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FPL GW17 Scout Picks - Bus Team

Verbruggen

O’Reilly
Senesi
Hincapie

Semenyo
Saka
Wilson
Foden

Ekitiké
Haaland
Thiago

Kelleher
Rodon
Clyne
Kroupi

GW17 Chip Poll

Price Change Predictions

Risers

Fallers

Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Wilson	FUL	5.6m	102.2%	Very Likely
Ekitiké	LIV	8.6m	85.4%	Likely
Gvardiol	MCI	5.9m	94.7%	Likely
Bowen	WHU	7.5m	95.3%	Maybe
Foden	MCI	8.8m	82.4%	Maybe
Marc Guiu	CHE	4.2m	89.3%	Unlikely
Watkins	AVL	8.5m	84.4%	Unlikely
Truffert	BOU	4.5m	81.2%	Unlikely
Keane	EVE	4.6m	75.5%	Unlikely
Verbruggen	BHA	4.4m	71.7%	Unlikely
Haaland	MCI	15.0m	67.7%	Unlikely
Ballard	SUN	4.6m	68.3%	Unlikely
Andersen	FUL	4.6m	69.8%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	68.5%	Unlikely
Raya	ARS	6.0m	65.6%	Unlikely
Dalot	MUN	4.4m	61.5%	Unlikely
Tete	FUL	4.5m	62.0%	Unlikely
B.Fernandes	MUN	9.3m	53.3%	Unlikely
Petrović	BOU	4.5m	59.0%	Unlikely
Livramento	NEW	4.9m	61.6%	Unlikely
Casemiro	MUN	5.5m	60.7%	Unlikely
Guéhi	CRY	5.3m	52.6%	Unlikely
Dúbravka	BUR	4.0m	56.4%	Unlikely
Cullen	BUR	5.0m	55.8%	Unlikely
Cherki	MCI	6.5m	41.2%	Unlikely
Van den Berg	BRE	4.5m	50.6%	Unlikely
Cash	AVL	4.9m	51.0%	Unlikely
Igor Jesus	NFO	5.8m	48.3%	Unlikely
Romero	TOT	5.0m	49.9%	Unlikely
Flemming	BUR	5.3m	47.7%	Unlikely
James	CHE	5.6m	48.1%	Unlikely
Rogers	AVL	7.1m	35.0%	Unlikely
Cunha	MUN	7.9m	38.0%	Unlikely
L.Miley	NEW	4.4m	40.6%	Unlikely
Mount	MUN	5.9m	40.0%	Unlikely
Wilson	WHU	5.8m	39.2%	Unlikely
Pickford	EVE	5.5m	39.7%	Unlikely
Leno	FUL	4.9m	38.3%	Unlikely
Trossard	ARS	6.9m	36.8%	Unlikely
Sánchez	CHE	4.9m	35.1%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Woltemade	NEW	7.4m	103.6%	Very Likely
João Pedro	CHE	7.3m	101.6%	Very Likely
Enzo	CHE	6.6m	98.5%	Likely
Barnes	NEW	6.3m	92.5%	Likely
Nallo	LIV	3.8m	100.3%	Very Likely
Rodon	LEE	4.1m	100.3%	Very Likely
Elanga	NEW	6.6m	100.3%	Very Likely
Muniz	FUL	5.4m	100.2%	Very Likely
Mayenda	SUN	5.3m	100.1%	Very Likely
Gudmundsson	LEE	3.9m	100.2%	Very Likely
Jordan	BUR	4.0m	99.5%	Maybe
Irving	WHU	4.4m	96.5%	Maybe
Sels	NFO	4.7m	95.0%	Maybe
Neave	NEW	4.4m	98.1%	Maybe
Okafor	LEE	5.5m	94.4%	Unlikely
Bentley	WOL	4.0m	93.3%	Unlikely
Balcombe	BRE	4.0m	93.6%	Unlikely
McKenna	BOU	4.0m	94.5%	Unlikely
Piroe	LEE	5.0m	93.3%	Unlikely
Barnes	BUR	4.3m	92.8%	Unlikely
Broggio	AVL	4.5m	92.5%	Unlikely
Colwill	CHE	4.8m	91.9%	Unlikely
Kulusevski	TOT	6.4m	90.7%	Unlikely
Morgan	BRE	4.4m	92.0%	Unlikely
Gakpo	LIV	7.4m	85.7%	Unlikely
Tasker	BHA	3.9m	89.2%	Unlikely
Worrall	BUR	3.9m	88.5%	Unlikely
Nørgaard	ARS	5.2m	88.5%	Unlikely
Danso	TOT	4.3m	87.5%	Unlikely
Munetsi	WOL	5.4m	86.2%	Unlikely
Coleman	EVE	4.3m	85.7%	Unlikely
Webster	BHA	4.4m	85.7%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	86.0%	Unlikely
Mosquera	ARS	5.4m	81.5%	Unlikely
Aina	NFO	4.7m	83.8%	Unlikely
Tzimas	BHA	5.3m	82.8%	Unlikely
Fitzgerald	MUN	4.4m	83.5%	Unlikely
Bevan	BOU	3.9m	83.1%	Unlikely
Robertson	LIV	5.8m	81.4%	Unlikely
Jair Cunha	NFO	4.3m	83.5%	Unlikely

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Watchlists

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	C
No Change	Alisson	LIV	C
No Change	Donnarumma	MCI	C, Sus
Up	Kelleher	BRE	C, Vs
Down	Ramsdale	NEW	C
No Change	Dubravka	BUR	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:16am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	C
No Change	Jurriën Timber	ARS	C, Inj
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	C
Up	Andersen	FUL	C
Up	Marc Guehi	CRY	A
Up	van den Berg	BRE	C, Vs
No Change	Thiaw	NEW	A
No Change	Milenkovic	NFO	C
No Change	van Hecke	BHA	A
No Change	Mukiele	SUN	C, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:28am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Saka	ARS	B
No Change	Bruno Fernandes	MUN	A
No Change	Foden	MCI	A
No Change	Semenyo	BOU	C
Up	Szoboszlai	LIV	C
No Change	Minteh	BHA	B
No Change	Bruno Guimarães	NEW	A
No Change	Schade	BRE	C, Vs, Sus
No Change	Anderson	NFO	B, £

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:34am

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	B
No Change	Thiago	BRE	A, Vs
No Change	Mateta	CRY	C
Up	Ekitiké	LIV	B
Down	Welbeck	BHA	C, Rest
Down	Woltemade	NEW	B

Last updated: 13 Dec, 2025 10:43am

Dugout Discussion

6 May 2012 2464 comments

Akers

It’s the penultimate weekend of the 2011/12 Premier League season, and only Wolves know their fate. Although nothing can be officially decided today, the Dugout Dugout opens for seven games with huge significance at both ends of the table. We start with arguably the biggest game of the day, as Manchester City travel to Newcastle United, with the title and Champions League qualification on the line. Here’s how both sides line-up…

Newcastle XI: Krul, Perch, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez, Cisse, Ba.
Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Nasri, Toure Yaya, Barry, Silva, Aguero, Tevez

Unsurprisingly, after two massive wins this week, both sides name unchanged line-ups.

Should City falter at the Sports Direct Arena, then attention and intrigue with turn to Old Trafford to see how the Champions can respond at home to Swansea.

In and amongst those two huge games, there’s five games kicking off at 2pm. They include three of the five sides desperately trying to avoid relegation with Aston Villa facing third-place chasing Spurs, QPR hosting Stoke, and Bolton welcoming the visit of West Brom.

Follow all the action as it unfolds in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which can be accessed right here.

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FPL Daniel
13 years, 7 months ago
Pog and Klaxon of so Demps upfront and on penalties. Please score !!!
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njfsdkffslkf
13 years, 7 months ago
Heres some interesting stats for those comparing City "buying" the league versus United not and fergie building his title team with no big spending.

Net spend between start of the 1986 season and start of the 1992 season:

ManU (11th in table in 1986) 13m
Next 4 Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal COMBINED: 14m
Source: Soccerbase

Net Spending 2006 to present season

Man city 418,870,000

Next 4 (United dont make Net spend top 4 due to Ronaldo sale )

Chelsea Liverpool Spurs Villa COMBINED 373,000,000
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1. Cruicky
  13 years, 7 months ago
  That's all well and good and I have FFP stops that.
  
  However, that Everton game is the reason we won't win the league.
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2. pukey
  13 years, 7 months ago
  So you're basically proving that City have bought the title... yes?
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3. udit
  13 years, 7 months ago
  I don't quite understand exactly, what are you saying? City have 'bought' the league?
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  1. njfsdkffslkf
    13 years, 7 months ago
    In realtive comparision with their rivals on net spending City now and United (also midtable in 1986) are very similar
    
    Find it funny City doing it now is buying the title. Yet United spent alot of money (in comparision with their rivals as to compare direct money is impossible) for a midtable team in the 80s pre success too.
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    1. udit
      13 years, 7 months ago
      Yes but to maintain it for 20 years after that AND hold of big spenders like City and Chelsea is quite remarkable without spending big yourself. Also, Man United spent that money in a duration of 6 years whilst city have mostly spent it in just 3 years. Half the duration. Also, several of United legends, have either been cheap or academy players, players like Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Cantona, Ronaldo(he wasn't cheap but he was in the end great business). Sure, United spent money, obviously you have to spend money at some point to get top quality players, but the point is to maintain it and spend it judiciously and City have most definitely NOT spent their money judiciously. Apart from Richards and Hart, tell me regular first team City academy player? Maybe in 20 years time City will hold the same stature as United, but they'll have to wait for that.
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      1. njfsdkffslkf
        13 years, 7 months ago
        Your missing the point
        
        United went from midtable to champs as city look to be doing over a 6 year period (Pre youth team)
        
        Its nothing to do with youth team success and establishing a team but going from midtable spending to champs which both did and relative to their rivals they are almost exactly the same.
        
        Im not saying they hold the same stature im saying if City bought this league which many are saying then an objective look at how fergie got his initial success is very similar as shown above.
        
        Again its 2006 to now and 1986 to 1992. Not after. Both pre success, both midtable when they started spending. City have been said by manner to have bought there way to the top .....united ascension under fergusion to the first title is not much different when comparing to rivals in both eras.
        
        Im not comparing statures but merely showing City are not the first to do it and fergie did very similar but never gets such "you bought a title squad" for his first team
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        udit
        13 years, 7 months ago
        I get what you're saying, but you're figures are wrong, United only spent 10.7 million between 1986 - 1992. That's an average of 1.6 million per year.
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        udit
        13 years, 7 months ago
        oh and yes, but I do agree with the point that Man United did buy good players(obviously at a price) similar to what City are now doing. However, that spending was staggered, Most of City's has been in a rush, thanks to them and other ridiculous buys the market has become gross inflated.
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      2. Granville
        13 years, 7 months ago
        Hart wasn't an academy player, they bought him from Shrewsbury.
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        udit
        13 years, 7 months ago
        Oh yeah, but he was still extremely cheap though wasn't he?
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4. Granville
  13 years, 7 months ago
  I already saw this post on another forum and it's false. Liverpool were the biggest spenders from '86 on.
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  1. njfsdkffslkf
    13 years, 7 months ago
    Its net spending Granville.
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    1. Granville
      13 years, 7 months ago
      Have you checked the validity of those numbers? Someone on that thread refuted the Liverpool numbers.
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      1. njfsdkffslkf
        13 years, 7 months ago
        Yes 2 different sources including soccer lens and transfersleague co.uk records
        
        United in the 80s spent almost exact same as City today relative to their rivals. In fact United selling Ronaldo (which means they are not in top 4 net spend but are in overall spend stops it being like for like) so villa go into top 4 net spend instead
        
        If city bought this success United had a very similar path from midtable to 1992 success before the youth team came in when you comparing to rivals at time as money in football is incomparable.
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        Granville
        13 years, 7 months ago
        transfersleague co.uk only have records back to the start of the premier league.
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        udit
        13 years, 7 months ago
        http://www.redcafe.net/f7/official-transfer-comparison-thread-311572/
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        Granville
        13 years, 7 months ago
        Thanks for that Udit.
        
        Copying and pasting from the internet is never a good idea to back up an argument.
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Mílanista
13 years, 7 months ago
Cisse goal, Taarabt assist
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1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
  13 years, 7 months ago
  My heart was in my mouth there, then remembered the Newcastle game was already finished! 🙂
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FPL Daniel
13 years, 7 months ago
77'Great chance for Cisse! Taiwo whips it in from the left and Cisse heads it down but Sorensen parries it to his left. Best chance of the half for QPR.

Almost assist, well the points (for my players) are on there way I can feel it
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Mindless Freak
13 years, 7 months ago
Come on Jelavic your my captain 🙂 - Stay positive.
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Declan
13 years, 7 months ago
Stoke cleansheet gone, b*llox
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Syd.
13 years, 7 months ago
QPR goal
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GREENDREAMS11
13 years, 7 months ago
cisse goal
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Chris_White
13 years, 7 months ago
YES QPR!!!!!!! GET IN
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halnone
13 years, 7 months ago
I hope mancini says united are still favourites. would be fuclin hilarious.

TOP OF THE LEAGUE!
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Give The Todd Some Love
13 years, 7 months ago
CISSE
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pukey
13 years, 7 months ago
I have just noticed I have no United players... Slightly worried
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FPL Daniel
13 years, 7 months ago
I'll be damn wow just wow I predicted agagagaga too bad I didn't go Taarabt intsead of Pienaar as I wanted too 😀
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1. The Finnisher
  13 years, 7 months ago
  I'm sorry, what?
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  1. FPL Daniel
    13 years, 7 months ago
    abOVE the comment about taiwo. forget it, nothing important
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The Finnisher
13 years, 7 months ago
Adel Taarabt has been great at home lately.
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kaz 96
13 years, 7 months ago
BLACKBURN ARE GOING DOWN!!!
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Mid-Table Obscurity
13 years, 7 months ago
come on spurs put those villan bastards down
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Djerbil
13 years, 7 months ago
F*ck.. ShawX cleanie gone
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udit
13 years, 7 months ago
QPRRRR GET IN 😀 😀 I LOVE YOU

(caveat : only if you win next week)
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mouldy_uk
13 years, 7 months ago
Who was QPR assist?
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1. Chris_White
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Taarabt
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Taraabt
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3. Tatty Bojangles
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Not many people will get that joke 🙂
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4. Fabreghastly
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Terry's mate
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  1. FPL Daniel
    13 years, 7 months ago
    I might be Ferdinand assist.
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AIRMILES
13 years, 7 months ago
SAF a bit too chubby to wear a cut-away collared shirt. Nice to see him in a cheery mood though. Like your favourite granddad or something.
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1. SPorting
  13 years, 7 months ago
  favourite grandad??
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  1. AIRMILES
    13 years, 7 months ago
    Well, Ihave slim picks to choose from 😀
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Chazza
13 years, 7 months ago
I just realised Tottenham are drawing away to Villa- does anyone want those 3rd and 4th places?!
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UKG
13 years, 7 months ago
Huth CS gone, right at the end. Oh well Tawio to come in for Evans
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kaz 96
13 years, 7 months ago
how much time left at villa?
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Mílanista
13 years, 7 months ago
WBA goal. Morrisson
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1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
  13 years, 7 months ago
  woohoooo
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GREENDREAMS11
13 years, 7 months ago
relegation battle is nuts
west brom have scored
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Declan
13 years, 7 months ago
Bolton 🙁
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crystalpalaceRus
13 years, 7 months ago
looks like qpr are staying up
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Cruicky
13 years, 7 months ago
2-2 WBA Morrison.
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mclaren
13 years, 7 months ago
Happy I captained RVP rather than Jelavic...very tough decision but proving correct.
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you can call me AL
13 years, 7 months ago
Bogdan on 5 pts now!
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1. Fabreghastly
  13 years, 7 months ago
  4
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2. HuttonDressedasLahm
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Wow, looks like my Bogdan Kenny dilemma was semi irrelevant!
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3. Give The Todd Some Love
  13 years, 7 months ago
  4
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4. you can call me AL
  13 years, 7 months ago
  Damn it !
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