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Sunday Dugout Discussion

6 May 2012 2464 comments
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It’s the penultimate weekend of the 2011/12 Premier League season, and only Wolves know their fate. Although nothing can be officially decided today, the Dugout Dugout opens for seven games with huge significance at both ends of the table. We start with arguably the biggest game of the day, as Manchester City travel to Newcastle United, with the title and Champions League qualification on the line. Here’s how both sides line-up…

Newcastle XI: Krul, Perch, Williamson, Coloccini, Santon, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez, Cisse, Ba.

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Lescott, Kompany, Clichy, Nasri, Toure Yaya, Barry, Silva, Aguero, Tevez

Unsurprisingly, after two massive wins this week, both sides name unchanged line-ups.

Should City falter at the Sports Direct Arena, then attention and intrigue with turn to Old Trafford to see how the Champions can respond at home to Swansea.

In and amongst those two huge games, there’s five games kicking off at 2pm. They include three of the five sides desperately trying to avoid relegation with Aston Villa facing third-place chasing Spurs, QPR hosting Stoke, and Bolton welcoming the visit of West Brom.

Follow all the action as it unfolds in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which can be accessed right here.

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  1. David Davros
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    I'm tripling up on City next week. Fancy them to absolutely hammer QPR to seal the title.

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    1. Fray Bentos
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      i already have kun, tevez, silva :8

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      1. David Davros
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah this is what I'm going with

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Same here...Getting Kompany and Aguero/Silva/Y.Toure in...

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  2. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Why was wheater subbed...One clean sheet they are likely to get, and he played only 45 minutes.
    Anyways on 52 points, things looking good for me on fpl front.
    Now only if Tottenham just score one more to seal this match and a CL spot, that would be really nice.

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      * Sorry clean sheet gone I believe...

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    2. Banburismus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      injury

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    3. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      injured ðŸ™

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  3. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Absolutely sick of my rival getting jammy points while I have legit goals/assists ruled out.

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    1. David Davros
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      It's alright, will all be over in a week

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Yep, and I won't win my ML because of this sort of BS all season.

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        1. David Davros
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah luck plays a part but you've probably had your fair share as well at times. It's easy to forget about the times you get lucky and your rival doesn't.

          Oh well, onwards and upwards to next season!

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          1. Mílanista
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            Sure, I've had luck as well but a lot of bad luck too. He has been ridiculously fortunate this season.

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  4. GreenBlue
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    who assisted brunt?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Long

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      1. GreenBlue
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        thanx

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Dorrans according to BBC. Make of that what you will

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    3. Fabreghastly
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Guy named Deflection - didn't see him on the team sheet

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  5. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Do we really need a draw?

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      no, but a draw won't be as bad a result as people are suggesting

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      1. kaz 96
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        13 years, 7 months ago

        i.e if arenal draw at hawthorns , u will just have to win even if u draw today

        if u lose, u will have to hope west brom beat arsenal

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          massive point then

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      A win would be nice...It would seal a top-4 spot

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        and tattoo schweinsteiger on my cat

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Tattoo pig mounter on your cat? 🙂

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  6. kaz 96
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    wenger playing fifa...

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  7. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    main rival has gained me so far 14pts and he's got Valencia and Rooney which I don't. Led 21 pts before this gw. Gutted.

    It's going to be one hell of a last gw (if my players don't deliver in the remaining minutes)

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  8. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    mixed bag today, dont know what to make for gw38

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  9. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    How are Everton doing? For some reason I have find that I have 3 Everton players in my team..

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Nice rack

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      1. Mr Smith
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Yes but her fanny is like a hangar...

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  10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Keeping my nose in front in my head to head ... 😀

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  11. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Come on spurs... Fight for that 3rd spot FFS

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  12. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Silva or Yaya for next week?

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    1. Simon March
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I think Silva - City will probably start with with Toure as DMF

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  13. udit
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    I bought in Rafael, no one's performed in my team but I don't give a shit, just score 9 united. PLEASE.

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    1. Mr Smith
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      +9

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  14. Mr Smith
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Come on Jelly FFS!

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  15. Mid-Table Obscurity
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    terry, vorm, moses +3 pts

    vs

    rooney (C)

    who wins?

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Hopefully rooney

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    2. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I'd think Rooney

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  16. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Seesawed back and forth on Friday between Bale and Petrov. Fail.

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  17. gledy
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Fulham three points ahead of Liverpool 😀

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  18. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    well, this is shaping up to be a piss poor week.

    40pts and only Tony V to go.

    then i have to agonisingly watch and wait for two days with no players involved as my red arrow becomes increasingly bigger......

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      shdnt u be more worried about the game at the villa parK?

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        there's a game going on there??

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  19. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Lee back for Bolton, good for him!

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Wow. Nice

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  20. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Man United 8-2 Swansea..

    Possible??

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      4-2 maybe

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    2. gledy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      1-1 more likely

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    3. udit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Yes, thanks for reminding me of that day. Anything is possible.

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    4. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      1-1

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    5. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I was thinking along similar lines. 6-0, is my thinking. They have to go for it. Gutted that Nani is on the bench. Mind you, City at home to QPR is a much easier task than ManU away to Sunderland, so really, I think it's all over now. Can't say I mind. Disappointing that it's an injection of money that has to unseat the over-and-over-again winners, but at least it keeps things interesting.

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  21. Simon March
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Everyone laughed when I talked about bringing Petrov in.

    Unfortunately everyone laughed so much I didn't.

    ðŸ™

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Really? There was a mini Petrov bandwagon on here.

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        aka Martin Petrol

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  22. kaz 96
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    c'mon villa, hold on!

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  23. Bale me Out
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    So is Jelavic captain failing bad or what? I'm not watching that game.

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  24. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    40 Points with 5 to go and Baps still to come..... 🙂 Am lovin it..

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  25. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Demps almost second Weak kick from the Aussie hands it straight back to Sunderland, but Dempsey nicks it off Turner and races clear! He can get a second but great defending O'Shea to get back to clear! Shocker from Turner.

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  26. Park the bus
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    as things stand, need at least 6 points from Valencia today.

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  27. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Pog and Klaxon of so Demps upfront and on penalties. Please score !!!

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  28. mclaren
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    This could be a great day to have United attacking players. Just sayin'.

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Hernandez owners will reap rewards imo, just sorry I bottled it

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      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        I'm in. Hernandez and Tony V. But I thought Rafael would have started

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    2. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Not if they are Nani and Rafa ðŸ™

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  29. njfsdkffslkf
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Heres some interesting stats for those comparing City "buying" the league versus United not and fergie building his title team with no big spending.

    Net spend between start of the 1986 season and start of the 1992 season:

    ManU (11th in table in 1986) 13m
    Next 4 Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal COMBINED: 14m
    Source: Soccerbase

    Net Spending 2006 to present season


    Man city 418,870,000

    Next 4 (United dont make Net spend top 4 due to Ronaldo sale )

    Chelsea Liverpool Spurs Villa COMBINED 373,000,000

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    1. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      That's all well and good and I have FFP stops that.

      However, that Everton game is the reason we won't win the league.

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    2. pukey
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      So you're basically proving that City have bought the title... yes?

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    3. udit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I don't quite understand exactly, what are you saying? City have 'bought' the league?

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        In realtive comparision with their rivals on net spending City now and United (also midtable in 1986) are very similar

        Find it funny City doing it now is buying the title. Yet United spent alot of money (in comparision with their rivals as to compare direct money is impossible) for a midtable team in the 80s pre success too.

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        1. udit
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Yes but to maintain it for 20 years after that AND hold of big spenders like City and Chelsea is quite remarkable without spending big yourself. Also, Man United spent that money in a duration of 6 years whilst city have mostly spent it in just 3 years. Half the duration. Also, several of United legends, have either been cheap or academy players, players like Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Cantona, Ronaldo(he wasn't cheap but he was in the end great business). Sure, United spent money, obviously you have to spend money at some point to get top quality players, but the point is to maintain it and spend it judiciously and City have most definitely NOT spent their money judiciously. Apart from Richards and Hart, tell me regular first team City academy player? Maybe in 20 years time City will hold the same stature as United, but they'll have to wait for that.

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          1. njfsdkffslkf
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            Your missing the point

            United went from midtable to champs as city look to be doing over a 6 year period (Pre youth team)

            Its nothing to do with youth team success and establishing a team but going from midtable spending to champs which both did and relative to their rivals they are almost exactly the same.

            Im not saying they hold the same stature im saying if City bought this league which many are saying then an objective look at how fergie got his initial success is very similar as shown above.

            Again its 2006 to now and 1986 to 1992. Not after. Both pre success, both midtable when they started spending. City have been said by manner to have bought there way to the top .....united ascension under fergusion to the first title is not much different when comparing to rivals in both eras.

            Im not comparing statures but merely showing City are not the first to do it and fergie did very similar but never gets such "you bought a title squad" for his first team

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            1. udit
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 7 months ago

              I get what you're saying, but you're figures are wrong, United only spent 10.7 million between 1986 - 1992. That's an average of 1.6 million per year.

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              1. udit
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 7 months ago

                oh and yes, but I do agree with the point that Man United did buy good players(obviously at a price) similar to what City are now doing. However, that spending was staggered, Most of City's has been in a rush, thanks to them and other ridiculous buys the market has become gross inflated.

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          2. Granville
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            Hart wasn't an academy player, they bought him from Shrewsbury.

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            1. udit
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 7 months ago

              Oh yeah, but he was still extremely cheap though wasn't he?

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    4. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I already saw this post on another forum and it's false. Liverpool were the biggest spenders from '86 on.

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Its net spending Granville.

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        1. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Have you checked the validity of those numbers? Someone on that thread refuted the Liverpool numbers.

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          1. njfsdkffslkf
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 7 months ago

            Yes 2 different sources including soccer lens and transfersleague co.uk records

            United in the 80s spent almost exact same as City today relative to their rivals. In fact United selling Ronaldo (which means they are not in top 4 net spend but are in overall spend stops it being like for like) so villa go into top 4 net spend instead

            If city bought this success United had a very similar path from midtable to 1992 success before the youth team came in when you comparing to rivals at time as money in football is incomparable.

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            1. Granville
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              • 16 Years
              13 years, 7 months ago

              transfersleague co.uk only have records back to the start of the premier league.

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              1. udit
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 7 months ago

                http://www.redcafe.net/f7/official-transfer-comparison-thread-311572/

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                1. Granville
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                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 7 months ago

                  Thanks for that Udit.

                  Copying and pasting from the internet is never a good idea to back up an argument.

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  30. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Cisse goal, Taarabt assist

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      My heart was in my mouth there, then remembered the Newcastle game was already finished! 🙂

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