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Fallen stars in both the Premier League and Fantasy football proved a key topic of debate this week as the community mulled over another update to our manager’s Hall of Fame, the status of Sergio Aguero’s precarious hamstring and the painful demise of Fernando Torres. As the season enters its final Gameweeks, the community also cast an eye back to past glories and mistakes from this term, as well as dreaming of an improved season in 2014/15.

We revisit all these key discussions and also find time to catch up with our community tournaments, to find one particular community member beaming with pride after winning a special and much-coveted beverage-based accolade.

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Manuel Pellegrini’s press conference this week offered a glimmer of hope that City’s injury prone striker Sergio Aguero will be fit to start both fixtures in double Gameweek 34. But our discussion on his fitness showed widespread concern about the Argentine’s pitch time, from, among others, Champ and Keith. Alberto Tomba is also a worried man; in his thread, entitled Forget Aguero, he argues the community might be better served looking elsewhere to complete their three-pronged attack. The Argentine was a major ingredient of the week’s chatter, with A Defender’s Nightmare, on hand to offer a definitive guide to the subject matter, answering the key questions around Aguero’s game time and effect on his team-mates’ positions and point scoring potential.

With a possible return on the cards, Aguero was among a host of players to feature in our Best Double Gameweek 34 team discussion. Dip in to get some views on the key players to target and the assumed sweet spot when it comes to the Gameweek 34 roster.

With so many injuries in recent seasons, is there a possibility that Aguero’s star will wane permanently? One prolific Premier League striker has already suffered that particular fate: Fernando Torres was dropped in favour of a false nine by Jose Mourinho for the Champions League clash with Paris St Germain this week. Boc610 was among those lamenting the decline of this once-great goal scoring talent.

Fallen stars of the Fantasy Football variety emerged from the discussion surrounding the latest update in our Hall of Fame. Mark, Granville and Evs were among the Fantasy managers taking a tumble in this latest refresh. Their tough season prompted Christina to look at some other declining figures, with former Hall of Fame leader Ulrik Nuylund and Jafalad among those featured in his analysis.

The consistent returns from the early season bandwagons has often been cited as one of the key ingredients of this season and perhaps a factor in some established Fantasy managers’ struggling seasons. Aaron Ramsey and Yaya Toure have been major bandwagons who sustained form when fit, with Asqushypotato asking which other high scoring players the community missed and lived to regret. Among those to respond was Applebonkers, who has swerved Adam Lallana’s points and Loco Abreu who has sidestepped Seamus Coleman’s goal scoring hauls.

It’s not just Fantasy managers who mistime their transfer dealings. Demel’s’s hot topic this week focused on the worst buys in the Premier League this season, with Fulham’s Kostas Mitroglou and Tottenham’s Erik Lamela among the travesties dug up for all to see.

Demi, in contrast, was in a more positive mood and sparked this discussion about the very best buys from the campaign. Top of his list was Manchester City’s midfielder Fernandinho, who has brought out the best in his teammates, seemingly playing a major role in Yaya Toure’s extraordinary transformation into a true heavy-hitting Fantasy asset.

John Terry’s Dog was also keen to recall some success stories, quizzing the community on their best Fantasy Premier League moments. Athletico Timbo’s acquisition of Shola Ameobi just before he scored an extremely rare hat-trick just had to be amongst the pick of the tales on show.

Whilst we fondly reminisced , the community also looked ahead to 2014/15 to assess how the summer transfer activity could improve the array of choices on our player lists. A decent Chelsea striker was top of many of our wishlists – a factor that would surely offer another big alternative up top, whilst potentially shaking up the output of the Blues’ midfield assets.

Finally, in case you missed it, Mark popped in on Thursday to give us an update on plans for the ScoutCast. Check out the midweek Hot Topic for some clues on the new “live and interactive” direction – we’ll have more on this later this week.

The Community Tournaments

In the Worst to First- 2 Million+ Club, for teams with an overall rank below 2,000,000 in the first five Gameweeks, first placed Teltzham Hotspurs now sits alone in the top 10,000, after second ranked Bales of Fury slipped to 10,470th after Gameweek 32.

The winner of Gameweek 32’s Scout Pick Challenge, which is loosely based on our own Scout Picks, created by @ocprodigy, was Djberil with an impressive 74 points.

In Torres Magic’ss leagues this week, 14 were eliminated from his Last Man Standing ladder, leaving 25 to fight another day. His Millionaire Club ended this week when the final five managers all failing to qualify. Mayanyi comfortably leads his mid-season leagues. Triggerlips vs Urinal is the battle of the regulars in his knockout tournaments, where 32 remain.

The Fantasy Football Scout contributors and moderators league saw Spencer cling on to first place after Gameweek 32, albeit with a far slender lead of just four points.

Gameweek 32 saw the conclusion of FFS UEFA’s Champions League Round of 16. The victorious octet were Dogba, Billy Ketsu, TW, Shipstontrev, Beric, Ajay, ENR and Isacki. In FFS UEFA’s Europa League the second leg of ties in the Round of 16 take place during Gameweek 33. Full details here.

Finally, we are delighted to congratulate Declan on winning the Long and Winding Road’s coveted Tea Cup tournament. He beat Chrissy Waddle in the final and wins a range of tea-making goodies.

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  1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Mannone (EVE, mci) or Boruc (CAR)?

    Mannone for the save points, right? Because even the hopeless Cardiff might put one past Soton...?

    (I know Boruc is half-injured.)

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    1. Mind över Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I still think Mannone, but hasn't really considered Boruc

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    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      May as well play Mannone

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    3. copps
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      mannone for sure. he should get 4 points at least from those 2 games

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      1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        4 in the bag vs City = 0

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        1. copps
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          how 0 vs city? id say 1 at worst, save points

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          1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            I know. True.

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    4. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I guess Mannone is the choice. Thanks for the input.

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  2. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    A) Terry and Boruc -> Baines and 3.9 (-4)
    B) Azpilicueta -> Distin

    Hart*
    Coleman* / Ward* / Terry
    Puncheon* / Johnson* / Silva* / Yaya* / Hazard
    Lukaku* / Suarez

    Boruc; Sturridge / Azpilicueta / Olsson

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  3. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    DGW:

    Man City - I already have 3 players
    Everton - I have Coleman & Lukaku, midfielders is a rotation minefield, so if I get a 3rd toffee, Baines
    Sunderland - yeah right, they are pure shite, Id rather have a single GW player
    Palace - I already have their keeper & 1 defender, I think that's enough

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    1. Mind över Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Puncheon is interesting IMO

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      1. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        To play him, I would have to bench Gerrard, Suarez, Studge or Hazard tho

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Keeping Sturridge? Would probably keep him if I already had Lukaku but fancy him this week...

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yup, only 2 City for me

      Baines, Coleman, Lukaku

      Mannone

      Ward

      7 will do thanks

      I have Hazard, Dejagah at home to Norwich

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    3. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I really fancy getting Nasri over Silva like you did too... Both in great form but think Nasri is more likely to score goals atm...

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  4. FACUPARSE
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Everyone's OR updated? Got 25pts today and dropped 4k 🙁

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yup

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Your view on the game today? Am abroad with no access to watch it...

        Wenger has a lot to answer for

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        1. Declan
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          No leaders, same auld shyte, I think the FA Cup will be Wengers parting gift.

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        2. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          In all honesty, I thought Arsenal deserved to lose but the officiating was a travesty.

          On a different day it could have been 3-2, Arsenal were very unlucky not to score.

          That said, the midfield has no structure at all, it's literally just a run around and kick it about mentality. I expected much better than was given. Injuries are a factor of course but it simply was not flowing in any way, shape or form.

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        3. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Arteta, Giroud and Monreal were dreadful.

          Vermealen made Mertz look like an amateur.

          Sagna was our best player by a million miles.

          Ramsey looked good when he came on.

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            All of this is true. Sagna and Vermaelen by far stood out to me. Verm deserves his starting role.

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            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              I didn't mean the Vermealen comment in a positive way. He is so gun-ho and over the place that he makes a good defender like Mertz look like crap. He could play in a high line that needs brazilian-style defenders, but in a half-court press against possession he is a nightmare.

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              1. Somalion
                • 16 Years
                11 years, 11 months ago

                Oh you reckon? I thought he was better than Merte to be honest but I may well be wrong. I usually compare him to Kosc to see who is more worthy of starting.

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    2. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah it's updated

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  5. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    ok aguero fanciers. who's your fall guy?

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sturridge

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    2. Marknlard
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Got to be Sturridge.

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      lookin like studge........feels bad man, could be a watershed moment

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    4. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sturridge

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    5. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Gotta be Sturridge, right? Can't sell Lukaku with the tasty double/form, so it's one of the Liverpool lads and Suarez is flirting with averaging 10 points per game. Plus, Norwich is coming...

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    6. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      thanks all but sturridge has games vs palace, norwich and newcastle included in his run in. maybe only newcastle are not really fighting for anything.

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    7. Declan
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Bony

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    8. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Suarez

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      1. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        as a risky option, this could prove genius. unlikely to work out of course, but given the bitey one's ownership, if he were to have a lull, the non-owner would be laughing

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        1. Leaf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          I'm not sure I can gamble this far.

          But Aguero , Dzeko , lukaku (moving to Rooney in week or so)

          Gives me much better , and more fixtures

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          1. the axolotl
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            absolute gamble but in a league of suarez owners, this could prove good

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    9. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Jelavic. Ooo tough choice. 🙂

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      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Similar players 🙂

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  6. Marknlard
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Been a while but back again...tactical review of Cardiff v Crystal Palace.

    Digested read for those want a quick hit - Cardiff were rubbish.

    http://cardiffkickaball.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/cardiff-0-3-crystal-palace-postmatch/

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  7. Tinmen
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Sturridge and Eriksen to Aguero and Puncheon seem alright?

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    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Pretty good moves I think but wait until after the Spurs game

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  8. PogChamp
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    67 points with 1 point to come for Bardsley and his YC tomorrow. Going to break the 2000 points barrier for the first time in 3 seasons. Yay!

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    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Well played & good to break the barrier 🙂

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  9. waltzingmatildas
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Which looks better:
    A)McGregor and sturridge to guzan and dzeko (-4)
    B)McGregor, hazard and sturridge to guzan, Ramsey and aguero (-8)

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  10. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Right players benched for next gw?

    MANNONE
    BAINES COLEMAN WARD Fonte
    YAYA SILVA Lallana
    LUKAKU Suarez Sturridge

    Boruc Sterling Cahill Mutch

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    1. einienufc
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yes. sterling played well today, but his gametime is not secure. looks good.

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  11. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Rosenior and ward has trolled be big time 🙁

    gw 31 - benched rosenior (15 points)
    gw 32 - benched ward (12 points)
    gw 33 - benched rosenior and ward again (12 and 5 points)

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  12. MarkFLR
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Assuming Aguero is back to play most of the DGW games, is it worth me getting Yaya in?

    Or will Silva benefit more from Aguero's return?

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yaya will lose pens, and therefore 90% of his points.

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Only Aguero is sure to benefit from Aguero returning.

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      1. MarkFLR
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I was more referring to Toure losing out on pens, but I'd be getting in Aguero as well anyway.

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  13. No Pirlo No Party
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on the following;

    Olsson + Noone ----> Zabaleta + Puncheon (-4)

    Any other thoughts on Noone replacement? 5.1 to spend (Have Mutch)

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  14. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Looking forward to Studge scoring a couple next week

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    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      could easily, the scamp

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  15. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I might just double up on Dzeko and Aguero. Thoughts?

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      So no Suarez or Lukaku. Mmm not sure

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      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I don't have Suarez. My current strike force is Dzeko, Sturridge, Lukaku. Thinking of doing Sturridge ---> Aguero

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Luka Dzeko and Aguero? looks decent. I was considering cutting Sturridge for Lamber and leaving the city strikers....

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  16. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Fulham: "Haha, Nowich. We just beat Villa and now we're sky high with confidence. You're coming to our place on Saturday and we're going to beat you and stay up."

    Norwich: "Sh*t. We're going down"

    Fulham: "Yes, yes you are. And we're staying up!"

    Norwich: "Oh, by the way, Fulham, we thought about this all last night and this afternoon and, well, we've just sacked Chris Hughton. New manager bounce and all that..."

    Fulham: "Oh f***!"

    Norwich: "Indeed. So, we'll see you Saturday, then"

    Fulham: "Bugger!"

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  17. Ings on the up
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Some advice please

    Plan A
    Hazard --> Nasrj (can't afford Silva - £0.5 short)
    Sturridge --> Aguero

    -4

    Plan B
    Sturridge --> Dzeko
    Sterling --> Nasri (£8.9m available)
    Keep Hazard

    82 points behind my mini-league leader. He has Silva, Dzeko & Hazard. Both have Yaya

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  18. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Narrowed down my transfer targets to just two.. so..

    Mannone (Harper)
    Baines Coleman Dann (Azpilicueta Chester)
    Silva Yaya Puncheon Hazard (Mutch)
    Lukaku Suarez Sturridge
    3.5 in the bank
    1 FT

    A) Mutch to Nasri
    B) Sturridge to Aguero

    Cheers

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sturridge would prob be benched in option A). if he scores on my bench it wont hurt as it would make me happy for keeping him 🙂

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sigh.. .nearing end of the page. i feel a repost comin up 🙂

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    3. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      B

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  19. The B
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Did Carrol get assist for Demel's goal? 😯

    😉

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  20. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    sri lanka win the world cup! over the moon...and a great way to get over arsenal's woe and my fantasy troubles!

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  21. Balotellitubbies
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Didn't even realise OR had updated. Stayed the same rank after the update and was sat there refreshing. 😆

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      That's the beauty of being ranked 13th!

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      1. Balotellitubbies
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        😉

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    2. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      an illusive grey arrow?

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      1. Balotellitubbies
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Nah the green just stayed the same.

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    3. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Exact same with me

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  22. Cooper123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Do you think it's worth doing Zabaleta and Sturridge to Ward and Aguero?

    Means one more doubler, and covers the Kun risk. Worth losing Sturridge for it though?

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  23. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Best defender for 4.6 or less from now til the end of the season?

    (Apart from Olsson, Ward & Chester)

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Flanagan 4.4

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  24. CMIFLFC42
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Mannone (Price)
    Coleman-Ivanovic-Azpi (Chambers, Chester)
    Hazard-Yaya-Nasri-Lallana (Delph)
    Suarez-Lukaku-Sturridge

    0.3itb

    hmmm any ideas on what to do?

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Ivan > City defender

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  25. mgilbert86
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    So is most everyone going to get Aguero? Have learned from the past it is important to get him before everyone bandwagons him in.

    Dzeko to Aguero for -4 insanity?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      this season gettin him in later was a good lesson too

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    2. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      If you have Dzeko may as well play him. Not sure about -4 for Aguero

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  26. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I know things will change tomorrow, but for tonight I'm enjoying being in the top 1k. 😎

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    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I don't think many in the top 1k have Tottenham players and/or playing Sunderland players! I think you're good for this weekend!

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    2. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Congrats!

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    3. Saint Domingo
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Well done mate,superb stuff...

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  27. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Any Arsenal fans, is Vermaelen likely to stay or leave this Summer?

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      leave

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers!

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    2. mgilbert86
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Sagna and Vermaelen off in my opinion.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting indeedy, cheers!

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  28. The EJJ
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Are people benching their Chelsea defenders this week?

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    1. The B
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      No

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Cahill first sub

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    3. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      If I Get Aguero I must Get another cheap mid, means I'll play 4-3-3 and play Azpi. Do I drop Kun for this GW I'll bench Azpi

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  29. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Best mids for DGW? Hazard and Snodgrass out, budget 18.8. (Do NOT want third City because doing Coleman > Demichelis next week.)

    MANNONE
    WARD, COLEMAN, Shaw
    YAYA, Gerrard, Haz, Snoddy
    LUKAKU, DZEKO, Suarez

    Subs: Boruc, Nolan, Vlaar, Flanagan

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Is Shaw > Demichelis worth -4? I fancy Soton to shut out Cardiff.

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  30. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    a) Evra and Baker ---> Stones and Kolorov (-4)

    b) Evra ---> Distin

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      A

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