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It’d be fair to say that when the pre-season player lists were revealed last July, Stewart Downing was far from our thoughts as a viable Fantasy option. A goal and two assists over 2,507 minutes in 2013/14 highlights his lack of impact in a West Ham outfit that scored just 40 times over the entire campaign, and despite reports suggesting Sam Allardyce’s side were set to go on the attack this time around, we were anything but convinced.

After five Gameweeks, though, the Hammers are starting to deliver. A 3-1 win over Liverpool means they have now scored nine times so far – averaging of 1.8 goals per match compared to last year’s 1.05 – and, from a Fantasy perspective at least, Downing has been the player to benefit most. A total of 27 points is just six off the top of the midfield standings in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game and sees the 5.5-priced Downing sandwiched in between Aaron Ramsey and Eden Hazard, on 28 and 25 points respectively.

With a goal, two assists and six bonus points accrued, Downing’s prospects could be boosted further by a switch in formation which afforded him the role in β€œthe hole” behind Enner Valencia last weekend.

In our next members article of the week, we turn to the Key Performance Indicators (KPI) tables in order to assess the 2%-owned Downing’s displays in comparison to the season gone by.

For those who aren’t familiar with them, KPI tables are designed to use a series of key stats to allow our members to track form or changes in player performance. By tracking the frequency of certain key statistics and comparing them over two separate periods of time, we can ascertain whether a player’s form has improved or declined. As mentioned in last summer’s introductory article, we’ve rolled out a preview movie which shows just how to get the best out of the KPI tables.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      πŸ˜†

    2. Epic Fail
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      πŸ˜€

    3. Proggy
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      2sp00ky

    4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      πŸ˜†

    5. the axolotl
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      πŸ™‚

    6. DaveZubie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      You're looking slimmer this year Demi

  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    3-2 berhaino

    1. Davido989
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      £700 fella.. OUCH.

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        πŸ™

    2. Back on the horse
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      ooo maybe I should keep him...

  2. Epic Fail
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    Did MattJenkins cash out? 😯

    1. applebonkers
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      it's funny how often this happens when people premature celebrate bets

  3. Proggy
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    When will O'Shea drop in price?.

  4. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
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    Transfer thoughts for this week...
    A - Lamela to Tadic
    B - Lamela to Schneiderlin
    C - Lamela/Roon to ADM/Pelle (-4pts)

    Bego
    Baines/Cahill/Clyne
    Haz/Rambo/Siggy/LAMELA
    Costa/Naismith/ROONEY

  5. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Can someone tell me how I can find the clean sheet odds on Betfair? Total noob when it comes to betting websites.

    1. Sweetpea
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      Youll get them on Paddy power - clean sheet odds page

      1. Sweetpea
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        pp prices slighly worse than betfair of course

      2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        Thanks!

  6. NIGHTHIKER - I Kane, I Shaw…
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    Here's my team, got 2 FTs and don't want to waste one. £0.0 in the bank.

    Mannone (McCarthy)
    Rojo // Moreno // Clyne (Taylor, Hutton)
    Di Maria // Silva // Sterling // Siggurdsson (Boyd)
    Falcao // Costa // Welbeck

    Thinking either Rojo -> Mangala or Silva -> Ozil, any other thoughts?

    1. chrisjdgrady
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      mangala looks decent pick

  7. 7shadesofsmoke
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    After having a discussion with The Axolotl about ADM, I was wondering how much you guys base your FPL decisions on - data vs opinion?

    I think I would put myself at about 70% opinion (derived from watching a player or MotD) and 20% statistical data.

    The other 10% is trend following, with price rise/fall and mass ownership coverage contributing to my decisions.

    1. Epic Fail
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      Probably. Around 90% opinion for me. I can't remember the last time I looked at stats to make a decision.

    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      I am the exact opposite. I base most decisions on underlying stats.

      But I do think certain players are the statistical exception, i.e. Toure last year. Having watched Di Maria in the last two games, I just think he might be this season's statistical exception and therefore I have gotten him in.

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        Very interesting.

        Bet you went for bertrand over clyne then, eh?

        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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          Haven't gotten a Saints defender, but I would go for Bertrand yeah πŸ˜‰

    3. Wilshere Knowledge
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      99% opinion.

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        almost pure maverick. I like it.

      2. Demí
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        No membership for you anytime soon then πŸ˜‰

    4. applebonkers
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      95-5-0 probably

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        you never consider mass ownership?

        1. applebonkers
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          never. they may be scarier but it doesnt change how likely or unlikely a player is to score/assist

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
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            while i can't argue with you re: likeliness to score/assist, there is another factor in that - the level of risk/reward at stake.

            High ownership players become high risk high reward without and low risk, low reward with - regardless of their performance.

            Sometimes its worth having a player just to cock-block the competition (e.g. head to head rivalries)

            1. applebonkers
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              i like to sweat πŸ˜‰
              but seriously i made a conscious effort a couple of years ago to not look at other teams, just the points tallies on the league tables. one of many changes made to go back to an age of innocence and not worrying about other players

              1. 7shadesofsmoke
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                sounds like a nice place πŸ˜€

    5. RoysCallerAnne
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      I try and watch as much football as possible and take it from there. Not into stats.

    6. Valar(Keith)
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      Similar.. i try to watch every game to make a decision. it's the reason i dont want Pelle yet for eg. the stats flatter him but when you actually watch him you realise that the stats are very deceiving.

    7. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      80% opinion - 75% WilshereKnowledge's, 5% mine.

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        πŸ˜†

      2. Wilshere Knowledge
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        You must be doing badly then... πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€

        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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          Having a shocking season. And to think you were one of my favourite posters before 14/15 started... πŸ˜‰

          1. Wilshere Knowledge
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            πŸ˜€

    8. MJ6987
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      Maybe 33% each of those

    9. FPL Touches
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      80% opinion 15% Stats/fixture analysis 5% Triggerlips πŸ˜€

    10. A.T
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      95% opinion. I can count on one hand the amount of time I've looked at stats. I just find it boring and prefer to pick a team on my my own ideas rather than what stats might tell me. More fun surely!

    11. the axolotl
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      i like certain stats, like shots made. if i watch match of the day and see a nice goal, and think i might get that lad, then i read, that was his only shot, then i don't get him. which is my ADM issue right now. and it might cost me...

    12. SC not pearls before swine
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      I'd say I care more about stats, but I don't go crazy for the underlying ones, especially this early in the season. I prefer looking at long term FPL points and price. So Di Maria, I'm not crazy about, not so much because of his lack of touches in the box and shots (Although that is worrying) and more because he scored so few goals for Real Madrid.

    13. ianp1970
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      Statistics are like a bikini:

      Show you a lot but not everything.

  8. applebonkers
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    what an impact by varela. remember this gw the top scorer will begin with V

    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Vergini 😯

      1. FPL Touches
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        (C)

    2. Davido989
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      Vosta

      1. Konig Luther
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        πŸ˜€

    3. leo_messi
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      Van Persie for sure πŸ˜‰

    4. Konig Luther
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      Vardy again 😯

    5. Sadio
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      Venderson

  9. the axolotl
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    selling ramsey?
    spurs haven't kept a clean sheet vs arsenal in last 12 matches. traditionally this is a high scoring fixture. anyone captaining an arsenal player? ramsey even?

    1. Mull
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      Not with Costa about.

    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Keeping Rambo on the back of so many sales

      Costa (c) ADM (vc)

    3. RamaJama
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      Keeping

    4. FPL Touches
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      Can't really avoid Costa at home, seems the safer bet.

    5. chrisjdgrady
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      Keeping him this week, did a -4 for Welbeck. Might captain Welbz

      1. chrisjdgrady
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        Prob play it safe with Costa though

  10. Davido989
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    Spurs vs Brighton

    1. Mull
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      Do it all in one post

  11. Davido989
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    Stoke vs Saints

  12. usagooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Palace equalize in the 92nd!

    Kaikai goal

  13. Davido989
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    Bournemouth vs WBA

  14. Glasner Ball
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    GOAL - KAIKAI on his debut!!! go on son!

    1. applebonkers
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      what a name. hopefully he's more yaya than djemba djemba

      1. the axolotl
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        could be the new new lua lua

    2. LOCO ABREU
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      who?

      1. LOCO ABREU
        • 13 Years
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        palace player

  15. Glasner Ball
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    KaiKai has been ripping it up in the youth leagues, very promising.

    1. Demí
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      He's just too good for you(th).

      1. Glasner Ball
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        hehe indeed πŸ˜‰

        Extra time now, at least we playing with the reserve team, wouldnt want first team dragged through extra time with important game on saturday.

  16. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    United Rant @unitedrant · 32m
    Interesting stat for Rooney lovers/Carrick haters. 57.9% of Rooney’s passes this season have been backwards

    42% of Rooney's passes went backwards on Sunday. When deployed at no. 10, United’s main creator. Compared to 8% of Di Maria's

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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      I'll jump with joy the day that muppet is dropped for England.

  17. The Pink Panzer strikes aga…
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    Alms for the time poor? 2FT and 2.2m in the bank

    De Gea (Gilks)
    Clyne Moreno van Aanholt (Ferdinand Hutton)
    Siggie Silva Ramsey Eriksen (Albrighton)
    Welbeck Roon Diego

    Thanks!

    1. RamaJama
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      Eriksen to Fab or adm?

  18. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    League cup draw 4th round

    Spurs v Brighton
    Stoke v Southampton
    Bournemouth v West Brom
    Shrewsbury v Chelsea
    Liverpool v Swansea
    MK Dons v Sheff Utd
    Manchester City v Crystal Palace/Newcastle
    Fulham v Derby

    Ties to played week commencing 27 October

    1. Demí
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      Cheers Bemba la

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Chelsea with another tough draw then...

    3. MJ6987
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      Chelsea used to play Shrewsbury in the league in the late 80's

    4. Bouncebackability
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      • 16 Years
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      And the two tv games? The Chelsea one for sure, then either Liverpool/Swans or WBA Vs AFCB.

  19. Davido989
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    Shrewsbury vs Chelsea
    Liverpool vs Swansea
    MK Dons vs Sheffield Utd
    Man City vs Palace/Newcastle
    Fulham vs Derby

    1. The Bandit
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      Half a job and too late

      1. Epic Fail
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        πŸ˜€

      2. Davido989
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        Sounds like my bird

        1. The Bandit
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          Yeah, she told me πŸ˜‰

  20. boyler
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    if u haven't owned siggy all season would u still get him in ?

    1. Epic Fail
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      Probably.

    2. Whazza
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      I think so

    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I am in the same boat. Used my 2 FTs this week and neither were for him.

  21. applebonkers
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    full 120 for zaha

  22. GreenWindmill
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    Pfft, wish we'd lost in normal time now - instead we've got an extra half hour we could do without with the reward for a win being a complete humping at the Etihad. Lose-lose.

    1. Demí
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      Extra hour says my crystal ball. You end up winning 16-15 on pens

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        πŸ˜†

        My money's on getting beaten in extra time injury time.

    2. Mull
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      Luckily they're playing on Monday so they have a good amount of time to recover for the Stoke game.

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        True enough, you've snatched away my last excuse if/when Stoke embarrass us πŸ˜‰

  23. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
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    Bego
    Baines/Cahill/Clyne
    Haz/Rambo/Siggy/LAMELA
    Costa/Naismith/ROONEY

    Transfer thoughts for this week...
    A - Lamela to Tadic
    B - Lamela to Schneiderlin
    C - Lamela/Roon to ADM/Pelle (-4pts)

    1. Whazza
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      A or save FT

  24. seanie3
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    is lampard at 5.4 a good option as a 5th midfielder

    1. Whazza
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      No

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
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        This

    2. The Bandit
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      A midfield version of Kolarov. Occasional start but mostly coming on with five minutes left to keep your 15pts on the bench

      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Yeah but he'll get an assist once then you'll forget about those bench points and brag on here about being a maverick. πŸ˜€

    3. FPL Touches
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      When you consider that Ulloa is in the same price bracket...no.

    4. Konig Luther
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      for 5.5 you can have downing

    5. Sess!
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      Lol

  25. andres
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    What do you guys think about liverpool assests going forward?

    Fixtures are great but can they deliver?

    In particular I own moreno and balo... Tempted to keep but there are other alternatives and I have two FTs

    Thx

    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Sterling is enough for most

      1. andres
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        I know, I wouldnt buy them know but as I own them already is a different story

        1. Whazza
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          Yeah, I would get probably take Balo out unless you have other issues in your team. The boy looks disinterested. Now he will ofc score a brace πŸ˜€

  26. Walsh
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    Go on Palace. Easy draw for next round if we take care of Newc πŸ˜€

    1. Glasner Ball
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      Indeed. But need to go bed soon, so hoping we don't end up in a 14-13 style pen shootout like last night. eeeagles

  27. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    I will not moan about Chelsea and easy draws

    we got MK Dons - we lost 4-0

    1. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      If Chelsea lose 4-0 I will eat my own face.

      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
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        Bookmarked.

        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
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          is it even possible? i guess if you leave the mouth till last it kind of is

        2. Bouncebackability
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Safe bet πŸ™‚

      2. Godfather Bandit 42
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        There'll be no 'bouncing back' from that....

  28. Andy1
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    A. Duff
    B. Chambers

    My other defender are

    Terry, clyne, wisdom and pva

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
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      Can't you wait a week?

      1. Andy1
        • 16 Years
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        I have dier
        I could wait and just bench him?

        And play terry, pva and clyne

        1. MJ6987
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          What's up with Dier? Is he out of the team now?

          1. Andy1
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            No. Spurs are crap!

  29. PlayPercentage
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    What happened to Albrighton? Pick of the Leicester midfield before the season started.
    Not even on the bench last week.