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22 July 2011 2654 comments
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While the Fantasy Premier League player list is taking up the bulk of our time, sapping our energies and thinking – some will no doubt have noticed that Wednesday’s launch also brought several rule changes. One such tweak involved the allocation of Bonus Points. The “man in the stand” from the Press Association is no longer the “judge and jury” behind these points – from this season the FPL have gone back to a method driven by an Index, fuelled by statistics that measure player actions and team performance.

The EA SPORTS Player Performance Index (EA SPORTS PPI) will now be the recipient of our post-match wrath – although given that cold hard statistics will be behind it, it’s going to be more difficult to justify the bile.

Such a change inevitably poses some questions but for us at Fantasy Football Scout, it also gives us the opportunity to offer a new feature to offer Members a helping hand.

What is the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index?

The Premier League site offers a full explanation of this right here so we won’t go into too much detail. Effectively the index uses an algorithm to provide a single value which offers an appraisal of a player’s performance in a Premier League match. That algorithm takes into account a variety of statistics gathered from a match reflecting player actions on the pitch such as – shots, clearances, saves etc. Goals scored, assists and clean sheets are perhaps the biggest factors in the calculation of the index score but crucially, the outcome of the match is also very significant. A player in the winning team is far more likely to register a high EA SPORTS PPI score than a player on the losing side.

What does this mean for the Fantasy Premier League Bonus Points?

It’s hard to say. While we are likely to have more visibility on the factors that affect the award of the Bonus Points, it’s still very difficult to predict which players will benefit next season. The fact that winning performances are crucial suggests that players amongst the top sides will be far more likely to earn big totals of Bonus Points than those turning out for struggling sides. To put this into perspective, Charlie Adam had the highest Bonus Point total in the Fantasy Premier League game last season. However, he ranked just 20th overall in the EA SPORTS PPI.

It’s also notable that, out of the top 25 EA SPORTS PPI ranked players last season, 10 of them were Man United or Chelsea players, 3 were at Man City, 2 at Liverpool and 1 at Arsenal. Charlie Adam was the only player from a relegated club in the top 30. Scott Parker – the player of the year last season – was not in the top 10 midfielders and was ranked 70th overall.

The jury is very much out on the effectiveness of the EA SPORTS PPI then but we can only really speculate on how it will distribute the FPL Bonus Points until the season is underway. One thing we’re pretty sure on – we noticed last season that goalscorers were big beneficiaries of Bonus Point awards – our guess is that this will continue with the implementation of the EA SPORTS PPI. Goalscorers on winning sides are set for regular gains then. Is that any different to the old PA Sports method? Only time will tell.

How can Fantasy Football Scout help?

At least now we know that the statistics available to our Members have a definite impact on a player’s likelihood of earning FPL Bonus Points. Our Members already have access to the statistics that contribute to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data. By interrogating last season’s data now, you can already get a view on the top performers across the statistics that matter. We will be publishing members articles to aid this process too.

As you no doubt will have heard, Fantasy Football Scout are also contributing articles to the FPL this season. “The Scout” will examine the Bonus Point allocation each gameweek and attempt to breakdown the factors behind the awards using the EA SPORTS PPI data.

We’re going to provide something new however. Something a little extra…

The Scout ICT Index – Influence, Creativity and Threat

We have a new way for Members to read and analyse statistics this season. We’ve built our own Fantasy Football Index – the Scout “ICT” Index. This measures the performance of Premier League players in three key areas – Influence, Creativity and Threat. The first of those, a player’s Influence, will use similar performance indicators to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data, although our algorithm will be different.

Our index score for Influence won’t take the results into consideration and will therefore offer a level playing field to those players who suffer defeat in a match. In this way our Index will hopefully be effective at finding influential players within struggling clubs, but should still offer our Members a view on which players are more likely to score highly in the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore be in line for Bonus Points. While the FPL Bonus Points arriving “the morning after matches” – our members can get access to our ICT index once we update our data – often just 10-20 minutes after the final whistle has blown.

In basic terms the ICT index will help to make our Opta data more digestible. It will offer one single index score for Influence, one for Creativity and one for Threat. These will help to measure a player’s importance to their team and to a match, a player’s likelihood to earn assists and to score goals, or at least get in goalscoring situations. Those three figures will then be combined to create a single ICT Index score to measure a player’s overall performance contribution from a Fantasy perspective.

Index scores will be generated on a gameweek basis and cumulatively over the season. The full Opta data will still be available of course, but Members will now have an easy route to identify how players are performing across the key statistics.

The index, like any football index, will be far from perfect. There will be tweaks along the way. Plenty of discussions as we go. Even so, the ICT Index is already providing us with plenty of talking points and insight behind the scenes and we think it’s going to be a valuable addition for our Members. It will also give us plenty of material to discuss in a series of new Members articles.

We currently have the ICT Index in test and will be creating new tables and new sidebar widgets that will give Members quick access to the top performers on our Index on a gameweek basis and over the season as a whole. These widgets will also form the basis of our new dashboard available to Members when they log into the Members area.

Keep ‘em peeled for more news on this in the next few weeks.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    O'Shea or Hughes as 5m or less defender? got:
    given begovic
    kompany luiz orr simpson

    Any other 5m defenders worth it?

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    1. stilicho
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      • 15 Years
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      Warnock, Bramble at 4.5

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        not keen on doubling up on villa. Bramble will he play much?

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  2. Interfan9
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Hello Everyone,

    Would like some opinions on the team below. Thanks for your help!

    3-5-2 formation

    Given (Kenny)

    Kompany Jags Kelly (Simpson Ward)

    Albrighton Silva Sinclair Nzogbia Arteta

    RVP Drogba (Holt)

    Any thoughts one weak spots or potential improvements?

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    1. nimbin_headers
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      NICE TEAM DROGS.... IF HE PLAYS WHAT IF HE DOES NOT

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  3. GavG
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Hey, Looking for some thoughts on my team 🙂

    Kenny (Given)
    Rafael Elokobi Kompany (R Taylor Tate)
    Lampard Silva Dempsey Faurlin (Sinclair)
    RVP Zamora Rodallega

    Not too sure about Faurlin, was thinking about trying to get Sessegnon, but need extra 1 mill for him. Also not sure about R Taylor, but like him as an OOP last season and he is only 4.0, so can remove him in wildcard if needs be. Tate and Elokobi are bargains.

    Seems that players who were bargains last year have gone up to reflect their points haul of last season. Seems a lot harder this year.

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      1. denial
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        What do you reckon to him mv? Surely it means one of the existing strikers are going too - Crouch or Keane?

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        1. mvtaylor
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          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Crouch to Stoke for 10M wouldn't be bad business, add in Keane to absolutely anyway and I'd be rather happy.

          As frazek said, we needed to shift deadwood this summer and haven't done that which is disappointing.

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      2. Frazek
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Hmm, not sure about Vucinic. Talented player but seems to have an attitude problem. Would rather pull out the stops for Ade, myself, but then we both know how that's likely to pan out.

        Biggest frustration remains our failure to ship Keane and Bentley, and we could remain lumbered with both.

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  4. Link
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Sorry for the repost - lost in the abyss of the last page

    Right then,

    after an hour of tinkering I now have

    Given – Ruddy
    Kompany – Luiz – Samba – Simpson – Briggs
    Malouda – Walcott – Yaya – J.McArthy – J.Thomas
    Rooney – Suarez – Graham

    What do we think? Bases covered?

    Woudl really prefer Silva to Yaya but money is an issue…

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    1. El Pulpo Paul
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Seems to be quite a few fillers in there Briggs, McCarthy, Thomas,Graham, Ruddy, Simpson. Make it tough when some of your good players get injured, suspended, rested. Same problem myself trying to find the balance.

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      1. Link
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed. Briggs is certain bench fodder but McArthy, Thomas, Graham and Simpson are all starters...

        I see your poitn though...don't expect much from them...

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    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Think you get the prize for the best team so far for me. Cracking set up that. Think Roopig is gonna be a must this season. Just a hunch mind.

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    3. Tommyg
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Think you get the pride for the best team so far for me. Cracking set up that. Think Roopig is gonna be a must this season. Just a hunch mind.

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      1. Tommyg
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Stupid phone sorry about the repost with the wrong spelling.

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      2. Link
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Ta mate!

        Still will prob tinker from now until season starts.... Agree on Rooney this year though.

        The masses going with RVP from the start but I prefer Roons fixtures

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  5. El Pulpo Paul
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Appreciate a bit of help lads on the the first draft of my team

    Given
    Kompany-Skrtel-Alcaraz
    Albrighton-Lampard-Nzogbia-Wilshere
    Suarez-RVP-Ba

    Subs De Vries, Sinclair, Simpson, Caulker

    Whats the verdict, still plenty of tweaking to do?

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  6. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I have a feeling Silva is going to be this year's Nani.

    I remember sitting in exactly the same position last year thinking over who to put in, and initially vowed Nani would be in my starting team based on his form at the end of last season.

    But then you get a big list of players, and Nani just didn't seem worth it, so I went with Valencia instead...

    I'm sticking by my guns this year. Silva's in. Form at the tail end of last season was great, and he can only go up from there with a strengthened team.

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    1. Mr Sitter
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Wasn't his form massivel bonus point related though... Have to question how well this new EA PPI will serve him.

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    2. Link
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      Agree that I think he'll have a good season but a good FPL season... I dunno.

      Doesn't have the same attitude of 'stuff it I'm shooting from everywhere' as Nani does.

      To be honest though Nani was nowhere near my team GW1 last year so what do I know!

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    3. Hanso Lo
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm thinking the same...yet with those EA stats lurking I am now leaning towards Yaya again...The Opta stats also suggested Yaya to have been better...But as you say...that hunch is a big one...

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    4. Bad Seed
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I hope you're right. But even when he was showing great form, he never looked clinical in front of goal. There aren't many other mids I'd rather have though.

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  7. arsenalrock
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Some help with this would be appreciated:

    A. Albrighton and Suarez
    B. Van Der Vaart and Ba

    Thank

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    1. El Pulpo Paul
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Albrighton and suarez, gone for that myself. Only prob is when suarez will be back after copa america

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      1. arsenalrock
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks, anyone else just need some more thoughts:

        A. Ba and VDV
        B. Suarez and Albrighton

        If Suarez misses the first game or two, should I definitely do A.?

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        1. El Pulpo Paul
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Id go for Albrighton and Bent or someone you can easily sub in for suarez whens hes fully back

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  8. SkyByBo
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Agger or skrtel?

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    1. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      skrtel. that's what i'm doing.

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    2. p.pete
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Agger gets forward more in general play, not sure on set pieces?
      Skrtel's just getting back from injury so Dalglish may make him work his way into the team in the interests of squad rotation. Skrtel got 2 goals and an assist last year, I'd like to think a fully fit Agger would get that easily over a season.

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  9. Mr Sitter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Chances of this getting a reply are slim as it's going to be long-winded but stay with it...
    If you took each team as a separate home/away entity (ie MUN and mun, ARS and ars etc) so there are 40 possibilities in the league, who would you say are

    a) The top 10 attacking forces
    b) The top 10 defensive forces

    NB feasibly the list could read ARS ars MUN mun MCY mcy CHE che or it could be ARS CHE MUN MCY LIV TOT mun BLA

    Hope this makes sense.

    Trying to develop an "improved" ticker...

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    1. p.pete
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics

      Change the teams table to home league and away league - actually quite interesting, no team has away form that would get inside the top 9.

      Good look making a ticker!

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      1. p.pete
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        or

        Place Pts
        1 Man Utd 55
        2 Chelsea 45
        3 Manchester City 43
        4 Liverpool 40
        5 Arsenal 37
        6 Tottenham 36
        7 Bolton 35
        8 Stoke City 34
        9 Everton 34
        1 Arsenal AWAY 31
        10 Fulham 31
        11 Aston Villa 31
        12 WBA 30
        13 Blackburn 28
        2 Manchester City AWAY 28
        14 Wolves 28
        15 Newcastle 26
        3 Chelsea AWAY 26
        16 Sunderland 26
        4 Tottenham AWAY 26
        17 Birmingham 26
        5 Man Utd AWAY 25
        18 Wigan Athletic 23
        6 Sunderland AWAY 21
        7 Everton AWAY 20
        19 Blackpool 20
        20 West Ham Utd 20
        8 Newcastle AWAY 20
        9 Wigan Athletic AWAY 19
        10 Blackpool AWAY 19
        11 Fulham AWAY 18
        12 Liverpool AWAY 18
        13 WBA AWAY 17
        14 Aston Villa AWAY 17
        15 Blackburn AWAY 15
        16 Birmingham AWAY 13
        17 West Ham Utd AWAY 13
        18 Stoke City AWAY 12
        19 Wolves AWAY 12
        20 Bolton AWAY 11

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    2. Scoredelario
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Well, on average a team scores 1.5 times more goals at home than away, that might help.

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  10. Robert Jarni
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Guys

    Long time listener, first time caller!!

    Anyone know of any obvious mid-price GKs who rotate well with each other throughout the season? the Foster/Begovic and Schwarzer/Sorensen rotations have served me well in the previoius 2 seasons and I haven't seen any discussions on combos for 11/12.

    Any pointers appreciated

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    1. Scoredelario
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Schwarzer and given rotate quite well for first 20 games. Not perfect, but ok.

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  11. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    1. Odem - Scoring Machine and if I'm correct now has penalty duty? (can anyone confirm this?)
    2. Zamora - Seems to be striking and the coach is backing him. Also good fixtures.
    3. Ba - Well...is the cheaper option, can maybe rotate with a midfielder from SUN and is bound to knock in a few headers from the boot of Barton.

    What do you guys think? 1?

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    1. Kingston
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I like Odem out of those by far but not til gw3

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      From those 3 I prefer Pele

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  12. dz1984
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I've noticed a distinct lack of investment in Drogba so far.

    *£10.5m
    *Easy fixtures

    Am I missing something?

    Lots of investment in RVP but his opening fixtures are horrible.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      4-3-3
      Torres

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    2. stilicho
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Probably racism.

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Would "Grand Moderator of the Republic Stilicho" approve of that post?

        🙂

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        1. stilicho
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          GOD HELP YOU ALL WHEN I AM MODERATOR

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Will you shout out all your proclamations and sanctions?

            T'would be very rough on the throat, I reckon ... keep some lozenges handy.

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    3. FPL Daniel
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Roman will insist Mr Schevcenko to start.

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  13. Kingston
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    It looks like the Carrol v Suarez debate will continue until the season starts (and probably longer). I've gone for Carroll as i reckon he'll be Liverpools top goalscorer and Suarez will be more of a creator. Suarez picked up alot of BP's last season but it seems the new index is more in favour of the goalscorers

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  14. Cormac Anderson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    The price's for midfielders and forwards in EPL Fantasy are a joke , way to expensive for the start of the season. Making me want to have a stong starting xi and goalkeeper and the rest cheapest possible.

    Here's some of my reccommended players :
    Kompany (6m) hes at the heart of City's defence every game and will keep many clean sheets.
    Luiz (6.5m) He has proved he can score and being a regular for Chelsea shows he will keep clean sheets.
    Sessegneon (6.5m) Steve Bruce building the team around him surely he should bang in the points ?
    Downing (8.5) Hes going to be a regular starter on Liverpool's wing and has a great cross to supply Andy Carroll with
    Andy Carroll (10m) Capable of getting goals by himself and with Downings cross should supply him also.
    Drogba (10.5) Himself and Chelsea have a great start to the season up to GW5 anyway .
    Given (5m) Aston Villa's new goalkeeper should get plenty of points for saves.

    Anybody got some for me ?

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    1. dz1984
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Tchoyi (West Brom) played 800 minutes last season, got 6 goals and one assist.

      Strong possibility of him playing up front this season.

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    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Downing and Carroll are questionable choices.

      Try Sinclair, Ba, Suarez, Silva.

      I like your other list though. I have Sessegnon, Kompany, Drogba and Given atm.

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    3. TO
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Tchoyi could start playing as a striker
      Riise could get you couple of assist, already got his first assist in the pre-season games
      Bent has good fixtures and back on pens

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      1. TO
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Tchoyi also scores goals when playing as a MF

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  15. Zep
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    Hart DeGea
    Baines Vidic Kompany A.Cole G.Johnson
    Fabregas Lampard Silva Gerrard VDV
    Rooney RVP Suarez

    I know, I know what your gonna say, but I’ve got it covered…

    If Fabregas does leave I’ll just downgrade to Nasri

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    1. dz1984
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      4.2

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    2. arsenalrock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      That's under the salary cap..

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    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Your gonna crush everybody

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      1. Zep
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I know right 😀

        I seen a few people complaining about only having 99m to spend...

        Well I think I know where it went cos my budget is 138m haha 😀

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    4. MY DJ NAME IS PIMP CURRY
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      dream team. about 20m out of budget, though.

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  16. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    See Luiz on alot of RMTs
    Alex and Ivan sure to take starts away.
    If Im paying for a CHE defender I want him to be locked in.

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  17. Robert Jarni
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Guys

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  18. Someoneleet
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    It is probably perfect but...

    Hart
    Luiz Richards Clichy
    Wilshere Bale Dempsey Ramires
    Holt Suarez (c) Drogba

    Al-Habsi Huth Simpson Tiote

    ... just in case you had an opinion 🙂

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Luiz dont get it

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Looks to me like it's breaking the bank, but I suppose it isn't. Thought about tripling up on CHE/MC myself, it could be an early season winner.No faith of Drogs though, and Ramires is pricey for what he gives you.

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  19. G0SS
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Liverpool fans....Will Kelly be a regular this season???

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    1. Cormac Anderson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I expect him to be on the bench but not a starter .

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think so. We'll probably bring in a lb and GJ will play rb. I think he'll be cover for rb/cb. If noone comes in than he could be worth a look.

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  20. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Given, Kenny

    Kompany, Hughes, Bramble, Alcaraz, Simpson

    Silva, Sessegnon, Sinclair, Ben Arfa, Buzsaky

    Drogba, RVP, Rooney

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    1. Hanso Lo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      That is a top-heavy team hey...You gotta worry about Drogba but it seems as though you've picked according to the fixtures...I bet with an idea to arrange them all when some clear performers stand out...if that is your tactic then I think it's ok. Bramble also seems a bit iffy for me...so too B-A and Buz...but you gotta pick them for that strike force I guess...

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      1. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Bramble has been mentioned a couple of times on this page. Is he Bruce's no.1 choice at CB? If so a real bargain!

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        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          He'll start for Sunderland, and he's a decent bonus magnet. Just watch out for the odd own goal though...

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            How do you know he'll be a bonus magnet given the new format? Does he do well in those EA stat thingys?

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            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              From what I know, the main CBs in teams usually score well in this regard from headed clearances and what not. Bramble is very much Sunderland's main centre back, so he should do well. In any case, 4.5 for a Sunderland starting player is a snip anyway.

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              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                Ok cool. One to keep an eye on then at the price although i do already have Westwood penciled in

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      2. Camzy
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Ben Arfa could be ditched for Hoolahan depending on pre-season. Buzsaky looks a good deal at present with the Taarabt situation. If not, I'll find another 4.5 midfielder.

        Drogba is a bit of a worry, but I can switch him for Bent for the start, with the aim of getting Suarez eventually.

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        1. Kingston
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Really not getting the Buzsaky love. 0 goals 0 assists last season and has suffered with injuries the last few seasons

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          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            He'll start if fit, and he takes free kicks. If he doesn't play, it's not a big deal to have 4.5 sitting on the sidelines. If a better player emerges, he'll be replaced.

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            1. Kingston
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              He'll start if fit? Last season he made 9 starts and 10 sub appearances

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              1. Camzy
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                • 15 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                Alright, who else do you suggest at 4.5? I want a mid at that price.

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                1. Kingston
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 4 months ago

                  That is the problem. Nobody attracts my interest at that price. I've None of my mf's are less than 6. That creates it's own problem ofcourse by reducing my budget elsewhere but i'd rather have that than a dead midfield spot

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                  1. Kingston
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 4 months ago

                    At that price i'd have to go for Tiote. Hardly fantasy gold but atleast he'll play if called upon

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    2. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      3 big strikers, im thinking along the same lines. But looking at the fixtures, i think you've got the wrong ones. Bent has a great start and is on pens. I would rather have him over Rooney to start with. Also, i would rather have a City striker and Malouda over Drogba and Silva.

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      1. Hanso Lo
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I think sometimes we forget when we call players fixture proof it means exactly that...Rooney will score no matter what...So on that basis alone I don't think he is a bad pick. Utd are clicking in pre-season and i can see them making a charge early on for the title...which again puts the Roonmeister in charge...but his deeper role must be a concern though hey? Or not...

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I agree he is a good pick. I want him eventually aswell, but Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea in the first 6 games!? I know some players are fixture proof but come on, that is tough!

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      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I guess that's the big question.

        20m for two forward positions.

        Drogba and Silva at the moment, could be changed for Lampard and Yaya on a whim, or Malouda. I don't like Malouda this season though. I don't think any system AVB uses will favor him.

        Bent is a decent shout. He's just so unexciting, and I worry about Villa going forward after losing Downing and Young. McLeish is also not known for being very attacking...

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    3. Tight Arsene
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      like

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    4. Lucky_2010
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      hi camzy, nice team setup with a lot differential ...... how do think on this arrangement;

      given,ruddy

      cahill,acole,o'shea,simpson,wilkinson

      kuyt,bale,yaya,wilshere,henry

      rooney,hoilett,bent

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  21. 5678
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think if anyone's noticed but you can drag and drop pitch/bench players. pretty nice.

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      1. Romford Pele - Don't w…
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        nice addition i thought

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Silly, imo. Who cares, drag-and-drop?

          Bells and whistles for the pad and phone brigade. Doesn't add or simplify things at all. Probably the entire reason for the delay in opening the site.* Boo

          *not the reason at all.

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          1. HST
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            So negative, are you the new RBJ?

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Didn't notice that. Thanks.

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      3. jerryfreak
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        They need to figure out a workaround for touchscreen mobile devices because as far as I can tell, there is no way to switch up your bench.

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    • Qubit
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Right my latest thinking:

      Given, Ruddy
      A.Cole, Kompany, D.Simpson, Foley, Orr
      Silva, Albrighton, Sessegnon, O'Hara, Moses
      RVP, Zamora, Suarez.

      Might not look all that, but im actually quite happy with it. Still a few question marks over some players.

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      1. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I have very similar to you. But with Luiz instead of A Cole its allowed me to have Malouda as well as Silva. I also prefer Sinclair to O'Hara. Look at his stats from last year, he'll have to be a threat even in this more challenging league.

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    • Romford Pele - Don't w…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      this year is hard.

      usually i at least see an RMT that looks good but as of yet - nothing.

      I'm struggling!

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      1. Zep
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        That's cos you haven't seen mine yet...

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    • Cormac Anderson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Something telling me to leave Bale out ?

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      1. Dave Bauer
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Perhaps that he doesn't do anything in 8 out of every 10 games...

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        1. Lucky_2010
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          lol, not sure ??

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    • The Dude
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      RMT

      Al Habsi, Given
      Kelly, Kompany, Briggs, (Orr, Simpson)
      Ohara, Albrighton, NZogbia, Silva, (Shane Ferguson)
      Rooney, Suarez, RVP

      Last Midfield player will be third on bench every game

      If Kelly looks like being in first 11 every game I intend on playing him and Kompany every game and rotating three 4.0 defenders for the last spot. Briggs in there at the moment but this may change.

      Thoughts?

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      1. Kingston
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        You could possibly have 3 players who hardly ever play. Too risky imo

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        1. The Dude
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Shane Ferguson will never play and rot on my bench. If I pick three 4.0 defenders that will play evrry game (this might mean changin Simpson and/or Briggs) and rotate them (providing Kelly looks set to play RB every game which we should no come start of season) this could work IMO.

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          1. Kingston
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            On the plus side you have 4 good captaincy options. I certainly can't say the same!

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      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I like it. Risky and top heavy.

        Briggs is too risky, and I don't like having a player like Ferguson who won't play a minute. Get a cheap as chips player, but at least have him start matches. Tiote or Buzsaky or someone like that.

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    • Dan
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      How much do you think Foster will be if the move goes through?

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        £5.5m I would say, can't see him being cheaper.

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        1. Dan
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          As if, 5.5 for an Albion keeper.

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            4.5
            Dan talk to me about shorey, starter?

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          2. Frazek
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            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            One of the star GK performers in last season FPL, I'd say that's more relevant than the team he'll be playing for.

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            1. Dave Bauer
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              5.5 is definitely too much for a West Brom keeper.

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        2. Lucky_2010
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          hello frazek, probably he's 5.0 - 5.5 ???

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      2. Hanso Lo
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I'm hoping 5 only cause he'll be playing with WB but I can see him being 5.5 even.

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      3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        £5m i reckon. Robinson is priced up likewise

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        1. Dan
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Annoying, want to go with the AVL/WBA keeper combo but with Foster at 5.0 plus I won't.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Can't see him being £4.5 no matter where he goes

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            1. Lucky_2010
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              +1 agree SD, since last season he's tip top form even though brum been relegated lol

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    • arsenalrock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks, anyone else just need some more thoughts:

      A. Ba and VDV
      B. Suarez and Albrighton

      If Suarez misses the first game or two, should I definitely do A?

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      1. Lucky_2010
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        go for carroll or kuyt should be ok just my thought ....

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    • Cormac Anderson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Etherington or Walters or any other 6.5 midfielder for that matter

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Neither of those. I'd pitch for Barton, O'Hara, Murphy... all £6m, and spend the £0.5m elsewhere.

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    • Louis Van Balls
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone else think that the new BP system for FPL is a bit over the top...

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        We will see. So many complaints about the last system i think it's only fair to give this one a chance... then we can all start moaning

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