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12 February 2012 1863 comments
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With yesterday’s results overshadowed by the now infamous non-handshake at Old Trafford, the Dugout Discussion opens today for what will hopefully be a controversy-free day of football. Having been displaced at the summit of the Premier League, Manchester City travel to Aston Villa where a draw will see them climb back to the top. Before that we have a Black Country derby to enjoy, as Wolves aim to drag their rivals West Brom in to the relegation scrap, and the Baggies try to increase their breathing space from it. The team news is in…

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Foley, Johnson, Bassong, Ward, Doyle, Edwards, O’Hara, Jarvis, Ebanks-Blake, Fletcher.

West Brom XI: Foster, Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Ridgewell, Odemwingie, Morrison, Scharner, Mulumbu, Thomas, Fortune.

Mick McCarthy names an attacking side which features a trio of strikers in Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, Kevin Doyle and Steven Fletcher. For the visitor’s, Liam Ridgewell makes his debut for West Brom at the expense of Nicky Shorey, and Paul Scharner starts ahead of Graeme Dorrans.

You can follow all the action as it happens in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which can be accessed right here.

Akers Richard or Akers, as he is known, has been regularly haunting this site since July 2008. He is young and foolish, take what he says with a pinch of salt. Follow them on Twitter

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  2. Mull
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    😆 at the Richard Dunne stat.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      ++++

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  3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    Bad luck to anyone who had Richards or Dzeko...Someone on here told me I was a complete fool to think Richards wasn't nailed on if fit, fair enough if he isn't fit today but I think the rotation risk realistically is far too strong to have anyone but Kompany when they're all fit. I have Lescott at the minute but may get worried when Toure gets back. Here's hoping Silva gets a few assists and some BP's today to boost the overall score!

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  4. Gaz Downright
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    I love the stats they put up there!

    All time EPL goals vs City

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    2. Keano 10 goals
    ...
    4. Bent 8 goals
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    6. Dunne 7 goals (6 own goals) haha!!

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    1. Mílanista
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      🙂

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  5. PL Ball
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    Dalgish: "When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."

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    1. jimnastics
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      I grew up in the late 80s / early 90s with a begrudging but deep-seated respect for Liverpool, their fans, players, managers... everything they stood for. Suarez and Dalglish have practically destroyed that, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

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      1. The Bandit
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        You'll never talk alone....

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      I think Dalglish's comments were lost in translation previously.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7vktZcPVPw

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  6. FORCA INTER
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    richards benched?

    CMON villa!

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  7. Granville
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    What price is Gary Gardner for the first goal?

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    1. Granville
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      Gary Gardner

      18/1 first goal
      13/2 anytime

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      good shout. hes got a decent shot

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      1. Granville
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        Shit, didn't get on in time. Had my 10er deposited.

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          oops

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    3. Back to Back Ballacks
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      18/1

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  8. falcon utd
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    richards on da bench?

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  9. blue cheese
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    Inter trailing 0-1 at home to last place Novara !! 😯

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    1. Crazy Joe
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      Yep, coupon in the bin on the 1st match, booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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      1. Crazy Joe
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        But it's ok since Dzeko will come off the bench to score, that's a Crazy Joe guarantee!

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    2. Mílanista
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      Full time. Hahahahahaha! Novara do the double over Inter.

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      1. FORCA INTER
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        fuc*K IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

        alritght i am focused at villas win now

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        1. Mílanista
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          Losing to Novara this week, losing 4-0 to Roma last week. My bet on Ranieri not lasting the season is looking good.

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      lets load up on marseille for UCL fantasy 😀

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  10. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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    My tactic of doubling up on man city players since gw 24 only seems to be half working.
    Last week Kompany was injured, this week Richards out.
    It's amazing how with this fpl stuff can collapse all around you in a couple of weeks.

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    1. sotothemightygreek
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      Tell me about it. Thankfully a City clean sheet would still be a differential for me as most of my rivals either have just Richards or no City defenders. Fingers crossed.

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      I doubled on Hart and Kompany. Paid the premium price but it is way cheaper than having Kun and Silva

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  11. Gaz Downright
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    Keano! get in! ha

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  12. Balotellitubbies
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    A Kompany goal would go down nicely today, may even be a bit of a differential given his recent absences.

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    1. Bad Pen
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      Aye, I'd not say no!

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  13. tm245
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    New-ish topic: does anyone here know of a site that allows for managers to draft their teams so each squad is unique?  I am struck by how at this time of the season h2h matches boil down to two or three players and one is left rooting against your own squad if your oppt has captained a player you have not.  I get the concept of differentials but just imagine if your entire squad was a differential based on threads and conversations from FFS, your own analysis, instinct/gut moves, personal binkys who never actually produce loads of points (Ashley Young was mine for years because he was just cool to watch storming the ramparts down the wing), booze-fueled moves on a Friday night, and the like.  You could trade players, pick up free agents in a waiver process, 10 teams in a mini league would take up the top 150 players and push us to really assemble our squads, plus make the captain selection massive every week (or that much easier if you are the one with RVP)...

    Maybe I am being very American here (I will shake hands and apologize for that comment later) but with US fantasy sports most sites are set up this way.  The FPL values could be used as a frame of reference if a salary cap was to be enforced, i.e. your draft of players would have to fit within the cap so you might take a cheap player you like before but I am wondering if FPL would not want this because it might reduce traffic on its own site.  Or maybe they feel the market approach is more popular for users?  Pardon the rambling but just wondering if people knew of any sites like this out there.

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    1. Barry
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      Thats NBA Fantasy game talk.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      I am not been a smart alec but I don't understand your point.

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      1. tm245
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        Having self identified, I am aware that it is NBA/NFL/MLB of me. Are there any sites where each manager drafts a team from a pool of players? No player would be chosen by the same team, hence every h2h matchup would be composed of entirely different players.

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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          Oh I know what you mean now. There was one where you could only pick from a pool of players.
          A soccer game.
          Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
          Maybe if you email this website they might know of one.

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    3. Cruicky
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      US Sports - (NFL I think you are referring to?, where it's each player is unique) are very different to Football.

      You'd have to arrange that yourself with 9 others if you'd want a differential league.

      I understand what you're saying, but I can see many losing interest...

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    4. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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      Thats actually how fantasy football started, im thinking back to the days of skinner and baddiel. I was in a league with 10 others and we basically auctioned off the players if multiple teams wanted him so they ended up only being owned by one manager. Would be mighty difficult to run now given its popularity.

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    5. Balotellitubbies
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      99% of Americans love statistics.

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    6. A.
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      The Times Online used to run this sort of league, I'm not sure if anywhere else still does.

      Look up SimPrem actually.

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      1. tm245
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        Thanks for the look. Balotellitubbs might have said it best.

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    7. Captain Robert Hatch
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      I get you 100%

      I'd rather have a draft style approach if playing with 9 other buddies for sho

      Last season my pals and I did a 3 players are "owned" rule, had to be designated before hand. I had Tevez, Nani and Bale to his Carroll, Rooney and Lampard

      worked OK but got way nutty when it was justified dropping Lampard or Bale last season, def would like to find a way to run a draft league with ease

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      1. tm245
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        Agreed. Facilitating it would be a nightmare with gentlemen's agreements the rule of law. Will look into the Times game but damn that moral conundrum.

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    8. Back to Back Ballacks
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      there is a game, ask one of the mods here they did a review of it last year.

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      1. Jack Frost
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        Please get back to work on Season 9........ love, fans.

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    9. Jafooli
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      The Times does that and it's excellent......but have to pay Murdoch. But it is a very good format..

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    10. Ibracadabra
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      I play in a league like this - it is run by SimPrem

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  14. Torreslove
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    zabeleta to get a knock and richards to come on before 30 mins? i'm liking that

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    1. Viper
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      I'm not! Shawcross on the bench!

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  15. Viper
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    I want to get in Ba for Fletcher, in order to do so I need to make up 1.0m..

    Options are:

    BAE -> Evans

    Sess -> Taarabt/5.8 mid

    Thoughts?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      2nd. DO NOT make same mistake i made 2 weeks and sell BAE

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      1. Viper
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        He has awful fixtures though & I don't see many returns for him!?

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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          That is what i thought. 2 weeks and 18pts later, who is laughing. Not me. Their fixtures are great after GW28 again.

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  16. Granville
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    I'm sure Liverpool owners have their hands all over the statement of contrition today.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/sports/soccer/liverpools-luis-suarez-refuses-to-shake-the-hand-of-uniteds-patrice-evra.html?_r=2

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    1. Jafooli
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      ......and their sponsors.....

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  17. Mílanista
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    Granville, since you're about is there any chance of you bringing in a temp replacement for Mark to give us all a lovely scoutcast? Bit of payback for when you were away 😉

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    1. Mull
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      Make sure he gets a better replacement than the one last time. Bored everyone to tears.

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    2. Granville
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      Thinking about it, much will depend on my schedule this week.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        I'm available If you need me?!

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          Chris Glover would be interesting IMO. OR standard Andy/ Akers why not. And please ask Andy why he is doing so badly this year 😀 Provocation in order to have interesting podcast 😉

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  18. kidblast
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    Okay. The Avengers. I get all the other heroes like Hulk, Iron Man and Thor etc.. but what exactly does Black Widow bring to the table?

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    1. DaveZubie
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      Sexyness!!

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    2. Jukesy
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      She's the intel isn't she?

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    3. DLL18
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      Scarlett Johansson in a catsuit, what's not to like?

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      1. The Light Knight
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        the catsuit 😉

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  19. St Mirnoff
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    Thank Christ... Milner on left flank instead of defensive mid...

    Hopefully he can return me more than the predictable 2 points!!

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  20. McDog
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    Heskey on the wing according to the formation on Sky?

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      RM. Classic management

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  21. DV8R
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    Lille 4-5 Bordeaux

    What a game!

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    1. blue cheese
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      Wow !!

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  22. Bad Pen
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    I'd like Silva to go ballistic today, however not sure I can see it happening. Pretty safe line-up from Mancini.

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  23. OPTA FPL
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    Why the hell Richards doesnt play??

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    1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
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      I was talking about Clichy but seems I was right when I said Heart and Komp were the only nailed on in Citeh defence.

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      1. SC not pearls before swine
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        And Kolarov! He's played the last two games! He'll never be rotated again! He's the best left back on the planet and he takes corners. And this is in no way hyperbole

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      2. OPTA FPL
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        me too

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    2. Mull
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      Because I told Mancini not to play him so that I can get ShawX off the bench.

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  24. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
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    Dear Manchini,

    Please leave Clichy on the bench, McClean is my first sub.

    Lots of love,

    JimmyDeemo

    Xx

    Everyone +1 this and maybe it will happen or do you think the kisses were too much?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      Ah he is Italian they lash a good few on both cheeks 🙂

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      he is a big softy under that coat and scarf, i am sure he will appreciate the kisses

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    3. Granville
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      Clichy is dead in terms of Fantasy Football now. City's fullbacks aren't worth having.

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      1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
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        Oh don't worry I'm fixing that soon, what you think to going Heart Komp Granville?

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        1. Granville
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          Kompany is enough. Hart is way too much to spend on a goalie.

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          1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
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            Cheers for the reply.I really don't know what to do with my defence. Thought doubling on Citeh was the way.

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          2. FPL Daniel
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            I don't agree. He is matching Silva points atm and a lot of mids are performing too, so we could find a replacement

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            1. FPL Daniel
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              Reply about Hart btw

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  25. Spike ⚽️
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    Surprised to see Nzogbia benched. He was Villa's best player last match. He obviously had too much to say on Twitter

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    1. The Bandit
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      Apart from his assist his crossing was awful

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      1. Spike ⚽️
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        Still Villa's best player on the day tho (Keane apart). Just goes to show how bad Villa is

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    2. Granville
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      McCleish wanted some workers in there, N'zogbia doesn't put in much effort.

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  26. COMH
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    Don't like to admit it but that City kit is smart.

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      i have not seen that away kit before, is it new or just me?

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      1. COMH
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        It's their 3rd kit. Think it's the same as last season but they changed the collar.

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      2. threeputt
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        geeting used to it now, but is it just me that finds the villa & City strips slightly difficult to distinguish (or am i just being colour blind ?)
        Also anyone else find it annoying that silva & aguero are very similar from the gantry ?

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  27. Mull
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    Anyone else finding it quite hard to distinguish between the two kits.

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    1. DLL18
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      Yeah I thought that too, from the wide view especially.

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      1. threeputt
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        that'll be a yes for me above then

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    2. Kagawa-san-mia
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      yes

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    3. Jimmers
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      Agreed - City's regular strip would be far easier to distinguish.

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    4. Back to Back Ballacks
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      City should have dark shorts n socks on, this sux

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    5. dierstraights
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      yes, its very frustrating

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  28. snowman
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    FFS richards and dzeko not playing! Guess least Taiwo to come in as well as moses if dzeko stays on bench

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    1. Bad Pen
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      Wouldn't be surprised if we see Dzeko at some point during this game.

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  29. Canadian Football
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    F U Mancini......

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    1. Mull
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      He's a nice bloke if he doesn't bring on Richards.

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  30. Bad Pen
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    Barry, what was that!

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    1. Kagawa-san-mia
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      Barry isnt a great passer,or footballer

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