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6 October 2012 3450 comments
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We have our first kick-off of the weekend and we have a beauty to getting things rolling. Fantasy managers are treated to watching their Man City assets dance around Martin O’Neill’s fortifications for 90 minutes in what could either be a 3-3 thriller to mirror last season’s match, or be an inevitable battle of attrition as City struggle to blow Sunderland’s house down. Either way, we’ll be glued to it and savouring every minute as we stare into the precipice of an international break.

As highlighted in Andy’s overnight Catch-Up article Roberto Mancini has stuck true to his word and made more than a few notable changes to his City outfit from Wednesday’s game playing host to Dortmund.

An entire strike-force switch sees both Sergio Aguero and Edin Dzeko rested to the bench as Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli start in their place. Micah Richards has finally recovered from injury to start at centre-back alongside Joleon Lescott with captain Vincent Kompany and Matija Nastasic absent from the squad entirely – calf and ankle injuries are to blame respectively. To round out the changes Aleksandr Kolarov, Gareth Barry and James Milner also come in for Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and the injured Javi Garcia.

Martin O’Neill has been a lot calmer on the rotation front by welcoming Carlos Cuellar back from injury and into his starting XI as Sunderland’s only change from last weekend. The teams in full are…

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Richards, Lescott, Kolarov, Milner, Barry, Y. Toure, Silva, Balotelli, Tevez
Man City Subs: Pantilimon, Clichy, K.Toure, Rodwell, Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko

Sunderland XI: Mignolet, Gardner, Cuellar, O’Shea , Rose, Colback, Larsson, Johnson, McClean, Sessegnon, Fletcher.
Sunderland Subs: Campbell, Kilgallon, Vaughan, Meyler, Bramble, Saha, Westwood.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is open and ready to withstand all your reactions in real-time from this and all today’s encounters.

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  1. AriseSirGiggsy
    14 years, 1 month ago

    That early goal as spoilt this game as a spectacle

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    1. MJ6987
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Love that phrase.

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  2. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    How are Sunderland creating so little chances this season with Sessegnon, Johnson and Larsson feeding into Fletcher?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They're asked to do much more defensive work I think and Fletcher is up on his own which makes it feel pretty one-dimensional.

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      1. I taught Ashley Young how t…
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeh one up front is always a problem

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    2. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They always create less chances.. Moving Larsson to the middle means less of his crosses. .And at City away its almost next to nil

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      1. Manamongst
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Larsson looks so bad centrally, he has no clue where Sess is on the pitch when he has the ball. And no chance of keeping the ball long enough to find him either.

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    3. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      because they're crap.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Go away

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        1. Jax
          14 years, 1 month ago

          everyone has their own views. get a life.

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        2. Manamongst
          14 years, 1 month ago

          To be fair their approach is crap, McClean looks hurt and might as well be a 2nd LB, when he's not switching sides to the right which I think is their only chance.

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      2. Simon69
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Moron.

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        1. Jax
          14 years, 1 month ago

          we know u are

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          1. Simon69
            14 years, 1 month ago

            In my face.

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            1. Jax
              14 years, 1 month ago

              bit of banter mate 😉

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    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      been the same problem all season. Not a suprise

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      1. Simon69
        14 years, 1 month ago

        They've been scoring quite a bit so....... not sure what you're talking about

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        1. Jax
          14 years, 1 month ago

          6 goals in 5 games yeah great.

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          1. Simon69
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Why did you change your name to something else sh*t?

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            1. Jax
              14 years, 1 month ago

              didn't like my last name. think i changed it whilst drunk. oh dear.

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        2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          14 years, 1 month ago

          This season? 5 goals in 6 games. How is that quite a bit?

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          1. Simon69
            14 years, 1 month ago

            5 in 5 isn't it? Wasn't their game in GW2 PP?

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            1. Jax
              14 years, 1 month ago

              6 in 5 games.

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              1. Jax
                14 years, 1 month ago

                sorry you're right duh.

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              2. Simon69
                14 years, 1 month ago

                Back to square one 😉

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  3. MachuMichu
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Any chance Kun will come on after the break?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yep. twenty minutes after the break. 😉

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    2. Syd.
      14 years, 1 month ago

      There is a good chance

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    3. MJ6987
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Every chance.

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    4. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      who knows mate.

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      1. Rafabio
        14 years, 1 month ago

        This.

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  4. Viper
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ridgewell confirms that he is injured today and will be back for the Man City game 🙁

    Why didn't I go with McAuley!!?

    (Via Twitter)

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    1. adziom
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Annoying. I have Maloney first sub which could turn out okay I guess

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      1. सनकी
        14 years, 1 month ago

        and benching Gibson, reallly? 😆

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      2. Viper
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'll have Demel coming in & also have Jaask in goal!

        Not expecting more than 4 points between them!

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      3. सनकी
        14 years, 1 month ago

        pretty sure your linked team doesn't have Maloney or even Ridgwell in it ? o.O

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        1. adziom
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Haha, yeah I just checked my link funnily enough and realised I hadn't updated it since last season. I have rectified that now 🙂

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          1. adziom
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            14 years, 1 month ago

            Oh no wait, it's not changing for some reason, never mind -_-

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    2. सनकी
      14 years, 1 month ago

      F M L. should've really took the 4 point hit and get Shawx. now id have to live with Demel coming on 🙁

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    3. Declan-
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like cuellar's 0/1 point is coming off my bench

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    4. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      John O'shea coming on then 🙄

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      1. Mull
        14 years, 1 month ago

        At least he's in the dream team 😉

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        1. rohan
          14 years, 1 month ago

          😆

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    5. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Last weeks Sky transfer, Kolarov to Ridgewell! Nice. 🙁

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      1. Viper
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Unlucky!

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  5. Lucky_2010
    14 years, 1 month ago

    definitely kun or dzeko will play, sub tevez?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      14 years, 1 month ago

      balotelli

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  6. Elfozzie 42
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Had a crazy 5 minutes this morning when I dumped Berbatov (who I'd kept faith with and think will probably start) for Lambert, for a 4pt hit. What on earth was I thinking? Convinced Berbs will start and score well now.

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I dont think thats a bad call, firstly, unlikely they will risk berba, secondly lambert could do well today.

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  7. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Fletcher has 2 shots on target...if he can just get us that goal we can hang on for a draw and 3 bonus points 😀

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      only if he scores or assists the sunderland goal

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      1. सनकी
        14 years, 1 month ago

        didn't he just said 'if he score' ? o.o

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          14 years, 1 month ago

          o_O

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    2. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      city will win.

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    3. Van The Man
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Sund will be attacking a bit more imo. MON is that kinda manager. So Fletcher could still score.

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    4. OPTA FPL
      14 years, 1 month ago

      City will score 2 in the 2nd half.

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    5. Lucky_2010
      14 years, 1 month ago

      probably 1-1 in the end ?

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      1. Jax
        14 years, 1 month ago

        no.

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  8. Az
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Aguero to come on and nick a goal please.

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  9. Ninca
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Aguero IN second half or not?

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  10. Jimbo123
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is it me or is McClean actually pretty terrible in terms of all round game play!? Just pacey and direct when he gets the ball, which works sometimes......

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    1. Muniains Tears
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Atleast he runs around, sessegnon doesn't do that either 🙁

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      1. Jimbo123
        14 years, 1 month ago

        McCleans endeavour and Sessengon's ability.....now there's a player!

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      powerful beast of a player but has been found out this season thus far. Last season he was new and people didn't know what to expect

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    3. Rafabio
      14 years, 1 month ago

      It's not just you. Never got the fuss with him.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 1 month ago

        When on form he is a great FPL player. His determination, strength and energy make him difficult to defend against. He's rather good at finishing as well!

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        1. Jimbo123
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Surely Sunderland don't score enough / attack enough for him to be that great a prospect!?

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          1. Piggs Boson
            14 years, 1 month ago

            Not at the moment no. I wouldn't go near him.

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  11. Hopper
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I got Clichy in because it said everywhere he would start - then - Kolarov starts. Since I go for cheapest defender available, I would have got Kol if he was meant to start. Frustrating.

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    1. som3awy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Everyone would go for Kol if he is guaranteed to start.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      well man city def is unpredictable. You really shouldn't be investing there

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    3. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Clichy started two back to back games.. It was kinda evident that Kolarov would start this one.. Plus the Mancini Presser.. Exactly the reasons I got Kolarov in this week as a punt

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    4. सनकी
      14 years, 1 month ago

      everyone would if he's a confirm to start.

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      1. rohan
        14 years, 1 month ago

        KERRAZY cheers for the post a few pages back...

        However, I can assure you, these kinda risks wont come off very often in the future for me

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        1. सनकी
          14 years, 1 month ago

          i remembered i was against that decision with 'he's not even starting'. you proved me wrong tho. nice start ! 😀

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    5. Billy Gilmore
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Nobody knows who will start, but it was obvious that Kolarov would start today.

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    6. The Shadow
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Everywhere are not, who can know Mancini's rotation plans beforehand?

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    7. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      never get in clichy or kolarov. they're rotated all the time. should have known that.

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    8. Hopper
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Only went for a City defender for the one off game. I know Mancini rotates for fun, but based on predicted line ups, Clichy was nailed on to start. It was clearly not 'obvious' Kol was meant to start, otherwise papers would have copped on to that, so what are you on about?

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  12. Cantona90
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Who was it on here that I read earlier that had put money on Kolarov first goal scorer? Hats off.

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    1. Viper
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure, but i'll tell you who it wasn't, me!

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    2. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      someone was joking earlier saying kolarov for the hat trick at 100-1 😉

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  13. HuttonDressedasLahm
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sunderland sub...... Would be good..

    Sessegnon off, Johnson behind Fletcher, Larsson right, bring on another ball winner

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    1. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      This..

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  14. FORCA INTER
    14 years, 1 month ago

    city defence is way better without Kompany

    after amazing last season he been the worst city player in this season

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    1. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Jack Rodwell likes this

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    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Its half time in the first match without kompany your clearly jumping the gun.

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      1. FORCA INTER
        14 years, 1 month ago

        i am just saying in overal

        after watching kompany 2 times in CL he really looked poorly

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        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Fair enough I was busy on Tuesday and missed City vs Dortmund but they will probably be as bad if not worse without him in the long term.

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    3. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Bad, not the worst.

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    4. Jimbo123
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He'll come good.

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    5. Crouchy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      me thinks he doesn't like the 3-5-2 formation

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    6. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He seems to struggle sharing the box with 2 other defenders, but he has still shown his quality this season. Definitely not the worst player.

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    7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      worse than rodwell?

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    8. Simon69
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Do you say these things just to be different?

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    9. HuttonDressedasLahm
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not Kompanys fault, it's the changes and Nastasic etc

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    10. Billy Gilmore
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He has been dreadful this season, but Rodwell has been far worse.

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  15. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    3,000 people got rid of Tevez after his assist...very demanding owners aren't they.

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    1. Crouchy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      where can i see these stats my good man?

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 1 month ago

        FPL main page

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    2. Pratik
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I might get rid too.....the rotation looks like it's gonna be a real problem for me. I don't handle that well.

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    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      14 years, 1 month ago

      nobody knows if will start though in coming weeks

      is it worth having 9m odd striker on bench?

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yes, better than an 11m one

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      2. The Shadow
        14 years, 1 month ago

        He'll start most games and be worth his price, but still many just can't stand the frustration of not knowing when he'll sit.

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      3. Andy1
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I think he will start a fair percentage, 65-70%, and come off of the bench another 30% of the time.
        So, he will play pretty much most weeks, and I think as a impact sub, he always stands a good chance of scoring/assisting.

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        1. Andy1
          14 years, 1 month ago

          The only downside of this rotation risk is as a captain choice.

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      4. Adam
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Because of his quality and City's fixtures, yes.

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    4. Rafabio
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They are probably thinking rotation especially with Kun on the bench for this one. Collect points and run to a decent guaranteed starter.

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  16. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    City don't look nearly as fluent as last season, but Sunderland are offering pretty much zero threat. Of all the Sunderland players I'm most impressed with Colback.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah he's fantastic, better than Henderson!

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    2. The Shadow
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They seem to be waiting for Silva and Tevez to win it for them. It probably will work nonetheless.

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    3. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Has been an unsung hero for them this season. .Can play in a few positions.. The Essien of Sunderland.. Minus the driving runs btw

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    4. AriseSirGiggsy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      City keep the ball so well at home - you have to get suck into them
      Sunderland should bring Gardner and Clattermole into the middle

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    5. PMC3
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Tevez looks on top form, more points there I am sure. Silva continues to disappoint though, doesn't look the same player as last season.

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    6. Back to Back Ballacks
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers for the Kagawa heads up, was aware of it but was reluctant to sell. I eventually caved in at 3am and swapped for Oscar

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      1. Granville
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        mmm I'd wait until United play before thanking me.

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    7. Manamongst
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not.

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  17. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Jesus i'm so worried that Chelsea are going to run riot against Norwich and win 5 or 6 nil. Anyone else got no chelsea Coverage? I very nearly did Cazorla ---> Mata but didnt. error?

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    1. La Roja
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i've done that and made mata captain!

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      1. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yep thats exactly what i would (perhaps should) of done... but arsenals fixtures are a hell of a lot better so who knows what the right decision is

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  18. Viper
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Projected points for Jaask & Demel?

    I'll go with 4..

    Jaask (3) Demel (1)

    Damn you Ridgewell!!

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    1. FF Dirtbag
      14 years, 1 month ago

      jaask (4) Demel (2)

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  19. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I don't get the people who make transfers immediately after the deadline to get players they should have got this week! It's bonkers...Torres 1,820 IN?? pfff....

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    1. Bubbles
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wildcards, mostly.

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  20. r0nh
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Niall Quinn talks a lot of shit

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      14 years, 1 month ago

      In fairness the vast majority of pundits talk shit.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 1 month ago

        That's their job! 😀

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    2. Jimmers
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      ..and gets paid to do it!

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    3. BOSH
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I Can't stand the bloke

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    4. Simon69
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Worst pundit going for sure

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  21. FPLCEO
    14 years, 1 month ago

    3-1 to City is my prediction. Any other shouts?

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    1. Viper
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'll go 2-0..

      Sunderland offering nothing going forward..

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    2. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      3-0. first city clean sheet. first sunderland defeat.

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    3. Jimbo123
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cuellar to see red

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    4. Rafabio
      14 years, 1 month ago

      That looks about right.

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    5. Back to Back Ballacks
      14 years, 1 month ago

      1-1

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    6. r0nh
      14 years, 1 month ago

      2-0 Sunderland 🙂

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      1. Mull
        14 years, 1 month ago

        This

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  22. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anybody see what Henry did in the MLS?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6nw8rfiJ3Q&feature=g-vrec

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    1. Viper
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Unbelievable! Would love him back at the emirates!

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Haha Henry in 4th gear taking the piss out of the MLS 🙂

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  23. Demí
    14 years, 1 month ago

    ) Foster - Tamas, McAuley, Olsson, Popov - Mulumbu, Yacob - Gera, Morrison, Odemwingie - Long

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers.

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    2. blue cheese
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks, Demi.

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    3. Viper
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Hoping Popov has a stinker..

      No disrespect to him, I just want Ridgewell back in when he's fit!

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  24. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    It's 10 to Demi time! Can't wait.

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    1. Andy1
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Fail

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  25. isacki: full casual
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Just occurred to me that if City had a ball-playing central defender who could bring the ball forward... like, FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE... Luiz, Vertonghen or Vermaelen (feck off Mancini, he's ours) they could do something interesting with the 3-4-1-2 they're playing today.

    Today they're playing:

    ..............Hart
    ....Richards Lescott Zabaleta
    Milner...Yaya....Barry....Kolarov
    ..............Silva
    ......Tevez.........Balotelli

    Replace Lescott with Luiz for example and you get:

    ..............Hart
    ....Richards..........Zabaleta
    ..............Luiz
    Milner...Yaya....Barry....Kolarov
    ..............Silva
    ......Tevez.........Balotelli

    Luiz plays at the base of a midfield diamond as a DM, stepping in and out of defence and midfield as the situation demands. Yaya, Barry and by extension Silva can all push up still further and strangle the midfield.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Do you think they could sign him before the second half kicks off? 😀

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You love a long post don't ya.

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    3. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
      14 years, 1 month ago

      They are playing a 4-2-3-1 today. Balotelli wide left.

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    4. Mull
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd love to see this.

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    5. rohan
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The Back 2 are full backs btw.. Would rather have 2 CD's in there

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      1. rohan
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Okay, they can both play CB but you know what i mean

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    6. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Kompany does play that role though.

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    7. Keane There Dunne That
      14 years, 1 month ago

      To attacking.

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    8. isacki: full casual
      14 years, 1 month ago

      LOL, just realized what I posted was basically Barcelona's formation with Luiz as Busquets, Kolarov and Milner as Alba and Alves, and Silva as Messi 😆 😆

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        14 years, 1 month ago

        No not really #falseno9

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    9. AriseSirGiggsy
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I made a similar Long post about cities three at the back formation it means that one attacking midfielder is replaced by a centre back leaving less ball retention and chance creation
      your solution makes sense

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  26. Rafabio
    14 years, 1 month ago

    That was a beauty of a ball. Fletcher with a good chance...

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  27. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sweet Jesus I am glad I did not do that Van Persie to Aguero transfer!

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    1. Jax
      14 years, 1 month ago

      why would anyone do that?

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Quite a few have methinks.

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  28. Rafabio
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Blinder of a shot from Yaya. Good save...

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  29. CRAZY TRAIN
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Are Gervinho or Silva gonna rise tonight? Want to do Yaya>Silva & Santi>Gervinho but am reluctant to with the international break looming, but at the same time I want to b any price rises.

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    1. Lucky_2010
      14 years, 1 month ago

      dude, better wait first .... int'l plenty of injuries player return so ???

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  30. Your Mum's Athletic
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Love how its only 45 mins into the gameweek and everyone is in panic mode, makes it sound like people will faint when demi gets the teams out haha

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