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19 October 2014 4348 comments
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Sunday seeks to follow on from Saturday’s tidal wave of points, handing us a pair of Premier League fixtures at Loftus Road and the Britannia.

It all begins in West London, where Brendan Rodgers’ Liverpool pay visit to struggling QPR.

The Liverpool boss has reacted to recent stuttering form with a series of changes, recalling Glen Johnson and Jose Enrique as Alberto Moreno and Javier Manquillo drop out; the latter is eased onto the bench. Emre Can also earns a first league start in the engine room with Philippe Coutinho benched, while Mario Balotelli is recalled up front in place of Rickie Lambert; the refreshed Raheem Sterling starts, as expected.

Liverpool find a much-changed QPR side in opposition, as Harry Redknapp rolls the dice. It looks likely to be a 3-5-2 set-up from the R’s with Rio Ferdinand surprisingly dropping to the bench to allow Richard Dunne to earn a start. Yun Suk-Young appears to be lining up at left wing-back in his first league start, as Niko Kranjcar drops out of the midfield. Further forward, Bobby Zamora is preferred to Junior Hoilett. There’s also a change in goal for the home side: Rob Green laid low through illness so Alex McCarthy makes his R’s league debut.

The Shepherds Bush action is followed by a tea-time encounter in the Potteries, as Mark Hughes’ Stoke host Swansea. Fantasy managers will be keenly focused on the display of Gylfi Sigurdsson as he bids to regain his spot on top of the FPL midfield rankings.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Surgical Attack
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    I am not sure why I have bego, he doesn't even score these days..

    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Been very disappointed with his attacking returns so far this season

  2. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Well, if a player is hauled down in the box whilst the ball is in play it has to be a peno... obviously. Well done ref!

    1. TeamSteam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Absolutely the right decision.

    2. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      But bony had his arms on shawx just shawx didn't take the tumble.

      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Just no.

      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        You have Shawx in your team. Don't tell me you're arguments here aren't guided by this.

        1. Obi Wan Elokobi
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Not at all it's done and dusted now but shawx gets ridiculous hate stemming back to the Ramsey challenge.

          1. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 2 months ago

            Yes well that Shawx hate was unsavoury for what was IMO an accident.

            1. TeamSteam
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 2 months ago

              Doesnt matter if it was an accident. The amount of force he goes in with is a known issue and its been coming a long ways, IMO. Hes a dangerous player.

  3. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Great to see Shawcross finally punished for that crap though. He's been doing it for years.

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Skrtel as well

    2. dykeypunk
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Skrtel next

  4. money face bandwagon
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    thats why having penalty takers in ur fpl team is impt

  5. OnionBag
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Forster, McCarthy
    Bertrand, Pieters, Taylor, Chambers, Duff
    Fab, Sterling, Siggy, Chadli, Boyd
    Aguero, Costa, Pelle
    Bank 2.7, 2FT

    Can't decide whether to bring Baines in (for Pieters) or ADM (for Fab or Sterling).

    Any opinions?

    Getting them both in would require a bit of surgery elsewhere (e.g. would need to raise an extra 0.3m if I sold Fab and Pieters. Would probably do this by downgrading Chambers.

  6. Pinturicchio
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Hmmm, just noticed underlying stats for Trippier and Cresswell...

    1. Ser Football 42
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      i have cresswell 🙂

  7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Shawcross does that every corner

    Deserves to get penalised

    1. Mo Mané Mo Problems
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Every CB does it? JT is the worst imo

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        no skrytel

      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Not as bad as shawcross in my opinion

        Looks at the clips of him and fellaini when fellaini was at Everton

    2. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      call all or call none though. Not one every 10 matches

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        call all but yep uneven officiating fo sure.

    3. fatherted
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      1000% Remember qpr if you watched that. Disgraceful!

    4. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      He was doing it constantly to Caulker few weeks ago too, its about time a ref had the balls to give a penalty for defenders like him.

  8. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    I fear Southampton 0-1 Stoke is on the cards! 😐

    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Positive thinking 😉

      1. A Defender's Nightmare
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        😆

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      At least 9-0 😉

  9. I am 42
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    need to sort out my def, have 2 FT
    Terry Dier NTaylor Duff Wisdom

    1) Dier & NTaylor to Baines & 4.0(Moore or Dummett)
    2) Dier to Jagielka, keep 1 FT
    3) Terry to Baines, keep 1 FT
    4) Others

  10. Alan The Llama
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    For those saying that wasn't a penalty, you'll be glad to see this wasn't given yesterday.

    http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/10/sheffield-united-denied-penalty-for-being-violently-thrown-out-of-the-way/

    1. 1569Tippins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Never touched him

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Wow, the ref was right next to it too 😯

    3. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      That's f**king disgraceful.

    4. Debauchy
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      wtf ???

  11. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Thinking Ivanovic to Baines, any other suggestions?

    DDG
    Iva Bertrand Chambers
    ADM Fabs Sterling Siggy
    Aguero Pelle Welbeck

    McCarthy Boyd Duff Moore

    1 FT, 0.0 itb

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Ddg to Forster

      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers, could be an option.

    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      What are you going to do with DDG ?

      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Not sure. Want to get rid but feels like a waste to transfer a GK...

        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 2 months ago

          Smelly games ahead, and united are not very.... Err... Tight.

    3. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Go with that

      #TeamNoCosta

  12. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    You're never going to get away with a rugby tackle like that.

    The defender obviously felt that he'd lose out on an aerial battle so tried to cheat.

    The key thing now is to keep up the consistency with these calls.

    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      +1

    2. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Diame says hi

    3. CABAYE4
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      They get away with it 37 games a season though.

      As you say, needs to happen every time, if it does, it'll soon disappear.

  13. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    You either penalise every time this happens or just don't bother. These rare decisions are little unfair to the team that's penalised

    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Then they should commit the foul.

      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        *shouldn't

      2. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Assuming you said shouldn't, then it's refs fault he let's them off. You penalise all and it stops itself

    2. Olivier Bernards watch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      True. They should really try to be vigilant and not let defenders get away with it.

  14. Pringle
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    So. This week the big question is whether it is worth to downgrade one of Sterling, Fab or Di Maria to afford Baines. I have no clue on what to do...

    1. Del Griffith
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Probably best to do nothing then

      1. Pringle
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        Probably yes

    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Neither. Baines isn't as important as those 3.

    3. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Not worth losing a ups of those unless they get injured midweek

      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 2 months ago

        *any

    4. - DC -
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Absolutely not in my opinion. Try and look past Baines' numbers this week. You wont get them every week.

      Currently, there are only two premium defenders worth owning (if at all) and neither of their teams are keeping CS's with regularity. So you are relying heavily on attacking returns from both these defenders. If they don't come, then they are likely to score the same as 4.5 defenders. It only takes 1 goal conceded and you're relying on attacking returns. Always remember that.

    5. - DC -
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Also

      All three of those midfielders mentioned are delivering.

      You can't ignore the consistency of those three.

      Step backwards to downgrade one of them to bring a premium defender in. Unless of course you are looking at the likes of Tadic, Sigurdsson to replace them. But even still. Tread carefully.

  15. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Can't see a CS in this game.

    Come on Siggy, have a pop.

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      I thought you said it had 0-0 written all over it a few mins ago!??

  16. DIegoCosta19
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Sakho debunked the theory that players cant go more than 4 without blanking. lol

  17. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Why does shawx get so much hate here? There's more than just him who does that as do strikers.

    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      It's not hate, just that he fouled in the box.

    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      * post-Ramsey anger issues continue

      PRAIC

  18. CHANCING PUNT
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    1 more save for a save point from Begovic. #brightside

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      PREDICTION: next touch on the ball is pulling it out of the net. IMO GL

  19. Honeybadger
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Don't want to waste my fts on the gk, was thinking of playing mccarthy over bego, you think he will start next gw too?

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      yep they spent the money knowing he wasn't a bench jockey. GL

  20. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    OptaJoe @OptaJoe
    7 - No player has conceded more penalties since the start of the 2008/09 season than Ryan Shawcross in the Premier League. Clumsy.

    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      Clumsy? Not exactly what describes him...

  21. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    The Fabianski/Begovic combo isn't delivering for me then. Played the wrong keeper this time!

    1. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      £10m. 😯

  22. Dry Lunch
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Appreciate if any1 can help me!! 2 FT and I'm not sure what to do, want ADM but Los want Gaines and Coleman
    Krul guzan
    Caulker duff collo Lovren chambo
    Sterling fabs Gerard scnederlin and Downing
    Costa welbs and aguero

    I'm thinking A: Gerard and caulker out and baines and sum1 in B Costa for pelle and defender change
    What do you guys suggest??

  23. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Had Liverpool to win and BTTS, that was a rollercoaster and got a draw on this game, given Stoke too much respect i think

  24. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Naylor to get another CS since I sold him

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      No

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 2 months ago

      hahaha jinx it. Penalty. I think Adam is gonna take it

  25. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Stoke penno

  26. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    Another peno

  27. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    It's a repeat of Man City VS Tottenham

    Bring on 5 peno's!

  28. Sean
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    CMON FAB

  29. sambyy
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    oh f off

  30. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 2 months ago

    6-5 coming up!!! 🙂