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Some familiar issues, such as Robin Van Persieโ€™s form and bonus points in defence, continue to vex the community, but there was still time to stroll down memory lane to revisit some of our most thrilling ever Fantasy Football moments. As always in the round-up, we also catch up on the latest goings on in the community leagues.

Hottest Topics

Weighing in at around 1,300 words Applebonkers has served up one of the communityโ€™s longest posts yet, this time focusing on Robin Van Persieโ€™s FPL history. If you didnโ€™t think he was essential after his display against Palace this Dutch masterclass in writing may finally convince you.

One of the most replied to posts of the week was from Demi, who asked the community to recount their most thrilling FPL moments. Among those to reply was Optimus, who recalls the magnificent moment in 2010 when his captain Didier Drogba remained on the bench during Chelseaโ€™s 7-1 rout of Aston Villa and he realised he would be getting double points from vice-captain and four-goal hero Frank Lampard.

The Sun Dream Team Transfer window closed this week, which prompted us to ask how the community feels about games implementing transfer windows. Among those who are not so keen on such a mechanic is Scored, who says it would make the whole season feel like one, long drawn-out international break. Exilizer however points out that it benefits savvy Fantasy managers who can keep tabs on injury-prone players more efficiently.

Leighton Baines ran away with all three bonus points last weekend, but Valar Morghulis (formerly known as Keith) urges caution among the Everton playerโ€™s suitors. Without his left flank partner Steven Pienaar, who could be set for a month on the sidelines, Baines was forced to rein in his attacking instincts, according to his analysis.

Dino invited those members of the community who backed early season flops, such as Kevin Mirallas, to take a walk of shame. To be fair though, who could really say that they predicted that Aaron Ramsey would be such a success, while the likes of Philippe Coutinho would fail to set the Premier League alight this season?

Eboue Skills School has joined many members of the community (and our contributing and moderating team) in pressing the wildcard button this week. Like many of us he has come to the conclusion that we are now entering a new era of premium defender dominance. His compelling case for heavy rear guard investment can be found here.

Further up the pitch Greenred has been having a look at some of the Premier Leagueโ€™s more reputable assisters but points out that it takes two to make a goal. There are no FPL points for a brilliant cross that a striker fails to convert, he warns.

Community Leagues

After Gameweek 4โ€™s fixtures the five leaders of In Tommy We Trustโ€™s leagues are TheRealAVB, Tommy Tour, AGUEROOO!!!, Mind over Mata and Yossi. The most competitive of his league is the All Things Baines league, where the top five community members have an average score of 272.4.

Bales of Fury is the current leader of HeelsOverHeadโ€™s The Worst To First – 2 Million+ Club, open to those with a rank below two million during one of the first five gameweeks, after rising to the comparative lofty heights of 273,652nd. The Code to join the 21 community members already signed up to this league is 459213-545168.

Myo Min Thant tops Torres Magicโ€™s Early Bird league with a score of 81. Of the 286 competitors, just 165 survive โ€“ in his Last Man Standing League there are 889 left, after 44 community members were knocked out, including myself.

In Thomas and Peppie&Felix‘s Friends Life competition, Thomass, Daniel and Forca top their leagues.

TommyTour marches on in Itโ€™s A Long And Winding Road (LAWR)โ€™s 127-strong main league. He also leads LAWRโ€™s Cloud Nine H2H league. Other H2H league leaders in LAWRโ€™s competition are Turbo Dog, I Am Suarez, Test Eagles, Doolittle, ManAmongst and Konig Luther.

In the FFS UEFA leagues, Billy Ketsu had the highest gameweek score across the leagues by notching an impressive 80 points. There was an epic, nail-biter in Ligue1 where Dr Ennett‘s head to head against Beavis resulted in a draw, with both on an impressive 72 points. Meanwhile, Giggs Boson ran away with The Order of Valour Award this week, for putting the armband on injury doubt Wayne Rooney and having the ultimate differential in Victor Moses.

Also, thereโ€™s still time to sign up for the FFS UEFA FA Cup, with around 80 places left.

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  1. SkyByBo
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Temped by RVP + Brady to Rooney + Ramsey for a 4 pt hit. Rooney in fantastic form as is ramsey.

    What do you think?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Mental

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Why mental? Trade 2 players for 2 better/more in form ones.

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    2. Total Foot 5
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      i might do similar
      Paulinho + Soldado for Ramsey + Roonie
      what d u think?

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Just paulinho to ramsey this week imo.

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  2. Pepe the Frog
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    GW5 Team:

    Migs
    Coleman | Walker | Evra | Zaba
    Redmond | Walcott | Michu
    Benteke | Soldado | Giroud

    Bench: Boruc, Brady, Chester, PHernandez

    0 FT, 0.3m in the bank.

    I'm concerned my defense is abit too heavyweight at the moment, but which one of Zaba, Evra, Walker do I get rid of?

    Want to lighten up that defense and maybe upgrade Redmond.

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    1. LowerManhattan
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going heavier than that.

      Coleman - Zaba - Vert - JEnrique - Faye

      I don't think you can go too heavy at the moment.

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  3. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    With the emergence of Ramsey and Moses as (at least) decent short term punts, I think I'm going with RVP over Rooney next week. Does this team look a little light in midfield?

    Boruc, Davis
    Zabaleta, Terry, Evra, Chester, Ward
    Walcott, Mirallas, Ramsey, Moses, Morrison
    RVP, Giroud, Sturridge

    Bank 0.3m

    Transfers I'm planning to get this team are:
    GW6: Soldado -> RVP
    GW7: Nolan -> Moses
    GW8: Toure -> Evra (alternative is to save the transfer and then do Toure & Ramsey -> Eriksen & a 4.5m ish defender in GW9)

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      What transfer did you make this week?

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Nani -> Ramsey

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Why did you get Nani... you weren't even on WC ๐Ÿ˜•

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          1. Jinswick
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            A moment of madness. It was uncertain whether I could field 11 last week with late injuries, doubts etc and I had no United cover for CRY. All the noises were that Nani would start. Needless to say he lasted less than 24 hours in my squad.

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            1. Acquafresca
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              That's alright, at least you fixed your mistake ๐Ÿ™‚

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              1. Jinswick
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                Yep, he is far from a sure starter in the United team, especially with Young and Valencia performing ok in recent weeks.

                RVP or Rooney next week is doing my head in. Whatcha reckon?

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                1. Shifty
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 5 months ago

                  wait to see how the City game goes as well the the midweek League Cup.

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  4. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    I'm only now coming to terms with the concept of team values, so please forgive me if this is a silly question.

    What are the total number of transfer ins/outs a player needs to rise/fall by 0.1, 0.2 and 0.3 respectively?

    Thanks.

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    1. LowerManhattan
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      it is a percentage of ownership, not a number of transfers from what I gather

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        How do know if a player will rise by 0.1 or 0.2 unless you have a net number of transfers?

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    2. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      No idea on #s but this website will tell you which players will rise and fall each day. Players won't move more than .1 each day or .3,each GW
      http://development.totalfpl.com/pricechanges

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  5. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Actually regretting not WCing at the end of last gw, have already taken a hit and then coutinho gets injured...

    would you agree that no point WCing now as I have missed all the price rises, taken the price drops so play team as it is and hope for the best?

    Team after taking 1 hit:
    Boruc
    Ivan Coleman murner ward (Chester)
    Wally Brady barfa (kim coutinho)
    Giroud lambert Rvp

    A: coutinho >> michu/erikson (-4)...effectively becoming (-8) for the gw
    B: WC
    C: play current team and pray

    Btw, goooooood morning dzzz ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Probably pray.

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        BTW isn't Ward injured?

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Play Kim over Ward...

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          1. UnitednationsXI
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah I think ward is injured

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      2. UnitednationsXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        How encouraging

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      The RMT is unusually small by your standards ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Ward's injured isn't he? I'd do A regardless and play Michu over Ward.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Best to wait for Europa tomorrow though...

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      2. UnitednationsXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        So basically takin a 8 point hit...fahk, shd have used a WC...team would have been good if coutinho handy got injured ๐Ÿ™

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  6. Pepe the Frog
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    GW5 Team:

    Migs
    Coleman | Walker | Evra | Zaba
    Redmond | Walcott | Michu
    Benteke | Soldado | Giroud

    Bench: Boruc, Brady, Chester, PHernandez

    0 FT, 0.3m in the bank. (Did Coutinho > Michu this week)

    I'm concerned my defense is abit too heavyweight at the moment, but which one of Zaba, Evra, Walker do I get rid of?

    Want to lighten up that defense and maybe upgrade Redmond.

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    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Evra+Redmond >> Shawcross+Moses?

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      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        No no no no. Eva is better long term than Zaha. And Shawcross v Arsenal is seriously inadvisable.

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  7. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    I really don't think this Ramsey thing will last...

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      6 goals already this season....

      I was his biggest critic, but he has really surprised and impressed me the last 6 months.

      Believe

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        When Arteta's back I'm sure it'll shake things up

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    2. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Either do I

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    3. The Marquis
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Kept saying the same thing to myself for Michu and Fellaini last season. I didnt get that far ๐Ÿ™‚
      No, I am not getting Ramsey in, just sharing previous experience.

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        If he played further up the field I would!

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  8. kingbails
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Has anyone who has watched much Chelsea able to tell me if Mata could be worth a punt in the Playon game? He is cheap but his game time is inconsistent, I am happy to take a punt on him if he has looked like doing much when he has been on the pitch...

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      He not a good option at all imo. Not playing and not in form. Oscar is the best chelsea mid atm imo.

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      1. kingbails
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks, it is hard to field a playing team in that game and he is very cheap so thought it could be a reasonable gamble.

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    2. Pigvig
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      With the format you have to take a few risks. Mata wasn't one that I had noticed. Thanks for the tip.

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  9. Pete Campbell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Who will score more in the next 2 GWs?

    Michu (Palace away Arsenal HOME)

    or

    Moses (Southampton HOME Sunderland away)

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Ain't no Nostradamus here

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    2. The Marquis
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Fun fact: Michu scored 2 against Arsenal the previous season ๐Ÿ˜›

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  10. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Morning folks. Considering fixtures, for the medium term who to go for;

    A) Ivanovic
    B) Ferdinand
    C) Vidic
    D) Arsenal defender
    E) Pool defender

    ......and why lads?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Evra, most nailed on man u defender, most attacking, best form, best fixtures (fancy a man u cleany this weekend).

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    2. wanique
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      A) ivanovic / enrique

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    3. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      E- Fixtures are quality and their defence has been good so far

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    4. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      D if you have Mignolet.

      E if you don't

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  11. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    From next week I'd say get a United defender (Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand (and even Rafael) all can be justified).

    For this week I'd say Kos/Mert is your man.

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't be so sure Jins. 4 games in 2 weeks? Can the old fellas do it?

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  12. Guendomeyang
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    I have this:
    Mignolet (Harper)
    Koscielny Vidic Dawson (Chester Chambers)
    Walcott Erikson BArfa Brady (JWP)
    RVP Giroud Benteke

    Think to make this transfer:
    Brady -> Ramsey
    Koscielny -> Fonte/Collin

    for -4 hits. Good idea?

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  13. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    i am glad that Chelsa lost yesterday

    now Terry have chanse of starting

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Arsenal have hit back with top form after losing to Villa 1-3 and I'm confident Chelsea and Mourinho respond aggressively the same way as Arsenal have done. Let Terry score a header and earn a clean sheet against FUL!

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    2. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Gary Cahill most likely to lost out imo.

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      1. Pigvig
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Will Luiz play do you think?

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    3. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Terry has chance to start in EPL despite win or lose. He's rested for weekend, I think.

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  14. GTS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Ivan or Zab. which one would you keep?
    I'm getting Walker in.

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    1. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'm not understanding the ongoing love for Walker. I may be missing something about TOT defence. Enlighten me, please?

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      1. SkyByBo
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Best defensive record in the league currently, great fixtures, nailed on and attacking. what more do you want?

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      2. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        They have conceded 1 goal this season, against an in form arsenal

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      3. GTS
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        not much of a rotation risk that for me is the only difference between Ivan and Zab.
        kinder fixtures as well..

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      4. holypegasus
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Check out this well-written analysis on post-Bale Spurs. http://allthingsfpl.com/2013/09/16/atfpl-statistics-lab-life-without-bale/

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  15. Butters_lfc9
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Thinking of swapping Lamela and Brady for Moses and Eriksen for a 4 point hit. What do you guys think?

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    1. Shifty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      like the transfers on its own, but with Fulham up next for Lampard (who will likely start), it's tough to justify.

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  16. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    United's fixture list

    9/14 Palace (H)
    9/17 Leverkusen (H)
    9/22 Man City (A)
    9/25 Liverpool (H)
    9/28 West Brom (H)

    RVP + Rooney likely to start vs City too.

    There's a good chance one of them will be rested for the tasty WBA fixture imo. My bet would be RVP/Chicharito vs Liv and Roo/Welbz vs WBA

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      You're wrong. RVP will be rested vs Pool with Rooney up top.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Could happen, can't see both of them playing vs WBA.

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      2. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Yup I agree with Acqua. Don't see Rooney being rested for Liverpool game. RVP was kept quiet the last time they met.

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    2. Grounderz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I think Moyes will keep playing Rooney regardless.

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        ^ Here's my thought.

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  17. Shifty
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Need some advice for GW5.

    Mig
    Coleman Ivanovic Vidic
    Walcott Hernandez Lampard Brady
    RVP Giroud Benteke

    Daniels, JWP Burner Chester + 0.2m

    Thoughts on Hernandez > Moses or Cabaye for the week? Or can I save the FT.

    Only 2 realistic options I can afford and don't want to triple up on Arsenal against Stoke (brain says no despite Ramsey's obvious form).

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Not cabaye. Id triple up on Arsenal right now, no 6m mid will outscore ramsey currently.

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      1. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        if for this gameweek only?

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  18. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    hoping that Soldado will be rested today

    he is my C after all

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    1. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      never captain sold ado

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Same..

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  19. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Happy with both Lampard and Walcott getting attacking returns last night and then both subsequently getting subbed off early, presumably to keep them fresh for this weekends games...

    I'll take that, thank you very much...

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    1. Phoenix Wright
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'm happy too. Arsenal have won 10 away games back to back now.

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  20. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Due to RooneyMania, Suarezathon has been delayed for one week. We apologize for any inconvenience you may be experiencing in sorting out your strikers so you can fix your defense and get the right players to get BAPs. This has been message from The Last Week's Points Network, now proudly chasing points from matches that don't even count in FPL.

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  21. AniJ
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Hi guys, team for gw 5

    Mignolet (Boruc)
    Zabaleta, Coleman, Walker (Turner, Chester)
    Walcott, Fellaini, Eriksen, Ben Arfa (Ward-Prowse)
    Giroud, Benteke, Lukaku

    thoughts?
    captain?

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  22. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Ozil 17% ownership already ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Sssssshhhhh

      Overtaken Walcott already btw.

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        ^ Nice. I would like to see how market will react after Walcott's brace.

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    2. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      The Silva and Coutinho exit effect

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    3. Butters_lfc9
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Acqua what is your opinion on a swap from Lamela and Brady to Eriksen and Moses for a 4 point hit

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Not worth it, not for a hit at least.

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    4. Zep
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I think it's laughable that both Ramsey and, to a lesser extent, Ozil have higher ownership that Walcott...

      Not that I'm complaining... more points for me when he inevitably explodes, and less for them...

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        A triple explosion from Walcott, Soldado and Mirallas would be great this GW

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          +100

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        2. BeachBadger
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          That would be perfect.

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          1. @BigChrisso
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            understatement !

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            1. BeachBadger
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              How can perfect be an understatement? ๐Ÿ˜›

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        3. Zep
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Oh god, absolutely yes...

          That would be the best ever reward for having patience with those guys...

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  23. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Dint think i'd see the day when Ramsey would be in the top 5 of the watchlist! Got 2 arsenal so avoidin.. Good luck to those who are punting though. He's looking an altogether different beast this year

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  24. RuudVanNistelrooney
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    who will be the best bet......
    a)luiz in defence for whittaker
    b)mid 7.0 value for ramsey(already have hba )
    c)mid around 10 value for toure
    d)rooney for soldado

    open for more than one change......

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  25. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    DZ chugging along very slowly I see.

    This weekend: A Mirallas brace should liven things up a bit?

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Rooting for a Rooney brace and Ozil goal myself. Own neither.

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Hope Rooney continues his great run of form too, will make a lot of RVP owners reconsider their positions

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  26. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    GTA 5 is meth.. cannot stop playing. Just spent an hour watching some of the funniest and craziest tv ever sitting on a couch in the game! Gotta pick myself up and go to work though. CAnt believe where gaming has reached these days

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    1. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'm excited for it, but I'm waiting for its release on ps4

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  27. Koflok
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    What's up with Ramsey.

    He's surely gonna go out from that streak soon?

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  28. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Had to be satisfied with just 71 points in UCL.
    Vidal Giroud and Villa really burned me.

    Any suggestions for a good 7 m or below mid who can regularly score and also has rosy fixtures to replace Vidal ?.

    Thanks in advance.

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  29. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Glen Johnson @ 5.9.. hopefully he drops another 0.1-0.2 . a Steal when back

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    1. The Gravless Sheik of Dream…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Hopefully he drop to 5.5 ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. The Gravless Sheik of Dream…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Toure ๐Ÿ™‚

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    2. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Weiss amazing, but in terms of the shot, Yaya.

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    3. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Weiss, no question

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    4. Zep
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Both are great goals, but in very different ways...

      I enjoy watching the Weiss goal just a little more, but that Toure goal is just ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ...

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        12 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, I get what you mean. Weiss goal makes me smile though. Steps around one of the best CBs around like its nothing ๐Ÿ˜€

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