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15 November 2014 2332 comments
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With seven clean sheets and 23 goals, Southampton have enjoyed a tremendous first 11 Gameweeks to the season. They sit second in the Premier League with players such as Graziano Pelle in attack and Ryan Bertrand in defence proving to be cast-iron Fantasy assets.

However, while the Saints have strong momentum, over the coming weeks they face a daunting spell leading up to Christmas and beyond.

Gameweek 12’s trip to Villa provides easy passage into a run that introduces back-to-back matches with Arsenal, Man City and Man United. Indeed, Ronald Koeman’s side will then face Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal again in the three home fixtures that follow. In short, it’s an evil spell that could well reduce Fantasy output from back to front.

With this in mind, and with Pelle already shedding owners having gone three outings without a goal, our first of two “Burning Questions” this week asks whether Southampton players should be retained or ditched?

Jonty says…
Keeping on top of big shifts in the Premier League fixture list is crucial for me as a Fantasy manager. During Southampton’s kind and very long run of games, which ends in Gameweek 12, I stocked up on their assets. In came Ryan Bertrand and Graziano Pelle in Gameweek 6 and Dusan Tadic a week later.

It was a move that has gone on to define my season with this trio bringing in a total of 45 points in Gameweek 8, when I climbed more than 150,000 places into the top 10,000. Three Gameweeks on I’m still in this elite bunch, in fact now into the too 5,000 thanks in part to Pelle’s consistent returns and Bertrand’s clean sheets. I’m not sure in seven years of playing Fantasy football one team has defined my season in such a way.

But time moves on. From Gameweek 13 they face a run that includes City, United, Everton and Chelsea at home and Arsenal away. It’s one of the worst runs of opponents I’ve ever seen. Just as I constructed a team to take advantage of their kind spell, I will now look to build a lineup that takes advantage of others who have far better fixtures. From Gameweek 13 I will either ditch all three of my Southampton assets with hits or use my wildcard.

Tadic will always have a special place in my heart with his 23-point haul in Gameweek 8, but he has achieved little since with his strong underlying stats rarely translating into Fantasy points. For me, Nacir Chadli, Gylfi Sigurdsson and Stewart Downing all offer better points potential at a cheaper price.

Pelle has been reliable against weaker sides. But I don’t think he’ll maintain that against stronger opponents. Besides, for around a million less I can get other strikers like Charlie Austin or Diafra Sakho with better fixtures and similar returns.

Bertrand has to go as well. As Heels Over Head points out in his excellent recent analysis of clean sheet data, Southampton are unlikely to maintain their excellent shut-out rate. For a million more I can tap into Chelsea’s defence. For a million less I can invest in a Burnley or Newcastle defender and use Bertrand’s cash to invest in my Alexis Sanchez fund. Fantasy Football can be a ruthless business but, in order to stay at and improve on the rank Southampton have helped me achieve, I am ready to dump their players without hesitation.

Greenwindmill says…
My view on this is probably warped by what was undoubtedly the best (luckiest) transfer I made last season: After 6 clean sheets, a goal, numerous bonus points and several price rises in the first 11 Gameweeks, it wasn’t an easy decision to dump Jose Fonte. However, Southampton’s fixtures took a turn for the worse so I took the plunge and swapped him for Per Mertesacker ahead of Southampton’s Gameweek 12 trip to the Emirates. Arsenal ran out 2-0 winners with Fonte dragging down Mertesacker for a late penalty, picking up a yellow card in the process. The incident took Fonte’s score down to zero, whilst earning Mertesacker an assist and two bonus for a score of 11. In total Mertesacker picked up 55 points in the nine weeks after I bought him. Fonte got a mere 10 in the same period.

The cynical amongst you will realise this is essentially just an excuse to brag about the one occasion last season where I made a good move. The more generous spirited elements of the community may interpret this as a valuable lesson in trusting fixtures over form (at least where defenders are concerned). I’d like to think it serves both purposes – personally I’ll be switching Nathaniel Clyne to a Swansea/West Ham defender in the hope of similar fortune to last season. I’ll also be losing Sadio Mane and Pelle for players with a little more blue on their season ticker. This may come back to haunt me but I’m crossing my fingers and hoping this is my Mertesacker moment for this year.

7 Shades of Smoke says…
Southampton are on fire right now. They’ve produced a quality goal scoring striker for around eight million, a decent midfielder for any price bracket, and go into the Gameweek 12 trip to Villa with an incredible seven clean sheets in their last ten after that 2-1 defeat at Anfield in the opening weekend of the season.

Those who’d booked tickets for Saints’ options early were handsomely rewarded, riding the strength of their fixtures all the way to Villa Park. A journey that’s been so good to so many Fantasy managers, they’d easily be forgiven for missing their stop.

Before the clouds draw in, let’s not forget that Saints are looking a quality side. They’ll score goals in tough games and the likes of Pelle and Tadic – who lie sixth and third respectively in the ICT index – will continue to be involved, though it seems reasonable to expect their opportunities to whither through the winter.
With plenty of other options coming into great form, fixtures, or better still; both, Fantasy managers may chose to give these options a stay of execution while the assess the likes of Wilfried Bony and Christian Benteke as mid-long term replacements.

In defence lies a critical decision, however. If we extrapolate Saints’ clean sheet form (70%) through to the season’s end, they’d pick up another 19 from the remaining 27 games.

To put that into perspective, the tightest defences of the past three seasons produced less for the whole campaign on average – Chelsea and Manchester City’s 18 in 2013/14 and 2012/13 respectively, and Manchester United’s 20 in 2011/12. Given that Southampton have bagged seven already, that additional 19 clean sheets projection now looks massively inflated, and a quick glance at the glorious vista through the rear window of the Saints bandwagon gives an inclination as to why (Saints’ last ten: WBA, whm, NEW, swa, QPR, tot, SUN, STO, hul, LEI). In contrast, the forecast for Saints’ next nine isn’t quite so bright (MCI, ars, MUN, bur, EVE, cpl, CHE, ARS, mun). With Chelsea offering deluxe packages to the promised land of clean sheet consistency, and Swansea and Aston Villa advertising fair weather trips for any budget, it seems that Villa Park could make an apt interchange for Fantasy managers planning defensive budgets for the journey ahead.

Spencer says…
I currently have three Southampton players; Bertrand, Clyne, and Pelle. I’ve had Clyne from the beginning, and when Pelle since Gameweek 5, and Bertrand in Gameweek 6. Pelle has been consistent for me, but with fixtures stiffening and cheaper options with more favourable fixtures becoming available (Diafra Sakho, Saido Berahino, maybe even Danny Ings), I think it’s time to ditch the big Italian.

The defence is not such an easy decision, however. Rightly or wrongly, I’ve experimented with a number of double-ups in defence this season (West Brom, Newcastle and Southampton), with the Saints pairing being the most successful by far.

My double Southampton defence feels like a Toyota Prius; reliable but just a bit dull. My current thinking is that I’m going to break up this pairing and go for something cheaper like a Peugeot 207, aware that every now and then it will break down, but knowing that with the money saved, I can get also get a slightly more exciting Volkswagen Golf. With a little bit of shopping around, I might even stumble on a GTI!

Mark says…
I’ve already nailed my colours to the mast here – shedding Bertrand somewhat prematurely in Gameweek 10 in order to fund an urgent move for Alexis Sanchez. Looking ahead, I knew I could turn to Calum Chambers in my 3-4-3 and that Bertand’s forthcoming fixures threatened to produce a run of 2-pointers.

I won’t be considering Southampton’s rearguard again until they’ve navigated through Gameweeks 13-15. If they show resilience through that spell, I may plan to invest again and I suspect I’ll still be able to pick up Toby Alderweireld for 5.0 should that be the case.

In attacking areas, my soft spot for Tadic could be my undoing. He’s one of those players you want to keep for the silky deft touches on Match of the Day and the huge Opta numbers he produces week on week. However, the big return of Gameweek 8 is a fading memory after three consecutive blanks, making the trip to Villa’s a big one for myself and other Tadic converts.

I still think he can offer value – there’s a cast of mid-price assets on show this season and, while Tadic is pricey by comparison, I’ve faith that, with set-piece duties and penalties, the Serb schemer can deliver points to warrant his price tag – even against stiff opposition.

Another blank at Villa might just change my mind. Fantasy football is fickle like that.

Applebonkers says…
First of all I really wish Ronald Koeman was my dad. He just seems so nice, so happy, so wise. However, can we trust someone who seems so perfect? Of course not, he’s definitely hiding something, that’s just how it works. The upcoming run of fixtures definitely has the potential to expose his bizarrely placed third nipple and his chronic flatulence problem.

I’m sure I’m not saying anything particularly interesting or enlightening here but those fixtures are filthy. They have showed enough signs that they will compete in these big games but I reckon this will be more in an attacking sense than defensively. This could still mean there is something in Clyne and Bertrand but are this pair really in the Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman echelons of play anyway in case of attacking points? I think they’re still in the clean sheets are bread and butter camp.

I’d definitely let go of their centre backs but Frazer Forster is trickier due to save points and the “limpet-ablity” of goalkeepers, so I’m 50/50 there. That leaves the attacking players. Can they be relied on to keep it going like former stalwarts Le Tissier, Beattie and Dia? I don’t think any of them showed enough against Liverpool, West Ham, Swansea or Tottenham. Bank the price rises and hope for more of the same, especially from “statzilla” Tadic.

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  1. Studgie G
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    lol tearing it up this round on euro fantasy all because i have welbeck.

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
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      I sold him. Solid move.

      1. Studgie G
        • 14 Years
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        i had the feelin, he's a troll

    2. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
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      I have him and had Muller (C) 😀

      1. Studgie G
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        same i also have pod, gotze and yarmo

        1. Puyol Pants Up
          • 11 Years
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          😯

    3. 420king
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      points atm? 🙂

      1. Studgie G
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        80 but your still ahead the guy thats first screwed up this time took a 12 pt hit

        1. 420king
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          80 too, rank 1 atm yeah but still have two CSs playing

        2. Puyol Pants Up
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          I did Bale -> Reus.
          Realise Reus is injured 2 minutes after I did the transfer
          Do Reus -> Muller for a hit.

          😀

          1. Studgie G
            • 14 Years
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            -2 so not that bad

            1. Puyol Pants Up
              • 11 Years
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              Yeah. But I could of got Muller in the first place if I did my research 😛

      2. KingZamalek
        • 11 Years
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        74 with 5 players (Isaksson, Blind, Lichtsteiner, Shaqiri and Alcacer) to play 😎

  2. Del Griffith
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    Save it for the Man U game Welbz!

    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
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      Lool Jesus.

  3. Lallana_
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    Pelle>Welbeck
    Clyne>Azpilicueta

    😛

    1. AH 🙂
      • 11 Years
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      Thinking the same to ! And i aint got alexis

      1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
        • 16 Years
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        One word, Giroud.

        1. A guy
          • 11 Years
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          But he's not going to start that soon.

    2. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
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      Then Welbz>Giroud in a few weeks 😉

      1. Lallana_
        • 11 Years
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        I hope nobody did these transfers

  4. isacki: full casual
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    With 55 minutes gone at 0-0 I put a fiver on England to win by more than 1 goal at 3/1. England then scored 4 goals in 20 minutes including one at the wrong end.

  5. Ginkapo FPL
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    United sold their best striker, arguably best player this summer.

    Pity Real already had CR7

  6. Pointsonthebench
    • 11 Years
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    Am I right in thinking that Mane is playing Wednesday in Senegal?

  7. VougieDipond
    • 13 Years
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    Should have had Welbeck to add to Yarmalenko and Mueller in fantasy EQ. Epic scoring

  8. PGR
    • 14 Years
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    Welbeck worth holding onto one more week? Is Giroud ready to start against United?

    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      yes, no. but soon.

    2. Pointsonthebench
      • 11 Years
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      I think it's safe to assume Welbeck still start against United.

    3. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
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      Welbeck when Giroud's back is 50/50 to start IMO
      Depends how he does against Utd

  9. the Penman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    There's that Wellbeck whose international form is so poor...

  10. Lallana_
    • 11 Years
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    Sterling looked dangerous tonight. Hopefully he keeps these performances up and starts scoring a bit more.

  11. Ginkapo FPL
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    My Arsenal XI

    ----------Giroud, Welbeck

    Ozil --------Sanchez-------Walcott

    -

    -

    -

    -------------------Wilshere

    Gibbs, ---Kos,--- Mert, ----Debuchy

    -----------------Sir Sczc

    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I dream of 2 up top.

    2. A guy
      • 11 Years
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      Ramsey instead of Özil much more likely, but I think Giroud and Welbeck wouldn't look that good playing together since they're both players that work for others rather than themselves.

  12. Optimus.
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    Hmm might get in Welbeck..What's his record like vs Utd?

    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
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      Never lost. 😉

      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
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        STAT!

    2. John t penguin
      • 11 Years
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      Brilliant in training

    3. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
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      Don't get him in. Not a good long-term solution. If you have him, keep him for at least another week.

      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
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        Whoooooooosh 😀

  13. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
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    Hendo's OG did England a favour

    1. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
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      Woke them up

      1. Studgie G
        • 14 Years
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        might work for us we've been asleep all season

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
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      We should just an OG early in every match. It would pyschologically damage the opponents too

  14. Hamstergod
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Doing pretty well in EQ fantasy, Welbeck, Rooney, Muller, Jarmolenko and double Ukrainian defense, 77 points so far , hope my evening players won't dissapoint

    1. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I am on 50 (after -6 for transfers) from 4 players so far

      1. Hamstergod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        very nice ! You could be on your way to a top score

        1. VougieDipond
          • 13 Years
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          hopefully, need the players to do well in 7:45 KO's 🙂

          1. Hamstergod
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
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            Good luck then !
            I'm hoping for Switzerland and Spain to score high

            1. VougieDipond
              • 13 Years
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              same! I have Shaquiri and seferovic and Alcacer, djourou and Alba

              1. Hamstergod
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
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                Shaquiri, Rodriguez and Alcacer.

                I'd expect especially Spain to dominate as they need some good results.

    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
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      EQ Fantasy. Tell me this is an elaborate joke.

      1. Hamstergod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        Nope, there is a Fantasy for everything nowadays 🙂

      2. 420king
        • 11 Years
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        after you tell me how bored international break makes you....

      3. VougieDipond
        • 13 Years
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        it's a good game. Much better than UCL.

        1. Hamstergod
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
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          this

  15. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
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    Defensive move from Hodgson

    Sterling off for Gibbs

    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Neat trick.

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
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      I'm confused why Walcott is playing on the left side

      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
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        It's Ox isn't it?

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
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          Whooooosh

          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 13 Years
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            Whooooooooooooooosh

          2. John t penguin
            • 11 Years
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            Must be his own plane coming back round

        2. Lloyd Xmas
          • 14 Years
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          You fell for it 🙂

          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 13 Years
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            No I didn't. I'm not even watching.

    3. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
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      Will never get old 😀

  16. The-Best
    • 11 Years
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    Did Sterling go off injured??

    1. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
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      Tired

    2. 420king
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      nah

  17. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    bit nervous about danny sellbeck now. still, it meant turning water (albrighton) into wine (chadli)

    1. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Selling Welbeck for the long-term will prove to be a good move with Giroud back.

      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
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        I guess. still think it is welbeck's place to lose even when he is back

    2. applebonkers
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      *chabli

  18. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Greece v Faroe's 0-1
    Moldova v Lichtenstein 0-1
    San Marino v Estonia 0-0

    The "minnows" fight back

    1. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      wish I had that on a £10 treble

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
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        With Austria to beat Russia too

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
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      Add Germany only scoring 4 against Gibraltar

    3. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Lichtenstein tend to get results from smaller teams, at least for me that one isn't a big surprise.

  19. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
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    Clyne looks like he's off to a Stars in their Eyes afterwards as Des Walker

    1. Lloyd Xmas
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      lol 🙂

  20. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
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    Smalling on

    Quick bet on the draw

    1. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
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      😛

  21. A guy
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Hope those 2 goals force people to get Welbeck now 🙂

    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Isn't that what happened last time?

  22. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Smalling oh joy

    Can we just stick with Paddy McNair if he's fit

    1. okiwatevs
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Doesn't he play for Northern Ireland?

  23. Studgie G
    • 14 Years
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    jags has looked alot more of a threat from corners this season reminds me when he was still at sheffield

  24. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
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    Must get my hearing checked out. I am sure I just heard Townsend give Wilshere the MOM.

    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
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      Wilshere Man with the matches

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Dont be jelly bro.

    3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      He was the best player on the pitch by some distance for the 1st hour all I watched. Did he decline massively in the last 30?

    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Wilshere got the MOM, Rooney got the GRANDMA

  25. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    • 13 Years
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    Smalling is the longest standing joke in professional football.

    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
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      He's won 21 titles though. Wbu?

      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
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        I have been informed via. A very serious email that I am no longer allowed to inform people of how many titles I have won. I am now restricted to extremely serious posts only 😀

        1. Demí
          • 14 Years
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          Disgraceful scenes. Must've been an abu

          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            • 13 Years
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            I didn't dare suggest that. But I do suspect Granville is very anti-Utd.

        2. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
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          😀

  26. Lallana_
    • 11 Years
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    Hahaha Welbeck stealing the ball off Rooney...learn your place kid. And I hate Utd.

  27. PGR
    • 14 Years
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    Jack Wilshere MOTM?? Why?

    1. Lloyd Xmas
      • 14 Years
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      Because Townsend said he was "BETTER" than the rest.