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With template midfields and forward lines now commonplace, recent goals from Benoit Assou-Ekotto and Joleon Lescott demonstrated the value of points from our defenders as a method of boosting Fantasy ranks.

In this latest article for Members, we use Opta data and our own ICT Threat scores to examine the defenders who have presented the most potent threat so far, whilst discussing any worthy options who are potentially due improved returns before the season is out.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Granville
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    13 years, 10 months ago

    How does Antonini get a game, he's been rubbish every time I've seen him

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    1. Mílanista
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      I'm shocked he's playing.

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    2. CFCTom
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      He's not the most exciting player, but he keeps them ticking over, and he's the type of player they like. It's like how Jonny Evans keeps getting Man U games.

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  2. Granville
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    13 years, 10 months ago

    Let's see some Ox.

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    1. Declan
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      +1

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      Have to deal with injuries first!

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      1. Granville
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        You need to deal with Rosicky also.

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        1. COMH
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          He is a non entity. Not even a luxury player cos he isn't good enough for that. A liability.

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        2. AP
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          Rosicky, Arteta, Ramsey is so average. Thinking back to Cesc, Bergkamp, Pires etc.

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  3. Granville
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    Strange that the best 3 sides in England this year aren't in this tournament

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      Unfortunately we didnt deserve to be part of this tournament this year. Same with City. Gotta earn it.

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      1. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        I know, we never performed, too many youngsters and new players being bedded into the team at once.
        We're playing much better now.

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        1. Hate that rotation
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          True. Lets hope I never hear the word "rebuilding" for atleast another 5 years.

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    2. Nice1Cyrille
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      and the goons are getting a real lesson in why they're not in those top 3 tonight...

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    3. Menly
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      Debateable whether premiership clubs are up to the standard of the rest of Europe...

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      1. Granville
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        Sure they are. United, City and Spurs are 3 of the best sides in Europe at the moment.

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        1. Menly
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          How many club are in this best sides category? 😀
          No I'm kidding, but they all lack consistency...

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        2. Cheggers
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          13 years, 10 months ago

          No offence granville but that really is a stupid statement. If United and City were the best two teams in Europe, you would have got passed the group stage of the CL

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    4. Pratik
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      Hopefully the trio will kick some ass next year!

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    5. Puzzle
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      I think it's a fair chance all English teams will be out by the quarter-finals

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  4. Granville
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    Having not started the Ox and 2 subs used, Wenger's given himself no leeway to bring him on early.

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  5. Granville
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    13 years, 10 months ago

    Come on Wenger, bring on Arshavin!

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    1. Parm
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      More like bring off Antonini more like.

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    2. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah that Robin chap is terrible, get Arshavin on for him!

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    3. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Game over, I don't see any signs of a comeback here

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  6. Granville
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    13 years, 10 months ago

    Nocerino and Emmanuelson are top class in midfield, very impressed.

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Dont know how the heck emmanuelson adjusted so well to playing in centre mid. He was a left back at Ajax.

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      1. Granville
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        I know, but his pace get him away from players.

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  7. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Here comes the Ox. I bet he has an impact, stupid not to start him.

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      18/1 to score next goal!

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    2. Parm
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      +1 Well both you and I have him on Fantasy UCL so he better rip it up.

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  8. Granville
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    This time last year Spurs were knocking out Milan.

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      I think Spurs would have a good chance of knocking them out this year.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      now there is just chelsea left, could easily be no english teams in quarters

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      Spurs or Bale?

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Spurs.

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      2. Kagawa-san-mia
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        spurs, bale didnt score last season, crouch knocked them out, lennon pass crouch goal

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    4. Parm
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      And Bale was running riot while Arsenal were beaten by Brum and knocked out of the UCL.

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    5. Drip Doctor
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      Lol, at your tweet. Pathetic seeings as you didn't even make it through the group stages.

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  9. stilicho
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    I love it when a numbers game article re-assures me that my unsuccessful picks weren't entirely irrational.

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  10. stilicho
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    New post ladies and gents.

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  11. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Of the sides looking to get promoted for next season, does anyone think there is another potential Derby County, 11 pts in the whole season? I'd say Southampton could feature in that bracket

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    1. Parm
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Cardiff 🙂

      Well Cardiff won't even get promoted, they always lose in the play-offs(My mate has been to Wembley 4 times with Cardiff.....and they never won â— ).

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      1. Ryan
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        Mate that sucks. Especially when Swansea gets in first time, and takes the limelight as the first Welsh team to make the premier league

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        1. Parm
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          I invited him round to watch the Swans vs Arsenal game.

          It didn't go too well.

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          1. Ryan
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            Lol 😀

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  12. Ryan
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    13 years, 10 months ago

    Two questions

    1) Start Evans (nor) or Rangel (sto)

    2) Captain Rooney (nor) or Ba (WOL)

    Thanks in advance 🙂

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      1-Evans
      2-Ba

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    2. Jafooli
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      Good questions, difficult answers....I reckon both options in both questions are pretty even for decent pts return. Nice choice to have....either or for me.....sorry not much help...

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      1. Ryan
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        Yeah its a tough choice. Might become a gut thing or possible a tactical thing. So far I have Evans and Ba(c). I could look for the differential however as I imagine many will have those two in their teams with the armband on Ba

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  13. In Like Flynn.
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    So I'm Zenit, my second choice. I'm not too upset, I may have been more upset if I could remember what my first choice was. I imagine when I'm knocked out I'll have a better idea how it works. 😀

    Watch out Fuzzy I'm on the warpath.

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      See you at Dumbass Arena GW28.

      Just researched Shakhtar Donetsk's ground is called Donbass Arena.

      We have 2,000 seats reserved for away supporters. Be careful though, Donetsk is a tough town.

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      1. Elniñorules
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        😆 at Dumbass Arena.

        Are neutrals invited as well? Even if we're not Dumb...wait-for-it....asses 😕

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
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          13 years, 10 months ago

          Standing room only along the concourse ENR. but there is a support rail to rest that chest. 🙂

          I admit it, i am suddenly a fan of Donetsk.

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          1. Elniñorules
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            😡 I'm surprised you know so much info already! Wow.

            If we do end up having a Sports quiz for the managers on their different teams, I bet you'll own us 🙂

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              Where is Zenit?

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              1. @FuzzyWarbles
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                HA. Major disadvantage. I know where my club is!! Now i just need to learn who manages it and all the players. 🙂

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                1. In Like Flynn.
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                  😉

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      2. Zep
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        It's no Camp Nou... 😛

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
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          13 years, 10 months ago

          you have to rename your ground. Camp Nou Can Do.

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          1. Zep
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            Nou Can Do, I sold the naming rights to Mike Ashley... 😯

            He wants to call it Fat Camp!

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  14. In Like Flynn.
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    It's certainly gratifying to know that my smart balloting strategy paid off. 😀

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
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      that would imply i am a weak opponent sir!! that being said, glad i had the same idea!

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        I have learned from the L5 league and Wigan to me H2H leagues, there are no weak opponents on here.

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        1. Fratboy
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          🙂

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    2. Zep
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      I have to admit that I had no idea what I was doing in the selection process...

      In hindsight I was very lucky to get Barca considering there were 3 people above me who could easily have picked Barca as their first pick... which could easily have resulted in me being left with my random 3rd/4th pick... so well done for being a step ahead...

      Saying that though, the CL team names up against each will certainly not be indicative of the ease of each game: the lowest rank in my group is 31k, so definitely no easy games...

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Nope, nor me. Just took random less high profile teams. H2Hs really are just luck of the day. I have various H2H leagues. If I tried to play each team in each league I'd need four wildcards a week.

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
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          13 years, 10 months ago

          last week you chose a better captain, and your defense destroyed mine. you basically doubled my gw score. You may be the team to beat in the group ILF. whoever wins the first leg of you v pratik, i will have to root for to take both games. i need to beat up on the weak link, the 32nd ranked team in the league.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            A slice of luck there too Fuzzy, with Shawcross coming off my bench. I looked at the standard 3 for captain and happened on the one that got more than the others. Other weeks it's gone the other way.

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            1. @FuzzyWarbles
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              we are a huge rivalry in this. you with the Russian club, me the Ukranian. Your squad may have the class of Errol Flynn but mine has the brutality of a young Malcolm McDowell.

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    3. Pratik
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      I beg to differ, In fact I think we have too many smart people in our group.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        where is the 4th player, i am not familiar with him.

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        1. Pratik
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          I have seen Archie lurking a few times out here. He definitely has better things to do when compared to us!

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  15. applebonkers
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    samba!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Rumba! 🙂

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  16. applebonkers
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    not replacing fabregas, simple as that. they lost a heart and quickly scrambled together 3 kidneys. the wilshere injury was bad, but sh*t happens to all teams.

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    1. the axolotl
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      nail on head - no heart.

      missing a few other organs too to be fair, but most of all no heart

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      Nice analogy

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    3. The Bandit
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      Fabregas or no Fabregas is not the difference between a good team or a great team

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      1. applebonkers
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        it is when ramsey is the replacement

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    4. Granville
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      How can you replace Fabregas? It's the same as saying United didn't replace Ronaldo.

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      1. Hazard267
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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        How many points you on granville..? for champo league

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        1. Granville
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          408

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          1. Hazard267
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            13 years, 10 months ago

            how many you got for this week atm

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            1. Granville
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              45.

              But will be 41 with Gomez, Ronaldo, Valbuena, N'Koulou, Campagnaro left.

              Average

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      2. Somalion
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        Easy, sign Boselli. The man has enough heart for 3 teams easily.

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      3. applebonkers
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        haven't even tried though, i think that's the disappointing thing.

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        1. Drip Doctor
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          He tried in the Summer, problem is, we sold them (Cesc & Nasri) too late and didn't leave enough time to replace them.

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        2. applebonkers
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          that's a harsh thing to say actually, of course they tried to find someone, just nothing came to fruition after 2 windows. i think the fabregas situation is the worst one i can remember any manager being left with, even more so than ronaldo

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        3. Somalion
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          I think the problem is they Sold Fabs and brought in Fabs 0.5. I like Arteta as a player but he'll always be Fabregas Lite.

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          1. applebonkers
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            problem is arteta has had to play in wilshere's position all season, so it's gone fabregas to ramsey. with the minutes ramsey has had i'd put money on fabregas doubling him at least in terms of goal involvements

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            1. Somalion
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              I'd definitely agree with you. I kinda feel like Arteta could be making a much bigger impact if the team was in better nick. I think Arsene's policy of building a strong youth based side, while sound in theory and admirable, is becoming a major hindrance for the team as nowadays. There's not much point when the bigger teams are buying up plenty of talent. I honestly expected more to be spent this year from him if he really wanted to give it a decent shot but I think it'll have some very bad consequences if they don't solidify soon. If it continues as is I'd be willing to wager RVP will want out by Summer.

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    5. the axolotl
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      13 years, 10 months ago

      they'll be even worse when they lose the head (van persie) in the summer. they really will be knackered then.

      shame

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      They never replaced their balls - Vieira and Gilberto Silva.

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  17. applebonkers
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    ok this may bore people in which case i apologise, i don't even think it's delving too deep into things and making leaps of faith.
    chelsea, arsenal and man utd. chelsea and arsenal play 4-3-3 hybrids, the most advanced of the middle 3 imo has to either be a playmaker who chips in with the odd goal or a goal machine who chips in with the odd assist. chelsea used to have a peaking lampard screened by beastly mids like the old essien and ballack/makelele. arsenal used to have fabregas. both no longer have this player yet seem to try and play the same systems. for me the key is this most advanced player of the 3. if you don't have a special player there, don't bother with it.
    the only side who seem to be self-aware in this sense are man utd. they know they don't have this fabregas or a goal machine in the middle of their midfield so they don't bother, they opt for an extra striker instead. rooney then helps get a bit of the best of both worlds by doing his bit deeper at times but still being the centre forward they need. they have the welbeck, hernandez or berbatov to supplemnt rooney and make it work. also, and arguably more importantly, have the wide midfielders like valencia, young, nani and park to play in a 4 man midfield. right now arsenal have in gervinho and walcott and chelsea have mata and sturridge. so firstly even if arsenal scrapped ramsey as he was wasting the key position and put an extra striker in they arguably don't possess the wide midfielders who are good going backwards as well as forwards to make it work. then the big problem that whilst rvp could play the rooney role of dropping back a bit at times to compensate who then is the welbeck/hernandez/berbatov? chamakh? park? they haven't really bought for it, understandable as they don't play that system. chelsea have drogba, torres and sturridge, neither really looks to have the ability of rooney or RVP to drop deep and utilise those 'midifeld skils.' if chelsea did have that striker they could play a ramires right and (for now) malouda on the left, both with a bit of nouse when not in possession.

    OR the alternative to drastic changes arsenal could just splash out on this key player for the fabregas role, seeing as the entire rest of the team seems geared to the existing formation.
    AND chelsea could just pull their finger out and buy a natural winger or two allowing mata to move into the middle and have a crack at being this bearded fabregas.
    yes it's easy to say buy this one player but i think it's the absolute priority, the only priority. if you're not going to buy this key player then scrap the system. man utd don't have the player but most importantly they know it and have clearly planned for years for a slightly different more 4-4-2 like system.
    looking from the outside in it seems to be utd having more success fitting the system to the personnel as much as the other way round, or simply planning well in advance to work around it, whilst arsenal and chelsea are currently trying (and failing relative to their old standards) to fit the personnel into a set system.

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    1. 4vets
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      Simply excellent.

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    2. Mull
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Unleash the bearded Fabregas.
      Also who is this replacement Fabregas that Arsenal could buy? Surely they can't get anyone of his quality in their team as I doubt Europa league footy or worse will entice this player.

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      1. 4vets
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        Sneijder?

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        1. Flycroft
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          13 years, 10 months ago

          wages

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          1. 4vets
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            13 years, 10 months ago

            Yup... but Arse's board can't continue their stand if Arse are to remain a force... and that's a big "if".

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      2. applebonkers
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        i agree, it very very hard to find one, if so don't bother with one. take the plunge and start converting walcott/gervinho into a striker to play in front of rvp in preparation to buy a wide midfielder in the summer. Ox played centre mid for southampton, i'm sure he could evolve into a wide mid to play on the other side.

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
          • 16 Years
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          I'd try Walcott as a striker, like the way they used to play, he could go wide. He played as a striker for a lot of his career too, and tbh he can't get much worse.

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    3. Menly
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      Cracking post.

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    4. Flycroft
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      very good and interesting post. lack strong football knowledge so havent really got insight but i would certainly agree with the gist of what you're saying. it's a shame for arsenal because in song and wilshere (when fit) they have two VERY good DMs. if fabs was still there with those two behind him, arsenal would be so much stronger now. nasri on one wing and gervinho on the other, arsenal would be a force. unfortunately that's just dreamland

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    5. Piggs Boson
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      I agree. Torres is crap.

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    6. Gargamel
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      tldr

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        +1
        tl;dr

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Only shrooming Bonkers. I agree with this post, fine stuff.
          Controversially if I was Wenger I'd give the Ox a go as a striker, I think he could be deadly once he gets used to the position.

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      2. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        Sorry, I just thought I'd say that initially while I read it, to look cool.

        Anyway, that is an interesting post ab. I don't really know where to begin, but firstly I'd like to question the statement that United play a 4-3-3 hybrid. I think the conclusion you later reach is that they don't, so maybe it was just a slip of the keyboard. And because they don't, maybe their part in this text is a bit hard for me to understand.

        Going back to Arsenal I really agree, I think they're struggling massively to fill the void left after Fabregas and that this system might not work for them attacking wise against the better teams. We can sit here all night long talking about the false number nine RVP dropping down to help dictate play, but in the end he can only do so much if the attacking midfielder doesn't either run in to slot home in the space he created by leaving his CF spot, or good enough to feed the ball to the wide players when necessary.

        Regarding Chelsea I think they have an easier fix in making Mata play more centrally. They'd need a decent left winger then but that would probably be easier to find than this type of player we're discussing here.

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        1. Zep
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 10 months ago

          I think you missed the full stop Garg... 😕

          It is easy to miss due to the lack of capital letters.

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    7. Mull
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      • 14 Years
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      Can I have Strac....., Torres and Bellamy for this weekend.

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      1. 4vets
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        13 years, 10 months ago

        For 8pts you can 😉

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        1. Mull
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          Bargain.

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          1. 4vets
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            13 years, 10 months ago

            Over to you! 😉

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            1. Mull
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              • 14 Years
              13 years, 10 months ago

              And I'll have 9kg worth of cocaine left over 😀

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              1. 4vets
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 10 months ago

                Meet at your place?

                For at least 2 months 😉

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                1. Mull
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                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 10 months ago

                  Bring your team over, I hear they are low on morale at the mo.

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    8. Puzzle
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      • 15 Years
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      Agree with this. Chelsea with their money will have a shot at rebuilding, hard to see Arsenal getting this player type at the moment. Hazard, Gotze etc will likely move to other clubs.

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    9. floydy_floyd
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      To be fair when everyone is fit song and Wilshire holding with arteta in front of them and the ox and theo (or a replacement) behind RvP is decent and well balanced.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
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        it would be nice to see ramsey deeper then and arteta given that freedom. i agree though injuries to wilshere and diaby have crippled their flexibility

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    10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Brillo! 😀

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      1. applebonkers
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        llol (literal)

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    11. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
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      Agreed, this is why signing Hazard is vital for us. He is exactly what we need.

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    12. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
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      Wenger won't change though, he would have already if he was going to. United's shape is much more different to the other two though, United are a very solid 4-2-31 while Arsenal are flowing 4-3-3. Also think RVP might be wasted behind the striker. Rooney is often too deep to use his finishing ability fully, which Wenger might be scared to do to RVP.

      Also Rooney was dropped back deeper because of the lack of creativity in midfield (can see how it's changed our style by him spreading to Valencia 40 times a game) while if it was for Arsenal it'd probably be vice versa, not a lack of creativity but a lack of a spread goal threat.

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    13. Goose
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Excellent post, makes a lot of sense. It just makes me miss Mashcerano Alonso with a Gerrard in his prime even more. ðŸ™

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
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        Indeed 🙠looking at our team now makes me depressed. A racist and a donkey up front...

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        1. Mull
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          • 14 Years
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          Oooo, now there's an idea for a sitcom.

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
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            Add a Doos and you're sorted 😉

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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              • 16 Years
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              Getting in your retaliation first? Hansen would be proud of you! 😉

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            • 16 Years
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            "Till Death Us Do Part"? 😉 Dalglish as Alf Garnett

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            1. Menly
              • 14 Years
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              😀

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    14. Spin
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      • 15 Years
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      Nicely written.
      I cant really remember United playing with a 'front three midfielder' tho. They did try Scholes off the front man for a season but that didn't really work out.
      Uniteds key since the Keane Scholes partnership was dissolved has been
      a - their variety - like the days with 3 moving forwards of Tevez, Ronaldo and Rooney
      b - exactly what you said above about playing the correct system for their players since Tevez and Ronaldo left.

      What I took from your post is just how good a manager Ferguson has actually been. No, that sounds stupid considering all he's achieved but more like you managed to point out a particular reason WHY he's been more successful than others - he's moved with the times as his squad evolved whereas Wenger has stuck to his same basic beliefs whether it be on field tactics or player recruitment, he just wont change or adapt his philosophy and its been killing them for years now and resulted in all his best players leaving.

      I cant comment on Chelsea as their manager has changed so many times and it seems to be taking AVB a long time to figure out his players strengths and weaknesses and I'm not sure he was ever good enough to do this at Chelsea.

      Anyway, great post!

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
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        Good post from you as well.

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      2. applebonkers
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        yep, ferguson's ability to have a winning team on the go, with old players being phased out and young players constantly being phased in is insane really. master of what must be a very difficult balancing act

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    15. jamsiep
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      Good post.

      Regarding Chelsea, even if we were to sign two brilliant wingers (*reminisces of the time where we had Robben and Duff*) and so allowed Mata to permanent play a central role in behind the lone forward, I'm not sure who we'd pick as the screening midfield duo.

      Ramires, while being our best player this season, is an odd player. He's at his best when playing an attacking role, but what does that say about your midfield if Ramires is the most advanced of a midfield trio? For all his endeavour, he's hardly the most gifted on the ball. It works against the better sides, because his energy helps to press further up the pitch, and he can be an absolute animal on the counter attack. But he's not nearly as effective against the lesser sides, where they are content to sit deep and you need a bit of quality to unlock their defences.

      And then there's Romeu, who is a genuine holding player and wouldn't offer much as part of a double pivot in a 4-2-3-1 style formation.

      Very difficult to say what formation would suit Chelsea the most at the moment, and as far as I can tell there isn't really one to be honest. If he's still here in the summer, it's sounding more and more like he won't be, then AVB needs to invest heavily in the transfer market, on players that suit the style of play that he wants us to move towards.

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Aye its a right conundrum trying to sort out what to do with your lads. The question is, who would you definitely keep? Who would let you challenge for the Champions League
        Cech without a doubt
        Ramires is a good premiership player, all industry and energy but as you say he lacks that bit of flair and creativity.
        Mata, pretty class, no David Silva like but he stands out amidst the dross like a little golden bit of sweetcorn in the surrounding turd.
        Terry, not my cup of tea but a decent player. Not sure he is good enough to take you to the next level, his day might be done. Ditto Cole.
        Biggest problem you have is Torres, cant believe how broken he is. Mind you I couldnt believe how broken Shevchenko (one of my favourite strikers of all time) became. Do you give him another season?

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
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          It's no coincidence that both Torres and Shevchenko have failed so miserably at Chelsea..... The problem lies with the midfield.

          Cech, Luiz, Romeu, Ramires, Mata and Torres. That's about it!

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            Ivanovic is a good squad player, still not convinced by Luiz yet but he deserves another season. Romeu does a job well enough.
            Yeah other than that a whole big clearout needed.

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
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              Yeah, Ivanovic is fine, as are Meireles and hopefully Essien.

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              1. Attila the Bum
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                Oh aye Essien, hope he gets back to his best. Awesome on his day. Quite like Meireles, never understood why Liverpool sold him.

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                1. Call Me Old Fashioned
                  • 14 Years
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                  ''Mata, pretty class, no David Silva like but he stands out amidst the dross like a little golden bit of sweetcorn in the surrounding turd.''

                  Where do get this descriptive gift from? Astonishing

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                  1. Attila the Bum
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                    From Jeebus.

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            2. Gargamel
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              Was just going to say that, Ivanovic is a pretty useful player.

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        2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
          • 16 Years
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          Not a Chelsea fan (thank god), but I'd get rid of Cole though, hardly setting the world alight any more. Get someone bothered in, even if they need a year to settle.

          Mata needs a central role too for me, he's struggling to dictate games from the wing, isn't being utilised right.

          I'd keep Torres, while what he's doing isn't working, he's clearly trying to mkae it work and is one of few who look like they can turn it around.

          All this shows me how limited AVB is, he hasn't been able to adapt properly, to change his tactics to suit what he's got. Doesn't have to change fully, just some elements. Like give Mata a central role, play a 4-2-3-1 and how long did it take him to get rid of the high line, which he still reverts to now and then? Every manager has a philosophy, no problem with that, the best can adapt to suit what they have.

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
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            Hmmmm......

            AVB's tactics have completely changed over the course of the season, despite not straying from 4-3-3. As I said before, ideally we'd play 4-2-3-1 with Mata in behind Torres, but we don't have the players at our disposal to pick a suitable defensive midfield pairing. Essien and Meireles is probably the best combo I can think of myself, but Ramires and Romeu have been our two best midfielders this season.

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            1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
              • 16 Years
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              Have they? Didn't realise, hasn't worked anyway.

              Even if he played what he did at United, Mata central and Malouda as a central winger breaking from deep, but play Ramires there.

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              1. jamsiep
                • 16 Years
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                Well in the sense that we've shifted from the high-line, heavy pressing from the front tactic to a much more conserved style of play. And yes, in the most part in hasn't particularly worked, save for the "big" games - Valencia, City, United, Tottenham. Makes you think that the majority of the problems lie with the players at their attitude.

                I guess Ramires playing as a wide midfielder on the right could be a good option. We'd have to sign some to play that role on the left though, Malouda is well past it.

                Cech
                Ivanovic Luiz JT Cole
                Ramires Essien X X
                Mata
                Torres

                Hmmmmm... Perhaps still lacking creativity.

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                1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                  • 16 Years
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                  XX = Meireles and there you are

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                  1. jamsiep
                    • 16 Years
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                    And the other X?! I'll settle for Bale. He'd be perfect.

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                  2. Gargamel
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                    • 16 Years
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                    He would. I think most of the teams with money would make a good long term investment if they splashed out and bought him. Being able to easily double his wage without stretching their wage budget is a pretty decent thing when negotiating too.

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                  3. AP
                    • 16 Years
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                    Bale will want CL football, so rule him out.

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                  4. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                    • 16 Years
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                    No no no

                    Against United it was buy and large 4-2-3-1, but Malouda who was on the left of the 3 was deeper than the other ones. It almost went like / with Sturridge at the top on the right, Mata central and Malouda deeper. He burst from deep throughout the game. So you could play Ramires in that position, it'd utilize his energy well and let him contribute to both defensive and attacking moves.

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                  5. jamsiep
                    • 16 Years
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                    Yeah, I get that. But are you suggesting playing Ramires on the left? Doubt it would work.

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                  6. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                    • 16 Years
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                    Well no, same system just put him on the other side. Malouda was on the left for the United game and that was the only time I've seen Chelsea play that way so used that example.

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                2. Spin
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                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 10 months ago

                  x x to Antonio Valencia and Gareth Bale.
                  Hard working in both directions and great crossers of the ball - team sorted!

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          2. Spin
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            • 15 Years
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            Agree with all points there, except Ashley Cole.
            He's still a class left back and would be as superb as ever in a properly managed team

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
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              Been awful this season, though.

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              1. Attila the Bum
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                • 15 Years
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                Indeed. He'll still get picked ahead of Baines or anyone else for the Euro2012 squad though.

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                1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                  • 16 Years
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                  Not much decent competition there for England.

                  You need a Stephen Ward

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                  1. Attila the Bum
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                    EVERYONE needs a Stephen Ward.

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              2. Spin
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                • 15 Years
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                Not up to his usual high standards thats for sure but I think he's been exposed. He seems to be told to get fwd at every opportunity (if the 5/6 chelsea games I've actually seen are anything to go by) but at the same time those around him are not giving him the cover he had when Mourinho or even Ancelotti was there. CB pairing and RB has changed a lot for Chelsea this season too and with everything going on 6 clean sheets tells its own story.
                So bad is AVB (in my opinion) that I'm positive Mourinho would have that same Chelsea squad within three points of the top. Not provable in any way of course but I just think their problems owe more to the management than the existing personnel.

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      2. Drip Doctor
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        This is what is soo irritating about Arsenal becasue in Song, Wilshere and Arteta we have those two midfield players you are talking about. We don't have the Mata type player to play behind RVP. It could have been a very different season if we had.

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      3. applebonkers
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        yeah chelsea hurts your head just thinking about it

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    16. Lewis - Sky Pod
      • 15 Years
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      As you suggest I think a shift to some sort of 4-4-2 could suit Arsenal, given the somewhat average performances of Ramsey in the #10 role.

      Gervinho, I think, definitely has the qualities, though raw at the moment, to succeed there. If they could add a proper left winger, or even try a fit Andre Santos there, they could line up..

      Walcott - Song - Wilshere - ?/Santos/AOC

      RVP
      Gerv

      That'd have pace from 3 positions, stability from the middle two, coupled with the creativity of Wilshere and RVP in the #10 role.

      Of course if Wenger wanted to go really mental he could just sign a proper #9 to play with/ahead of RVP (as long as its not Demba Ba)

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
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        Gervinho leading the line?! His finishing is pathetic.

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        1. Lewis - Sky Pod
          • 15 Years
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          At times it is yeah, I agree, but once he's settled, I think he'll become a much more clinical player for Arsenal. 28 goals in 67 league games for Lille isn't a bad record at all from L/RW.

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      2. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        Best suggestion yet. It's all about Gervinho!

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          • 15 Years
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          I'm telling thee, Oxlade Chamberlain has the physique and the tekkers of a class centre forward. If he can learn to lead the line he could be cracking.

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          1. Gargamel
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            • 16 Years
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            He might learn but he's no Gervinho just yet

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            1. Fratboy
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 10 months ago

              this all seems in vain, it would be amazing to see Arsenal try this formation but they never will as Wenger is an overpaid douche.

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              1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                • 16 Years
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                😕

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              2. Attila the Bum
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                Wenger is one of the best managers in the history of the top flight in England. He's just unlucky to be a contemporary of arguably THE best manager in the history of the English top flight.

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                1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                  • 16 Years
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                  Wenger made the PL what it is. Would it be as popular and as financially backed had no one challenged United for the best part of a decade?

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                  1. Attila the Bum
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                    • 15 Years
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                    Nope, the bad guys (Man Utd) always need a rival, Blackburn briefly, then us for a couple of years but Arsenal have always challenged, Chelsea under Mourinho were good rivals but that was more evil v evil.

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              3. Gargamel
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                Oh don't say that. He's probably my favourite Premiership-related person 😥

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          2. Lewis - Sky Pod
            • 15 Years
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            definitely agree with this. he shows a lot of the qualities that Ronaldo did, and Bale is starting to, moving in and becoming more of a Forward than a wide man. And No, I'm not saying he's anywhere near their level. Nor that Bale is on Ronaldo's level (disclaimers)

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      3. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
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        that santos shout is a great one actually, even gibbs. i swear gibbs' first game or two for arsenal was as a left mid

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        1. Lewis - Sky Pod
          • 15 Years
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          If we're talking of the squad now, with no additions. Then he'd probably be their best option as an orthodox left midfielder/winger in a flat 4-4-2.

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      4. Drip Doctor
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        I wouldn't have Walcott anywhere near our starting 11 at the moment.

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      5. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
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        Gervinho is too one footed, indecisive, and doesn't have the finishing ability or confidence to play as the main striker imo

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        1. Lewis - Sky Pod
          • 15 Years
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          Not sure what one-footed has to do with anything. RVP is probably one of the most one-footed players around, as is a certain Lionel Messi.

          Finishing ability - not this season, but he has form 28 in 67 from LW for Lille.

          Confidence, not sure any Arsenal player has any at the moment. He does lack composure though.

          Of course I was talking hypothetically, Arsenal won't play 4-4-2 and will (surely) add players.

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
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            RVP and Messi aren't one footed. They are perfectly capable of using their weaker foot. See RVP's chip which hit the post earlier in the season and many of Messi's goals for further information. Gervinho has no confidence in his left foot, almost as bad as Valencia.

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    17. Fratboy
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      great post that AB thanks.

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    18. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Perfect example of why FFS>twitter.

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    19. The Mighty One
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      Well done, appleb. I've been on this site since nearly Day#1 and this is probably the best (most useful to general football) comment and reply-string I've ever seen here.

      Mata could be that creative player....but Lampard used to do his best scoring with two beasts up top (Drog and Sulk) with Essien in his prime behind.

      I don't even know how Wes Sneijder would fit at UTD right now.

      We all knew that Arteta never could be the pure Fab replacement, that would be unfair. Sadly Arsenal had zero forward threat today in the middle with Arteta Ramsey and Song in there.

      Later all.

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      1. The Mighty One
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        Don't get me wrong though: Utd badly need a creative mid, but the key to ab's post here is that all of the teams at the top need one....except Citay, and VDV can't stay healthy for Spurs.

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  18. Gaz Downright
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    Oh, and to any Gooners.

    Having trouble with AC Milan in the knock-out stages are ya?

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    1. Jinswick
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      • 15 Years
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      We just don't look capable of winning any tournaments at the moment. AB's post a few pages back was excellent in summarising why. Very frustrating and depressing times being a gooner...

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  19. roscola
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    Do points deducted for transfers feature in the members cup scores? They don\'t seem to be deducted from the total weekly points tally in the gameweek totals but are they factored in for the members cup?

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  20. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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    Bloody Ryan Taylor, killed me this year he has

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    1. Mull
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      +1 '66 summed him up perfectly as the turd that just won't flush.

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    2. CRAZY TRAIN
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      Me too, pain in the 'arris he is

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  21. Just_Ty
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    Probably been asked before but why no bonus for recovered balls in UCL?

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    1. Mílanista
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      They've been added now. I have 1 for Adriano

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    2. Epic Fail
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      They were just late.

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  22. Gigging Order
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    Great article

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  23. Sleep Talk
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    Could someone briefly explain to my how the "ICT Threat"-values are calculated?

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    1. applebonkers
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      ayegbeni FAQubu

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      1. tangtastic
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        +1

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      2. applebonkers
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        or not....
        nothing to see here

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      3. Sleep Talk
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        Thanks, I've read the FAQ, but I guess I only glimpsed at the Members-FAQ then.
        However, it doesn't say that much about what exact factors it takes into considerations, only "a player’s likelihood to earn assists and to score goals, or at least get in goalscoring situations".
        Just to be sure: I am not looking for a mathematical formula or anything, curiosity just bit me. 😛

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    2. Sleep Talk
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      • 14 Years
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      And the creativity-values as well for that matter.

      Great article btw. Mark! Wouldn't think you had the time for much writing these days?

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  24. Mílanista
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    Question for the neutrals, who are you supporting in tonights game? Milan can cure everyone of RVP rotation worries if Arsenal go crashing out.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Arsenal - are you daft? 😉

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    2. Mull
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      • 14 Years
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      Milan for that very reason. Also Nocerino is my captain.

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    3. King Nemanja
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      Arsenal

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    4. Puzzle
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      Milan. I hate rotation!

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      This pits FPL against my support.... and support obviously wins here.

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    6. ssssshhh
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      Surely most neutrals would go for a youthful unpredictable Arsenal team over the bore that is AC Milan. 😉

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      1. Mílanista
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        Biased much 😉

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    7. Somalion
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      Milan, just because Wenger is a smelly head.

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  25. WOLVERiNES
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    Arsenal XI vs Milan: Szczesny, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Arteta, Song, Ramsey, Walcott, Rosický, Van Persie (c)

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    1. WOLVERiNES
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      Bench: Fabianksi, Djourou, Benayoun, Coquelin, Henry, Chamberlain, Arshavin

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    2. King Nemanja
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      damn ox on the bench ðŸ™

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    3. isacki: full casual
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      WHAT NO ARSHAVIN HE'S IN MY UCL TEAM
      hahahaha....

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    4. Scroobius Mac
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      Rosicky on the wing? Or is that some sort of non 4-3-3 formation he's going to play?

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      1. ssssshhh
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        Rosicky wide I reckon.

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      2. Djerbil
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        I think Rosicky is to protect Gibbs..

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      3. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 10 months ago

        Surely Rosicky LAM in 4-2-3-1

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  26. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Watching Zenit. They look like a seriously technical passing side. Will not be an easy game for anyone. Their second goal was sublime.

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  27. Demí
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    ACM Abbiati, Mexes, Abate, Thiago Silva, Antonini, v Bommel, Seedorf, Nocerino, Boateng, Ibrahimovic, Robinho

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Nocerino to bomb forward please. Thanks.

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    2. The Red Viper
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      Boateng 😀

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      1-1 imo

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  28. Puzzle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    2-2 Benfica. Cardozo. Horror show from keeper

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  29. Demí
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Goal Cardozaaa

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 10 months ago

      zo*

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  30. Scroobius Mac
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 10 months ago

    Owned Glen Johnson a couple of times last year, including a DGW. he got me about 7 points in total.

    Needless to say I'm tempted again.

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