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Sunday Dugout Discussion

2 September 2012 4238 comments
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Settle down, we’ve no less than three Premier League encounters to take us into Antiques Roadshow, with Fantasy points hopefully continuing to flow following yesterday’s drama. We’ve opened our Dugout Discussion chatroom to capture the real-time chatter, just in time for our first kick-off at Anfield, as Liverpool face the Gunners. Full line-ups here are…

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Allen, Sahin, Gerrard, Sterling, Borini, Suarez.
Substitutes: Jones, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson, Kelly, Coates.

Arsenal XI: Mannone, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Cazorla, Arteta, Diaby, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Giroud, Podolski.
Substitutes: Koscielny, Martinez, Santos, Ramsey, Coquelin, Gervinho, Walcott.

Later today, we’re treated to Newcastle vs Villa and Southampton vs United at St Mary’s. With Carlos Tevez delivering on his captaincy promised yesterday, all eyes will now be on Robin Van Persie as he takes on the Saints as United’s chief goal threat in the absence of the injured Wayne Rooney.

Enjoy today’s games, we’ll see you on the other side with the Stock Check…

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    which 2 would you pick once kun is back

    A.Kun and Guthrie

    B. Pog and Hazard

    cheers

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    1. red beard
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      c. stick with tevez and haz

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    2. Kagawa-san-mia
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      B.
      Guthrie weakens A

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    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Even with Kun back Tevez will remain as central striker, Stick with Carlito

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  2. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Nolan or Pienaar for most fantasy points this season?

    Same for Yaya or Kagawa?

    Cheers 🙂

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    1. Aaa fantasy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      noble + kags

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  3. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    sahin and podolski have some history from bundesliga. funny video of sahin rubbing it in after scoring a goal;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZhHVtDhRw

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      That's quality

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  4. Khazana
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Trying to fix on a wildcard team. I think this looks decent

    Jaas/ Bego

    Koscielny/ Rafael/ Ivanovic/ Hughes/ 4.0 Def

    Kagawasaki/ Cazorla/ Hazard/ Guthrie/ Michu

    Tevez/ Torres/ Fletch

    0.0 in the bank

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    1. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He he ... Cazorla love

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    2. LMFAO
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      No RVP?

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        I got a fright when I saw this in the recent comments 🙂

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  5. som3awy
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Wayne Rooney ‏@WayneRooney
    Diaby is a player don't know why he doesn't play more games

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Good observation there.

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      1. Dale Cooper
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        LOL.

        Diaby was very good a few years ago, before injuries kicked in. I think it was 2007/8, when he could be deadly going with power into penalty area.

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Last season he was stricken by injury wasn't he?

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    3. BigUps
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He's an injury risk. If he's healthy, he typically gets some play, but he's not healthy often.

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    4. Balotellitubbies
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      What a doughnut, same reason he wont be playing for 6 weeks.

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      1. som3awy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        😀

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  6. SkyByBo
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Gerrard, the weak link in Liverpools team!

    Not a pass and move player, constantly gives the ball away. Hes always been about the long ball or the final through pass to a striker running off the last defender aka torres at his peak. Does not fit into this system at all.

    Liverpool also have a terrible bench, plan B is now at West Ham and plan A isnt working!

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    1. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Couldn't disagree more....

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Gerrard has given the ball away more than anyone, at fault for the goal, and generally looks way past it.

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    2. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      i agree about gerrard been finished since last season. no striker on the bench disappoints me

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    3. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Disagree about Gerrard completely.

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    4. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Stevie G is a GENERAL!

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Generally sh*t!

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        1. Gnubuntu
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Blasphemy. I'm an Arsenal fan by the way.

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      2. Bolt-on
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Was

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    5. Mr Ron Burgundy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      hes English thats why!.......we cant pass water never mind a 10yd ball!!!!

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    6. Stat virgin
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He's still a good player, but doesn't fit into a Rogers team at all, Allen is amazing though

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    7. scoopyb
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Agree, they are not a pass and move team.

      I feel for Brendan!

      so annoying to watch.

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    8. Third Eye Vision
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      The red shite's bench is poor at the moment. Surely the no replacement for Carroll fiasco goes down as their biggest managerial mistake since Kenny's public backing of racism.

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  7. lfcserg
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    any team news?

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  8. Nighthawk
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I hate the way Neville always says 'Gerrr-ard'.

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  9. tommo-uk-
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone think Suarez is completely over rated?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      No he's a world class player, just can't finish. He's having a stinker today. His first touch is awful.

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      1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        If he can't finish, then he obviously isn't world class!

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Why don't people get this?

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          1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            It perplexes me, as the concept is so simple! A striker that can't do his job, is obviously not world class, as a striker is supposed to be the best finisher in the team -- that is his job haha!

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    2. lfcserg
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      No your just retarded, cause he played a shit 45 mins. Wake up to yourself

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      1. tommo-uk-
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        He was poor last week aswell imo, so many better strikers out there. If he was World class he would be bagging 20+ goals a season, especially when you have someone like Gerrard just behind you.

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        1. DLL18
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          He's playing in the wrong position, he needs someone in front of him to finish the chances.

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      2. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Good point, well made. 🙄

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    3. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      if you put a decent striker in front of the men he will def created the chances, much harder when he plays the lone striker role

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    4. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Apparently he's better than RvP..

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      1. tommo-uk-
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Who said that?

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      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Does he fart better? 😀

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    5. Kagawa-san-mia
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      hands up
      all flash no end product

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    6. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Nope

      Its just that he cannot score

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      1. Kagawa-san-mia
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        hes a striker so............

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Scoring goals is not the only thing strikers are good for. He's more suited to a support striker role, like he plays for Uruguay.

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          1. Kagawa-san-mia
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            overrated imo
            dives a lot too

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    7. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He's nailed on at least.....

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    8. drughi
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      no i think hes great always creating chances but he needs to step up his game when it comes to the last part which is putting the ball in the net.

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    9. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Needs a second striker alongside him

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    10. som3awy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Over rated? Are you drunk?

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    11. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      no,i think that he is UNDER rated

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Ah, there you are. Does he fart better? 😛

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    12. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He is a world class winger/creative midfielder being played as a striker

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      1. tommo-uk-
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        lol at least we got a few replies to that comment 😉

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    13. Yes Don
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Well shite

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    14. Mr Ron Burgundy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      yes

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  10. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Gibbs nearly attacked Giroud there

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    1. drughi
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      had he done the same if it was RVP ? hehe

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    2. som3awy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yea lol

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    3. buachaillbui
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      saw that,

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    4. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      +1 he went nuts. Imagine if Giroud went nuts at him every time Gibbs was out of position!

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      1. tommo-uk-
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Is Gibbs having memory problems? He messed up 3 attacks that half with awful final balls!

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    5. Gnubuntu
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Deserved it though.

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    6. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Gibbs should take a look at his first half crosses and STFU

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      1. tommo-uk-
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        +1

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  11. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Any other Yaya owners considering booting him if playing WC? (let me explain)

    If Aguero makes his return after the international break, you'd think Yaya wouldn't play so far forward. I don't think Citeh can afford to be so careless with their defending all season and I wouldn't be surprised to see Yaya sit further back.

    Thoughts? Its just a consideration.

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    1. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I think I'll hang onto him until we actually see the switch as opposed trying to anticipating it. I think hes an old fashioned box to ox player who plays deep but also seems to get into the box loads....

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      1. An Púca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        when the Champions Lg starts, I expect to see him rested for a lot of prem lg games

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    2. tommo-uk-
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Surely Yaya cant keep scoring playing CDM. It amazes me as city have so many attacking players and he is scoring and assisting more than any of them. I dont have him as have just brought in Hazard for Bale.

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        His goals have been right place at right time. I know you could argue its good positioning but I think that applies more to instinctive strikers.

        I'm planning to w/c and get Hazard, Cazorla, Barfa, Nolan and Maloney in my mid

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    3. Kingston
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Ya ya is waisted as a deep lying central midfielder.I'm pretty sure he'll continue in his usual box to box style

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    4. Aaa fantasy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      i think the solution to their defensive woes is simply to hold back on pushing forward the fullbacks. They look better when yaya toure does surge forward...so i think he's a good bet if you've got him. Having said that i don't have him in my team.

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    5. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      DIABY FTW!

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  12. BigUps
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    It would be interesting to see what Theo could do up top. I like Podolski out wide more than up top. Theo can't cross the ball and Gervinho is still there for a sub if Arsenal need a winger. Likely won't happen, but I'd be intrigued if it did.

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      + loads. I have no idea why Wenger has never experimented properly. His crossing is awful. He lacks a footballing brain but has raw talent. Would be great down the middle

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      1. Trigg â­ï¸
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        For someone who turned Henry from a winger into a striker as well! Mystifying.

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      2. Saint & Reevesy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        He was great for us through the middle. Just having hat pace means hat defenders have to play 10 yards deeper so it give Cazorla loads more room too.

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        1. BigUps
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          The entire team can't cross the ball a lick. I've never understood the desire for a target player up top. Arsenal need a David Silva type of attacker. One that continually tries to get behind defenses via the thru ball.

          Ironically, Suarez would be perfect.

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        2. Mr Ron Burgundy
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          he cant finish thats why. Crossing a ball is easier and he struggles with that......and passing a 10yd ball!!

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  13. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Diaby and Diame. Two of the most underrated premier league players?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Diaby has always been quality imo. Problem is, as soon as he gets into his stride he just gets injured. Far better player than arteta imo, much better athlete, great on the ball, can attack and defend. Real box to box mid.

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      1. BigUps
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Arteta is a better distributor than Diaby IMO. However, I don't like Arteta's lack of pace matched with Per's. It's a tough call. Diaby certainly adds much needed pace to the Arsenal defensive mid.

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    2. manu4life99
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Replace 'overrated' with 'similarly named'

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  14. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Do we think mata will stay as hazards side kick or has he been unlucky and will get in on hazards potential asissts soon.

    Could be a good differential

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      down to 9.1 mil

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Mata has been playing so deep, like a quarterback role.

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        1. Home Run Baker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          I'm not sure the analogy quite works

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          1. SkyByBo
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Picking up the ball from the defence and playing it into forward positions.... works ok in my book.

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  15. vodkapad
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I can see liverpool winning this

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    1. drughi
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      2-1 liverpool

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  16. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Didn't watch Ligue 1 last year, is Giroud's style more suited to lots of crosses into the box and lots of long balls played upto him or can he play the short sharp passing game and anticipate the through balls?

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      more of a crosses into the box

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      1. David Davros
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        His movement looks great. Just doesn't look confident

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        1. SouthCoastSaint
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 8 months ago

          Lacks confidence yes but I think he's been ambling around so far

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 8 months ago

            Yeah he got beaten to the ball from behind by Skrtel.

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            1. SouthCoastSaint
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 8 months ago

              Yeah I saw that. Donkey

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      2. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Bit of a problem then, Arsenal not known for their crossing game. Giroud will have to adjust or Arsenal will have to.

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    2. Balotellitubbies
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      From what I saw on youtube he is a very good header of the ball and tends to rifle them in early with his left, maybe he just needs to settle.

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    3. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      It's suited for American football size goals.

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  17. red beard
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    how did johnson look for sunderland yesterday?

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Good but McClean looked better.

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  18. Louis Van Balls
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Bale captain and only 12 points and I want to cry. Worst GW EVER!

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      It's karma because of your link

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      1. Saint & Reevesy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        +100000

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      2. Mr Ron Burgundy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        +1000

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    2. Nighthawk
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      12? Hahaha!!

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      1. Schwarzer
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        That's hilarious! Poor thing 😛

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  19. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Love how Cammy tries to look seductive in the H&S commercial. Gets me all tingly! 🙂

    Then that shouty Italian comes on and I want to pull out my eyeballs and stick them in my ears.

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    1. DLL18
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      H&S, it's Ladbrokes you twonk.

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      1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Is it really!?! 😆 should've kept my eyeballs in longer!

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  20. buachaillbui
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Missed most of the match flicking between other sports, has Sahin done much?

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    1. Nighthawk
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Who?

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  21. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan? 46-52

    Tight.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Cazorla doing the business.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Need a liverpool goal. Don't mind if it doesn't happen though :p

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah it will go to the wire

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  22. Manani
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    what is people predicting to be the final score?
    1-1?

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    1. takemehome
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      i backed the draw and united and newcastle win

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      1. King Nemanja
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Me too

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    2. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      1-2 Gerrard to equalise, Carzorla winner (free kick)

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      3-1 liverpool

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        Really? Arsenal looking like a very organised team.

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    4. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      2-0 to the Arsenal

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    5. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      😆
      so conclusion is no one knows 😀

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  23. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Button wins 😀

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    1. MICHELIN
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Räikkönen?

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      1. Dynamic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        3rd I think

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      😀

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  24. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Skrtel yellow

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  25. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Maicon and Garcia for Citeh.

    How will they fit in Citeh fans?!

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      I'm obviously not one, but by my reckoning a 352 is on the cards. First choice mid 3 would be Yaya, Garcia, Silva flanked by Maicon and Kolarov.

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      1. Mr Ron Burgundy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 8 months ago

        except when they play Tottenham for obvious "Bale" related reasons!

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  26. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    the way it's going, The only move I'll be making this week is Kaca > Sterling.

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  27. JELLYFISH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    57pts so far with 3 still to play. Come on Pod, one more in the second half pls.....

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  28. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Massive mistake from Rodgers to let Carroll leave. Borini is not good enough to lead the line.

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Honestly don't think Carroll would suit this team either. Think Borini was not the best of buys but could come good, think they should have aimed for someone better though. If they had managed to get Llorente that would have been an absolutely perfect signing. Cost too much for them though.

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      No fwds on the bench

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    3. DLL18
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      He's not Suarez is.

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Suarez is. Borini's playing on the wing.

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  29. Saint & Reevesy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    SOUTHCOAST- what do you make of the ox since he left us?

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 8 months ago

      Has appeared from the bench a lot. Not the impact I thought he would make. Good business for us but I'd still like to have kept him!

      Can you imagine if we had Bale, Walcott and the Ox back? And maybe Crouch? Wowza

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  30. Dale Cooper
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    I'd like to see Coquelin stepping in at some point of the season. He has a great potential, reseambles Flamini in his final year at Arsenal. Hopefully not when it'll come to contract negotiations.

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