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The FPL Bonus Points – Moving the Goalposts?

While the Fantasy Premier League player list is taking up the bulk of our time, sapping our energies and thinking – some will no doubt have noticed that Wednesday’s launch also brought several rule changes. One such tweak involved the allocation of Bonus Points. The “man in the stand” from the Press Association is no longer the “judge and jury” behind these points – from this season the FPL have gone back to a method driven by an Index, fuelled by statistics that measure player actions and team performance.

The EA SPORTS Player Performance Index (EA SPORTS PPI) will now be the recipient of our post-match wrath – although given that cold hard statistics will be behind it, it’s going to be more difficult to justify the bile.

Such a change inevitably poses some questions but for us at Fantasy Football Scout, it also gives us the opportunity to offer a new feature to offer Members a helping hand.

What is the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index?

The Premier League site offers a full explanation of this right here so we won’t go into too much detail. Effectively the index uses an algorithm to provide a single value which offers an appraisal of a player’s performance in a Premier League match. That algorithm takes into account a variety of statistics gathered from a match reflecting player actions on the pitch such as – shots, clearances, saves etc. Goals scored, assists and clean sheets are perhaps the biggest factors in the calculation of the index score but crucially, the outcome of the match is also very significant. A player in the winning team is far more likely to register a high EA SPORTS PPI score than a player on the losing side.

What does this mean for the Fantasy Premier League Bonus Points?

It’s hard to say. While we are likely to have more visibility on the factors that affect the award of the Bonus Points, it’s still very difficult to predict which players will benefit next season. The fact that winning performances are crucial suggests that players amongst the top sides will be far more likely to earn big totals of Bonus Points than those turning out for struggling sides. To put this into perspective, Charlie Adam had the highest Bonus Point total in the Fantasy Premier League game last season. However, he ranked just 20th overall in the EA SPORTS PPI.

It’s also notable that, out of the top 25 EA SPORTS PPI ranked players last season, 10 of them were Man United or Chelsea players, 3 were at Man City, 2 at Liverpool and 1 at Arsenal. Charlie Adam was the only player from a relegated club in the top 30. Scott Parker – the player of the year last season – was not in the top 10 midfielders and was ranked 70th overall.

The jury is very much out on the effectiveness of the EA SPORTS PPI then but we can only really speculate on how it will distribute the FPL Bonus Points until the season is underway. One thing we’re pretty sure on – we noticed last season that goalscorers were big beneficiaries of Bonus Point awards – our guess is that this will continue with the implementation of the EA SPORTS PPI. Goalscorers on winning sides are set for regular gains then. Is that any different to the old PA Sports method? Only time will tell.

How can Fantasy Football Scout help?

At least now we know that the statistics available to our Members have a definite impact on a player’s likelihood of earning FPL Bonus Points. Our Members already have access to the statistics that contribute to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data. By interrogating last season’s data now, you can already get a view on the top performers across the statistics that matter. We will be publishing members articles to aid this process too.

As you no doubt will have heard, Fantasy Football Scout are also contributing articles to the FPL this season. “The Scout” will examine the Bonus Point allocation each gameweek and attempt to breakdown the factors behind the awards using the EA SPORTS PPI data.

We’re going to provide something new however. Something a little extra…

The Scout ICT Index – Influence, Creativity and Threat

We have a new way for Members to read and analyse statistics this season. We’ve built our own Fantasy Football Index – the Scout “ICT” Index. This measures the performance of Premier League players in three key areas – Influence, Creativity and Threat. The first of those, a player’s Influence, will use similar performance indicators to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data, although our algorithm will be different.

Our index score for Influence won’t take the results into consideration and will therefore offer a level playing field to those players who suffer defeat in a match. In this way our Index will hopefully be effective at finding influential players within struggling clubs, but should still offer our Members a view on which players are more likely to score highly in the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore be in line for Bonus Points. While the FPL Bonus Points arriving “the morning after matches” – our members can get access to our ICT index once we update our data – often just 10-20 minutes after the final whistle has blown.

In basic terms the ICT index will help to make our Opta data more digestible. It will offer one single index score for Influence, one for Creativity and one for Threat. These will help to measure a player’s importance to their team and to a match, a player’s likelihood to earn assists and to score goals, or at least get in goalscoring situations. Those three figures will then be combined to create a single ICT Index score to measure a player’s overall performance contribution from a Fantasy perspective.

Index scores will be generated on a gameweek basis and cumulatively over the season. The full Opta data will still be available of course, but Members will now have an easy route to identify how players are performing across the key statistics.

The index, like any football index, will be far from perfect. There will be tweaks along the way. Plenty of discussions as we go. Even so, the ICT Index is already providing us with plenty of talking points and insight behind the scenes and we think it’s going to be a valuable addition for our Members. It will also give us plenty of material to discuss in a series of new Members articles.

We currently have the ICT Index in test and will be creating new tables and new sidebar widgets that will give Members quick access to the top performers on our Index on a gameweek basis and over the season as a whole. These widgets will also form the basis of our new dashboard available to Members when they log into the Members area.

Keep ‘em peeled for more news on this in the next few weeks.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

2,654 Comments Post a Comment
  1. The Dude
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Who is the best option at £4.5 midfielder to fill my last spot?

    Opinions place, Thanks

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Hmmm, I'm torn between N Dyer / B Johnson ... I don't think there's any great options though

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Honestly they all suck. If you can find someone who is guaranteed to play and not a DM thats a start. I cant find actually i would actually want under 6.0 and no one i would consistently want to start under 6.5! Mids seems to be very expensive this season.

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        I cant actually find anyone i want*

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  2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Fpl season I think the prices are extortionate. Albrigton 6.5 Hunt 6.0. Albrighton only played well for half the season Hunt was injured for most of it. Based on the fixtures and limited choices I think most peoples teams on this site are going to be fairly similar.Unless some shrewdies know something and are saying nothing about "the bargains"

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      I cant find a single midfield bargin. Ben Arfa was the only near bargain imo and now hes injured. The mids i though would be 5ish are all 6-6.5 million. Its hard work!

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  3. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Apart fron Simpson, which £4m defenders are likely to be regular starters. Thanks.

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      QPR defenders and Norwich ones wild rover

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks but they won't all start! Got any names? 🙂

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Wilkinson for stoke possibly?

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  4. HST
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Can't keep up...pages too fast...Rmt's too many...Tell my wife I love her...I can see a light.......

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    1. Milkman
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Ha. Brilliant.

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    2. G0SS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Thats's not a light. It's another RMT!!! Stay away.

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      1. HST
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        "dogs f*cked the pope, no fault of mine"

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      2. TO
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        🙂 lol

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  5. thegreathoudini
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    RMT

    Given, Kenny
    Vidic Ivanovic Shawcross Kompany Brown
    Barton Y Toure Nani Wilshire N'zogbia
    Rooney Brunt Ranger

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Worst attack I've seen for a RMT given that Ranger is cack and Brunt isn't a striker

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      1. thegreathoudini
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        My bad, I meant Holt. And yes im fully aware of how cack Ranger is.

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah for me this game is going to be about the attackers, not the defenders - i'd lose some money in defence and get your Ranger to at least a Zamora

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          1. thegreathoudini
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            Thank you for your advice
            Vidic - Rafael
            Ranger - Zamora

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  6. gooner dave
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Be interesting to see how the bonus points "system" is going to work out. Can't say i'm a big fan, like many i assume, of them being awarded the morning after the games.

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah gooner dave don't like them myself impossible to predict amybe this new system night be fairer

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Yep, I won't know the bp's until I get home from work the next day!

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  7. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    To all the RMT people who list their whole teams do three things:
    1 Click reset
    2 Click Auto-complete
    3 Click Confirm

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      I tried that and got a team that is arguably better than the one I've picked. Computers 1 - people 0, again.

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    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      That's not a bad suggestion actually. Based upon the fact that about 80% of people after about the first weeks will realise they have made a massive Vallejo of there team and wil wildcard. Let's face it (and this especially applies to newly promoted players) you just have no idea how they will play of any given season. Take ebanks blake last season, he was in everyone's team until we reloads he could hit a cows arse with a banjo.

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      1. Tommyg
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        I truly hate the auto correct on my stupid I phone.

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  8. jamez
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    my team whats you guys honest opinion ..

    given kenny

    kompany alcaraz huth carrragher orr

    albrington sinclair malouda van der vaart gamst pederson

    carroll holt zamora

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    1. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Jamez, it's better than the one you posted earlier .. I'd be tempted to upgrade Malouda to Lampard and downgrade MGP but that's just me ... I think Bent may be better than Carroll at 10m

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      1. jamez
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        eh sorry not that good with names lol whos MGP and thanks .. what would u give it out of ten . cheers

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          Gamst Pedersen ... probs a 7-8/10 from me but ratings are irrelevant as they're subjective

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          1. jamez
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            would you think ethrington is a good replacement ??

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            1. heco87
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 10 months ago

              I don't like his opening fixtures .. i'll probably have him in my team at some point though

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              1. jamez
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 10 months ago

                ok cheers and does albrington start reguarly for villaa

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Also, Skrtel got a lot more points than Carragher last season in defence as he can score a goal .. and he's the same price

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    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      million times better.

      You've got room to move about with that team as well...over first few weeks you can switch Carroll to Bent, maybe Zamora to Odem and Van der Vaart or Malouda to say Silva...or wherever the pts are.

      you will want to change and that there team gives you a chance to do it.

      Only Carragher is a question mark for me....I'm sure there are better for his price. But its a very small criticism.

      9/10

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  9. Yayo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    RMT

    Given

    Rafael Kompany A.Cole

    Walcott Brunt Duff Jarvis Etherington

    Drogba Rooney

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    1. pedro10000000
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      8/10

      Not strong enough midfield besides that very good

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  10. Omar Little
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Any good team names about?

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    1. jamez
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      the omarations lol im not very creative lol could u go up to my team and give your opinion of it . cheers

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Krul Runnings over here

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    3. The Artist
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Pantsil & Grella ultimately won out for me.

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  11. Drafting Away
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    yo has swansea signed a replacement goalie? if not, anyone considering Ma-kalambay as their 4.0 goalie?

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    1. Alex
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Makalamby's been released from us mate. We've signed ex-Benfica goalie Jose Moreira, who will be cheap on here I presume. But then we're also after Lee Camp and Dave Stockdale.

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      1. Drafting Away
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        sweet thnx

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      They've aiming to sign Stockdale from Fulham.

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      1. Alex
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        and Lee Camp from Forest

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  12. Only one Di Matteo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Has anyone else started with Baines in their team. I think with the inflated priced he now represents very good value, especially if on penalties. He scored 6 times and assissted 11 times, I would expect him to at least match that and probably improve, as he continues to improve as a player.
    The midfielders you could buy for 8.0 probably can't match Baines' goals and assists but Baines can also get cleanies, so with the inflated prices imo Baines represents outstanding value for money. Thoughts?

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Im skeptical as to whether he can match last seasons assists and goals.

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    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Isn't worth 8m imo

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    3. gooner dave
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      not sold on getting him in yet. Understand with what your saying, however like to see him a bit cheaper myself.

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    4. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      If Everton weren't slow starters always and if that doesn't mean I have to give up on Cashley.

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      1. Only one Di Matteo
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        I have got both cashley and Baines in my team 😀 I know that everton ate often slow starters but their fixtures are very tempting

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    5. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      When was the last time everton started a season well?

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Anyone actually know the answer to this?

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          The answer to that question is worth A LOT of money to them...

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            Really? I didn't ask why, just when!!!

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            1. Zep
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 10 months ago

              Oh someone has sand in their vagina 😉

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          The year they got into Europe 5, 6 seasons ago ...

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah good one. Try reading properly next time

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 10 months ago

              oops, that was for vagina boy above, not you mate.

              Cheers for the info. Seems a long time ago now.

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              1. Zep
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 10 months ago

                I read your post just fine...

                You don't have to be a dick about it...

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                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 10 months ago

                  Oh my days, you have problems my friend. I suggest you go a reread the thread. That or just don't reply to my comments. You get boring very quickly.

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                  1. Zep
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 10 months ago

                    Listen, I know you asked 'when', but seeing as this is usually a place for some interesting discussions, I figured I would be able to widen the parameters of the question to 'why' this is without you growling back at me...

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    6. Duckbill
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      With the prices they are you going to be replying on baines to make up the points yoou going to lose from say getting a 5m midfielder rather than a 6m as currently not many below 6m worth having.

      I rather have a 7m defender and a 6m midfielder.

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      1. Only one Di Matteo
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        imo I don't have any weak midfielders as a result of having Baines and cashley

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        1. Duckbill
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          i would like to see your team with acole and baines. You surely going to be restricted in who you can buy.

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          1. Only one Di Matteo
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            Given Kenny
            Baines Cashley Kompany Brown Simpson
            Yaya Nzog Sessegnon Sinclair Ben Arfa
            RVP Suarez Holt

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            1. Duckbill
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 10 months ago

              simillar to what i,m got right now expect i using that extra 1,5m to possibly get silva rather than yaya. seems mancini looking for another midfielder to take the burden off yaya.

              You going to be restricted in who you get for yaya if he gets injured or rotated.

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    7. The Artist
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      a few have made the point on here that in the early stages it's all about building team value, which is done not by picking someone who CAN'T go up much in price (and really, how much over 8.0 can any defender be in FPL?), but by finding the gems who produce for mid-price. those bandwagons will run and run, helping you be in a better position to spend the second half of the season with an advantage over others b/c you've got 3-4 mil more than them to work with.

      so i'm avoiding baines.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        I find that the best scoring players help you build the most value.

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  13. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Glen Johnson, Martin Skrtel and Fabio Aurelio also missed the tour through injury, while Pepe Reina (hernia) and Steven Gerrard (groin) are still returning to 100 per cent fitness after operations.

    Donni bargain?

    And how come Aurelio is injured? What were the odds? Is he Woodgate cousin or? 😆 😆 😆

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      OK I'll be the only one with 4.5 Liv goalkeeper before I wild card

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      1. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        As I understand it, Reina is still on track to be ready for the new season. Another wait and see...

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  14. Alex
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Bit of a dilemma guys:

    Do you think I can get a better midfield pairing than Malouda (10.5) + Albrighton (6.5) = (17.0)?

    Also contemplating going 3-4-3 because IMO defenders will score fewer FL points than midfielders/forwards. Am I right in thinking this?

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    1. Alex
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers!

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  15. Drafting Away
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Any thoughts?

    Given (Ma-Kalambay)

    A.Cole Kompany Rafael Kelly (Simpson)

    Lampard Nzogbia O'Hara (Sinclair) (Ferguson)

    V.Persie Suarez Holt

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  16. Verbal
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Hi Mark & other Scout contributors,

    Do you intend to make an App (both for Android and Apple)? And do you know whether the FPL will too?

    There is a distinct lack of any decent football (although plenty of below par Soccer) apps out there.

    I think it would be welcome addition to the FFS service.

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    1. gooner dave
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      an often asked question, from myself. Think its fair to say mark would like to do one for FFS, or a mobile version of site (asked him previously by email) as far as FPL goes, who knows?

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  17. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    What's the news on Suarez? Apparently he won't play the first few games due to the Copa America, is this true?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Finished this weekend, i thik this is just a rumor.

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    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      No one knows really. I think he'll play.

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  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    AP - you lurking? 🙂

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      He's spending time with Marcel Marceaux

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        LOL.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          Or, you could try putting on your ruby slippers, clicking the heels three times saying, 'there's no place like FFS.'

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  19. Cormac Anderson
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Dean Whitehead as a 5m midfielder ?

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Your posts are awesome...

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    2. gooner dave
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      did that the season before last. Not to be recommended.

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  20. reply fail
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Any interesting forward for 5,5?

    Demebele, Ameobi, Johnson A, promoted teams?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Graham

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  21. Beans on Toast
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    A) Baines and Bale(8.0m mid)

    or

    B) Gibbs(5.5m def) and VDV

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      B all the way.

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      C) Baines and anyone who isn't Bale for 8m or less?

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      1. Beans on Toast
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Whos the best for under 8 then?

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        1. Beans on Toast
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          Already have HBA, Sessegnon, Albrighton, N'Zogbia

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          1. Zep
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            If you don't already have Citeh attacking coverage then maybe Yaya...

            Also, if Jol is good on his word about a more attacking Fulham then you could consider Murphy or Duff...

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      2. SkyByBo
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Baines and zogbia

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      3. Only one Di Matteo
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Baines and Yaya for me

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      4. DublinDude
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Anyone but the 2011/2012 Premier leagues greatest player??

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  22. mikeywoodward
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    ok lads so after abit of advice on here a few changes what do people think

    Given (krul)
    Kompany, Cole, Riise (oshea, Caulker)
    Silva, Nzogbia, Moses, Albrighton (Thomas WBA)
    RVP, Ba, Suarez

    Opinions please

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  23. HST
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Cold beer on a sunny afternoon, who's arsed with RMT's.

    "Call on God, but row away from the rocks."

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, we should have an RMT strike. Jimmy Knapp about?

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      1. HST
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        Great footballing debate on here before the game launch, now it's mostly generic drivel.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          You'll soon be too drunk to notice, in the company of Sleezy, Sleepy, Dopey, Happy, Doc and Bashful, splayed over a Chesterfield.

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          1. HST
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            Fair point, splayed is not something I will be tonight or ever though for the record.

            And I'm too tall to be a dwarf.

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            1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 10 months ago

              Escapade is the place you need to go in Chesterfield if you want to see splaying, although there is a new lapdance club come to think of it!

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              1. HST
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 10 months ago

                I was talking about a chesterfield leather sofa.

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  24. The Artist
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    ok. here's the team as of 11:20 friday night, shanghai time:

    kenny (given)
    staylor/shittu/kompany (bards/rj)
    duff/lamps/vdv/yaya (sinclair)
    holt/zamora/torres

    thoughts? weaknesses, apart from no arsenal/manu cover?

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    1. SkyByBo
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      Torres and Lamps seems like overkill. Id downgrade one or the other and improve elsewhere.

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    2. HST
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      There's 3 weeks to go, transfers, injuries and a whole pre season to go.

      Not singling you out, this is to all th RMTers.

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      1. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        I completely agree with you, and most teams will be quite different come the new season.

        Nevertheless, running your eye over one or two RMTs (and looking at your own team) isn't bad prep - and playing with your team can be a fun way to pass the odd half an hour.

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        1. HST
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          12 years, 10 months ago

          I agree I'm in the same boat but throwing out a RMT with every new version of your 15 is painful, and is basically rendering the site unusable for Fpl and Footy chatter.

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          1. Frazek
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            • 13 Years
            12 years, 10 months ago

            There is so much transfer/injury action to come that nothing can be set in stone but this deluge was inevitable given the delayed launch. I find myself skipping the RMTs anyway, searching out oases of other content. It's a lonely road.

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      2. Duckbill
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        +1

        i have a rough idea who i,m having just waiting for the likes of chelsea, arsenal and man city to finalize who they buying and more importantly the starting 11.

        So long i bloody avoid all the risky bandwagons i,ll be ok.

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      3. The Artist
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        fair play, hst.

        can't think of too much else to do with this space....not much happening in the world of football atm apart from fpl having just opened its doors.

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        1. HST
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          12 years, 10 months ago

          I think you have too much invested in Lamps and Torres.

          Also Vdv won't be worth his 10 until he has some kind of fixtures in his favour.

          Drop Vdv and Torres and spread the spare cash around, look for penalty takers, guaranteed starters and nice fixtures, don't listen to too many other RMT's.

          Who's gonna start, who are they facing, what position are they playing and do they have any set pieces is how you should approach things.

          You always have transfers and a wildcard to get on the success stories, start solid with established players.

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    3. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      I actually quite like it. It's a little different to see a team loading on midfield. Personally, though, I'd look to upgrade shittu.

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  25. Milkman
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    12 years, 10 months ago

    It is funny some selections though, eh?! I mentioned Charlie Adam earlier.

    What about the 88 teams that have forked out £5m for Obertan? Why would you?

    I know some players are casual but surely that's reasonably obvious he's not a nailed on player?

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  26. Scroobius Mac
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    12 years, 10 months ago

    So 'Arry's said that Modric is worth a lot more than 35 million. Even as a Spurs supporter I'd say 35 mil for a player who doesn't want to be there is a pretty good deal.

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    1. gooner dave
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      aye the sooner he goes to chelsea the better for my FPL team.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        It makes Krancar quite appealing once Spurs fixtures ease up. Plus I think Modric will make Torres better as well.

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        1. gooner dave
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          12 years, 10 months ago

          If he goes to chelsea 8.0mill is a bargain. Dempsey cost's 8.5, and yaya's also down for 8.0, just to put it into perspective.

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          1. Scroobius Mac
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            12 years, 10 months ago

            But he wasn't a fantasy god at Spurs either, do you think he will get more goals and assists at Chelsea? Interesting to note the new BP system does not favour him.

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            1. gooner dave
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              12 years, 10 months ago

              different set up, maybe. Nothings garanteed thats for sure. However at that price.... thats a punt i'd take no problem.

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    2. HST
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      Managers trying to keep players against their will baffles me, cash in, play the game and maximise your return from the transfer, which is what Ibthink Arry and Levy are doing.

      Wenger trying to hold onto Fab is desperate now, they are like a couple that know it's over but the one who wants out cares about the other too much to man upnand leave incase they try and top themselves.

      Modric is worth exactly 35 million all factors considered.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah agreed. You've got to be a realist at the end of the day its business. 22 m was stupid, 27 m maybe if other fees recently (Henderson, Torres, Carrol) had been more reasonable but in todays market 35 m is about right.

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    3. halnone
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      12 years, 10 months ago

      Modric is not worth 35mil.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 10 months ago

        +1

        I think he was underrated for so long he is now overrated!

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        1. andy85wsm
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 10 months ago

          I'm not sure he's now overrated. I just think the current transfer prices are massively inflated. Chelsea did themselves no favours paying £50m for Torres

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        2. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
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          12 years, 10 months ago

          He definitely seemed to have his best season last season, and he is exactly what Chelsea need, but I still think £35m is too much. Still, I guess a player is worth whatever someone's prepared to pay for them.

          Those Carroll and Torres transfers set quite a precedent.

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      2. Scroobius Mac
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        Depends how you decide what players are worth really. I think he's worth 35 m to Chelsea in this transfer environment.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          12 years, 10 months ago

          This is true.

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      3. HST
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        12 years, 10 months ago

        Run me through that statement.

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  27. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    12 years, 10 months ago

    😯 Contador's cantering up the Col!!!

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  28. dz1984
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    12 years, 10 months ago

    Would appreciate some thoughts on my team 🙂

    Schwarzer/Given
    Jagielka/Kompany/Samba/Simpson/Orr
    Tchoyi/Adam/Malouda/N'Zogbia
    Zamora/Carroll/Drogba

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  29. arsenalrock
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    12 years, 10 months ago

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/22/nufc-star-hatem-ben-arfa-eyes-early-return-72703-29100872/

    Ben Arfa could be back for opening day clash. Anyone gonna take the punt?

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    1. yeates45
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      He would be on bench for GW1 but a bargin at 5.5m... Although Barton is 6m and takes set pieces...

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  30. Phillips
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 10 months ago

    Might as well add my attempt. Really not sure about most of this team, but it's only the first draft. Also a couple of gambles on starts with De Gea, Graham and Malouda.

    De Gea, De Vries
    Kompany, Samba, Brown, Simpson, Gorkss
    Malouda, Nasri, Albrighton, Barton, Sinclair
    RVP, Suarez, Graham

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    1. iCon
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 10 months ago

      Nice balance between each class of player....gives you good options if changes needed

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