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3 January 2015 2534 comments
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We turn our attentions to Gameweek 21 this morning, with league action set to commence in just seven days’ time. Tony Pulis and Alan Pardew are handed some kind opening fixtures at the helm of West Brom and Crystal Palace respectively, whilst Man United and Sunderland are also afforded a degree of optimism thanks to the upcoming schedule.

SUNDERLAND

“frisking

With just one win in their last ten league outings, Gus Poyet’s side are in need of a dose of rescue remedy at the start of the New Year. Fortunately for the Black Cats, the impending fixture list looks promising, with four home encounters on their imminent agenda; Liverpool travel to the Stadium of Light next weekend, with Burnley, QPR and West Brom also heading to the north west in the next six.

Although last Thursday’s fight-back at Man City ultimately proved unfruitful, Sunderland will be nonetheless buoyed by their spirited display ahead of that kind run of matches. The Wearsiders’ lack of results certainly hasn’t been down to their rearguard who have registered five shut-outs in their last nine displays, and their budget defensive options could now receive plenty of attention. The 4.5-valued Costel Pantilimon’s authoritative performances between the sticks have played a big role in their defensive fortunes, though with Patrick van Aanholt and Anthony Reveillere expected back in mid-January, there’s plenty of uncertainty at full-back, with the likes of Santiago Vergini and Billy Jones also in contention. Vergini’s versatility could see him switch to centre-half, though.

Further forward, strikers Connor Wickham and Steven Fletcher have managed a single goal between them since Gameweek 10, though the form of Adam Johnson offers hope. The 6.0-priced midfielder has earned returns in five of his previous six appearances, courtesy of three goals and an assist, and looks an in-form differential option for our five-man midfields for the remainder of the winter.

WEST BROM

“frisking

Hardly the most appealing of Fantasy prospects in recent months, the Baggies have registered a single win in their last ten and picked up five points in the process. The instalment of Tony Pulis, however, could bring West Brom’s defence back onto our radars if the former Palace boss can instill the same sort of resilience that harvested 10 clean sheets in his 26 matches in charge at Palace last term.

With an enticing schedule now lying in wait, interest in the Baggies’ assets could be set to pick up. The Midlands outfit welcome Hull, Spurs and Swansea in the next six, and with trips to Everton, Burnley and Sunderland also coming up, Pulis has one of the kindest schedules around.

Despite their lowly league position, West Brom have registered as many clean sheets as third-placed Man United this season, and Andre Wisdom (4.4) and Ben Foster (4.6) may be set to offer considerable value across that forthcoming schedule. Further forward, Stephane Sessegnon has impressed of late, grabbing four assists in his last five starts, and the Benin international’s creativity could prove central to Pulis’ renaissance plans. Saido Berahino, meanwhile, scored for the first time since Gameweek 9 on New Year’s Day, and delivered maximum bonus points – after falling down the pecking order, he’ll be hoping to cement a starting berth once again and offer Fantasy managers another budget forward to consider.

MAN UNITED

“frisking

A 1-1 draw at Stoke extended the Red Devils’ unbeaten run to ten league encounters, and the forthcoming fixture list will provide Louis van Gaal’s men with every chance of prolonging that streak. United entertain Southampton at Old Trafford next weekend in what could prove to be a decisive match in the hunt for Champions League qualification and they then face QPR, Leicester and Burnley in three of their following four. With clashes against Newcastle and Sunderland also further down the line, United have the opportunity to build up a real head of steam before the road gets rough from Gameweek 29 onwards.

David De Gea’s status as the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game’s most popular goalkeeper shouldn’t change, then, and with United’s rearguard having conceded just three times in the last five outings, their other backline assets could now warrant interest; the 5.2-priced pair Phil Jones and Jonny Evans look nailed on, though Rafael will be hoping to cement the right wing-back berth should Ashley Young be ruled out for an extended period of time with the hamstring injury suffered at the Britannia.

With Angel Di Maria still struggling with pelvic problems, Juan Mata continues to earn starts in the United midfield, and has recorded 28 points in his last three home appearances. Up top, managers have the pleasure and pain of a trio of options to choose from. Wayne Rooney’s (10.8) minutes are secured, though his recent withdrawal to a deeper midfield role is a deterrent, whilst up top, Radamel Falcao (10.5) is starting to suggest he could offer us a viable alternative to Robin Van Persie (12.5) – the Colombian has notched returns in three of his last four, and his cheaper price tag and 2.6% ownership could persuade some to place their faith in his abilities.

Crystal Palace

“frisking

With Alan Pardew taking up the Selhurst Park reigns, hope for survival has been renewed, despite the Eagles’ run of just one win in their last 14 league matches. A tricky meeting with Spurs is first up for the new boss, though encounters with Burnley, Everton and Leicester in their subsequent three offer the platform for the new boss to be an instant hit with the Palace fans.

Back-to-back clean sheets have offered promise for the Eagles’ backline assets, with the 4.9-valued Scott Dann the stand-out pick after also scoring in Gameweek 18. Indeed, it’s their capabilities at the other end of the pitch that has been the main problem for the Londoners, who have scored just twice in their last seven, and with Mile Jedinak and Yannick Bolasie off to compete in the Asian Cup and Africa Cup of Nations respectively, the onus now lies with the likes of Jason Puncheon and Man United loanee Wilfried Zaha to deliver.

Also Consider…

Burnley
The Clarets are offered a plum next four to help them find their first win since Gameweek 16; vital home meetings with fellow relegation battlers QPR and Crystal Palace are first up, before a trip to Sunderland and then another Turf Moor fixture against West Brom. Back-to-back goals have raised George Boyd’s Fantasy status from bench warmer to first XI material, and his band of owners will now face the dilemma of how to fit him into their plans over the next four. Strike duo Danny Ings and Ashley Barnes will also be prime candidates for investment, and having proved their mettle against some of the league’s top clubs, they could cause havoc against their lowly opponents.

Leicester
Nigel Pearson’s battlers also have the upcoming schedule in their favour. Just like the Clarets, the Foxes also boast three home fixtures in that period, with Aston Villa, Stoke and Crystal Palace all rolling up to the King Power Stadium. The Africa Cup of Nations looks set to hit Nigel Pearson’s side particularly hard, with the in-form duo of Jeffrey Schlupp and Riyad Mahrez both set to head off to the competition – in their absence, the likes of Leonardo Ulloa and David Nugent, who has earned a goal and an assist in his last two outings, will need to step up to the plate.

Arsenal
The Gunners boast three enticing home fixtures in their next five, as Stoke, Aston Villa and Leicester travel to the Emirates. Arsene Wenger will be hopeful of overturning the dire defensive form that has seen his side concede in their last seven league displays, with 5.2-priced right back Mathieu Debuchy most likely to attract investment if they can tighten up. Further forward, Alexis Sanchez (11.4) and Santi Cazorla (8.2) could be primed to profit – the former has delivered over nine points per appearance over his last three at the Emirates and could punish those who chose to look elsewhere after his blanks in the previous two Gameweeks. Olivier Giroud is available again up front, and having scored three times in the two matches prior to suspension, could appeal to those Wilfried Bony owners looking for a similarly priced replacement.

Liverpool
Thursday’s collapse against Leicester came as something of a surprise after Brendan Rodgers’ outfit had seemingly found their form with an authoritative 4-1 victory over Swansea only three days beforehand. With a top-four finish still within reach, however, the Merseysiders will now be looking to rediscover their resilience and string together some form over the coming weeks, in which they are blessed with a selection of promising fixtures; trips to Sunderland and Aston Villa are up next, followed by a home meeting with West Ham and a visit to struggling rivals Everton.

At the back, Martin Skrtel sat out the Foxes clash due to suspension, though averaged a notable 5.6 points per appearance across his previous five, and, at 5.8, remains the best candidate within the Reds’ rearguard. However, it will be in midfield that Liverpool will receive the most attention, with a recent tactical switch raising the potential of a number of their assets. Raheem Sterling (8.4), Philippe Coutinho (7.6) and Adam Lallana (8.3) have been fielded as the front three over the last five Gameweeks, and whilst the latter’s thigh injury will be a concern, the former two underlined their appeal with an assist apiece against the Foxes. Coutinho is finally beginning to show his class this season, having now delivered points in each of his last four outings, and with an ownership still at just 3.3%, he looks a great differential right now.

  1. il Brutto
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Put a tenner on Blackburn, M'boro, Bournemouth, Sevilla and Villareal wins. Surely I can already go and use the money.

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Bournemouth does not agree

      1. il Brutto
        • 12 Years
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        There is always some who want to make it interesting 🙂

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          😉

  2. Randy_Marsh
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Which back 3?

    Zabaleta, Baines, Azpi, Wisdom, Naylor

    1. McSauce
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      zaba baines azpi

      Always play ur best!

      1. Randy_Marsh
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Wisdom looks good against Hull though>?

        1. kanoakita7
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Would play wisdom

        2. McSauce
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          hull are scoring and west broom are conceding!!

          Pulis can't have that much of an impact so fast!

          Could be wrong your call man! You asked for our opinions thats mine

          1. Randy_Marsh
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Thanks 🙂

    2. Crinix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Bench baines. Bring him back gameweek 22 against west brom. Play wisdom this round

  3. McSauce
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    G2G? 0FT 3.5m ITB

    Foster
    Terry Baines Hutton
    Hazard Silva Fabregas Sanchez
    Austin Benteke Kane

    Myhill Caulker Marney Moore

  4. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    How holmes is not sent off there is disgusting

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
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      😮

      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
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        🙂

    2. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Watching the tramere swansea watch

  5. kanoakita7
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Given what you said, you should wildcard. You could get 4 much better options:

    Vlaar --> Wisdom/Jones
    Sakho --> Moreno/Kolo
    Zaba --> I would look to get him out for the next 3gws at least, so terry/spurs defender might be better?

    Yaya resources have to go to sanchez/hazard if you don't have them already, or to your strike force if you prefer.

    Defo get baines out, everton are in a shambles.

  6. Vamos Los Celeste
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    and Pulis is having job downstairs now ..

  7. nosejob
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    WC team:

    Panti / Heaton
    Terry / Debuchy / Wisdom / Hutton / Vergini
    Sanchez / Hazard / Chadli / ADM / Boyd
    Costa / Kane / Austin

    2.2 ITB

    Thoughts? Thanks!

  8. kanoakita7
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Given what you said, you should definitely wildcard. You could get 4 much better options:

    Vlaar --> Wisdom/Jones
    Sakho --> Moreno/Kolo
    Zaba --> I would look to get him out for the next 3gws at least, so terry/spurs defender might be better?

    Yaya resources have to go to sanchez/hazard if you don't have them already, or to your strike force if you prefer.

    Defo get baines out, everton are in a shambles.

  9. TheCurseOfRaheem
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Who to bench out of Hutton, Cresswell and Naylor?

    1. kanoakita7
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Get hutton out completely, but for this gw bench naylor, cannot see west ham not scoring and without bony i fear for swansea's attack

      1. nosejob
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Why Hutton out completely? Massive point scorer for the price.

        1. kanoakita7
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Look at their next 4 game weeks. No chance of a clean sheet?

          1. nosejob
            • 11 Years
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            Away at Leicester? After that, three bad weeks, but if you tend to play three at the back then I think you can stand it.

        2. kanoakita7
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          You'd be better off with wisdom for the same price?

  10. Wirtzle Gummidge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Brendan Rodgers is currently at the League One match between Fleetwood Town vs Swindon.

    Next Job?

    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Scouting for striker

    2. Goodfella
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      ;D

      He's watching his son, who plays for Swindon.

      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        I am one happy Fleetwood Fan.

        1. Goodfella
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          You at the ground?

        2. megatronaldinho
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          when it rains at your matches, do you wear a fleetwood mac? oh. my. living. jebus. i'll show myself out 🙁

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            If you don't I will 😉

            1. megatronaldinho
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 1 month ago

              😀 i just can't help myself when it comes to bad puns. it's a sickness

    3. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Picking the next Stevie G

  11. Super PVA - Small Spuds
    • 12 Years
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    *with Burnley, QPR and West Brom also heading to the north EAST in the next six.

  12. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone come up with any good defensive rotations for the wildcard? ( already been informed of a wba/sun rotation)

    1. kanoakita7
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Lloris/De gea/Pantilimon/Forster

      Wisdom/Terry/Bertrand/Moreno/Jones

      Could get a CPA but i dont trust them to keep cs

      1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yer pardew not know for his defensive solidarity.

    2. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I thought it was WBA/Newcastle rotation rather than WBA/SUN

  13. kanoakita7
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    WILDCARD: [WIll be pretty strong for around 6 GWs I reckon, will aim to get Aguero and a MC defender after 3/4 along with a chelsea defender]

    Lloris [Cry (A)]

    Wisdom [Hull (H)] ; Moreno [Sun (A)], Terry [New (H)]

    Chadli [Cry (A)] ; Sanchez (STK (H)] ; Boyd [Cry (H)] ; Hazard [New (H)]

    Berahino [Hull (H)] ; Van Persie [Sou (H)] ; Kane [CRY (A)]

    Subs: Pantilimon [LIV (H)]; Jones [Sun (H)]; A.Johnson [Liv (H)]; Bertrand [Mun (A)]

    4.2M ITB. Any changes?

    1. Crinix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      How did you choose between van persoe and falcao? You have a good team, good luck. Was the wildcard necessary?

      1. kanoakita7
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        The main reason is their fitness, I still don't think Falcao is fully match fit even though he has been more prolific than RVP recently. It is a punt but I'm hoping it pays off.

        Yes, definitely. I am top of 3 leagues and 3rd in another, last 3-4 gameweeks my points have stagnated and i have squandered a hundred point lead into 30/40 point difference. I'm hoping this change will help me to stay top for a while

  14. hazza44
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    What to do with my free with 3.7 in the bank? Have no idea.

    Guzan (McCarthy)

    Wisdom Zab Aspi (Taylor Oshea)

    Sanchez Hazard Silva Downing (Boyd)

    Austin RVP Kane

    thanks guys

    1. ddogi
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Nobody has mentioned Coutinho. He's starting to shine this season, i think he might be worth it

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Nice team!

      Save this week and prepare for getting in Aguero next week?

  15. Wingate
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Best mid for next 4-5 gws?

    A - fabregas
    B - eriksen
    C - chadli
    D - sterling
    E - lallana
    F - DiMaria
    G - cazorla

    Regardless of other players I have....

    1. kanoakita7
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      A,D

    2. Red Scout
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      A C & F imo!

    3. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      A and c

    4. XhakaCan
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 1 month ago

      A and C before a wildcard, A and F after

  16. Jay_
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will Creswell and DDG rise again before deadline ? And could Clichy double rise ?

      Sounds silly but I want to get my normal team in ( OCD)

      1. Timtastic03
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Really hard to tell with the active WCs

        1. Jay_
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Ta mate , I will just hold off for now

      2. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Albrighton on his way back?

      3. KISSES
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Falcao or ADM?

      4. Jebiga
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Di maria or sterling ?
        Need to dump yaya, also have silva, alexis, hazard, boyd

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Di Maria might not back yet and Sterling has only 1 league goal the last 15 matches. I'm considering Chadli instead.

          1. Jebiga
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Have kane as spurs cover, but dont have utd or liverpool plaers...

            1. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 1 month ago

              Gerrard?

              1. Jebiga
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 1 month ago

                Yup, i forgot him 🙂
                Thanks

      5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        A real snooze fest this Fa cup so far today.

      6. Crinix
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Lineup for gameweek 21

        Guzan (vs leic)
        Trippier (vs qpr)
        Ivanovic (vs newcastle)
        Wisdom (vs crystal)

        Hazard (c) - (vs newcastle)
        Silva - (vs everton)
        Eriksen - (vs crystal)
        Sterling - (vs sunderland)

        Ings (vs qpr)
        Benteke (vs leic)
        Kane (vs crystal)

        -8
        Bony/yaya/yoshida/austin out
        Ings/hazard/trippier/kane in

        Possible talk, please comment
        Thank you all.

        1. Red Scout
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Not sure who you're taking out but Kane & Hazard enough. Wouldn't take hits for the rest

          1. Crinix
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Bony/yaya/yoshida/austin out
            Ings/hazard/trippier/kane in

            Except for austin, all the others are unavailable

            1. Red Scout
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 1 month ago

              I'd keep Austin & do the rest

        2. Eye of the Schweinsteiger
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Dont buy ings and keep Austin to keep it to a -4

          1. Crinix
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            I could keep austin yes..but instead of kane. Because ings could prove a good choice for the next 2 gameweeks. However, id have to cross my fingers with a kane miss.

      7. All about Pliny
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Gents,
        Does it make sense to swap Boyd for Lampard as the fifth midfielder and Falcao for Rooney?

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Wouldn't

      8. wslnpt
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        How is this for a WC-team?

        Heaton - Pantilimon

        Bertrand - Terry - Wisdom - Hutton - Wazilewski

        Hazard - Fabregas - ADM - Sanchez - Boyd

        Aguero - Austin - Kane

        1. RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Looks great!

        2. And we all have legs
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Pretty much exactly what I have in mind. Except I have Lescott over Wisdom.

        3. Jebiga
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Alderweireld instead of bertrand ?

          1. wslnpt
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            I really like Bertrands attacking stats.

      9. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Best option ?

        A) Rooney Kane Fabregas

        B) Costa Austin Eriksen

        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          A

        2. Red Scout
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          A

      10. Timtastic03
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        DYER!!!!

      11. Vamos Los Celeste
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Dyer

      12. Elijah's Wood
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Ive got 2 free transfers and £1m in the bank, not sure what to do with this:

        Pantil
        S.Taylor, Bartley, Zaba, Azpi, Hutton
        Hazard, Sanchez, Silva, Yaya, Bolasie
        Kane, Rooney, Austin

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Yaya out for starters.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 16 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Bolasie, Taylor and Bartley not far behind.

            1. Elijah's Wood
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 1 month ago

              But im not seeing any clear replacements. Wonder whether i can leave him for another week and hope he goes next GW when i plan to wild card

              Taylor > Bertrand/Trippier seems to be pretty good (if i sell yaya that is)

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 16 Years
                11 years, 1 month ago

                Don't see a CS for either this week.

      13. ronmadpirlo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yes Blyth!!!

        1. Wouter
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Pfftt.. Got Birmingham in my acca.

      14. Wouter
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        West brom look really poor.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          The Poorlis effect?

        2. Cousin Greg
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Defence is all over the place.
          No Pulis effecct yet.

      15. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Albrighton subbed in for Leicester already, comeback in the lesgue, too?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          11 years, 1 month ago

          They need 2 wingers so yes.

          1. RamaJama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 1 month ago

            One is out?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 16 Years
              11 years, 1 month ago

              ACON

              1. RamaJama
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 1 month ago

                Ah, thanks a lot, no need to spend a ft to replace him yet then