August
28

Scout Report – Nuri Sahin

Filed under: Scout Reports - Posted by: Paul

Beating Arsenal to the punch in a last-minute swoop, Liverpool clinched the signature of Nuri Sahin on a one-year loan deal towards the end of last week. The Turkish midfielder becomes the fourth new face of Brendan Rodgers’ new regime, following Oussama Assaidi, Joe Allen and Fabio Borini to the club as the former Swansea boss begins to stamp his own sign on the Reds’ first XI:

Upon completion of the deal, Rodgers admitted the Chelsea connection played a part in his chase of the player, with his determination to sign Sahin only furthered following talks with his former mentor at Stamford Bridge, Jose Mourinho:

Jose has been fantastic in talking about his qualities and strengths. It’s a great opportunity to bring in a top technician. For me it’s important players can technically participate in the game. I’ve got some outstanding players here but this guy has got experience as well for a young player of 23. He’s a master technician and that’s something important, that I’ve got players who can cope with the game.

The Statistics

Sahin’s career began in the Bundesliga with Borussia Dortmund. Handed his debut at the age of 16 in 2005, he turned out 47 times in his first couple of seasons at the club, returning a goal and seven assists before being farmed out to Feyenoord for the 2007-08 season. The year in the Eredivisie saw Sahin develop a keen eye for goal, finding the net six times over 29 league matches in addition to providing five assists.

Returning to Germany, Sahin spent the next three years at Dortmund with his spell culminating in a title triumph for the club in 2010/11 – a season that also saw him pick up the Bundesliga Player of the Year award. His final three campaigns for Jürgen Klopp’s side harvested 88 league appearances, with Sahin producing 12 goals and 22 assists before being snapped up by Real Madrid on a six-year contract. His one season at the Bernabeu was plagued by injury, with Sahin making just four appearances for Jose Mourinho’s league winners before his temporary move to Merseyside. He has also turned out for his national side 31 times and found the net on two occasions.

The Prospects

Sahin’s move to Liverpool is an intriguing one. The Arsenal option looked a far more straightforward situation to understand after the Gunners lost Alex Song to Barcelona but, while the Turkish midfielder looked certain of game time at the Emirates, he still feels he is in line to play a significant part in the Reds’ season – a fact he reiterated after signing:

I want to play football – and it was important for me to be at a club where the manager really wants me… We’ve had a lot of conversations. We spoke and he told me about his ideas for how he wants to play football and where he sees me on the field in the team…I wanted to play for a club on the same level as Dortmund and Madrid – that’s why I chose Liverpool. This year, it is very important for me to play. I have to play, improve my game and help the team. If I stay in good condition, I am sure I can help the team and Liverpool Football Club, and Brendan Rodgers and my new team-mates can help me.

With Mourinho and Sahin desperate for the player to feature regularly, it would seem Rodgers has given both reassurances – which begs the question: just where will he play?

A cultured playmaker, Sahin also boasts a superb work-rate and ball-winning ability which was best served in a 4-2-3-1 formation at Dortmund, with his outstanding passing from deep a feature of his play. The only problem is that Joe Allen and Lucas stand in his way and both perfectly fit the bill within Rodgers’ 4-3-3 formation; however, reports earlier this morning suggest Lucas may be sidelined with a thigh injury – if this proves true, it would certainly offer Sahin an obvious route into the first XI.

With Steven Gerrard currently occupying the advanced central midfield role, it seems impossible to think the new boy will oust the skipper in Rodgers’ plans. Alternatively, Sahin could play in “the hole” with Gerrard on the right – clearly, there are plenty of scenarios and we’re likely to only get a handle on the situation as the Gameweeks unfold. Certainly, Sahin’s set-piece delivery could rival Gerrard and Luis Suarez for free-kicks, with corners also a strong point.

Yet to be priced across the Fantasy games, it’s unlikely that Sahin will come in highly if he’s looked upon as a defensive midfielder. If he does, indeed, end up in a deeper role, the Turkish star should be an appealing proposition in the Sky Sports game, with Rodgers’ possession game suitable to the new bonus ruling for 60+ passes per game. With three more days until the transfer window closes, though, there could well be more arrivals at Anfield and, with a tricky schedule on the horizon (ARS, sun, MUN) it’s likely we’ll steer clear of Liverpool’s assets until the first-team picture becomes a little less cloudy in time for a strong run of fixtures from Gameweek 6-8.

Further Reference

Nuri Sahin Wikipedia

Nuri Sahin Statistics

Nuri Sahin YouTube

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  1. Ohh the moments of joy when your mini league rival all smug with 3.0 in the bank and says they are going to do Torres > RVP followed by shouts of F*** F***. I love this game!

  2. Right at the bottom of the previous page... doh

    Wildcarding? RMT?
    Vorm, Begovic
    Gibbs, Jagielka, Rangel, Vermaelen, Collins
    Michu, Kagawa, Hazard, Fellaini, McClean
    Tevez, Petric, Odemwingie

    1. Sorry, but I hate Begovic, Gibbs, Verm, Collins, McClean, Petric and Odemwingie.

      I don't know much, mind, but just my opinion :)

      1. McClean's the best of that little lot, but agreed, I no like either.

    2. I don't like Gibbs, Verm and Odemwingie.

      1. See last page.

        1. Cheers, I've always liked Odemwingie. Begovic and Vorm rotate okay. I've got rid of Gibbs for Hangeland and also brought in Ivanovic. Petric is firing well, but no doubt I'll tweak some more before Saturday.
          I just can't take another week falling further behind.

  3. PLEASE HELP!

    I have 8.5m for a forward and deciding between these 3:

    - Fletcher 7.0 (will he start right away?)
    - Jelavic 8.5 (already have Baines for Everton coverage)
    - Demba Ba 7.6

    1. Ba.. .don't thnik twice...

      villa, norwich, reading in his next 4 GWs

    2. Jelly

  4. Anyone considering Ruiz over Petric or Graham?
    he has had great involvment in fulham's attack, plays 90 minutes... and only has 1,6%possesion...

    1. great player but negative OOP feckes it up, as a mid id love him

      1. I don't know if you're a member but looking ate comparition tool in members area he's not that oop...

    2. ...made you think out of the box hey?

      1. lol yes

      2. have you already used the comparation tool to compare him against petric?

        1. No. Waiting for you to do that.

          1. lol he has 7 goal atempts against petric's 5 and 7 crossings against petric's 1

            1. Penalty box touches
              Petric 8, Ruiz 3
              Shots in the box
              Petric 4
              Ruiz 2
              Shots on target
              Petric 80%
              Ruiz 43%

              But yes, as I said, its a close call

      3. You made a good point, Ruiz is more involved and a key player.. but, (imo) I prefer to look at keystats like penalty box touches, shots in the box and on target..
        but considering Ruiz assist potential+some scoring potential, it could be pretty much a cointoss..

        1. I know those are important points, but game time is also important, and I can see Ruiz doing lots of assistances...

          1. Agree, good arguments for both players really.. toss a coin a go for it :D

            1. I think I'll go Ruiz just for the Dif factor...
              But I will keep Petric until saturday morning in the hope of a price rise...

      4. I was looking at your team, and it looks strong... Since you feel that way about Pienaar, I think it's legit to go Noble (to get Ba)... he also has good fixtures coming up, and he's on Peno's and FK...

    3. He's POO though?

  5. The amount of Sheldon Cooper gravs is TOO DAMN HIGH

    1. No it isnt,,,,,,BAZZINGAAAA!!!

    2. Sorry..

  6. Two biggest calls that affect entire structure of my team.

    1) Keep Bale?
    Pros: Advanced
    Goalscorer and assister from midfield
    Fixtures short term
    Cons: AVB
    9.5m

    2) Keep Gerrard?
    Pros: Pens, corners, some free kicks
    Big game player. 2 assists against City for me and not even surprised.
    Massive differential
    Cons: where is he really playing long term? He wasn't playing in the hole against City. Lucas was injured though.
    Fixtures
    Sahin factor
    9.5m

    1. Got both, keeping both.

      Bale has awesome fixtures and plays much better with Adebayor in the team.

      Gerrard has harder fixtures on paper but Liverpool tend to perform better against the big sides and he is likely to move into the front 3 when Lucas, Allen and Sahin are all available.

      1. Interesting. Only nit I'll pick is moving into the front three, while I'd love that I can't see how it's possible. Do you reckon as the most advanced midfielder of the three?

        Sterling?......Suarez.......Borini
        ...................Gerrard
        ...........Allen.........Sahin

        For the time being perhaps?

        1. Until Lucas gets back I would expect that. When Lucas is back then feck knows.

        2. Sterling won't become a regular yet.

          Sahin won't have been signed on loan to sit on the bench and Lucas and Allen are certs to make the team, so Gerrard simply has to move into the front 3 as Rodgers won't have the balls to drop him (unless when rested occasionally).

          Gerrard was prolific a few seasons ago from the right and I can see him getting plenty of game time there again (or on the left) while Sterling is kept as an impact sub and for cup games.

          1. OK I put a question mark around Sterling as you say, but not expecting Gerrard to move into the front three because he's not the fastest. Again I'm not a fan so I'm just going off less games than you might have watched but I always thought Gerrard was better in the centre (drifting right perhaps). He did play in the hole in preseason and has been used just off the striker quite a while back too. When he played on the right in the past, was that in midfield in a 4-4-2? Cos that's quite a lot deeper.

            Just want to know how much threat from open play he has.

            1. At the very least, while Lucas is out (could be a few weeks apparently) where do you reckon he'll play?

              1. While Lucas is out I'd expect Gerrard to play in the hole with Sahin and Allen behind as I don't think Rodgers would trust Gerrard to give enough defensive cover.

    2. I think if you already got him than you might as well keep as the fixtures are getting better and better.

    3. Sell 2, keep 1 for a few weeks?

    4. I was expecting big things from Gerrard but luckily swapped him out for Hazard before the first game and I'm quite chuffed with that.
      Bale has actualy been playing ok and with the slightest luck would have 2 goals by now.

    5. What's the 3rd Gerrard pro again?.....
      You know what to do 8-)

      1. Ahahaha valour. I'm worrying if I have nil points I might not have any valour left soon, lol.

    6. UUh I see WC active, Than I would not keep either, but I would get Ade for Tott cover. Id look at Stevie g on GW6or 7

      1. Sensible advice, might look at that, though fixtures really don't put me off Stevie (such baaa playing the champions just now). Just his position.

    7. Keep Bale
      Ditch Gerrard

  7. hi guys who to play this week noble (h ful) or carzola (a liv)
    thanks..

    1. Cazorla. If you spell his name right he would be a lot happier and score more :)

      1. maybe . ta

  8. Eden Hazard is rising faster than?.....

    1. ...me..when Daisy Duke washes my car in her bikini.

      1. :)

        I knew you would get in on this

    2. Nice grav.

  9. A)
    Friedel Henderson
    Vidic Rangel Hangeland Demel Fonte
    Pienaar Michu El Ahmadi Bale Valencia
    Tevez RVP Graham
    +1.5M

    B) Krul Henderson
    Rangel Hughes Cuellar Demel Ridgewell
    Pienaar Michu HBA Hazard Kaca
    RVP Tevez Adebayor.
    +0.7M

    Have the potential to get Torres in.
    Which team is better long term, To go for B it would be a wildcard.

    Want to catch the price rises

    1. Do you think hughes can keep starting place ?
      Awesome team bdw

      1. I think so yes. Otherwise there is Wilkinson at stoke as a 4.5M

    2. And why not torres for adeba ?

      1. Just because he isn't playing this week, I will bring in Torres for GW4.

        1. smart, but torres rising

    3. dude, we have same WC teams :) ))

      1. except i have zabaleta and you ridgewell

        1. You reckon it is a good strategy going forward, I think mid price defenders are good value.

          1. yep i was thinking about zab and his potential risk

            mid and forward for all season long ;)

  10. Repost

    How long will Hughes keep starting place in Fulham ? Is he rotation risk ?

    1. He's captain so will probably keep his place.

    2. Hangeland is captain.

  11. Can people really see Hazard continuing this form? I'm skeptical as we've often seen new players make bright starts at clubs only for their game to level off a bit. He's a special player, but he will still get plenty of 2 pointers, especially when the Champions League starts. Let's not also forget that Chelsea have had an easy start to the season, fixture wise.

    I don't have him as opted for Cole/Lampard/Torres pre season and having already done Lamps to Kagawa in GW2, I will just keep Fernando as my offensive cover instead of wildcarding/points hits to get in a player that a) has no fixture this week, and b) highly unlikely to keep up recent scores.

    1. I disagree, I think he is the next big player.

    2. He won't keep getting 2-3 assists a game so no. Classic case of people chasing points

      1. its not chasing points..its just knowing hes a must in every team, ignoring pride and paying the premium if u havent got him in already. Makes sense to get him in.

    3. It's inconceivable that he keeps up this level of form in terms of FPL points, he'd have beaten RVP's total from last year by Christmas if that were going to happen - but he does look the biggest threat in a team that look like scoring goals, and given that no other expensive mid (with the possible exception of kagawa) is firing it seems logical to have him in your team perhaps? I don't have him yet, but I suppose I will in the near future.

    4. Continuing this form? No
      Unless you see him assisting 72 times..

      1. + 4 more ;)

  12. Well done to Scotland on the amount of medals they won in the Olympics. If only we were an independent country the English would stop calling us British and we would receive our due recognition. The English arent so quick to call us British if we lose!!

    1. Be quite and go and fry a Mars bar you ;-)

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        1. I'm Scottish Sulk. Don't get too offensive based on one comment.

          1. haha, sorry. just some people think they know everything! back to footie. oh wait....;)

            1. the best thing the Scots do Sulk is rile up the English :-)

        2. The only way they won medals were by training in England I bet...

          1. aw sure if a foreign athlete bring his missus shopping in London for a day ye wud claim hes british!!

        3. Sorry Sulk - I know it was intended as banter but that had the potential to offend a lot of people for a wide variety of reasons.

      2. ye . torres or tevev .

    3. ahh, i love just poking a little provocative comment in there and sitting back with popcorn in hand and watch!!

  13. Rafael or hangeland?

  14. why does everything think Ivanovic will be dropped? Whilst not the best defender he does have a good scoring record.

    Who would replace him?

    1. That Cesar guy.

    2. Azpilchecthuca...

      The new guy.

  15. Anybody else got both Tevez and RVP? If so, who have you decided to captain?

    1. Tevez, both are good shouts though.

      1. Me. Undecided but home adv means a lot, as shown by (c) stats on home page so far. I'll prob go Carlos, all else being equal, but...

    2. Going for RVP, with Southamptons still new to the premier league defence I just dont see how they are going to cope against someone of RVP's class.

    3. The home one, makes it simper.

    4. Cheers lads. Not sure if it's my gut telling me to go RVP or the fact that he cost 13 mil

  16. Sorry to ask about Wigan defence again but when Beausejour comes back what happens to Figueroa? Does he go back into centre defence or drop to the bench?

    1. Conflicting opinions on Wigan forums. Some say Figueroa will be dropped as he is naturally not a CB, others say Alcaraz will be dropped.

      1. Alcaraz is their best player though?

        1. Yeah. I think so too. Figueroa is not bad either. I'm not sure tbh.

        2. it's hard to escape that fact

  17. Best defence consisting of maximum 5mil defenders?

    1. Williams, S Taylor, Rafael, Hangeland, Mertesacker

    2. Santon, Boyce, Rangel, Cuellar, Hughes

    3. And you said "lol what" to everyone elses' posts?

      :roll:

  18. Do people think Hazard could go over 9.0 mil by Saturday??
    Also Barfa, Yaya or Bale for this week??

    1. Guessing you mean 10? Yes he could.
      Give Bale one more chance.

    2. i promise u he'll be over 9mil by saturday

    3. Hoorah for the boring dumb troll

  19. Evs
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    • Has Moderation Rights

    Just come back from hols and got more red arrows than the RAF ?! :-(

    Clark getting a red didn't help, oh and Rooney.

    I know finding myself not wanting to take a hit but can't fund a Rvp 1.2m short.

    I'm looking for alternate striking options, and considering maybe cisse or Ba?

    Any thoughts / alternate options
    (not ade yet)

    1. Ba for sure with his upcoming fixtures. No one else has shined really.

    2. At least you didn't captain him :(

    3. Jelavic?

  20. Nice article but Sahin would not be a replacement for song he plays farther forward and with the likes of Cazorla, The Ox and Walcott all playing far forward i couldn't see him playing where he is great. I believe Mourinho actually preferred liverpool whereas his agent wanted a move to Arsenal but he should be a good option regardless.

    1. Mourinho is friends with Rodgers and I think that's why he wanted Sahin to go there.

  21. Pick two out of these??

    Michu, Pienaar, Yaya

  22. Could be a LOT of goals in Liverpool v Arsenal IMO. Two teams built quite similarly IMO, mobile front three, technical middle three (esp with Sahin joining), both play quite high lines defensively. Arsenal defence has improved under Bould though while Skrtel and Agger seem to have stepped back.

    Might have an Arsenal 5 Chelsea 3 classic on our hands here.

    1. Yeah .. it could easily be 0-0 though with Arsenal tightening up and struggling to score.

      Hoping for an exciting match though.

  23. Friedel, (Federici),
    Zabaleta, Cuellar, Clyne, Demel, (Ivanovic),
    Bale, Yaya, Pienaar, (Mata, Guthrie),
    Rooney, Tevez, Graham. (0 in bank)

    A) Rooney -> Ade for free

    B) Rooney -> RVP, Mata -> Michu for -4?

    But I will almost surely be WCing next week so is there any point in taking a hit now?

  24. debating a WC as I didn’t plan carefully enough, thoughts?

    Vorm – Jussi

    Rafael – Hangeland – Baines – Clyne – Mc Cartney

    Kagawa – Pienaar – Dyer – Nolan – Kacanikilic

    Tevez – RVP – Graham

    with 4.5m in the bank with a few changes to be made…

  25. kaca vs el ehemedi?
    who is better?

    and best newcastle def?

    1. I'd take El Ahmadi.

      S Taylor if we don't sign a centre back this week, Santon if we do.

      1. if a newcastle defender who could provide me with points say for that odd goal or assist?
        still staylor mate?

  26. is it a risk not going for a united defensive player?
    when my defence looks like this now--->

    staylor,ashley cole,chico,clichy,demel?

    right now keeper is degea..but thinking of changing to vorm

    thoughts please? :)

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  • Davies
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