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We roll out the seventh article in our assessment of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Player List this evening. Having previously published articles on Goalkeepers, Budget, Mid-Price and Premium Defenders, we’ve brought you the lowdown on Budget Midfielders and Mid-Price Midfielders over the last couple of days. Next up, then, we look at what’s on offer in the premium midfield bracket.

Arsenal duo Santi Cazorla and Theo Walcott are amongst the highest-priced midfielders on options this season after finishing third and fourth respectively in the 2012/13 pecking order. While Cazorla outscored his fellow Gunner by 205 points to 194, Walcott played over 1,000 minutes less than the Spaniard last season yet still picked up 14 goals and 13 assists. Given that the England winger is also cheaper by 9.5 to 10.0, his eye for goal suggests he looks the best bet in terms of both value and overall points potential in the season ahead. The x-factor here, however, is that Cazorla topped the rankings in the new bonus system (BPS) amongst the midfielders. The Spaniard earned a total of 279 BPS points last term, 34 more than any other player in his position and finished third overall behind Jan Vertonghen and Robin Van Persie; Cazorla could therefore be expected to improve on his 19 bonus points earned last season.

While the Gunners have just two options in the premium bracket vying for our consideration, Chelsea have as many as five midfielders priced at 8.0 and above. New boy Andre Schurrle and Frank Lampard will set you back 8.0 and while the German’s more advanced role is enticing for the price, the competition for places in the attacking midfield three means he’s far from guaranteed regular starts. Lampard, on the other hand, should feature far more often under Jose Mourinho and with spot-kicks in his locker, racked up 15 goals last term. Having notched in three of his last five starts, Oscar seemed to be finding his domestic feet as the previous campaign halted and, at 8.5, is an intriguing option, though there still seems some uncertainty over his consistency of starts purely due to the number of alternatives on offer to Mourinho.

Eden Hazard (9.5) and Juan Mata (10.5) will likely remain the Blues main men. Mata is looking to improve upon 212 points in 2012/13 and also has the advantage of corners and occasional set-pieces, though Hazard’s kinder cost gives him the edge in many Fantasy managers’ books after a debut season harvested nine goals and 16 assists. Given that Chelsea could be set for a double Gameweek 1, getting this call correct will be key to a strong start, as shown by last season – with Kevin de Bruyne and Victor Moses also in the hat for game time, Mourinho’s pre-season line-ups are being studied carefully.

Marouane Fellaini’s Fantasy potential much depends on Roberto Martinez’s tactics for the season ahead. If, as many anticipate, the new man in charge opts for a change in tactics, the Belgian would no longer profit from a role in “the holeâ€, with a switch into central midfield virtually killing his appeal. Given that both Kevin Mirallas and Steven Pienaar would likely be part of a front three, thus handing us far more budget-friendly, out of position options within the Toffees midfield, Fellaini’s 8.5 price tag would surely be hard to justify.

Three goals, five assists and seven bonus points from just 12 starts in the second half of 2012/13 have elevated Philippe Coutinho into the premium bracket after just half a season on Merseyside. The Brazilian’s role on the left of a front three in a 4-3-3 affords him an out of position berth, though he’s equally capable of flourishing on the flank when Brendan Rodgers reverts to a 4-2-3-1. Coutinho has already produced a goal in each of Liverpool’s pre-season friendlies and while his position within the Reds’ system seems pretty straightforward, it’s yet to be established just where forwards Luis Suarez, Daniel Sturridge and Iago Aspas will be fielded if Rodgers plays the trio together, with all three capable of leading the line. As a result, some may opt for the security of Coutinho, at 9.0, with Suarez’s suspension and possible move away adding further confusion to the situation up front.

Reds skipper Steven Gerrard is similarly priced and despite a deep-lying role, racked up 10 goals and 12 assists in his first season under Rodgers – a score of 185 points was his highest since the 2008/09 campaign. With spot-kicks and a share of set-pieces and corners in his locker, Gerrard’s Fantasy resurgence could be set to continue and with game time guaranteed, he’ll be hoping to benefit from the new Bonus Points System – he would have finished fifth highest overall in the new scoring metric last season, racking up 245 points to Suarez’s 199 points for the Merseysiders.

Similarly to Chelsea, Man City have a quintet of midfielders priced at 8.0 or above. New boy Fernandinho and Samir Nasri, at 8.0 apiece, are perhaps unlikely to earn many suitors – the former’s more withdrawn role in front of the back-four is expected to limit his attacking potential, while Nasri could struggle for regular game time as Manuel Pellegrini looks to put his own stamp on the City side. Indeed, Yaya Toure (8.5) may also offer less going forward if the new man in charge looks to implement a 4-2-2-2 formation, with the Ivorian tasked with partnering Fernandinho in a deep-lying role. Ultimately, it may well be a couple of Spaniards that prove the most attacking options from the Etihad club. Jesus Navas (9.0) will inject plenty pace down the City right flank and, while David Silva (9.5) should switch to the opposite wing in a 4-2-2-2 system, he may be utilised in the role in “the hole†if Pellegrini moves to 4-2-3-1, with the likes of Sergio Aguero and Stevan Jovetic capable of filling in on the left should the new man in charge opt for Silva’s trickery from a central position.

With just 87 points accrued in his debut season, Shinji Kagawa failed to flourish in Sir Alex Ferguson’s final year at Old Trafford. Despite a disappointing first 12 months, the Japanese playmaker is priced at 8.0 – the costliest option within the United midfield, though there’s no doubt he has the potential to be a bargain if Wayne Rooney leaves Old Trafford and David Moyes hands him the role behind Robin Van Persie. Kagawa seems a ready-made replacement for the want-away Rooney but with United reportedly keen on bringing another playmaker to Old Trafford, the jury is still out on this one. Bearing in mind that Nani, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia are all more budget-friendly, Fantasy managers may yet find better value within Moyes’ midfield if Kagawa fails to cement a regular role under the new manager.

Last season’s Fantasy phenomenon Michu moves up to 9.0 after his debut exploits for Swansea. However, if the Spaniard can replicate hauls of 18 goals and three assists, that price tag will be justified. With new boy Wilfried Bony set to lead the line, Michu should benefit from a return to the role in “the hole†after Michael Laudrup was forced to field him as a lone forward on a number of occasions towards the end of last term. While Laudrup is expected to utilise rest and rotation to a greater extent this season as a result of Europa League duties, it seems unlikely Michu’s game time will suffer – he simply looks too key to the Swans’ prospects to be left warming the bench. With United, Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal in the opening six Gameweeks, though, many may decide to shop elsewhere until the schedule takes a turn for the better, while Bony’s 31 goals and eight assists from 30 league matches in the Dutch top-flight offers an alternative route into Michael Laudrup’s side, albeit as one of our three forwards.

An outstanding 2012/13 campaign has seen Gareth Bale priced head and shoulders above any other midfielder this time round. The Welshman moves up to 12.0 after producing 21 goals, nine assists and 50 bonus points in the season gone by and with a superb opening run of matches that pits him against Palace, Swansea, Norwich, Cardiff, West Ham, Villa and Hull in the first nine Gameweeks, the explosive potential which produced 14 sets of double figures in Andre Villas-Boas’ first season at White Hart Lane makes Bale a hugely appealing armband option. While some feel the acquisition of Paulinho could prove the catalyst for a switch to 4-3-3 for the season ahead, with Bale fielded as an inverted right winger, the imminent arrival of Nacer Chadli may perhaps suggest otherwise. The Belgian will give Spurs plenty pace and threat on the left and should ensure Bale retains the role in “the hole” which helped harvest an average 7.2 points per game last term, enabling Villas-Boas to hand his star man the freedom to wreak havoc on top-flight backlines from a central role once again.

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  1. isacki: full casual
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    "Leeds United boss Brian McDermott is ready to raid former club Reading for 31-year-old defender Kaspars Gorkss and will offer £450,000..."

    'Raid'

    'Kaspar Gorkss'

    in same sentence

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    1. The Ginger Prince
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      "Much like a cardboard air raid shelter, Kaspar Gorkss is useless."

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        138 chocolate teapots were offended by being compared to Kaspars Gorkss

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          1. Billy Gilmore
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            😆

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          2. Valar(Keith)
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            😯 that is unbelievable

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    2. Valar(Keith)
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      Dont say anything against the legend that is Kaspar Gorkks!! i played him 3 weeks and in those weeks he gave me 11 6 and 9!!!

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  2. joinho
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    Does anyone know the code for the members league?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Not out yet I think.

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    2. Prime
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      Not up yet afaik.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      Is it the one in the members area?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        That's the one 🙂

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    4. Sleep Talk
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      It's up and available in the Members area.

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  3. Ballz&Fartz
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    what does value (season) mean??

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Total Points / Price.

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  4. imtheboss
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    Hi there, hope all is well

    Quick question regarding The Sun Dream Team, does the league cup count towards points too?

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  5. Jönny
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    Anyone considering getting Vaz Te in alongside Van Perise and Van Wolfswinkel, so that they can notate their front 3 thusly: RVP - RVW - RVT?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      I've got him, but he will be playing.

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      this league could to with some VOH right about now

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      1. Jönny
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        I love the fact that the FAQ section still has "NRC: Nigel Reo Coker" in its commonly used acronyms section. Gold.

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          NRC sometimes plays OOP for the Whitecaps these days. I've considered him, but so far Philadelphia's Okugo is a better pick.

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  6. Piggs Boson
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    Even if Rooney stays at United, I still think he could be a great option at 10.5. The new baps system is going to love him as well.

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    1. Heydudes13
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      He won't play regularly though

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        Moyes' comments seemed to suggest he's going to get him firing ready for the World Cup. His latest comments about him being a back up for RVP is worrying but I don't think that means he won't play every game as a #10 as well as being a back up for RVP.

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    2. ZaKNaFeiN
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      not if RvP is doing all the scoring

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    3. Ryan
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      He will still start ahead of Kagawa as well. RVP and Rooney up front is unstoppable. Could be a great option if he is guaranteed that game time in his preferred position just in behind RVP.

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      1. Demí
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        😕

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        1. Ryan
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          You disagree?

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          1. Demí
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            Yes. His preferred position is where Van Persie players, but the latter is obviously better so Rooney's been used behind, and out wide at times. Kagawa is to me a better option behind RvP. Much more creative, doesn't lose the ball as much, more mobility.

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            1. Ryan
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              I don't think Rooney minds playing in behind the striker just doesn't want to be shifted wide or in a deeper CM role. You could be correct in saying Kagawa is a more effective playmaker but it depends on they type of formation United use. Some form of 442 where Rooney drops off a bit is optimal imo. Indeed he isn't a pure CAM but more of a CF who drops deep occasionally.

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              1. Demí
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                The only positives about Rooney over Kagawa in that position are that he offers a better defensive shield infront of the midfield and scores more goals. He would definitely prefer to be playing upfront though which is why i disagreed, even if he wouldn't mind doing that role. We need a stronger midfield defensively for Kagawa to be fully effective in his free role behind RvP. Rooney provided the better tracking back/defensive duties which is why i'd expect him to play a fair few games there. Wouldn't say he's better than Kagawa though, or that it's his preferred position

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                1. SAMCRO-Sons Of Fantasy
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                  Fellaini would fit in perfectly alongside Carrick giving Kagawa that free role

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                2. Ryan
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                  So long as he is scoring goals that is the main thing I think, he can do that playing in behind RVP because he sometimes drops back as well. But there were times last season where Rooney was quite withdrawn the entire game or being played out wide. Its those positions that he dislikes the most because it stops him from getting into the box regularly and scoring goals.

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        2. TorresMagic™
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          Elaborate. 🙂

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      2. Piggs Boson
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        Moyes said he is going to find a way to get him more goals. So I'd imagine he will play there. He will have a chat with Rooney and convince him to stay I am sure.

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        1. Ryan
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          Precisely. Rooney will want to go to Chelsea if he isn't playing up top regularly this season.

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    4. Louis
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      He won't be played as a striker. He'll play further back. So why use up one of your 3 striker spots for him?

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  7. JPerks
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    Is there too much money tied up in a midfield five consisting of:

    Kagawa - Lampard - Coutinho - Bale - Snodgrass

    Thoughts please!?

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    1. DaveBensonPhilips
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      I like it. Lamps and Kagawa are a shift away from the templates.

      I'm surprised Lampard hasn't seen more attention on here. Guaranteed 10 goals per season, finished 12/13 very strongly and Jose loves him. I can only assume that people think he'll sit too deep or won't get regular game time. Not certain I agree.

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      1. JPerks
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        The Mourinho factor was a big one concerning the Lampard selection. I'm happy for him to play a deeper role, he's been doing it for a while now and his goal returns are still good. Penalties are assured and a share of set pieces too. ( Plus he's the first name on my team sheet every year 😉 )

        Kagawa is a bit of a gamble, amount of game time does worry my slightly. Rooney leaving would make his selection a much easier one!

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        1. DaveBensonPhilips
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          I like your thinking, because it matches mine. And I like my thinking.

          *Tries to squeeze Kagawa into team...*

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  8. fealdabeirne
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    Mignolet,
    Coleman, Nastasic, Mertesacker,
    Snodgrass, Silva, Bale(C), Nolan,
    Berbatov, Aguero, Sturridge,
    Bench: Gazzaniga, Baker, McNaughton, Colback
    id love to hear some advice on this team, thanks

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    1. super zlatan
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      Strong starting 11.

      Subs a bit iffy for me.

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      1. fealdabeirne
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        Yea but I dont intend on playing them they're just cheap so I can affors a strong starting lineup

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    2. Whoevers playing Liverpool
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      Solid team if all your City players play. I would maybe save some cash on Nasty and increase Silva until I know how City will be playing.

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      1. fealdabeirne
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        I can see him starting now with kolo gone and he seems a potential bargain and silva and aguero have to be guaranteed starts also

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  9. Eboue
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    Mark, jonty and co..is there an undo vote button? I just downvoted someone by mistake!

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Don't worry about it.

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      1. Eboue
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        I'm not too concerned don't worry, just feeling guilty 😉

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    2. Ryan
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      Just ask somebody to upvote it for you to cancel it out.

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      1. GreenWindmill
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        Need to find someone with identical rep to make it work though!

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        1. roscola
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          Or multiple people whose reps add up to yours

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            Or multiple people whose reps add up to yours combined with one or more other posters who can all be convinced to vote in the required manner.

            It's really very simple.

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            1. roscola
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              😀 Exactly. Considering the fatal blow delivered by a wrongful downvote, it would be shameful not to go to that small amount of trouble to rectify it.

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              1. GreenWindmill
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                I'm calling for a ban if it isn't sorted in the next 5 minutes.

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  10. WithEase
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    Well this would certainly make it easier to squeeze RVP in...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2374873/Gareth-Bale-set-sign-Real-Madrid-claim-Marca.html

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    1. Ryan
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      You know I heard that AVB would leave if they sold Bale which is possibly why there was all this tough talk that he won't be sold. Then suddenly Barcelona needs a new manager, guess who could be top of their list. Bale could very well be leaving.

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      1. WithEase
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        Barca have hired Gerardo Martino, Newell's Old Boy's coach.

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        1. Heydudes13
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          Who the hell is that?

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        2. Ryan
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          Sweet, that clears that up then. Comes down to AVB convincing Bale that he should stay.

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    2. Heydudes13
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      Oh yeah the Mail, really reliable source... Are there even any quotes?

      I would be really pissed off at Bale if he went to Real Madrid, they ruin so many good players.

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  11. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
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    Best cheap keeper to rotate with Boruc?

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
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      mannone/westwood?

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    2. super zlatan
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      Most ppl going with manonne

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    3. Pete Campbell
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      Foster? Cheap enough?

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  12. SuperOsçarBaby
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    I think this season Chelsea can get over 20 CS. Essien will be our important player for the hard games which I expect him to starts. Maybe a duo partner with Ramires. Lampard for easy games.

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    1. @Bryan
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      20 seems excessive, but id certainly expect Chelsea to tighten at the back. Not that Rafa was bad at organizing that aspect either.

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        this is our winning season, JT and Ivan will back to their best. Luiz is improving

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      If you get 20 CS, you will probably win the league. Don't see it myself.

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        that was my point, we will winning the league with 20 CS.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Ok.

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      Completely disagree. I simply don't think your defenders are anywhere near good enough for you to keep 20 CSs, no matter how much Mourinho improves your defence. I'm not convinced he even will. The awesome defensive record he had when he was at Chelsea the first time was mainly down to the fact that he had great defenders in Terry and Carvalho with Makelele in midfield. Rafa is no mug when it comes to defensive stability either.

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      1. GreenWindmill
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        This thread needs a gloatmark 😉

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          😀

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      2. SuperOsçarBaby
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        watch and see, did I mention essien and ramires?
        Luiz not join the squad yet, he was impressive at brazil! for first season at chelsea he's more attacking minded, i think mourinho know how to improved his defending. finally ivan at rb is great news ever.

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          Ivan is a poor defender, especially at RB. Luiz will never be a good defender for CSs with his haphazard method of defending. Essien is over the hill imo and Ramires is meh. Don't get me started on Cahill 😆

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            Don't try to convince Patrick that Azpil is a better RB than Ivan - he has a huge blindspot there...

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            1. Billy Gilmore
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              Blinded by the light...erm...goals 😀

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              1. GreenWindmill
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                I think that's a major factor 😉

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    4. Louis
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      For me Essien is finished.

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        in what aspect and angle? he's experienced, even at real madrid he's like man of the match player every game he starts under mourinho(his daddy)

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        1. Louis
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          He is finished as I don't think he will play much for Chelsea. They have better players than him. I've seen him play lots of time for Real Madrid and in my view he is terrible. I don't recall him being a match player at all.

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          1. Louis
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            *man of the match player

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      2. .
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        Unfortunately I have to agree. Never been the same since the injuries. Shame really, he was a great player

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  13. 1-1 at Newcastle
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    David Silva is 9.0 not 9.5?

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
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      michu, gerrard, silva, coutinho all 9.0 😉

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    2. super zlatan
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      Correct

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  14. Gimli son of Gloin
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    Fantasy wise, Bale to Madrid could be a great move.
    The fee would likely be close to 60/70 million and this would give Spurs plenty cash to spend on Soldado, a Bale 'replacement', and a decent left back.
    Obviously Bale is a phenomenon, but this could make Spurs a better team, much like a believe a Suarez departure would make Liverpool.

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    1. Heydudes13
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      Got to try and keep him for this season at least and build around him. Soldado should join anyway, love the player, would probably pick him in my team too out of admiration!

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    2. LOCO ABREU
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      i would only take 100M

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    3. Stykes
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      Agree that losing (read: selling) Bale and Suarez might not actually be that bad for either team.

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    4. Crouch Potato!
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      Can't agree at all, the finances fo Solado appear to be available as things stand, replacing Bale is an impossiblity. They should be building a team around him, if the are to show real ambition. As for Liverpool, losing a striker of the quality of Suarez will be a hugh blow, not a whole number of options left to replace him, and none of his quality.

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  15. Riddler
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    Reports that Lambert is off to Reading, and heard earlier in the week that Inter might be in for Ramirez - what does that do to SOU attacking prospects we think? Would make J-Rod pretty much nailed on...

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    1. Ryan
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      Saints will only sell Lambert if they get in a new striker. They don't want to sell Ramirez either.

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    2. Heydudes13
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      Adkins effect, madness if it's true!

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Reading have shown some interest, however no where close to him being off there, I in fact believe it is highly unlikley. If Saints are to offload him a number of PL clubs would snap him up surely.

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  16. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Hey folks, lots of chat about Baines vs Mirallas, lots of RMTs. The point about how far your money goes and the fallacy of comparing prices for different positions is valid.

    If we assume a minimum of 4.5 for a keeper, 4.0 for a defender, 5.0 for a mid and 5.0 for a forward (you might get one cheaper in each position, but they're the exceptions), and given that you have to pick 2-5-5-3, you're already using 69 of your budget just to field a team. It's then a question of how you distribute the remaining 31.

    In my current iteration I have:

    0 goalkeepers
    2 defence
    15.5 midfield
    13.5 attack

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    1. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I like this way of looking at it

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      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        By position:

        0 - 0
        1 - 0.5 - 0.5 - 0 - 0
        7 - 4.5 - 2.5 - 1.5 - 0
        9 - 4 - 0.5

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        1. Tiki-Taka
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Coleman / Collins / Clyne
          Bale / HazardorWalcott / Mirallas / Snodgrass
          RVP / Negredo / Anelka

          ? 😉

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          1. teddy.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Vlaar not Collins - for long term rotation reasons
            Walcott
            Sturridge

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        2. roscola
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          My current draft:

          GK - 0.5
          DEF - 3.5
          MID - 18
          FWD - 9

          1 - -0.5
          1.5 - 1 - 0.5 - 0.5 - 0
          7 - 4.5 - 4 - 3 - -0.5
          1 - 4.5 - 3.5
          (couple of minus values in there)

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    2. Frank Spankhard
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      or better still, the average extra wedge spent on each position, as a whole squad, or based on 3-4-3 and excluding the bench (presuming min. value players here) in brackets.

      0, (0), gk
      0.4, (0.66) def
      3.1, (3.88) mid
      4.5, (4.5) att

      if you exclude the outliers, (assuming a 3-4-3 formation), then this still looks a pretty heavy up front, although skewed by larger range of values of forwards....5.0 - 14.0.

      RVP up front?

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      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        All we then have to do to complete the circle is an analysis of the relative returns for extra money invested in each position. I'm sure someone will have done this already...

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        1. Frank Spankhard
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          shotgun not.

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        2. Frank Spankhard
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          although this always makes me think a better gk is worth it. think migs is a steal this season.

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  17. Birthday Sess
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I really don't know what to make of this BPS. I was looking at downgrading Snoddy to upgrade other areas of my team and stumbled across Schneiderlin. He has the 5th highest BPS (214) almost 100 more than Snoddy (127) despite playing similar minutes. I know baps will mainly reward goalscores but surely in low scoring games, players like Schneiderlin will mop up the baps, especially given that the next highest BPS for a SOT defensive player is Yoshida (178). I know there's no chance of explosive returns, but is anyone considering Schneiderlin as a cheap 4th midfield to compliment Bale, Hazard, Walcott and RVP up front?

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    1. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      wanyama could do likewise for 0.5m less. It sounds like you'll play bale hazard and walcott every game so maybe finding a good home/away rotation with your 5th midfielder is more important, iv got a similar dilemna below

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      1. Gimli son of Gloin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Home/Away isn't as important as the player or the fixture itself.
        I'd much rather my player facing Cardiff away that Tottenham at home

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    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Snodgrass might have penalties to add to his orevious returns this season.

      Ed

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      1. Birthday Sess
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I do want Snodgrass but I can't have him without compromising my defence.

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  18. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Who would you say is the best midfielder for 6.0m or less, i currently have thomas as my 5th midfielder. Is Sissoko a terrible idea if hes playing 'in the hole'?

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    1. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I want to see a lot more competence all over the pitch from Newcastle before I get any of their players.

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      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        thanks, could be real value if he does play in the hole, any other 6.0m options?

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        1. roscola
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Sorry, that was your question, wasn't it? 🙂

          I don't see a lot of interesting mids for 6.0m and under, to be honest. I find it quite hard to figure out what a good return would be for that kind of money. I get frustrated with players who don't score or assist for 5 weeks running but that's all you can reasonably expect from that price bracket.

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            🙂 so it might be worthwhile in going for another cheapie with home/away rotation for 4.5/5.0 mil and upgrading somewhere else?

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            1. roscola
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              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              If you really don't want to downgrade elsewhere then I guess that's an option. But don't listen to me, I'm not very good at this game 😉

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        2. Trilogist
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Morrison is a god shout with the fixtures.

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          1. Your Mum's Athletic
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            a god shout? 🙂 yeah he's not too shabby cheers

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        3. roscola
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Schneiderlin at 5.5 sounds like he may benefit from the new bonus point system in low scoring games. Also from Southampton, this could be Ramirez's breakthrough season (Doos will kill me for suggesting this)

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    2. fealdabeirne
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wel if he plays there he out of position and a bargain, but im not sure if he will

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  19. TheBabyfacedAssassin
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any suggestions for this team?

    Mannone, Boruc
    Coleman, Toure, Koscielny, Clyne, Turner (CAR)
    Bale, Walcott, Hazard, Bellamy, Thomas
    Aguero, Strridge, Rodriguez

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    1. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Decent but not a big fan of bellamy or rodriquez for me, downgrade rodriguez > anelka/gayle/cornelius and upgrade bellamy?

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  20. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Before i start trying to crowbar RVP and Bale into the same team, has anybody done it yet to good effect?

    If so who is partnering RVP up top?

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    1. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Bale Hazard Walcott Brady Thomas
      RVP Sturridge JRod

      Bale Hazard Walcott Mirallas Thomas
      RVP RVW JRod

      Some example front eights

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      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Bale Walcott Mirallas Snodgrass Koren
        RVP Sturridge Anelka

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    2. TheRed
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Negredo and Lukaku

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    3. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Mig Davis

      Clyne Coleman Collins Turner Chester

      Bale Hazard Silva 6.0m mid Thomas

      Anelka Berbatov RVP

      Think thats half decent

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    4. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers all, good teams. looks like it can be done!

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  21. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Wow, what is wrong with football. Saints willing to sell Lambert if they get another striker in?!

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      What's wrong with that?

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Bit of a kick in the teeth for Lambert, the man who got them there and made them stay up this season with all his goals and assists. As soon as a new guy comes in we don't even know will be as good, Lambert is shown the door. Everything being thrown back in his face.

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      2. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        look forward to demi line-ups, just saying 🙂

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  22. blakeaces
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Mignolet(Davis)
    Vertoghen, Johnson, Baines (Clyne, Baker)
    Walters, Bale, Coutniho, Hazard(Quin)
    Van Wolfswinkle, Berbatov, Ankela

    Playing 3-4-3. Thoughts on possible transfers i need to make?

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    1. Trilogist
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      your spending a lot of funds in defense (vert and baines) at the expense of your strikers and midfield.

      I also have Berba and Anelka in attack..With RVP.

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  23. Adro3
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is Evra a suitable choice?

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  24. Ballz&Fartz
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    who you reckon will be aston villa & southamptons first choice goalkeeper??

    please help

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    1. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      guzan/boruc buddy

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      1. Ballz&Fartz
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        thanks mate

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  25. Pete Campbell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any chance of Navas ever playing up front in a 4-2-2-2?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      lol no.

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That is very made up.

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    3. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Is that the famous rectangular formation?

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      1. Pete Campbell
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Often referred to as the "Magic Rectangle" or "Magic Square".[29] It's been used in France in the 80s[30] and a whole generation, for Brazil with Telê Santana, Carlos Alberto Parreira and Vanderlei Luxemburgo, by Arturo Salah and Manuel Pellegrini in Chile and Francisco Maturana in Colombia.[31] The "Magic Rectangle" is formed by combining two box-to-box midfielders with two deep-lying ("hanging") forwards across the midfield. This provides a balance in the distribution of possible moves and adds a dynamic quality to midfield play. This formation was used by former Real Madrid manager Manuel Pellegrini and met with considerable praise.[32] Pellegrini had also used this formation whilst at Villarreal. The formation is closely related to a 4–2–4 previously used by Fernando Riera, Pellegrini's mentor,[33] and that can be traced back to Chile in 1962 who (may have) adopted it from the Frenchman Albert Batteux at the Stade de Reims of 50s. Also before in the Real Madrid, this formation was most infamously used by Wanderley Luxemburgo during his failed stint at Real Madrid in the latter part of the 2004–05 season and throughout the 2005–06 season. This formation has been described as being "deeply flawed"[34] and "suicidal".[35] Luxemburgo is not the only one to use this although it had been used earlier by Brazil in the early 1980s.[36][37] At first Telê Santana, then Carlos Alberto Parreira and Vanderlei Luxemburgo proposed basing the "Magic Rectangle" on the work of the wing backs. The rectangle becomes a 3–4–3 on the attack because one of the wing backs moves downfield.[38] In another sense, the Colombian 4–2–2–2 is closely related to the 4–4–2 diamond of Brazil, style different from the French-Chilean trend and is based on the complementation of a box-to box with 10 classic. Emphasises the triangulation, but especially in the surprise of attack. The 4–2–2–2 formation consists of the standard defensive four (right back, two centre backs, and left back), with two centre midfielders, two support strikers, and two out and out strikers.[39] Similar to the 4–6–0, the formation requires a particularly alert and mobile front four to work successfully. The formation has also been used on occasion by the Brazilian national team,[37][40][41] notably in the 1998 FIFA World Cup final.

        I would reference this but I got it off a facebook page and I dont know where they got it from.

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    4. Louis
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Lol isn't that the formation they use in FIFA?

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      1. Pete Campbell
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        As someone that plays alot of fifa I can assure you 4-2-3-1 is by far the most popular formation. Look at the video above.

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  26. fealdabeirne
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Not sure about anelka

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  27. In Tommy We Trust
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Any thoughts on this front 8?

    3 9.5 mids or higher to rotate in the form player + RVP. The other four will have to filled with the surprise packages when they surface.

    Bale - Walcott - Hazard - Snoddy - Brady

    RVP - JRod - Cornelius

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Similar to mine atm. Only differences are Koren over Brady and Anelka over Cornelius.

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    2. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      That's the sort of format I'm looking at I think. Seems to offer some decent flexibility. Considering starting with Silva over Walcott. (Or over Hazard if the DGW1 never materialises.)

      Just gotta hope you hit it right with your starting cheapos, but if you don't at least you've got the big hitters who should sort you out.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers Jonny. Could well be running with it

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    3. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not bad. I don't mind JRod and Cornelius as I see it contributes to getting RVP.

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  28. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Just read the news on Torres/Mata/Azpili possibly not being available for the first game.

    Lukaku could be gold for the first week then couldnt he. And then switch to Sturridge for Liverpools great run?

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      oscar, hazard, lampard 😎 old skool

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  29. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    reina or Mignolet? who will get the most gametime?

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    1. Tiki-Taka
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Reina has pretty much gone to Napoli on loan I think, or it's at least increasingly likely.

      So Mignolet

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  30. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    im being told that there's some rumour today about Gareth Bale, a 6 year contract and Real Madrid
    If anyone has read / heard this and confirm accuracy please let us know!

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