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Sunday Dugout Discussion

20 November 2011 1173 comments
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After yesterday’s Premier League bonanza of eight games, today we have to settle for just a single fixture. It’s a potential cracker though, as Chelsea take on Liverpool at Stamford Bridge. The Dugout Discussion opens it’s doors for the short shift, and the team news is in…

Chelsea XI: Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Cole, Ramires, Mikel, Lampard, Mata, Drogba, Malouda.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Enrique, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Adam, Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy, Suarez.

The headline news concerns the names that don’t appear on those team sheets. Three players that cost their respective clubs a total of over £100m in 2011 all feature on the bench. Chelsea opt for Didier Drogba over former Liverpool star Fernando Torres, and Liverpool leave out Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing in favour of Craig Bellamy and Maxi Rodriquez.

Elsewhere, David Luiz and Florent Malouda get the nod ahead of Alex and Daniel Sturridge respectively.

Join us in the Dugout Discussion chatroom to follow all the action.

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  1. unoaime
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who's everyone shipping Suarez out for then?

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    1. exammy
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      Helgusson or Sturridge, cant make my mind up

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    2. MAD
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      Klasnic klasnic he's your man... if he can't do it... no one can!

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    3. heartsattack
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      I'm sick of him now. Just done Helgusson and Baines in with Suarez and R Taylor out.

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    4. SC not pearls before swine
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      Chicharito or Odemwingie if he's fit

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      1. Cardiff Kopite
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        Ba.

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        1. GoonSquad
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          I'd look at Ba too, or Sturridge.

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    5. J0E
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      tempted by dzeko or balotelli...may not play, but when they do they tend to get nice scores.

      Probably go for Klasnic...great fixture and form,....but chico is another tempted.

      the buck toothed nazi is out of my team tho that's for sure.

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  2. Bsal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    given al habsi
    enrique brown richards rtaylor caulker
    vdv silva lampard walters pilkington
    rvp bendtner bA

    any suggestion for the transfer?

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    1. Forest4Life
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Get out given or R taylor. Like mids and most of defense. You need spurs cover m8

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      1. Cruicky
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        VDV.

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        1. Forest4Life
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          More spurs cover

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    2. Feanor
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Al Habsi -> Vorm.

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  3. Manani
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    helguson for graham for this week FT.
    good move?

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    1. Mull
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      Graham has just played Liverpool and Utd, in the next few weeks they are playing AVL, bla, FUL, new. Not bad fixtures.

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      1. Manani
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        augero,RvP, graham.
        looks like i am keeping my forward for the next few GW then

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  4. Optimus.
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    cfctom was a bit off with his prediction 🙂

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/11/18/key-battles-gameweek-twelve/comment-page-2/#comment-2230976

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      f*cking chump

      wish i could have been sat next to him at the bridge so i could go AAAAHHHHHHHHH right in his face at the end

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    2. Somalion
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ha bless him at least he's confident in his moronic beliefs.

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  5. CFCTom
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    We are looking good this season, I think we will qualify for the Champions League and certainly win at least one trophy this year. I'm confident the people at the club know what they're doing and I think there are no major changes needed to the squad, we've definetely got a competant manager at the helm. The players are playing a style which they are comfortable with and is right for the Premier League. Mikel is a good player and adept at playing 'the Makelele role', John Terry has got pace to burn and uses it well, Luiz really wants to and likes to defend and we are going to make something of this season for sure. AVB's capture for £13 mill was money well spent. It was the correct decision to fire Ancellotti and Hiddink should not be brought in at any point, especially not with immediate effect. Clubs are really worried about playing us and see Stamford Bridge as a place they just wont get three points. Torres was a steal at £50 mill and I'm so optimistic about the rest of the season. It would be foolish to stock up on players who are in line to play us as they just wont get the returns. All in all, Chelsea are looking good.*

    *Relevant only in opposite world.

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    1. Forest4Life
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Top 6 City, Spurs, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool in that order

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      1. Cardiff Kopite
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        I'd go: City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool & Spurs to fight it out for 5th.

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      2. Breadbin
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        That sounds like the kind of prediction another person, who's name won't come to me, makes 😛

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      3. Cruicky
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        Spurs above United?

        Agree about the rest but steady on.

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        1. Frazek
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          +1. There are bandwagons, and stupid bandwagons. Spurs third, though! 🙂

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      4. Shakey
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        looooooooooooooool

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      5. Declan
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        Spurs 2nd 😆

        Citeh Utd Chelsea Arsenal Spurs Liverpool

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      6. Breadbin
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        Closet Spurs fan. 2 comments on the bounce.

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    2. Somalion
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      Haha was thinking you had properly leapt off the deep end before the opposite world bit.

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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    4. gruffyboy
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      You had me until the John Terry comment!

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    5. Breadbin
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You forgot about Ashley Cole not successfully dribbling past a player in this calendar year.

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    6. Attila the Bum
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      You're going to finish below Newcastle. Face the inevitable.

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      1. The Light Knight
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        hello attila. haven't seen you around lately. do you think ba and ben arfa will be newcastles front pair for a while

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Depends on Best's fitness, I think they will be the front two for the next couple. Thought Ben Arfa played pretty well against City, bloody unlucky he hit the post too.
          Long term hard to say, Pardew seems to like Best and Best does work his socks off, in terms of ability definitely Ben Arfa and Ba are the better players, so I think eventually they will become the main partnership.
          Best does offer a more traditional target man type role though, which is useful.

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          1. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            50 multiplier ben arfa, with him yakubu and adebayor still to come i could have done a doosra

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Ooooooooooo unlucky! I thought I was on for a decent one, turned out pretty mediocre again.

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          2. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
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            cool thanks just considering hatem as a way in to newcastle attack for the decent runn in a couple of weeks

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Not a bad option at all, especially considering Obertan and Marveaux are injured so he should be relatively safe for starts either as a forward or a winger.

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    7. David Davros
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Its funny because only a couple of weeks ago were you on here stroking about all your players and going on how you'd win the league?

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    8. GoonSquad
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      U need to get out of ur mom's basement and out into the light. Chelski are shite, other than Sturridge, Torres, and Mata. Defense is miserable, so is Mikel.

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      1. Shakey
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        There's always one...

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  6. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/11/20/sunday-dugout-discussion-36/comment-page-9/#comment-2241776

    just read this, made me chuckle

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  7. div
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Vorm, Ruddy
    Enrique, Jones, ShawX, Raylor, Naylor.
    Silva,VDV, Drenthe, Ramsey, Ferguson.
    Rooney, Adebayor, Augero

    Any thoughts on transfer this week, I know I need to get Ferguson out but any other...

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    1. Forest4Life
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Maybe Taylor to brown. Like rest

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    2. Manani
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      get RvP.
      ramsey>plinkington
      Ronney>RvP

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      1. Forest4Life
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Oh yeah and GET RVP

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  8. weeurquahrt
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    hi ladies . Right what you reckon the qualy score will be and yes anorak l mean you

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    1. Mull
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on VDV and Bale tomorrow, if they get two points each I would say 52

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    2. Breadbin
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      Mid to late 40's, assuming a few of players do well tomorrow.

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  9. Scratch
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Looking to free up some cash by swapping Lescott to a budget defender.
    Have Westwood, Vorm and Simpson in there already.

    So who's the best budget option?

    Wilkinson, Neil Taylor, Caulker, Monk, Stephen Kelly, McAuley, Tierney...

    Thinking Caulker or Kelly.

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    1. Corrigan
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Naylor

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  10. Forest4Life
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Great day for people like me with no chelsea liverpool players starting Come on spurs

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    1. Cruicky
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      Yep.

      No clean sheets for Enrique, Terry, Cole etc. no points for Suarez, Lampard, Mata. Sturridge scoring only blip to show.

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      1. Forest4Life
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Cant wait for my 3 spurs players 2moro

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    2. Breadbin
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      SPURS4LIFE 😉

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      1. Forest4Life
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Lol well Dawson is my fave player in Epl and not just cuz he came from our academy. Soo underrated

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  11. Hect.OR 98th
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    John Terry getting a bit of a pasting on 606.

    Captain, leader, liability.

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    1. Corrigan
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bona fide tw*t

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  12. Optimus.
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    bad week for mildfielders this week apart from a couple

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    1. NeedleVor
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Hold your horses....... Charles N'Zogbia hasn't played yet.

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  13. NeedleVor
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    I can't stop eating cake..... yet my abs still appear to be in perfect order. Result.

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    1. Breadbin
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      Lucky bugger!

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  14. Crouch Potato!
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    How many goals and assists by defenders this weekend?

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  15. GMac1980
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    I wish i lived next door to Ashley cole so i could point and laugh when he arrived home this evening!

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    1. The Bandit
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      He will arrive in a car you will never afford and on his arm will be a bird you can only dream of. I wouldn't laugh too loudly. 😉

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  16. Moves Like Agger
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suarez ------>Klasnic/Helguson/Yakubu??
    De Laet ----> Baines
    -4 hit worth it?

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  17. shegull
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    http://www.hasandrevillasboasbeensackedyet.com/

    This 😀

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      LINK DOESN'T WORK

      bit the chelsea defence

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        like*

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      2. udit
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        it does 😕

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          LMAO

          i didn't even click on it

          assumed it was a wind up! love that someone has made that site

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          1. shegull
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            14 years, 5 months ago

            AVB should consider promoting Luiz to forward position.

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          2. udit
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            14 years, 5 months ago

            I think they made it in the summer only, immediately after he was appointed.:)

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            1. udit
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              urgh...... 🙂

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  18. Kevin
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    Damn, have Sturridge first sub. So stupid, but I thought he might get a few minutes (which he did!) and everyone else were starters.

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    1. Frazek
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Have faith in the Studge. Proper quality striker, maybe Chelski's only decent forward these days.

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  19. Cardiff Kopite
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    Anyone else dreading the inevitable?

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    1. Cardiff Kopite
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      LOL, not that.

      If you type RVP and injury into Google it finds About 2,110,000 results in 0.22 seconds.

      I dread having to think about one of my strikers again.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Never dread the inevitable. After all, it is inevitable.

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    3. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      What that I get very drunk and fall asleep in my own urine?

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      1. Holy See
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Ah who hasn't been there?

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  20. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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    Opinion please.... If one to be kept, Mata or Nani?

    They both will be at home next week after a mid-week CL game.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Mata adds limited valuer, Nani has far more points potential.

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    2. Optimus.
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      im thinking of doing nani to walters and mata to lamps

      if nani plays mid week i think ill ship him

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      1. Leysh
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Lampard 😆

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          I assume you didn't watch him today then, about as dangerous as cotton wool.

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    3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
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      More I think.. Form & fixture. I'm quite certain to get rid Nani. Decision would be easier if he plays mid-week game.

      Lampard was silent today. I think he still managed to get into the box often but none important action to remember. I will still keep Mata for Wolves game and hope he could do some damage. He was in good positions many times tonight but Liverpool didn't give him much space and time. He almost grabbed that Sturridge's goal if he was more advanced.

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      1. Breadbin
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        *advance - a bit slow in general.

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  21. Scroobius Mac
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    Sturridge must start the Wolves game now right?
    I didn't actually think he was very good but when nobody else is scoring you've got to surely.
    One player from that game getting me 5 points - happy with that.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      His price-to-performance ratio must be up there with the best. Studge/RvP/Helguson forward line?

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        Studge/RVP/Adebayor for me at the moment. Ade has done amazingly for me really, 8.0 was a serious undervalue that I lapped up from the start.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          Agreed, but he needs to pick it up a bit. 10 points in last three isn't great.

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          1. Scroobius Mac
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            6 PPG overall. He's not been explosive but he's been consistent. Rooney and Suarez have scored less in the same three.

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            1. Frazek
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Fair point, those two have been disasters lately. But DVD nicks points off Ade.

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        2. Optimus.
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          same

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  22. JoeySamSam
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So what will the bonus points be for the Chelsea v pool, and united v swans matches

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Johnson 3 Maxi 2 Sturridge 1. Hernandez 3 Jones 2 Vidic 1

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      1. J0E
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        judging by recent bps for swansea games that are low scoring I wouldn't be surprised to see dyer getting one.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          That would please me snice he subs in on Woodgate no show.

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          1. J0E
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            and me should VDV be a no show. first sub for me as well.

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            1. Frazek
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              • 15 Years
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              Gambled on DVD (c). Sweating Jonty, sweating.

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  23. SammyD
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    on a positive note I thought dad had a good game today

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  24. Mole
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    • 16 Years
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    Liverpool's problem for years has been their away form.

    This season
    Home: Played 6, 10 points
    Away: Played 6, 12 points

    Tough away games as well Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Stoke, WBA and Everton.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      mad eh

      we're drawing too many at home

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  25. Holy See
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    Must be tough to be a Chelsea supporter. Or a Chelsea defender. Jeez Luiz, what a defender he ain't. Malouda wasn't bad today tho.

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  26. jamsiep
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    That total liability David Luiz managed to keep the great Luis Suarez pretty quiet, eh?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      2-1

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    2. hillbillypete
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      looks to be sent off everytime i see him play.

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    3. smuggs
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      suarez ran the chelsea played all over shop and pissed them off the whole game they will be well happy to be up against a poor mans suarez in doyle next

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  27. CFCTom
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    Using scouse logic, Torres cost us -£12,950,000,000. Minus 12.95 billion is not bad imo.

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    1. Forest4Life
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      Still got ripped off

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  28. Manani
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    this is my best week yet. in terms of total score.
    56pts. with VDV and BAE.
    even I got 60pts. in total, it's my best week

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  29. Optimus.
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    48 with ade vdv to play

    could be tight to qualify for paddy power cup with that

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
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      44 with VDV and BAE left here, not fancying my chances in my first attempt of doing the cup

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    2. Fray Bentos
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      i'd say you'll qualify comfortably with that - week average is 27 so far

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        The FFS average would be much higher. We all have RVP (c).

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    3. Scroobius Mac
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      Think you should get in with that. I'm on 51 with the same to play, assuming you are due 9-11 BPs you should be fine.

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    4. Declan
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      Tight? No chance, you'll be in the draw!

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    5. shegull
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      35, VDV to play, RvP 6 bonus to come. Not going to qualify :/

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    6. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      40 with just VDV to come and RVP BP's. Out of the cup.

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    7. Breadbin
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      Same score, VDV & Bale to play. No trouble getting in with that.

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  30. kaz 96
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    59 with atm subs, vdv and bps to come

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    1. Fray Bentos
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      I'm so glad I know this

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      1. Holy See
        • 16 Years
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        Might one day save your life...

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