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The Dugout Discussion – Sunday

8 December 2013 3528 comments
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The Gameweek continues with a pair of Sunday afternoon kick-offs, beginning with Fulham’s clash with Villa at the Cottage, in just a few minutes. Following on from that, two form sides clash at the Emirates as leaders Arsenal look for their seventh home victory of the season against an Everton outfit fresh from their midweek win at Old Trafford.

While those two teams are looking to extend a superb spell of results, Rene Meulensteen’s Fulham are desperately seeking to end a run of six consecutive defeats against Paul Lambert’s inconsistent Villa: they will arrive in West London unbeaten in their last four road trips in the league and boosted by the midweek win at St Mary’s.

Look to our Twitter feed for the latest news on today’s teamsheets as it breaks, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will remain so throughout today’s matches, up until the final whistle at the Emirates.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Hazard, or Lukaku (c) next week?

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    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Not hazard. I'm going aguero (c) lukaku (vc)

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    2. Munsoned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Kun

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    3. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Hazard if rested midweek. If not, Suarez.

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  2. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    What time will the league tables be updated?

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  3. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    What just saw it. Lukaku got an assist? Oh myyyyy. Can't believe it. Were we watching the same game?

    Ozil and Lukaka keep punishing for selling 🙂 They didn't deserve to be sold. My fault

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  4. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Remy to Lukaku?

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    1. Bad Pen
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      That's my planned transfer, so sounds good to me.

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    2. Granville
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      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I feel it could be one of those that backfire. Newcastle have a great fixture.

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        I am keeping for that very reason, Granville 🙂

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  5. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Hello all.

    I had designs on bringing Mirallas in. Is Deulofeu a threat a this point? They both only play on the right I guess? I can't go Barkley on four YCs. No room for Lukaku. What to do for EVE attacking coverage?

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Mark is rollin now Daniel

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        eh?

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  6. Somalion
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    So are people STILL selling Ozil??!?!

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I hope so, he's proved a massive differential for the past three GWs

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Chuffed 😀

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I finally sold him (for Hazard) this week in light of his fixtures - Everton, City, Chelsea, and then planned to get him back.

      I'm not screaming at myself, since it was a 3 week move in the very least.....But at the same time, one has no right to be so smug, because till the 80th minute, it was really going the non-Ozil way. In fact, if anything, it should have been Everton who should have been ahead. Not Arsenal.

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Justify as you wish but the point is he can still score regardless 😉 And given that Everton have been more solid than City and Chelsea at the back this season, well you see where I'm going with this. I shall be smug because I warned as many people as I could not to sell him.

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        1. Pratik
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 11 days ago

          Ah well...Brag away 🙂

          Of course, I have just made a mental note, to come back to this site after the City - Arsenal game, you obviously know for what! 😉

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    3. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      no

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  7. MattysFantasyFooty
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    53 with Williams to play crap week

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  8. Ludo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Any chance of Cabaye falling before next week?

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    1. The Abyss
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Wouldn't have thought so.

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  9. GK
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Any help please chaps?

    (A) Migs > Krul
    (B) Migs + Chico/Shaw > Krul + Distin (-4)
    (C) Migs + Chico > Howard + Debuchy (-4)

    0m in the bank, 1 FT

    Migs
    Chico, Shaw, Collins
    Hazard, Ozil, Ramsey, Shelvey
    Rooney, Suarez, Aguero

    (Daniels)(Januzaj, Gabbidon, Chester)

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    1. Ludo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I don't think B or C are likely to be worth a hit unless Chico gets a 5th yellow card tomorrow. So it's either A or save for me.

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      1. GK
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Sensible advice. Short term I agree, long term should work out. I am constantly having to make a conscious effort not to knee jerk hits this year, and it's bloody hard!

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        1. Ludo
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 11 days ago

          Swansea have Norwich away next, Everton have Fulham at home and Newcastle host Southampton. Obviously it would be annoying if Everton/Newcastle get a clean sheet and Chico only gets a couple of points, but that hit would still only see you break even. Then, if you think it's the better long-term move, you can just grab an Everton defender for free the following week!

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  10. Mozart_s Balls
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Looks like i have to ship Gerrard then. But for who? 9.7 in the bank...

    a) Silva
    b) Yaya Toure
    c) Walcott
    d) Oscar

    My front 8:

    Hazard - Ramsey - Sess - Redmond - XXX
    Suarez - Aguero - Lukaku

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Yaya

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  11. drughi
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Have 2 FT and i am set on dawson>distin and Gerrard>yaya. Sounds good ?

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Ya....ya

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  12. Mr. Bean
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Arsenal's schedule is interesting, they've only played two of the "top teams" (though that's very questionable) winning against Liverpool at home and losing to United away. They now have Napoli away, City away, Chelsea at home, then their fixtures ease up, then they have Liverpool, United, then the fixtures ease up, then they have Spurs, Chelsea, City, Everton...

    their difficult matches come in bunches is my point, not sure how relevant that is, but I found it interesting. Will the Gunners come through this difficult patch still on top?

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      No one is consistent enough to catch them at the minute.

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      1. don parcheesi
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        yup

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      2. goneill79
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Last season Liverpool's consistency came in the 2nd half of the season.

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 11 days ago

          Err, surely consistency needs to be consistent?!

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          1. goneill79
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 11 days ago

            I mean if we improve after Xmas like last year we'll go close cos we're in the mix now unlike this time last season.

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      3. Mr. Bean
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        will be interesting to see if that consistency holds up the next couple of weeks though

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      4. Mr. Bean
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        my point was that it's a bit easier to be so consistent when you are playing Sunderland, Stoke, Swansea, West Brom, Norwich, Crystal Palace, etc.. they've really had kind of a cake schedule til now

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      They'll lose to City and draw with Chelsea

      Still be a few ahead by Christmas imo

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    3. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      An injury to their lone forward, and it would immediately go downhill from there. Arsenal have been plagued with injuries in the previous years, and despite good starts, ultimately succumb and end up fighting for a CL place.

      This year seems quite different. They still don't have the strength in depth, but they are playing really well, and have escaped major injuries. (this is buoyed by the fact that other top teams are just not consistent - City, Chelsea, United)

      Hell, Tottenham should be nowhere near 6th place, as they have been terrible most of the season. You just gotta pause for a second and evaluate the situation, Arsenal at the top, Liverpool 2nd, It's December...This can't be happening. But it is, but it is!!!

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  13. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Hope Oscar is fit for the next week

    Sess->Oscar looks so juicy, have funds to get Hazard instead though

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    1. Mr. Bean
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I went Sess > Hazard myself, but it required a (-8) with Gabbidon and Chester coming in for Zabaleta and Chico. I was certainly eyeing up Oscar or even Lampard to save some funds, but went with the form player

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  14. pstokes2010
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Lukaka just said on twitter it was not his assist

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Can you tell him to email FPL please 😉

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Lol. If this is true n fpl dont change it 😆

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    3. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Followed by
      R.Lukaku Bolingoli ‏@RomeluLukaku9 7m

      Dont ever give your teammates your phone... They will tweet some rubbish stuff

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    4. The Abyss
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      That's because he's just done Lukaku to Rooney on FPL.

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  15. SW6
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Martinez will take over from Wenger in a couple of years.

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  16. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Intent

    If a players actions cause a goal via a deliberate touch, or a saved shot then an assist can stand

    If it is purely an accidental glance of a shin or an arse then it should be NO assist

    Also anyone assisting via back pass (Pieters) or sideways midfield pass for a wonder goal then to be scored (Gerrard) last GW deserves nothing too

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Those aren't the rules.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        I'm saying they should be

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 days ago

          Even for next season you'd end up with far more arguments about intent than you have now about significant deflections. And if we're on the subject of intent, why allow goals if these are unintended.

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    2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      You just made those up

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        You think? I'm sure FPL uses the word arse in it!!

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        1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 days ago

          Dry yer eyes kid. It stands. Get over it. Try a hobby.

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  17. Lizard Lips
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Really want Ozil but might have to wait till January wildcard. Scares me.

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  18. Cilly Bonnolly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    I've been mulling over doing Rooney to Lukaku, because of the Everton man's favourable upcoming fixtures, and because United are struggling. The additional funds would allow me to improve elsewhere too. With this in mind, would you keep Rooney over Lukaku or would you do these transfers? Not all at once. And who would you get for Terry, since Chelsea are struggling to keep a clean sheet?

    Rooney > Lukaku
    Brunt > Cabaye
    Clyne > Jagielka
    Terry > Any defender, 6.5 or under

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Cabaye is suspended

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      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        He'll be next week. Only doing Rooney to Lukaku this week.

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    2. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I have a front 3 of rooney, aguero, suarez. I think I would let aguero go before rooney.

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    3. ratski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      i sold rooney for lukaku. think rooney will outscore over the season but by getting the lukaku i can upgrade the rest of my team.
      also lukakus fixtures look amazing

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  19. boogle
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Chances of Brady scoring -1 to put me through to the next round of PP cup? 😉

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  20. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Wise to get ozil in for gerrard with mci n CHE?

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    1. Red Viper
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      no, he was absent for most parts today, lucky to pop up with the goal

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  21. The ghost of a Pug's g…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    How is ozil still dropping?!

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      because there are enough people who think he is overpriced, looking to save .something million by getting an inferior mid.

      Personally, I'm pleased because he is killing my rivals

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      1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Yeah...al deal with price drops...these shall return in jan window! All about points and certainty heading into Xmas period

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  22. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Early RMT. Am I good or a hit is somewhere needed. Maybe for a Everton player.

    Mig
    Terry Lovren Coleman
    Hazard (c) Ramsey Sess Whits
    Rooney Aguero (vc) Suarez
    bench: Januzaj, Clyne, Ward
    bank 0.5

    Thoughts?
    hELP please. If u don't help me I will sell Ozil and Lukaku 🙁

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  23. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Mingolet to Krul? Newcastle have a few nice fixtures coming up.

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Or Howard? But means doubling up.

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  24. Old Boots
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Evening all. Would one of these move be worth -4 if I aim to keep till January?

    A) Chico - Jags
    B) Rat - Distin

    Already have Coleman and Lukaku

    Cheers

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I wouldn't take a hit for that

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    2. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      A

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    3. don parcheesi
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I'd do B

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  25. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Is Silva due back for the Arsenal game?

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    1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Word is will play midweek...prob only 60mins but will be in contention...u may have to play the waiting game with me

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    2. Darsh
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      I would assume so as he is due back for the Bayern game

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  26. money face bandwagon
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    lol ppl keep complaining n arguing about 1 assist..move on ppl things will get even out sometmes u get the correct decision sometimes u dun!

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  27. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Important information

    The goal by Everton's Gerard Deulofeu has been reviewed and the assist to Romelu Lukaku remains as a slight touch on Bryan Oviedo's cross was detected.
    Last updated: 08 Dec 18:46

    Once Review has been done there is no more changing it... am I right?

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    1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      You are correct. 🙂

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    2. Bad Pen
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      It will stand.

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  28. don parcheesi
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    Pittsburgh, so close

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  29. Back to Back Ballacks
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    All hulabaloo about Lukakus assist
    What about the one Gerrard DIDN'T GET midweek, that was an absolute disgrace, defender trying to block the pass but failed and Suarez scores, if that's not an assist they should be taken out of the game.
    NONSENSE call from FPL...................................AGAIN

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      its cut and dry in the rules they set out at the start of the season.

      If that pass was diverted by GK or woodwork, it stands. Not off an outfield player.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        *disclaimer: I haven't actually seen it, just going by your description.

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      That one should have been given in my opinion too.

      And with the risk of sounding like the most terribly broken record of all time, the one Suarez got for the Amorebieta own goal against Fulham was complete nonsense too. 100% a Gerrard assist.

      On the upside it seems I have been on the right side of all these calls, and still I'm doing crap 😳

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        Can your team break the Gargatron? Mine can 🙂

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    3. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 days ago

        GIMPLORD

        i did laugh tho!

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  30. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 days ago

    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2013/matches/695041/player-stats/66749/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

    Fourfourtwo doesn't give an assist
    Or a touch
    or a chance created

    for Lukaku...

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    1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 days ago

      Haha 🙂

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