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    2. vova
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      tchoyi will potentially play as a striker.

      AMAZING Stat: Tchoyi has scored 4 goals in 135 mins whilstplaying as a striker

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  30. tom_k16
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    hi guys could you please help me out and rmt

    gk - given
    defence - baines, a.cole, o'shea, kompany
    midfield - barton, sinclair, vdv, arteta
    strikers - rooney (c) suarez

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