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24 September 2012 2298 comments
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Having splashed the cash on Eden Hazard and Oscar over the summer, Chelsea’s attacking midfield options looked mouth-watering going into the new season. The prospect of the pair lining up with Juan Mata behind Fernando Torres suggested a change in the Blues’ playing style but until last weekend the trio of number 10 types had failed to feature together from the start in any competition.

While Hazard has made an instant impact this season, Mata and Oscar have been used tentatively by Roberto Di Matteo after a summer of Olympic activity with Spain and Brazil respectively. As they both start to approach full match-fitness, Di Matteo unleashed the pair alongside Hazard for the visit of Stoke on Saturday. A late Ashley Cole finally broke the stubborn Stoke resistance as the Blues earned a narrow 1-0 win and, post-match, the Chelsea manager admitted the trio will require plenty more game time together in order to build up an understanding:

“It’s the first time we have tried it, it certainly needs more work and practice, to tactically integrate them into our system. I thought today it worked very well, but it will take time for them to know each other better. I want them to have mobility and rotation, they are very intelligent at finding free space, we lacked a bit of width at times so we needed our full backs to provide us with that.”

The average position map from the Stoke game (below left) sums up Di Matteo’s words perfectly. Mata (10), Oscar (11), Hazard (17) and Fernando Torres (9, obscured) were all in virtually identical positions when in possession. Interchanging positions, dropping deep and foraging forward, the three attacking midfielders ensured Chelsea had plenty of possession in the final third of the pitch; the hosts had 281 touches in this crucial area compared to 204 in the previous home match against Newcastle (below right).

Indeed, looking at the Magpies showdown, the player positions were a lot more defined. Mata’s (10) tendency to drift inside when on the ball is in direct opposition to his replacement Ramires (7) in that Gameweek 2 match. With Ryan Bertrand (34) offering natural width on the left, the 4-2-3-1 formation is far more apparent. Di Matteo’s remark on the full-backs is also reflected in both maps – Branislav Ivanovic (2) and Ashley Cole (3) were far more prominent in attack in the Stoke game (left), foraging forward and offering balance on the flanks.

Mins/TchTouches Final 3rdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsChance CrtdGoal Attmpts
Mata155322553
Oscar1.150273325
Hazard1.145301221

Looking at the stats of the attacking midfield three from Saturday, what’s immediately apparent is that they are almost identical for minutes per touch, with Mata judging edging in with one every minute. Despite his substitute withdrawal just after the hour mark, Hazard’s stats still stand up well in comparison to the other two here – indeed, he received only two less passes in the final third than Mata, despite playing almost half an hour less than the Spaniard. There’s no doubt his display was less than sparkling; he made the fewest dribbles and had the least number of goal attempts against Stoke but Hazard’s creativity saw him provide two goalscoring opportunities for team mates; the same number as Oscar, who managed the full game.

Hazard Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5
Hazard’s Fantasy owners may be a little concerned after his home blank last weekend. The Belgian was our Captain Poll favourite for Gameweek 5 but lasted just 62 minutes before making way for Victor Moses as Di Matteo chose to rest the Belgian after the midweek Champions League match with Juventus. A look at his average positions in the first five Gameweeks (below left), however, show that he was actually further forward when on the ball last weekend than in any match so far. It’s also reflected in the stats – although Hazard averaged 87.8 minutes over his first four matches, he was more involved in Chelsea’s play against the Potters.

MinsTouches Final 3rdMins/ TouchMins/ Pass RcvdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsMin/Chance CrtdGoal Attempts
Hazard GW 562451.11.7301331.11
Hazard GW1-487.8361.31.821.24.55.835.13

He managed 45 touches in the final third on Saturday, bettering his Gameweek 1-4 average of 36, while the Belgian was also on the ball more often – 1.1 minutes per touch to 1.3. Hazard also received 30 passes in the final third against Stoke, well up on his previous average of 21.2. The issue here, though, is that while his overall team involvement improved, his individual stats regressed. A single successful dribble was way down on the 4.5 per game, just three touches in the box versus 5.8, and one shot at goal compared to the average of three – Hazard needs to perhaps rediscover his selfish streak a little more rather than get caught up in intricate passing patterns.

Mata Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5
As the average position map shows (above right), Mata was further forward on Saturday than in any of his previous Gameweeks. His stats are alarmingly better and suggests the Spaniard could well be set for a resurgence in such a system. In his previous matches, Mata played a more withdrawn role, allowing Hazard to wreak havoc but last weekend his role took a significant turn for the better.

MinsTouches Final 3rdMins/ TouchMins/ Pass RcvdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsMin/Chance CrtdGoal Attempts
Mata GW 5895511.5322517.83
Mata GW1-478.3231.11.3171358.81.3

In the attacking final third, Mata had 55 touches and received 32 passes against Stoke – his averages across the first four Gameweeks were 23 and 17 respectively. He made double the number of dribbles, found his way into the box more (five touches to three). In terms of creativity, he provided a goalscoring opportunity every 17.8 minutes against the Potters, compared to his previous average of 58.8 minutes and Mata also fired three shots at goal in the Gameweek 5 win – again, a real improvement on his 1.3 average.

It’s an intriguing turn of events that may well bring Mata back onto the Fantasy radar. Both he and Hazard began the Fantasy Premier League season priced at 9.5 but while the Belgian has soared to 10.3, Mata has dropped down to 8.9. The signs are certainly promising – indeed, Mata supplied the assist for Cole’s winner – if Di Matteo gives the trio regular outings together.

Full Backs Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5

Finally, a quick look at the full-back stats. As the average position maps highlight, both Ivanovic (left) and Cole (right) were further forward against Stoke than they managed in any other Gameweek.

The comparison for both players in Gameweek 5 against their Gameweek 1-4 averages clearly indicates how the pair’s potential for attacking points could be further increased. Although both players actually saw less of the ball overall, Ivanovic made 29 touches on the Stoke final third, up on his previous average of 18.2. He also received more passes in this area, by 21 to 12.2, while the right-back produced more crosses and saw more of the ball in the box. The same applies to Cole in all the above categories. More touches (23 to 15) and passes received in the final third (15 to nine), more crosses and touches in the box, with the left-back slotting home the late winner.

Mins/TouchTouches Final 3rdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdPen Area TchsCrosses
Ivanovic GW 51.5292164
Ivanovic GW1-41.218.212.22.83.8
Cole GW 51.5231532
Cole GW1-41.315911.2

It may well be that Di Matteo uses such a system in more straightforward home games as it clearly asks more from the pair from an attacking perspective – such a formation away from home could leave the Blues exposed on the flanks if the pair bomb forward as they did against Stoke. Their contribution will be key to the system, though, and if the Blue can continue the defensive resolve that has already accrued four clean sheets in the first five, Ivanovic and Cole – already first and second in the FPL defender rankings – could well maintain their strong showings as Chelsea continue to evolve.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. Audiobully
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Bad idea Baines(c) this week?

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    1. Acquafresca
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      No why.

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      1. Audiobully
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Really am usually against defenders as captain, but guess he is more of a winger really and clean sheet is a bonus

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It is always a bad idea. Until it works. Then - it is a stroke of genius!!! Odds of more than 6 to 1 ...

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yep

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    4. MJ6987
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes a bit cos I think Soton will score and there are better attacking options.

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    5. Midtable
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Could do worse

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    6. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think Southampton will score.

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      1. Audiobully
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Don't, I think, have any stand out captains this week

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        1. Mílanista
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          13 years, 5 months ago

          You have Robin Van Persie.

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        2. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          FFS! You have RVP!

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    7. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm doing it even though I have Pienaar and Fellaini. Baines will get CS, attacking returns and baps against Soton.

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    8. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, imo.

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    9. Spencer
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going with Baines or Pienaar.

      Currently on Baines.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Your team must be shit

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        1. Spencer
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Where's yours Dunny?

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I don't play this silly game

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        2. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          No...

          but having a clue would help him.

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        3. Audiobully
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Insightful, thanks

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      2. Audiobully
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        My thinking too, has to be Everton this week. Have both and think baines will deliver at least an assist

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    10. 4vets
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      You have RVP

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      1. Audiobully
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        True but AVB seems defensively minded and might go there not to lose and never attempt to win

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        1. 4vets
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          13 years, 5 months ago

          So you like Totty's def record?

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          1. Audiobully
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Not exactly but think Utd are playing poorly and might only get 1. Everton I think will score 3 and Baines seems to be involved in everything good Everton do

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Go your own way... Man U v Totty at home and you have Man U's best striker... go figure.

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              1. Audiobully
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                so you captaining RVP this week then?

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            2. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              I'd say 3 goals for United isn't a crazy possibility.

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              1. Parm
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Never.

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                1. King Eric, in America
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Never? Surely you've overdosed on cough medicine?

                  Care to wager your Berb head?

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                  1. Parm
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                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    Woops, I meant 3 goals for United is never a crazy possibility.

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                  2. King Eric, in America
                    • 15 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    Good. I mean 'darn' ... was looking to do my bit to get rid of that head ... 😀

                    He looks as if he's vomiting Palm tree.

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          2. Scroobius Mac
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            13 years, 5 months ago

            We haven't conceded many though - just in every game. I'll probably go for RVP and I expect Man u to win but I don't think it will be a thrashing.

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        2. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          AVB doesn't seem defensive or offensive minded.

          He does sport some serious skinny pants suits, though. They're sold in the 'Boys' section.

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            1. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              *vomits in mouth*

              In fairness, that link was *never* going anywhere good. My bad.

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    11. Scroobius Mac
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Theres two rules to Baines Club
      1) Never bench Baines
      2) Never captain Baines

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      1. Audiobully
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for the advise. That leaves Pienaar or RVP for me then this week

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        1. Audiobully
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          *advice*

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Good advice 🙂

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  2. gerrard08
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    WC done !!!!!

    bego/foster
    demel/baines/gibbs/rafael/s.taylor
    fellaini/gerrard/santi/bale/sterling
    berba/lambert/aguero

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    1. NiallQuinnsTaxiCabs
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Gerrard is lying too deep to influence the game significantly across the season. Much better value elsewhere.

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      1. gerrard08
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        sahin will play holding role and gerrard to play free role ,
        corners and free kicks nad good form and bonus points if not then im looking at mata

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    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Like it.

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  3. Mr. Mystic
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I've had Dyer in from the start he's worth 5.7 if I sold him, is he worth hanging on to or shall I hoof him out now?! please help!

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  4. QWOP
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How's this WC team looking?

    Begovic-Ruddy
    Cashley-Hughes-Demel-Clyne-Ridgewell
    Hazard-Cazorla-Michu-Pienaar-Maloney
    RVP-Tevez-Berba

    Thanks

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why Cole?

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      1. QWOP
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Been in my team since start. Why not?

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Fair enough, I thought it might have been a knee-jerk based on his first goal in years. Chelsea's fixtures are poor so now may be the time to get rid since you're on wildcard. Have you got any money in the bank?

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          1. QWOP
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, .3m. You thinking Baines?

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Indeed. The fixtures are so much better and Baines is a far more likely source of attacking points. You have a front 7 good enough to play every week, Maloney can be downgraded to Guthrie/Sterling/Puncheon to raise some money.

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              1. QWOP
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Yea, was thinking that. Was about to do it last night, but I amn't too sure about Puncheon.

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                1. Mílanista
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                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  He would sit on the bench nearly every week.

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                  1. QWOP
                    • 13 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    True, but I like to have the option to play any 7 from my front 8. May have to sacrifice that though...

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            2. Daniel Exeter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              If you're wildcarding, Baines is a must

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              1. QWOP
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Ok, massive brain fart there. Just realised that I already did Maloney to Puncheon, so basically I need to shave .4 off the above team to accomodate Baines!

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    2. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Looks quality to me.

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  5. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Rangel, Michu, Tevez --> Davies, Pienaar, Aguero

    4 point hit (have 2 FTs) worth it, or wait another week to head for Kun Town?

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  6. Cahill
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Rate my Wildcard team please please please?

    Jussi, Begovic

    Baines, Ridgewell, Cuellar, Hughes, Clyne

    Cazorla/Bale, Fellaini, Michu, BenArfa, Puncheon/Sterling

    VP, Aguero, Fletcher

    Opinions on the dashes and anything else would be fantastic! struggling as is!!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Well, we like a little more decisiveness around here. 🙂

      Cazorla and Puncheon ... imo.

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      1. Cahill
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thank you kindly!!

        kind of leaning that way! sterling will only give me a headache making me think i have to play him!

        any other issues? ridgewell nailed on?

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    2. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cazorla and Sterling for me, Liverpool have some decent fixtures and are bound to pick up some results soon. Also personally I would go for Berba over Fletch from next week onwards.

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      1. Cahill
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        cheers! just feel that i get sterling ill feel i have to play him and he might do nothing!

        yeah, giving fletcher a week, he has 1 game to impress or its greasy bulgarian time!!

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  7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Blimey. Have I been drinking ... or have you??? 😀

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Are you asking your second side here - Mr. Doosrahide? 🙂

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        *Hyde. 😉

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        1. LeBron - King of Argentina
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I like *hide 😛

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        DoosraJekyll

        MMWHyde ...

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        1. LeBron - King of Argentina
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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  8. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I am surprised that so many on here are considering selling Tevez. He is the top scoring forward, well priced (especially if you've had him for a while) and his fixtures are just coming good!

    I assume it's because (a) he was rested at the weekend - everyone will be at some point and / or (b) Aguero is now fit - but he was at the start of the season and everyone wanted Tevez back then.

    Don't get it.

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    1. Midtable
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Citeh are a lottery more than most. I would rather go into a gameweek without hiding behind my hands when reading Mancini's selection. The return of Aguero makes this a more likely scenario

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        But, as I said, most people had Tevez at the start when Aguero was fit, what is different now?

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          The difference is now 1.1 rather than 2.5.
          I would always have Aguero if they were the same price. Plus we've started to suss out the bargains and prices were already generous.

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        2. Cahill
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Aguero is a better fantasy option (penalties) etc!

          and they are much closer in price now than at the start!

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nor do I, but what can you do.

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    3. floydy_floyd
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      So many options up top. Wouldn't feel safe captaining him

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    4. McGurn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I understand it to a point as he will be rotated. Aguero is the main man so will play most weeks and Mancini seems to like Dzeko (also add in Baloteli) so he will miss minutes. At his low price he is still value but he is a risky captain pick now (as in RVP) so i can understand the certainty of Fletcher, Bebs, Suarez etc who will play 90 every week. I think i will hold for a few more weeks though.

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      1. floydy_floyd
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        So you think aguero will play nearly all CL and PL games?

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        1. McGurn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I dont know but reckon he will play most of them. Makes Tevez more risky but as i said earlier still probably worth the risk due to his value

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      2. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I suppose there is the captaincy certainly thing, although that will be the case for the likes of Aguero and RVP as well. Annoyingly it is those "easy" home fixtures that give rise to the most rotation of these big players when the managers feel they can get away with it!

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        1. McGurn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Exactly , RVP and Tevez will always play the big games but are very likely to be rested for the ones you want them to play for. In the long term, yes they will scor 20+ but not necessarily when you captian them

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          1. MJ6987
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            See my alternative team theory down there then...

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  9. The Mighty I
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lambert and Sterling in for Pog and McLean for a 4 point hit?

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  10. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    gah now considering taking an 8 pointer......because baines isnt enough, i 'must' have fellienaar!!! i swor i wouldnt go crazy for bandwagons this season

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    1. Midtable
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure the phrase 'fellienaar' will catch on mate

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        It clearly has ... 😉

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        1. Midtable
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I demand a recount

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      2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        piellaini?

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        1. Midtable
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Miles better

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          1. McGurn
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            agree

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      im gonna have to tell my self that its long term and 8 pointers for long term changes are fine.......repeat ad nauseum

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      1. McGurn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        8 points for long term changes are fine

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          basically i can play baines and pienaar/fellaini for at least the next 6 bar injury

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      2. Midtable
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'm a fan of taking hits. No pain no gain

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  11. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I really hope the DGW is GW10 😀

    AVL(H) and REA(H) 😀

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fletcher + Mig combo FTW 🙂

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'll get in Fletcher and McClean/Cuellar just for that!

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Early January I reckon. Could be earlier if they both get knocked out of the cup this week.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Reading @ QPR and Sunderland @ MK Dons.....you never know! 😀 😉

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I hope AJ is bloody fit by then. I'd love it to be next week if fit (WIG and RDG) but no way it'll happen on that short notice.

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  12. Mr. Mystic
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I’ve had Dyer in from the start he’s worth 5.7 if I sold him, is he worth hanging on to or shall I hoof him out now?! please help

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    1. An Púca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      get rid...i did yesterday

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  13. bola
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is Duff nailed on?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      **Giggles** 😀 😆

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  14. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Damn it. Pienaar to rise tonight.
    Friedel -> Foster
    Dyer -> Pienaar
    (-4 points)
    ?
    Can’t afford P-nut on his own
    (About to hit the hay)

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I would but fortunately don't have to. I think Pie will do very well and Foster is a season keeper (heh) for me.

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  15. gerrard08
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A )

    foster/bego
    demel/hughes/clyne/baines/saylor
    felliani/pienaar/bale/maloney/sterling
    rvp/suarez/aguero

    B )

    bego/foster
    demel/baines/gibbs/rafael/s.taylor
    fellaini/gerrard/santi/bale/sterling
    berba/lambert/aguero

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I don't like either TBH, both have two Pool players.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Jesus! I support the feckers but have none and don't want any of them yet.

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          you not going to have a flutter on sterling for gw7 & 8?

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        2. gerrard08
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          ?

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  16. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Foster, Begovic
    Baines, Rafael, Gibbs, Gorkss, Demel (or 2 other random 4m defs)
    Cazorla, Bale, Ben Arfa, Fellaini, Michu
    Aguero, Berbatov, Lambert

    Possible wildcard team, does anyone like it?

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Oh, 1m in the bank as well

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I just think any team without RVP is playing with fire.

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I thought I'd get this, but don't you think it's a reasonable gamble until United start looking like the team they can be? I think he'd need to do an awful lot of scoring while my replacements did not to burn me badly at 13.5m. And even then I could have a cheeky gamble on Rooney instead without rejigging all too much.

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          1. Granville
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            United can play as bad as they did at the weekend, and RVP will still score goals. Aguero and Berbatov don't tend to score goals away from home.

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            1. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Hmmm. Absolutely, a player on penalties can get goals even when his team is not as great as it can be.

              For 2.4m more I feel Aguero should be roughly equally good value wise still, don't you? I actually think he's a 30 goal a year striker who now might not reach that because of his early injury.

              The one thing I'll really miss is obviously the option to captain a big Manchester United player, and that will be bad.

              Chances on Wayne Rooney being back on penalties? For 13.5 penalties are an absolute must for Persie as far as I'm concerned. So expensive!

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        2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i have self imposed fire

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        3. Pratik
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You should try it some time.....Who knew it could be so fun!

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    2. Audiobully
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No UTD going forward?

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thought I'd get Wayne Rooney in later on if United start looking a bit better

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Who do you bench from that front 8? I'd prefer RVP and a 4.5m mid.

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        The one with the shittiest fixture. Lambert this week.

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    4. floydy_floyd
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Downgrade a mid

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    5. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I love it!

      You should check my wc team - http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/36642/event-history/5/

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Absolute beaut of a team, Pratik

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        1. Pratik
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Pity the last-minute Dyer move though.

          Just took a wild punt on Dyer->Fellaini and Hazard->Gerrard (to afford the 1st move).....The second one is absolute crazy! I am going to be sweating during Chelsea' match against Norwich, but on a 3 week scale, Gerrard should beat Hazard. I expect a slightly more advance role for him, and a little rotation for Hazard. Let's hope I'm right.

          Don't be scared of a team without RVP. Benching issues can be handled to a certain extent. Fulham+Southampton rotate extremely well.

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  17. DRIZ ✅
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    4 green arrows in a row.

    good start.

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on where you started 😉

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Vague.

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  18. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Alternative WC defence options, what do you think is best

    1.
    Baines Gibbs Olsson (Demel, Nelsen)

    2
    Baines RAFAEL Olsson (Demel, Nelsen)

    3.
    Baines JENKINSON/Gibbs RAFAEL Olsson (Nelsen)

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      3, offers the 3 "top" attacking defenders if you pick Gibbo.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'm tempted to gamble on Rafael and switch him out for a cheapo in a few weeks...He will get so many rises if he gets a CS or goal in the next 2.

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          His willingness to attack is unreal....his attitude to defending on the other hand.... 😉

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            in fairness the defensive aspect of his game has been better over the last couple of weeks. But his attacking potential has convinced me to keep him and sell Hangeland to acquire Sagna instead.

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      1

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The third one, with Gibbbs in it. Or the first one.

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    4. The Sundance Kid
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Could you do Baines, Jenkinson, Rafael, Olsson and Demel?

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        The reason I'm not too keen on BOTH Jenko and Rafael is they are both likely to get dropped/rotated at some point.

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  19. The Sundance Kid
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Why are so many people ditching Swansea players?

    Dyer 62k transfers out
    Michu 40k transfers out

    Next three fixtures for Swansea : stk, RDG, WIG...

    Surely GW10 would be the time?

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      People have short memories where Michu is concerned. He's just about the best value forward in the game.

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      dyer because of his red.

      michu because he hasnt scored lately but i am keeping.

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      1. The Sundance Kid
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        But dyer's suspension will be in Carling Cup game won't it?

        Can only think that people want Feliani (7.1) and most people who got Michu in earlyish will have him worth that sort of amount.

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    3. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Dyer is looking to be a possible rotation issue and Michu is now contending with other MFs in the same bracket who are producing.

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    4. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Jerking that knee.

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  20. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Righty... good nighty!

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  21. hazza
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lescott
    £6.4

    Cuellar
    £4.5 NA

    Hangeland
    £5.0

    Jenkinson
    £4.7

    Rangel
    £5.1

    Who would you ship out for Baines? I have 2.5 in the bank so cant do Cuellar 🙁

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd tell Lescott to pee off if I were you.

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      R
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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        T
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        1. Pratik
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          +

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    3. Audiobully
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rangel, without Taylor and Chico they look suspect and Williams has made two gaffs in the last 2 weeks.

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    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I would chuck Lescott and it will leave you with more change. Anyone else and you'll have problems deciding who to bench some weeks.

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    5. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Jenkinson

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    6. Midtable
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lescott, city arent keeping clean sheets and subject to rotation or Rangel, swans defence is ropey

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    7. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rangel

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    8. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rangel nearly scored twice at the weekend and Chico is back.

      Lescott for me.

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      1. Black Knights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1. I'm doing Lescott for Baines this week, despite his heroics this weekend!

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  22. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Michu-> Fellaini?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think Michu will be better long term but it's hard to ignore Evertons form and fixtures. Be aware that Moyes said Fellaini will not always play as far forward and will have quite a bit of competition when everyone is fit

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        hmmm, interesting thanks... I guess with anichebe doing so well he's going to have to figure out how to have Anche, Jelly and Fellaini in the same team!

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    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      dont do it brian, keep the faith until gw9

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        hmm, how about Morrison->Fellaini and Vermaelen->Jags? Everton are on fire and fixtures the best for the next 8 fixtures!

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  23. Live4pool
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    what do people think of a front 3 of

    berbatov - fletcher - ba

    have berba fletcher and tevez at the moment, and ba's price is rising tonight

    so would you advice to drop tevez for ba (if i'm doing it it has to be now)?

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    1. hazza
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I like it but I am waiting one more week for tevez

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      1. Live4pool
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        but i reckon ba's price wil rise not just once this week...

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ba = bah. Tevez is a long-term keeper, imo.

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good today but no RVP and Tevez will kill your season

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  24. QWOP
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Baines and Clark

    or

    B) Cashley and Ridgewell?

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  25. gerrard08
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    gerrard/sterling or pienaar/ben arfa for gw6,7

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  26. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Just seen that Foster has lost a save in addition to Brunt losing his assist but baps are the same. Am I to assume they will not change now?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nope, the Gameweek is now "Complete".

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      For the sake of one point, and I own Foster.

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  27. Lovzat
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Graham, Hazard and DDG to RVP, Nolan and Foster ? Yay or nay ?

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  28. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    with trying to stuff my midfield, im worried the only person who could make way longer term is yaya.....does this sound like a bad move?? i have tevez too

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  29. DementedDaddyDex
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Got 2 FT, what do people think?

    1. Barnett > Nelsen &
    2. Guthrie > Sterling/Puncheon

    3. Just one of 1/2 and save transfer?

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  30. QWOP
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Baines and Clark

    or

    B) A.Cole and Ridgewell?

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